The Big Lead takes a big shot at Indianapolis
The Big Lead, when discussing possible US venues for the World Cup in 2018, has some rather crass words for the capital of the state of Indiana:
Indianapolis is the most boring, nondescript and generally awful large city in the United States. No one is excited to go there. No one has a compelling reason to go there if not for a budget-conscious convention. It is like Applebees, but less zany.
The city has no organic existence. Indiana’s founders decided to create a city near no body of water and in the geometric center of the state. Facing limitless possibilities, they named it "Indiana City." What is the difference between Indianapolis and a tub of yogurt? The tub of yogurt would produce a culture after 200 years.
After the jump, you can read my response to The Big Lead regarding their opinion of Indianapolis.
Dear The Big Lead,
Go f*#k yourselves you uppity, entitled pricks.
Sincerely,
Tub of Yogurt
Oh, and consider this an open thread to bash The Big Lead and the big asshats who run that site. Remember this gem from them last year? I guess I shouldn't expect anything intelligent written by a friggin Jets fan.
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"Yea, verily, we shall overcome thy pathetic attempts at defense, thou jelly-livered knave! Talk not of thy smack to me, for I shall wedge mine booted foot nine furlongs up thy ass, bitch! Canst thou dig it??"
Peyton looks like an infant smoking a cigar
At first glance I thought this was a set photo from the new e-trade ad featuring the talking babies.
by mad science on Jan 22, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
how stupid do you think they feel now?
After reading the post from 2008… It’s just really funny how dumb people can be.
~SHaFF!~
can't say they're wrong
I’ve lived in Indianapolis, Nashville, and Atlanta. And the one thing that really strikes me is how there is no real culture in Indianapolis and how there are very few people who actually live downtown. I lived a block away from the circle (In The Block) two years ago, and during week day nights, the city was a ghost town with the occasional horse carriage passing by. I love Indiana, and I love the midwest, but i think the city is really hurt by the fact that there is no highway that runs through the city. If you live in Noblesville, you have to truck it down Meridian for like an hour through stop light after stoplight. Still, it is safter than Johannesburg. Go Horse.
well true but indiana > than that pile of shit we all call michigan
if they are looking to places to hold the world cup….columbus ohio w. a 105,000 + stadium capacity
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Columbus is out of it
The Horseshoe can’t hold a World Cup size pitch.
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
yeah...ur right...i doubt they would add more field turf to expand it....
the US is the only nation in the world that can hold a world cup w.o building more hotels and stadiums.
are we sharing the world cup w. mexico or canada?
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No
Countries that can host a WC by themselves can’t share. The US has tons of stadiums. Sharing would be pointless.
England, Japan, and Australia could all host World Cups easily as well.
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
by Colts Homer on Jan 15, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
i 70 does n i 64 (i think)
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So if I don’t respond to anyone on this I’m not being a douche. Just can’t.
They are mostly right. God knows I love my capital but I’d you aren’t a big racing fan Indy offers little to the outsider. I was just discussing this yesterday with an irish f1 racing fan. Indy reflects the state it’s in. Not much to offer outsiders but everything us locals could ever want. That’s what is great about life here it’s simple.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by JustAJ on Jan 15, 2010 4:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good description
I’m not a racing fan, actually, so technically it has even less to offer me. As big cities go, it’s boring. But what I do like:
- It doesn’t feel like a big city. It isn’t, really. You can walk across and all the way around downtown in two hours.
- The areas I’m familiar with (downtown, north side) are clean, comfortable, and easy to get around
- there are enough places to eat and things to do that you won’t get bored. No, it doesn’t have “attractions” that’ll entertain tourists, but that’s not the kind of stuff you do as a resident anyway.
- cost of living is low
- convenient to fly and drive in and out
I’m a pretty boring person. I live in Chicago and I hate it. I want to have land and grass and space instead of three hundred neighbors within the same acre. So Indy suits me. But I can see how it doesn’t stack up as a place to visit, especially when compared to other large cities. That’s fine. I don’t quite see why it’s worth insulting, though. No, it’s not NY or Boston, but it’s also not Cleveland or Detroit.
Agreed
Indy doesn’t compare to Atlanta, New York, LA, Chicago, or any one of the principle big cities. BUT, Indianapolis isn’t that type of town and I hope they don’t try to become it. Indy isn’t much of a tourist area which is why it’s great to live there. Would it be great for a World Cup? I don’t know, Indy may not have enough glitz for the tourists but it does have a way of taking on the character of the festivities.
I’m a little biased, though. When I left IU to go to law school I looked at Indy, Denver, and Portland. See a pattern?
by ActionOxford on Jan 15, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
You think a trip form Noblesville to Indianapolis involves…Meridian Street? I think the best way is to take a highway called S.R. 37 to a highway called I-69 to a highway called I-465 to a highway called I-70, which, along with I 65, actually does run straight through the city. Whatever Indianapolis offers, you are probably too directionally impaired to find it.
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by John M (The Crimson Quarry) on Jan 15, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Its a smaller city than Chicago
So you can’t expect it to have as much history or culture, but it has all the things FIFA would look for in a host city. Downtown Indy is very clean and well organized. Everything is within walking distance…..restaurants, hotels, the canal, sports venues, etc.. Lucas Oil stadium is a world class facility. This is why Indy is hosting the 2010 Final Four and 2012 Super Bowl. Its also why the Big Ten Basketball Tournament prefers Indy to Chicago and will be in Conseco Fieldhouse for the forseeable future.
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I don't think you know where Noblesville is
Truck it down Meridian for an hour?! Are you fucking kidding me?!
Try taking I-69 to I-465 to I-70, its quick and easy. And I’m not sure what commuting from Noblesville to downtown has to do with how good of a host city Indy is. All major cities have an interstate loop around them.
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Kind of agree
I have lived here for over 20 years and it isn’t the most exciting place on earth. BUT I will say that, aside from New York, LA, San Fran and Chicago there aren’t a ton of cities with endless possibilities for a night or day on the town. Indy is just like most other cities in the US I think.
Of course there are no major bodies of water, but really who lives on the water or goes to a lake every damn day? I don’t see the big problem there.
In summary, if the PEOPLE of Indiana and Indianapolis would step outside the box more, and stop being so conservative about everything, the city would be a lot different. Otherwise, we just have to love it for what it is.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
I dunno
never been to Indianapolis, it’s gotta be better than El Paso. Hell you guys have the Colts and that big race. We have UTEP and Juarez. I always pictured Indianapolis to be along the lines of San Antonio which I always thought was a cool town. It looks cool from the blimp on TV too. I like the fact that you never hear any bitching from Indiana, I’d like to check it out someday.
Hmm
San Antonio is an interesting comparison. I haven’t spent too much time there but aside from being remote, it’s quite nice. I think it might win on the strength of the riverwalk alone though.
I've lived in both
San Antonio has a greater history (re: Missions, The Alamo, etc) and Indianapolis has less history. :)
However, to say that Indianapolis has nothing to offer is very wrong. Indianapolis has a world class symphony orchestra, many cultural venues (Theaters, sports, etc; considering the size of the city) and a variety of restaurants that many larger cities only dream of. If I were to choose which city I would want to live in out of the two, I’d be hard pressed to decide. However, to say that Indianapolis is boring… that is an uneducated opinion.
Whoa!
Another Colts fan in El Paso? We need to meet each other…I don’t think I’ve seen another one and I’ve lived here for two years. All I see are ignorant Cowboys fans…
I’ll be at Hiney’s for the game tomorrow lol.
by AbroadColtsFan on Jan 15, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
Nope never met another Colts fan here. Totally man, that would be cool. Hiney’s is kinda far though and I’d have to find a baby sitter. I’ll see what I can do.
by Joey Hopalong on Jan 15, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
What kind of yogurt?
I might be inclined to agree if it’s the fruit at the bottom kind. Anyway, I’ve enjoyed my trips to Indy but that may be because every time I’ve been there has been for a Colts game. First time I went to Indy I was wearing a San Antonio Spurs hat around Circle Center Mall and these guys started giving me crap for not being a Pacers fan, but I talked to them for a few minutes and straightened them out with the whole I’m from Texas thing. They couldn’t get over that I’m not a Cowboys fan or don’t have a redneck/hick accent. Good times. Good people. Can’t wait till my next trip.
spurs fans
oh no… ill try to forgive you for cheering for the dirty cheating bruce bowen… go colts
go mavs, go colts, go rangers, go baylor
....I agree with them
I love the Colts, don’t get me wrong. And the few times i’ve made the trip down to Indianapolis to catch the games I have met many wonderful people. but the city itself is about as bland and uninteresting as can be. That’s not to say its a bad city, but its definitely on the more boring side of cities that should or could entertain the World Cup.
That bieng said, im gonna try to come down there to watch the AFC Chamoionship.
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See, this perception is based on only going downtown.
Try Broad Ripple, it’s more like being in towns like Bloomington. It has alot more of a college feel.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I could care less . . .
. . . what those dipshits have to say, because Indianapolis has Lucas Oil Stadium, and tomorrow at Lucas Oil Stadium, Peyton Manning takes the field against the Baltimore Ravens, and I will be there. Go Horse!
p.s. Uhhh, nice dis saying "facing limitless possibilities, they named it ‘Indiana City’ " Isn’t that blog out of . . . New York City? Dipshit.
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Just citing an example that I've seen many times
At my english course, there’s a exchange program with many destinations, including states like Indiana and Texas. Even Ohio and Utah are on that program, and they’re most visited than your beloved Indiana. Why? Because in Indiana, there’s only two things to visit: the Lucas Oil Stadium and the racing track. If you’re not a huge fan of Nascar, Indy or whatever like most of us brazilians (including me), you’re not going to visit the track. And if you’re not a football fan, like most of us (not including me), you’re not going to place your foot at LOS. Some friends of mine are considering to visit Indiana, but just to watch a single game and then get on the road to NY or Florida. I would, and probably will do the same thing when I travel to USA…
My point is: probably, if the country is selected to host the 2018 world cup (2014 is here, uhull!), the games will be played in famous states, like Florida, California, New York and etc. That’s why Miami has been the host of the Super Bowl for such a long time: Miami automatically attract tourists from the whole world and the whole country and guarantee to the NFL a high attendance at the SB and even outside of the stadium. Indianapolis? I don’t think so…
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
miami
miami has hosted the most super bowls because of the weather, not because of it’s crumbling stadium. the NFL actually told the owners of that little stadium down there that if they didn’t make something like $40 million in upgrades, they would never host another super bowl after this one.
Not only the weather
But the city itself. People dream about visiting Miami, not Chicago or Indianapolis. The Land Shark might be a small stadium, and people in Miami don’t like to attend at any sports. They rather be at a night club than watching a Miami Heat game. Still, Miami will attract hundreds of thousands of tourists every year with or without Super Bowl… Indiana will see a little grow at their population due to babies and rare tourists who traveled to the USA to watch the snow coming down, if they’re not going to Boston or Chicago.
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
truth is
that Brazilians dream of visiting Miami. The order of preference is: Miami, New York, Washington D.C. I have a basis for saying this because of all the time I lived in Brazil… I was astonished that nobody showed interest in Chicago or San Francisco.
How can you not love a team that does this?
Only thrash metal fans have any interest in visiting San Francisco
And I’m the only one at my school who’s sent an application to Chicago’s University, while most of the others are dreaming with Harvard, Oxford and those highly expensive colleges.
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
"only thrash metal fans have any interest in visiting San Francisco"
too bad – everyone else is really missing out, IMHO
How can you not love a team that does this?
That's not a bad university at all
Not the greatest part of the city, mind you, but still not a bad school. Northwestern is also a good school to look at in the area.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
One of my uncles indicated Chicago to me
And it was the college of his dreams. He’s been there for some visits and donation stuff, but he decided to do his Business graduations at Harvard. Still, it’s one of the best Economy colleges in the world, and I don’t want to spend my time at Massachusetts
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
Chicago is a great choice
good luck on your application!
How can you not love a team that does this?
Say what??
Because in Indiana, there’s only two things to visit: the Lucas Oil Stadium and the racing track.
This is demonstrably wrong.
- Broad Ripple
- Eagle Creek Park
- Indianapolis City Market
- Indiana Reperatory Theater
- Conner Prarie
- Indianapolis Zoo
- Indiana State Museum
- Indianapolis Museum of Art
- Indianapolis Art Center (yes, it’s a separate facility)
- Indianapolis Children’s Museum
- Victory Field during an Indians game
- Conseco fieldhouse during a Pacers game
… and that’s not even trying. On top of that, that’s only in Indianapolis; if you want to extend that to the entirety of the state like you did in your post, then down in Monroe & Brown counties I can name one university, one reservoir/recreation area, and two state forests.
You don’t know Indiana.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Hey he is just going by what he has been told
he has never been to the USA even
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 15, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I know
Look, I’m not about to say that this state is any sort of cultural mecca. And yes, compared to Chicago, Indianapolis comes in second when talking about nightlife, tourist attractions, etc.
Thing is, it is categorically false that there’s nothing to do in this state. Relative to big cities it’s lacking, but this place isn’t devoid of attractions.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Yeah I don't know Indiana
Neither do anyone outside the USA midwest. Only a few hoosiers who are probably all over the USA knows those places you’ve listed. And thanks a lot for the information; when I pass by Indianapolis, I won’t be visiting only the LOS at all
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
minor correction
The track in Indy is most known for open-tire racing. tr00ly – I have two Brazilian words for you: Emerson Fittipaldi!!!
How can you not love a team that does this?
Well I didn't have the opportunity to watch any races of Emerson Fittipaldi
I was 2 years old when Ayrton Senna died on that tragic car accident in Italy.
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
So
basically your problem with Indy is that you are just too young to have learned much about ANY other city in the US except NY or Miami.
Understandable but it’s hard to judge if you know very little about what you are judging.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
and Gil de Ferran... and Helio Castroneves... Tony Kanaan... Vitor Meira...
Castroneves and de Ferran won the 500, Helio doing so multiple times. Kanaan and Meira are usually contenders and pretty well respected. And they’re all Brazillian.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I've heard about them too
But Indy nor Nascar have a good coverage here in my country. And I don’t really like those racing categories… I prefer the Formula 1 and the Brazilian Stock Car
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
Well, we used to have an F-1 race, but idiots ruined that one.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bernie wanted too much money...
… and looked down on Indy as a bumpkin town. There’s a rumor that he actually stayed in a hotel in Chicago and flew down to Indy by helicopter because he was dissatisfied with accomodations in town; regardless, he was always dissing Indy and looking for a move to a bigger city like New York or Las Vegas. When he wanted more money after the 2005 tire fiasco, I’m surprised Tony George and the others actually made an effort; I would’ve been tempted to tell him to go pound sand. Anyway, I actually blame the loss on a single idiot.
Makes you wonder if that’s the reason Magny-Cours in France was dropped too. It happened not long after Ecclestone talked about a street race in Paris; maybe Magny-Cours was too “hick” for His Nibs as well.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Formula 1 is full of shitty people
But I still love this race… Even after my father’s death, we save some money to watch the race in São Paulo. And money was the reason why they took the F1 out of Rio. The SP government offered more money than ours, and we lost the money that came with the tourists, and the entertainment of the race
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
I miss the F-1 race alot. F-1 fans are some of the most passionate fans I have ever had the pleasure to hang out with.
Of all the major sporting events that have been held in the Indy area, I always had the most fun with F-1 fans. They always came to party and hang out with the locals, far more than most of the conventionists, or NCAA fans.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I just dig open wheel racing in general.
And I’m even to the point where I wish there was a US Grand Prix somewhere, even if it weren’t in Indianapolis. You gotta admit, most of the F1 drivers didn’t think the road course at IMS was all that challenging. If only Las Vegas would do a street race… but there’s no way in hell they’ll ever think of shutting down roads there for such an event because there’s no way they’ll ever want to make it difficult for their customers to get to the casinos. Ditto New York City, but minus any influence from casinos since there aren’t any.
(* Sigh *)…
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
It would look fantastic if they did.
For the F-1 drivers, yea turning left a whole bunch has got to get boring. I wish the US had a race too.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well, at least the Sao Paulo F1 event is all right
Plus, it’s Massa’s home race. Heck, it’s his home; no wonder he feels pretty good there.
On top of that, I dig the fact that it’s an F1 course that runs counterclockwise. Makes things feel almost normal for this here Indycar fan. :)
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Yea it's mostly Bernie, but I wanted to be nice and try to leave room for other people.
You are very much right, however.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Max wasn't the epitome of a non-asshole either.
So you have an argument, I’ll admit.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Idk if the World Cup
would come to NY. It was in NJ in 1994 and I went there but I don’t think any stadium/venue in NY could hold the World Cup.
It's going to be at the New Meadowlands
My guess is that it hosts the Final.
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
Indy...
Is a little bit boring in terms of night life at times. I have lived and both Indy and St. Louis which are roughly the same population. The difference is that StL thinks it is a big city while Indy thinks it is a small town. I think the criticism of Indy lackinging a cultural identity is valid. As a tourist venue, Indy is not a destination city…
However, (and this is key) Indy is a fantastic sports venue. The city is well versed in conducting large sporting events between several final 4s, NFL combine and the Indy 500. With Lucas Oil we also have a world class facility in which to host a game. As far as mid-sized cities are concerned, the downtown area is as safe as any you will come accross. Everything is within walking distance which is great for out of towners just visiting for the game. All of these same selling points are what brought us the Super Bowl and would hold true for a World Cup game as well.
The best thing about The Big Lead
Are the commenters. They are more insightful than the writers. The writers are awful, especially Big Brain On Brett.
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Indianapolis hasn’t had the time to develop a culture like Chicago or philly. Hell, 30 years ago you really couldn’t go down town after 7 because it was too dangerous. Now we have two major sports teams, a AAA baseball team, and lots of great places downtown to eat and blow cash. I love living here, so those guys can suck balls!
"You're what they call a practice girl"
Columbus???
I love Indy but let’s be honest, it’s not the most exciting place to live. That said, check out the post’s third paragraph:
The list is a middle finger toward the Midwest. Columbus has a passionate soccer fan base. It’s a site for crucial USMNT qualifiers. A match in the horseshoe would have been spectacular. Detroit is downtrodden and unattractive, but it has at least another eight years for artists to gentrify it.
Columbus? Like, the one in Ohio? Seriously? You think Indy is boring and you would rather go to… Columbus? Wow, great choice. I guess Columbus does have a soccer team and… a soccer stadium, and… yeah.
No, wait! I’ve got an even better idea! How about Detroit? Sure, literally half of the city is deserted right now, but we can just bulldoze that half and build the biggest soccer stadium ever! And then- hey wait! Come back!
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
columbus in in the top 100 cities to live @
and it is home to the columbus crew. and 2nd most fast growing city in the mid-west
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Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum!
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No stadium
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
by Colts Homer on Jan 15, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
crew stadium...but its small...u know the wc cup final is going to be in dallas w. that monster tv
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Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum!
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The World Cup stadium has to seat over 50K
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
I've spent some time there. Nice town, but I'm not a fan of the road structure. THere are alot of poorly marked exits.
Also, Indy has a brand new airport with modernized security and a road system that can effect transport quickly. It’s a town that was redesigned to handle large, short-term events.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure Indianapolis is better than where i live:
Southern Oregon, only notable for producing Chad Cota.
tampa bay
i love how people think that Tampa Bay is a city. the body of water adjacent to the city of Tampa is named Tampa Bay. so that moron thinks they’re gonna have the world cup games in a giant body of water. water polo is somewhat entertaining to watch, too.
and there’s a major water tributary that runs through downtown.
Water Polo in the Bay?
That would actually pretty awesome.
by ActionOxford on Jan 15, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Tampa
is much more boring than Indy IMO, except there is the Gulf/Bay so you can get a tan 9-10 months out of the year. Otherwise, lame.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
I love Tampa
But I also love Indy so what do I know!
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
I spent 3 months in Tampa
for Consulting 101 with PW… had a pretty good time but for some odd reason never got my bearings. I still feel like Dale Mabry “ought” to go East-West, not North-South, lol!!
How can you not love a team that does this?
I love Indy
OK so it doesn’t have the recognition of places like NYC, Boston, or Chicago, but it’s still home. It’s still the place I choose to live. Boring or not, crazy weather and all, it’s my city.
by TouchdownMonkey on Jan 15, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions
What I take issue with is this...
Indianapolis is the most boring, nondescript and generally awful large city in the United States.
I wouldn’t describe Indy as a particularly large city, not that boring, nor nondescript. I’ve spent a lot of time in Cincinnati and Louisville and would rank both of them lower in overall terms of living and things to do. Also, there’s plenty of stuff to do and keep you busy in Indy. It’s a city of ~1.5 million, so yeah it’s not gonna be like Chicago.
What’s so much better than Jacksonville that a definitive statement like that? J’ville is one of the worst laid out cities, next to Houston. Cincinnati, incidentally is in my opinion one of the worst laid out cities and has zero nightlife in Ohio (gotta go to KY for that, and I’ll take Broad Ripple over Northern KY).
Indiana’s founders decided to create a city near no body of water and in the geometric center of the state.
Not only is there a river (hey, that’s a body of water!) that runs right through the fucking middle of the city, the logical placement for a capital is the center of the state.
Is it the best place ever? Of course not. Is it the worst city in America? Absolutely not. The NW corner of Indiana is far worse. Being snarky is one thing, being an idiot on top of it is quite another.
by The Walking Eye on Jan 15, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
well i rather live in Indy (been there ) than live in cincy (been here)
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Why is "The Big Lead" relevant?
Never heard of em.
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Indy is getting better....
Indy used to have a more thriving downtown in the 50’s and 60’s, Everyone moved out into the suburbs because of white flight. I’m from there and so are four generations of my family. Also, after years and years of Republican Conservative domination in the city, (finally recently eclipsed in the last decade), the city was culturally neutered. Tell me of a thriving music scene or art scene in Indy? There is ZERO real clubs for bands or singers to play that aren’’t catering to that african american guitar dude and his white female co-singer. Name please? It’s true….sorry. Anytime a good idea gets going in the state legislature, some fucking hick from Corydon shoots it down……Daylight Savings Time argument anyone? That was just embarassing…Unfortunately, there are alot of individuals in Indiana that give the city and state that “just fell off the turnip truck” vibe that you see whenever any outsider talks about the city/state….You can begin hating me now. I love those hard working Hoosiers, and alot of them are in my family, but its the truth….BTW I’m one of those people I’m criticizing…I’m not better, I’m worse, but I have had the benefit of living elsewhere for a few years, and your perspective changes a bit.
But all that being said, there IS urban revitalization downtown. People are returning to the near north side and places like that as the city is re-gentrified. Thank you Bart Peterson and Co. Hopefully art will take place in Indiana, and talented individuals will return (and stay) in the city because of the possibility of lower real estate prices as oppossed to a more culturally diverse cities like Seattle, San Diego, Chicago or Dallas, wher ereal estate is off the chain. Yes Indiana is NOT culturally diverse. Hmm let’s take a visit to Indy’s Chinatown, or Vietnamese district, it’s Western European area, or its Cuban center….oh ya…they don’t fucking exist.
Naptown just needs to keep the good government and leadership it has had over the years going…and people will return. The city is getting better EVERY year’ . ,,,but it WAS pretty damn vapid for along, long time….Anyway I love Indy, and I have a GD right to criticise it, because I want it to be better. It’s getting there. Indy does rule, this douche has some critical points, but fuck you asshole, I got your yogurt right here…..
I was commenting on Stampede Blue long before May of 2008 you freaks....
So the reason downtown sucks (in your opinion) is because......
Indiana is conservative and racist. Oh, ok, whatever.
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by PurdueMatt on Jan 15, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not racist
but the entire state is definitely still very conservative which holds itself back at times.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
As a former Bloomington resident, I have to disagree with the word "all".
Bloomington isn’t even remotely conservative.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 15, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Sucks for him
Because the World Cup will be coming to Indy. The downtown is made to host huge events like the World Cup. The retractable roof is huge as well.
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
I love it,
and it’s like they designed Indy with large sports events and conventions in mind.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.
Where would they hold it?
I don’t think the field area in LOS is wide enough. If you go to the end of the end zones, it should be long enough, but I think width would be the issue.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Oh, well heck. I found my own answer
http://www.in.gov/iscba/files/Construction_April_07.pdf
The magazine noted that with a seating capacity of 70,000, the stadium will provide exceptional sightlines from virtually all angles. The magazine also featured the fact that the stadium can be configured for a Federation International Football Association-size soccer field, which is much wider than a football field. To view the article on-line, go to http://www.midwest.construction.com/features/archive/0703_cover.asp
I did not know that. Huh. That’s really cool.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
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"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
I'm a college student
and I still enjoyed the Indianapolis Childrens’ Museum. Also, as a former resident of Indiana and current resident of Missouri, I tend to get really excited whenever I visit Indiana, especially Indianapolis. It’s a pretty awesome city.
Apparently
The WC Committee thought that Indianapolis was better than the other Midwest cities because they are the only one left. No Cincy, no Chicago (although they pulled their bid apparently), no Cleveland, No Detroit, No St. Louis. The city wants this really badly. I think we will get it. 2022 here we come!
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
That statement that Indy is the most boring and awful city in the country is false:
Why? Because I lived in Milwaukee for awhile. Nothing can beat that (except for Cleveland and Detroit)…meh. It’s a three way tie between those 3 cities…and Columbus? As in Ohio?
Um….if you they so.
Darn - 'If they say so.'
Anyway, there aren’t that many cities in the country that has a history and lure except for a handful. Indy can host most events because it’s built that way.
Just Thought of Something
The World Cup isn’t held in one city, correct? I thought the country hosted it, with multiple locations for various matches. The last time the US hosted it (‘94?) I think I remember matches being held in LA, Chicago, and other cities. So it’s not like Indy would have to beat out every other city in the US. It could be picked as one of a handful of cities that will host matches.
by TouchdownMonkey on Jan 15, 2010 11:52 PM EST reply actions
64 or 65 matches
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12 cities will host it
Indy would probably have 4 or 5 games.
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
Who's getting the finals though?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is JD's best daydream. Cracks me up every time.
New Meadowlands, New LA Stadium/Rose Bowl, or Cowboys Stadium
Are the only places they would host the finals. I would bet on New Meadowlands.
"About a month ago I got a cactus. A week later, it died. I was really depressed because I was like 'Damn! I am less nurturing than a desert.' (Ladies, that's not true)"
At least Indy isn't as bad as St. Louis
I’m grew up in Indy, went to college in Milwaukee, lived for a number of years in Chicago, and then moved to St. Louis for a new job. Let me tell it straight: St. Louis is god-awful. To list all the reasons would overload the SBNation servers.
/waiting for the job market to improve a bit so I can get the f* outta here

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