Sorry Bill Polian, but you are not out of the woods yet
by Brad Wells on Jan 19, 2010 8:28 AM EST
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PrintAll of you are going to get a little testy with me on this, but I found this quote from Bill Polian's radio show last night and it kind of pissed me off (via John Oehser):
"We don't need any apologies," Polian said Monday on his weekly radio show that airs on Hank 97.1 FM in Indianapolis. "(Former Colts Head Coach) Tony Dungy had a great saying that he immortalized and memorialized in very large print in our locker room both at our practice facility and down at the stadium. It says, 'No explanations, no excuses.'
Bill, no offense, but winning one playoff game (a game your team was supposed to win) does not get you out of the weeds. You gave up and quit on a meaningful game back in December not because you simply wanted to beat the Ravens in the Divisional Round. You did it to win the Super Bowl, and anything short of that means the "quitting" strategy was a failure. By benching starters in the way it was done in a game fans, media, and players very much wanted to win, the excuse you gave afterward was that rest was more important for the long haul; the long haul obviously being the Super Bowl.
Also, if anyone is supposed to be apologizing, it's you. Drafting well and developing a great roster does not excuse you from acting like a total horse's ass to your fans. When you essentially call fans who criticize you liars, or when you twist words around and lash out at people for simply calling you out on your own BS, the classy, respectful thing to do is apologize. And while the Colts are indeed a classy organization, that class comes from people like Jim Irsay, Peyton Manning, Gary Brackett, etc.
It most certainly does not come from Bill Polian.
And if the above quote was prompted by a fan calling into the show and offering an apology to Polian, no offense but whoever that was needs to have their head examined. Winning is expected. It does not entitle the team president of the team to act like conceded one having an exaggerated sense of self-importance.
I'm very happy the Colts beat the Ravens. Beating a good team the way the Colts did will always bring a smile to my face. Resting players allowed that to happen, but the issue was not necessarily with resting players. It was how it was done and the lack of respect given to fans after the fact. The situation prior to Saturday was as follows: Had the Colts lost, I likely would have called for Bill Polian's and Jim Caldwell's resignations. And I would not have been alone. Irsay could have then hired Tony Dungy as the president and he would likely have hired Leslie Frazier as the head coach. I would have zero problem with that... had the Colts lost. They didn't, and I have in fact said that Bill Polian was right in saying "momentum is over-rated."
However, it was against the Jets that Polian, essentially, ordered his coach to lay down against. The Jets are who the Colts play next in the AFCCG. Like the Ravens game, this is a game the Colts absolutely must win. If not, Bill Polian will indeed look foolish.
So please Bill, knock off the asshatery. Just. Shut. Up. when it comes to talking about the fans. Stick with the game, the players, strategy, etc. I realize I will never get a "I'm sorry for calling you fans liars," apology from you, Bill. You're too arrogant and full of yourself to admit error on that. However, if there is one thing you owe me and every other Colts fan, it's closure. The closure I refer to comes in the form of beating the Jets in the AFCCG. It was against them that you created this whole silly distraction. It was after that game that you insulted and demeaned your own customers.
Beating them gives closure to all this, Bill. Now shut up and make sure it happens.
Cue someone in the comments posting a GIF of a dude beating a dead horse.
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umm...what was he supposed to say?
I take from your post that the caller called in to apologize for getting so worked up about the prior Jets game. Is there anything Polian could have said in response to avoid your wrath?
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
what was he supposed to say?
This:
I apologize for some of the things I said after that game. I regret any negativity that came from it. I respect all Colts fans, even those I disagree with. While we do not agree on everything, what we all very much want is to win. Please accept my apology for the negative tihngs I said, and let’s move on.Bang! End of issue. We won’t get this kind of apology though. Instead, he just better make damn sure the Colts kick the crap out of the Jets at home.
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Everybody expects that
And I just realise this quitting conversation won’t be over even if we get the Lombardi Trophy
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
Why would Polian apologize?
From my standpoint, either you didn’t listen to the question correctly or you didn’t interpret the question from the transcript correctly.
“Q: Have there been many apologies from people to you and Jim Caldwell for the late-season criticism?”
It would have made him look like a fool now if he had reverersed it and apologized while backing down for what he believed.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 19, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
BBS
“Had the Colts lost, I likely would have called for Bill Polian’s and Jim Caldwell’s resignations. And I would not have been alone. Irsay could have then hired Tony Dungy as the president and he would likely have hired Leslie Frazier as the head coach. I would have zero problem with that… had the Colts lost.”
You lost of a lot of credibility in my view with a comment like this. A lot of wishful thinking (if the Colts had lost) with absolutely no support.
by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jan 19, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Still grinding that axe, eh BBS?
I know you feel like Polian peed in your cereal, but even though I don’t have any stats to back this up, I’m pretty sure you’re the last person on this site that still gives a shit about sitting the starters in the Jets game. Because I gotta be honest, we’re sitting here one winnable game from the fucking Super Bowl and I’m having a hard time even remembering why anyone cared about 16-0 in the first place.
I'll bet Jay16 still gives a shit
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
LMAO!
You know it’s time to lay down the stick when that guy’s helping you beat the horse.
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 19, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know about you
But I know I and pretty much everyone else is very much give a shit about Week Sixteen if the team we laid down against comes into our building and beats us in a playoff game.
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The laying down
actually gave us a much better shot at winning this one. They’re prepared for a different team than the one that’s coming out to play this weekend. If you expected something else from the Jets game then I’m sorry you got your hopes up for no reason, but you’ve got to stop saying stupid crap like “I’d call for Polian’s resignation”. If that were really the right thing to do, you should advocate it regardless of whether the Colts win or not. Ends don’t justify means.
“pretty much everyone else is very much give a shit….”
Yeah, speak for all of us why don’t you. You sound like a little girl who uses hyperbole too muchlike ‘EVERYONE hates me’ ‘You do that ALL the time’
I don’t believe its near as a high percentage who bitch and moan like you.
He said if the Jets beat us people will give a shit.
I’m sure there will be much more outspoken anger from Colts fans if the Jets beat us.
by ActionOxford on Jan 19, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Please
pretty much everyone else is very much give a shit about Week Sixteen
When will you stop pretending you speak on behalf of every Colts fan?
Have you not read the comments in your previous posts?
Who is arrogant now?
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Jan 19, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
He's becoming one of those "specialists" that we've seen through this whole season
Banging and hitting one button about the Colts defense, offense and now this chance of making history. God damn, we’ll get another shot! How hard is to realise that the franchise is not over?
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
exactly
Dear BBS,
Put down the crack pipe. You don’t speak for all the Colts fans, and honestly at this point, I don’t care about week 16, either. Losing that game to the Jets is likely the reason we’re playing the Jets this weekend instead of the Chargers. And I’d much rather be playing a team with a rookie QB than one who had a QB in the MVP discussion (as much as I detest Rivers).
Maybe Polian is an arrogant, idiotic PR guy… but he’s one of the main reasons we still have a team to cheer for. Assuming he’s not going to change (which he’s not), why not put this crap aside, and write some real articles about the upcoming game. Quite frankly, this crap is getting old from the media, much less from our own fans!!
by ColtsFanInTexas on Jan 19, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
for the 84269348791264879673289468912733468901236480932468706320874 time
The Colts would have thrown away 16-0 in the buffalo game. Want to know why it would have been worse that the Colts rested in the last game of the season? Because if you are one game away, against one of the worst teams in the league, with the expectations of the fans sky high since the Colts would be 15-0, fans would crucify Bill
by metal_militia on Jan 19, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
This NEVER gets mentioned. Even had the Colts beat the Jets, they would NOT have played their starters past a quarter against Buffalo.
Let it go BBS. I log in today to read about the AFCCG and ALL I see posted is more nonsense from someone acting like a 5-year-old who had his favorite teddy bear taken away from him.
The Colts Were Never Going to go 16-0
Of course I was irate at the time but I after the Buffalo game I realized that there was no way the Colts were going to end the season 16-0 even if they had finished the game and beat the Jets. They were going to rest the starters no matter what in Buffalo, in the snow, and with key guys like Freeney, Mathis, Hayden, C. Johnson, and Garcon banged up.
They might’ve ended up 15-1 (which admittedly I would’ve preferred) but they were never going to end up 16-0 this year.
by NaptownMenace on Jan 19, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE WHINE
Bill, no offense, but winning one playoff game (a game your team was supposed to win) does not get you out of the weeds.
Yes it does. One of the main gripes was that we would come out rusty and be a one and done. We were not rusty and we were not one and done. If you think that either resting/not resting will determine if we win the superbowl you are freakin retarded.
Please, our guys are rested, focused and ready to take down our opponent. If we don’t win this week or in Miami it WONT be because we rested our starters for a bit more than a quarter and during a blizzard.
If you wana be pissed about ‘giving up on 16-0’ thats fine and you will be forever pissed but it has nothing to do with playoff success. I think we all learned that lesson last week.
by bbxxj on Jan 19, 2010 8:42 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The hell the Colts O wasn't rusty!
The defense won that game for us. The O couldn’t find the endone a SINGLE time in the second half. That isn’t going to cut it against the Jets.
The Colts have had the Raven’s number for years, a win against the Ravens means absolutely dick. This is the real test. If the Colts can beat the Jets in the AFC title game then you can proudly tout that giving up is a good thing. If the Colts CAN’T bet the Jets then it should be the final nail in the coffin of the ridiculous idea that giving up somehow brings rewards.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Awwwuuuhhhhhh?
Does. Not. Compute.
1. The Colts NEVER handily beat the Ravens. Oh, they beat them every time but it’s always a close game without much impressive offense. Because the Colts played it close to the vest in the second half they were rusty? So were they not rusty in the first half, and suddenly BECAME rusty in the second half? I guess I don’t understand this NFL Rust thing very well.
2. How would losing the second game they play of the playoffs be an indictment against resting players 5 weeks prior, and playing a full game with starters (and winning) between then? I’m confused.
Bill Polian has forgotten more about football than you ever have or ever will know.
Always close with the Ravens?
Seriously? You aren’t kidding? Because…well…that’s just wrong.
2009: 17-15
2008: 31-3
2007: 11-2
2005: 24-7
2002: 22-20
And the Colts found the endzone in back to back drives just before the close of the first half. Otherwise, they spent the rest of the first half punting and kicking a single field goal.
First half drives:
FG
Punt
Punt
TD
TD
Punt
INT
FG
Punt (3 and out)
Punt (3 and out)
Punt (3 and out)
Kneel
Not exactly a model of flawless production.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
You obviously didn't watch the game
The one thing the offense was focused on in the second half was running down the clock.
God hates the New England Patriots
Apparently I paid more attention than you
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
I have to side with Juri on this one. The Colts O phoned it in the second half with the intention of burning clock. They could have put up at least 1 probably 2 mor scores had they wanted to.
by invisibulman on Jan 19, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
So they didn't WANT to score? Really?
And how do you explain the three stalled drives to start the game out? And it isn’t that the Colts couldn’t only find the endzone, they couldn’t even pick up a first down for the last quarter of the game.
Sorry, I don’t buy that the O was firing on all cylinders – not even close.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
A person that is critical of the offensive performance
knows nothing about football.
PM had to fit those passes into the tightest of windows.
Probably one of his most impressive performances so far.
When the were up 14 points at halftime the game was over.
God hates the New England Patriots
And a slavish homer knows even less
Move along.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
So you thought he sucked?
God hates the New England Patriots
And where the hell did I say that?
I said the OFFENSE was rusty. I wasn’t pointing fingers to any one person. If you are going to have a discussion with adults then please try to pay attention to what they actually say.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Blind
The offense was NOT rusty. A rusty O does not put together two terrific TD drives in the final 3 minutes of the first half. They played well against an excellent D and went into a prevent the last 20 minutes. Iowa Hawkeye has argued himself into a corner and is stuck trying to defend an invalid premise.
Did you notice the Ravens Defense?
The Ravens defense played very well especially early in the game. They laid a hit on every reception and every carry. Peyton may have missed a couple of throws early on but his receivers weren’t exactly wide open on those throws either. Still they marched down the field and scored a FG on their first possession. You can call that rust but you’re totally ignoring the Ravens strong defense early on.
by NaptownMenace on Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I love ya BBS
but it’s time to move on. The more you carry on the sadder and sadder you look.
"The critics can criticize but we're the crème dele crème,
Me and P-Dela we blend what they're calling the standard,
Still standing while they're screaming when will it end?"
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by AussieColtsFan on Jan 19, 2010 8:45 AM EST reply actions 7 recs
Can someone list all the available Colts blogs worth reading?
by Drakul on Jan 19, 2010 8:45 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
18and88 is a good one
And they’re not moaning about something from the last month
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
it's 18to88.com
And while I do enjoy them quite a bit, it’s a very different experience. I don’t think you can replace SB with 18to88, you just get a different experience from it
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
yeh
18 is like a library, SB is like a pub. Good info on 18, but hot chicks and booze on SB.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
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I like the analogy, but I'd take it a step further
SB is like a frat party – chicks/booze but also just tons of stuff going on, if you’re looking for something Colts related, it’s here, can get wild, crazier, but there’s definitely some ignorant people around too. 18 is like an old-school pub with a dozen guys in it discussing Colts in a more intelligent level but there is generally only one or two conversations going at a time, also there’s the wise bartender who manages the conversation to keep it from getting dumb
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
i think there's a lot of intelligent [football] discussion on SB
you just have to know where to look
hint: don’t look in open threads
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agreed
I should have emphasized SOME ignorant people. I don’t mean to put down SB. It’s got tons and tons of great content and great discussion. I especially love the stuff mgrex puts out (who doesn’t?)
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Boring
BBS has become like an annoying drunk who tells the same story OVER AND OVER. Give it up and find something else to obsess about.
YEA
Ive never seen anything like it. A group of people saying the same thing over and over… stessing out over something they have no control over… over and over… beating a dead horse… over and over… i cant think of anyone else on this site going nutso and repeating something… over and over. not one person (more like 15)
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I agree with you 100%
but it’s hard for those 15 people to shit up when it keeps making the front page. Ya know?
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
ye i understand
but im feelin UBER dirty having to defend BBS on this one. Like, Dia is gonna have to lick me from head to toe 5 times tonight.
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BBS bitching about Polian...
Everyone else bitching about his bitching…
You bitching about their bitching about his bitching…
Stop the blog, I’m going home.
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 19, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Why not make your own?
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because it's a ton of work
and you’ve done such a good job putting together this one. Just b/c we disagree on this issue, doesn’t mean we don’t appreciate the blog 95% of the time
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
true dat
BBS has written some great stuff, and generally does a great job.
This is one time where I wish he’d stop beating a dead horse half the people (maybe a bit more? just a guess?) on this blog don’t really care about. It’s history.
by ColtsFanInTexas on Jan 19, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
BBS and this staff put a lot of work into this site, making it a must see for me, now daily. But I also have to agree that this whole vendetta against Mr. Polian and “The Decision” seems to have dominated BBS’s thinking for weeks. Shake, mgrex, Jake seem to have moved on. I think a lot of fans have moved beyond it. I personally had let it go by the next day or two. It was a business decision handled fairly poorly, but that happens in life.
With regard to NFL and Colts coverage, this is a fun site to go to routinely. Keep up the analysis.
Clearly we can’t help him with the personal sting BBS felt by Mr. Polian and the Colts. I guess I wasn’t affronted by the Colts actions, other people were. So be it.
BBS lost in the woods
BBS you must be lost in the woods. Love all your writings about the team but this stuff with Polian is done. Lets look at analysis how we defeat the Jets and the stellar effort given by the team in blue this past week. Go Colts.
I don't know if Bill will look foolish
but his comments did bother me. Look, whether you care about week 16 or not. Whether you wanted the starters pulled, whether you think it was handled properly, etc… none of that really matters.
I think most people, regardless of what side of the fence you come down on, agree that Bill Polian handled the whole situation poorly. He was a dumpster fire of a PR man, especially on his Monday radio show the next day.
This situation would be akin to my wife and I going on a trip, getting sort of wrong, my wife saying, ‘take a left’, and then me going, ‘YOU STUPID (@^ING @(&% SHUT THE #*%( UP AND LET ME DRIVE YOU (&$(% (&#%(@ (@((# %*&%(*(# @(*(%&(*&$ (&(&%’, and then after we get there my way going, ‘you don’t need to apologize for telling me to go left, asshole.’
Whether or not his football decision was correct, his PR decisions were wrong, and he shouldnt be so arrogant as to say, lawl you dont have to say you’re sorry to me!
And to everyone saying, ‘omg wheres a blog i can read!?’ www.google.ca, type in colts blogs. Seriously, you saw what the topic was before clicking on it, if you don’t like it, there’s a myriad of other posts on a myriad of other subjects available.
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I was trying to say I disagreed with BBS in a clever way.
Guess I failed. Spaz.
its not just you
the same people post, ‘THE HORSE IS DEAD, MAKE GLUE ALREAADY’
okay… THE GLUE IS SNIFFED, MAKE BUZZ ALREADY..
i dunno,
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Unfortunately, StampedeBlue is normally a great Blog and it's popular,
So when BBs says this bullshit, the larger media thinks this is what ALL Colts fans believe and they run with it.
“With great power, comes great responsibility”
Excelsior!
either way
the only thing all these posts are gonna do is make BBS post more.
And, again, I don’t view it as beating a dead horse. Its a new issue. I mean, its in the medias conciousness, which means its in the fans conciousness. People who hang out on 18 or on SB arent normal fans. Most of the 67000 that hang out at the Luke on Sundays aren’t hangin out on message boards all week. Those people are more influenced by CBS/FOX/ESPN than people that get ADD from internet information overload.
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Joseph Addai is a good running back.
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I think/hope everyone agrees it was a PR disaster
whether or not you agreed with the original decision. But of course that was PR issue, several weeks ago, and now we’re a game away from the super bowl. And unless you like sleeping on the couch, you should definitely apologize to the wife
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
use Google Canada eh...
doesn’t it only do searches in French about hockey?
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.hockey.qc.ca/index.jsp
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Joseph Addai is a good running back.
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Whoa...
went to that site, and suddenly felt the urge to drink Labatt Blue.
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
go for Molsen
they own Canadiens de Montreal… el bleu, blance et rouge… club hockey de canadien… les habitants…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
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And Google Brazil
is supposed to do searches in Portuguese about soccer
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
I agree
someone should shut up.
18to88.com
by deshawn zombie on Jan 19, 2010 8:50 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
OH SNAP
18to88 vs Stampede Blue part II is ON
Blog fight!!!!
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Thank you, DZ.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The first known contraceptive was crocodile dung, used by Egyptians in 2000 B.C.
Coming from the "other side of the arguement" (and that's a gross over-simplification of my feelings on the matter), the goal is the Super Bowl.
BBS is dead on right with saying that the debate’s not over. Do I wish this wouldn’t cover the front page and invite trolls? Yes.
Thinking that one playoff win is good enough is what cost us in 2004.
2004?
In 2004 we were playing one of the all-time great teams in the Patriots IN Foxboro.
The comparison doesn’t really hang together.
Meh, sometimes it's hard to explain how my head works, especially when I have limited time to post.
It’s about not assuming things will work out before they do…I don’t know, I don’t have enough time to post a more complete answer right now…maybe later if I still feel strongly about it…
by vintagephoenix on Jan 19, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
One game isn’t enough but that’s not the point.
The Ravens game showed that if we win or lose it will have NOTHING to do with rust but just less talent or execution and NOTHING to do with resting the starters. That’s the point.
by bbxxj on Jan 19, 2010 9:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The point of resting is to get to the Super Bowl.
Anything less leaves the door open to this debate to remain more than just a fight between hard-liners with their minds made up trying to convince other hard-liners that aren’t going to listen. You know, the kind of thing that makes forums/blogs fall apart and die…
by vintagephoenix on Jan 19, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
He's right.
Can you imagine the backlash if we lost to the Jets? A team we could have knocked out of the playoffs..all the while continuing the perfect season. Polian would be driven out of Indy.
Now with that said, the Colts will beat the Jets and all will be forgotten.
by HappyLittleTreez on Jan 19, 2010 8:56 AM EST reply actions
"Cue someone in the comments posting a GIF of a dude beating a dead horse."
Insert Clever Statement Here
aw...
the animated one is soo much better.
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Beating a dead Kangaroo...
must be the Australian saying. In India, I bet they say “beating a dead elephant.”
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
In China, they say "beating a dead panda"
And in Russian, dead horse is beating you!
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
With a llama's head!
Why, for God’s sake, can the Brazilian guy never remember the part about the llama’s head?!? Doesn’t everyone in your country have like 2 or 3 of them in their back yard?!
/beats smaller dead horse, possibly pony
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 19, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Uh hum...
Cue someone in the comments posting a GIF of a dude beating a dead horse.
YOU’RE, LIKE, NOT OUR BOSS, MAN! Plus there ain’t no horse left to beat, it dun been beaten into the ground.
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 8:56 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
can we flag this for inappropriate commentary?
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Painter is questionable!!? You gotta be fisting me.
Really? Questionable? Seriously? WTF? Did you sprain your ankle jumping out of bed because you had a nightmare that you had to play in the AFC Championship game??
"Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard."
Manning: “No, seriously, you’re going in.”
Painter: “Ha….no really, you don’t understand…I can’t find my helmet.”
"Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard."
by IndieColt on Jan 19, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Painter probably fumbled that too...
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 19, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
I feel bad for Painter
What’s sad is he was put into an impossible situation where there was really no chance for him to come out ahead. Now we’ll never know just how capable of a backup he could have been because he’ll always be tarred by some with the memory of a meaningless game in week 16 of the 2009 season.
Bill Polian has forgotten more about football than you ever have or ever will know.
Painter looks a bit drunk in that shot
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
he looks a little drunk to me
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
he looks a little drunk to me
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Intervention
I’m going to say something here that’s going to sound harsh, BBS, but it’s for your own good. It will be difficult to hear, but sometimes we have to tell the people we like things they might not want to hear…
You are acting like Bob Kravitz.
I know! I know! It’s a terrible thing to say to someone, but it’s not something I say lightly. I say it because Bob Kravitz’s entire Method Of Writing About The Colts is the following: Bill Poilian has said mean things to me [in your case me = a segment of the fanbase] and/or not done exactly what I want him to do, so I’m going to continually rip him to pieces and hold him to standards that no one can meet just so I can feel better and prop myself up as Someone Who Makes Bold Statements To Colts Authority.
Hopefully, we can all help you through this difficult time. We’re here for you, BBS. But this is an intervention that needed to happen.
Bill Polian has forgotten more about football than you ever have or ever will know.
by jdb on Jan 19, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions 13 recs
Yeah i said that a couple weeks ago
the similarities are striking at this point
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Well said
Bob Kravitz? Oh, oh.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Jan 19, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with the comments
Our team is preparing for the AFC championship game and all there is to talk about is continuing to question a decision made a month ago? As BBS stated in his immediately previous post, “Momentum is over-rated.” So by his own admission intentionally giving up the momentum of winning 14 straight games in the season in order to rest players for the playoffs did not hurt the team’s ability to perform in the playoffs. So if the main beef is that Bill Polian is a jerk, isn’t that old news? We just didn’t complain about it when he was crafting season after season of winning football teams until he took away a chance for a perfect team by choosing not to unnecessarily risk injuries that could derail the main goal every season – a Super Bowl win. Do I wish the Colts were 17-0 right now? Of course! But I think I can be content with a second Super Bowl win in 4 years. Honestly, the only way I’ll second guess losing those games is if the Colts are SB champs and I start to wonder if they could also have made it to 19-0. If they lose with the rest, they would probably have lost without it, and then what’s that perfect 16-0 season worth?
by jedye on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Can someone put up a poll
So we can vote whether this is a dead horse or not… I’d like to know what the majority thinks.
God hates the New England Patriots
by Juri on Jan 19, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It is about as much of a dead horse as posters whining about BBS
No one forced you to click on the link or read the article.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
Well you love reading a blog then suddenly it turns into asshat time.
I’m a little disappointed.
Like my best friend married a fat bitch and I’ll never hang with him again.
true story.
by Drakul on Jan 19, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
67.000 people seemed to have moved on last night
At least I didn’t hear anyone not cheering for the team.
God hates the New England Patriots
"asshat time"
That is my new favorite phrase of the day, I think. Thanks! :)
Bill Polian has forgotten more about football than you ever have or ever will know.
Really? You love every single post?
Or do you pick and choose which ones you want to read? If you don’t like a particular subjet then DON’T READ THAT SUBJECT. I don’t know why this is so hard for some people to figure out.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
it's not a matter of whether you like the subject
I guess BBS, and everyone else who ever posts anything on a blog, is allowed to post what they think, and if we don’t like it, we should all just ignore it, and only people who agree should post comments?
Then we could all be happy, smoke a fat one together, and live in peace and harmony forever?
Think about what you’re saying.
by ColtsFanInTexas on Jan 19, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Or you could abide your own advice
and quite whinning. Tell me, why is your whinning any more rightous than his?
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
or you could turn this personal instead of thinking about what you said
Look, I get your point about my whining vs. his. Point taken. However, in my mind- neither one is “righteous”, and I actually don’t see either one as whining. All I’m saying is that I enjoy 95% of BBS’s writing, and I just wish he’d spend his time writing about stuff that more than 15 people still care about. On the other hand, he’s the blogger, not me, and he’s perfectly capable of telling me to go jump in a lake.
On the other hand, back to your original post- I don’t just read things I like or agree with. I read and/or choose to post about things that interest me. Everyone has a right to their opinion. I’m entitled to post mine. Who knows? I might decide they’re right, or they might decide I’m right. If I take your way of doing things, I’ll never read anything I disagree with, and therefore never hear both sides of the story. Maybe some people like to have informed opinions, which would include listening to everything. Is that so hard to understand?
by ColtsFanInTexas on Jan 19, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just joined the group...
“BBS needs to let it go” on Facebook.
You should come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo until I google all over your facebook.
I'm gonna say
it was sarcastic, then again it wouldn’t surprise me if it was there
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Ummm...
how about we just focus on the Jets in the divisional round and not Week 16….who cares, that is the past, can’t change anything now. What is done is done, so much like the unified Colts team, lets establish that mentality for the next 3 weeks and then feel free to verbally kick the shit outta each other til September 2010. :)
Even Michael Jackson wants us to do this….
Shonn Green on the radio
“Chargers have a better D than the Colts and the Chargers LB are better than the Colts.”
on Steven A Smith this morning around 8ish.
Don’t ask why I was listening to the show. It’s horrible.
Stupid rookie
Disrespecting our D. He’s going to feel the love from #55
God hates the New England Patriots
Here is a quick breakdown of the regular season ranks of the three teams.
By themselves these kinds of stats mean very little, but they are interesting to consider.
So Green saying that the Chargers D is better than the Colts is "statistically " true, but only by the narrowest of margins. Basically he is talking nonsense.
Forgot to add point per game, but the Colts and Chargers were within .8 points of one another, so again, virtually identical.
Disclaimer: I am no staistician, this is simply to show that Green is basically hyping and not really accurate.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Nice Stats...
Doesn’t this discussion fail to recognize that for the last 1.5 games, the Colts Defensive stats were skewed because of who we had playing in the game? I believe we were a top 3 points allowed defense for the majority of the year.
There are plenty of factor to consider. My point was that Green saying the Chargers Defense is better is basically a wash.
The Colts defense is comparable to the Chargers, so the Chargers are not a “better” defense.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Jan 19, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Idiot
This post is absolutely moronic. Are you GD serious? You would have called for the resignation of Bill Polian and Jim Caldwell? Over a decision to rest starters for the playoffs? What a bunch of entitled, whiny, cry baby fans you have become. I have enjoyed reading stampede blue for a long time now, but this kind of crap is inexcusable. I am removing myself as a user from this site, as I can no longer take anything written on it seriously. Hacks. We are on the verge of a second super bowl appearance in 4 years, and the negativity surrounding this team over what was a defensible and relatively minor controversy is nearly completely drowning out the celebration. Fans like you should be ashamed, after all the winning we have come to enjoy because of people like Polian and Caldwell, all you can do is complain. Shut up. Go cheer for another team. Loser.
by mdorwart on Jan 19, 2010 10:01 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
It's fine to criticize BBS
But saying “I won’t be coming here anymore” as if that’s some sort of earthshattering disaster is straight of out the entitled douchebag handbook. Sorry you couldn’t handle a disagreement on your internets. See you in another life.
by slash196 on Jan 19, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you take the Internet seriously.
You have a bigger problem than BBS does.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
For those of you who haven't started to hate on the Jets...
Watch the video blog below. It’s Gary Vay-nur-chuck from wine library tv and he will NOT shut up about the Jets. Normally, I like this guy, but not this week.
http://tv.winelibrary.com/2010/01/18/football-and-wine-and-football-episode-802/
You should come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo until I google all over your facebook.
Let us look at it objectively
“The decision” to bench starters – the history was there, the timing was pathetic and an undefeated season was never on the line prior to that. So the commotion is understandable but to prolong it is detrimental to the team. One of my co-workers, he wants the Colts to lose just out of spite for throwing that Jets game. It is one thing to be mad at Polian, it is another thing to be irrational and take it out on the players that made us dream of an undefeated season in the first place.
But look at our roster, Polian knows, most knowledgeable Colts fans know it, our depth at key positions is pathetic. Our DT play after AJ & Muir, huge dropoff if anything were to happen to them. Our DE play after Freeney & Mathis, if one of them is not available, a huge dropoff in our pass rush (whichever way we spin it, we are at a point where Freeney & Mathis need each other). With Sanders on IR, Bullitt staying healthy is a must, so is Bethea. The Colts’ top 20-25 players can compete with anyone in the NFL but I can bet the Steelers, Chargers, and Patriots’ players in the rung 25-40 will demolish our depth. Polian knows it, that is a weakness he has hedged his bets on by making our DE the highest paid DE then, our Bob Sanders the highest paid safety then, Dallas Clark the highest paid TE, and so on. Too much invested in a fewer eggs in the basket, a risk Polian has taken consistently and if our team were to go all out for an undefeated season, and one of our DTs or DEs or Bullitt goes down, huge dropoff in backup quality to play the elite teams, IMO. Brackett went down at the end of last season and Gates went off on us in the Chargers game. Freeney went down at the end of the previous season (2007) and Volek had the cushiest pocket every known for a backup QB in the playoffs, IMO :-). Our depth sucks, let us face it.
It is not easy being Polian and managing the expectations of a 14-0 season but if we had gone for the undefeated season all out in that Buffalo snow, I can bet we would have been more banged up than we bargained for. A 16-0 season with a playoff loss due to a banged up squad would only cement our legacy as playoff underachievers. The Patriots had 3 SBs in hand, so they could aspire for greatness, we just do not have that kind of SB capital and the management was feeling the pressure for the constant underachievement. Now that they know what fan reaction is, maybe once we get multiple SBs, if we have 2 home games to end the season and we are 14-0 another time, maybe things will be different, a BIG MAYBE.
by chad72 on Jan 19, 2010 10:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Can’t we move on from this. If this is our big gripe then we’re pretty spoiled as fans. They’re one game from the Super Bowl.
If someone wouldn’t have gotten hurt at the end of Jets game or in the Bills game everyone would have been calling for Caldwell/Polian’s head. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Jeez......
Get over it already. Polian is not going to write you a personal apology, nor is he going to do the same for anyone else. The issue was whether resting starters week 16 1/2 and on would make us rusty. It didn’t. What was “obvious” according to the sports media was that SD and Dallas were the hot teams and would be in the Super Bowl. Polian: 1, Media: -1000000000.
The issue was rust. Polian proved that was a bunch of BS, and so was momentum, when we romped the Ravens last week. You just won’t let this go, even when the team is looking great, and the “momentum” teams collapsed. If we somehow lose, it won’t be due to rust.
If we win the Super Bowl, can you please enjoy it, rather than write a new post about how we could have been the best team of all time and Bill Polian screwed us and you hate Bill Polian and we should fire Bill Polian, etc., etc., etc.?
This is beyond beating a dead horse. This is just sounding bitter and spoiled. Let’s just focus on the Super Bowl journey and what lies ahead, rather than hearing about how Polian “wronged” everyone.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
by npb1985 on Jan 19, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
To me
It looks like he’s doing the Slap Chop “Chop Chop Chop Chop”…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA
Minute 3:00….Polian woulda slap chopped much better.
Coola den Jeff Geroge's mustache.
"Okay, well maybe we should tell that to Rain Man, because he practically bankrupted a casino, and he was a ri-tard."
I'm confused...
How did week 16 not matter anymore when the team the Colts gave up against, helped give a pass into the playoffs too, and also showed the Bengals and Chargers what happens when you belittle them, is about to play us for a chance at the Super Bowl.
People let’s be real here, if week 16s ending was different, we might be playing someone else right now. And don’t give me that id rather play the Jets than Chargers card because clearly the Jets are going to give the Colts a run for their money.
Week 16 didn’t happen, this game is against someone else.
by Gelatin on Jan 19, 2010 11:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions
so you are saying you'd rather play
the Broncos, Texans, Steelers, Jaguars, Patriots and Chargers rather than the Jets. Because they are in this game that makes them the best team of those select teams? It has nothing to do with playing a beat up Bengals (who weren’t great to begin with) and arguably the best kicker in the league imploding in a game? You’re saying the Jets are the team we wanted to play the least?
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
Yes, I would rather play a team that didn’t have the best Pass D in the league.
by Gelatin on Jan 19, 2010 10:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm still mad about that Jets thing but,
and while I agree that maybe Bill Polian shouldve done in some other way, he didn’t. He won’t. If the Colts win the SB (which I believe they will), what can anyone say to him?
“Why did you threw that game?” BP: “Does it really matter? We won the SB”
And even if we all say that we wanted that undefeated season because it does matter, he won’t even care, nor many fans.
I mean, I agree with BBS. Sometimes Polian is an ass and many of his words ain’t the ones that would please the fans or at least be prudent, but in the end, its his job to manage a football team, not deal with fans or press (which he clearly sucks at).
End this thing, win the AFCCG, then the SB.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
The most amazing thing to me
after a month of this, is that the majority of the people rappin out to ‘Beatin Da Dead Horse’ are making up issues. Most people are/were upset with how the situation was handled (not going to get into it again) and NOT the fact that people were rested.
What I’m tryin to say is, if you wanna say someone is beating a dead horse, atleast know what the fuck horse they are beating, okay? I’m going to start FLAGGING (THATS RIGHT, I SAID FLAGGING) people that say LOL BEATING DEAD HORSE REST IS GOOD. Don’t laugh, i’ll do it. FLAGGGGEDDDD
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
true
rest has nothing to do with this. But as you say, let’s not get into it again.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
by BlueMark1821 on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Week 15
Ok people we need to let it go. I have been a colts fan for 23 years I have seen the good and I have seen(well words cannot describe). Although it would have been awesome to go undefeated I would not have wanted Manning ,Wayne,Clark,Garcon,or countless others to have been injured in a meaningless game. Maybe they thought the Jets could pull off the upset in SD that is why they allowed the starters to be pulled. I am sure we will never know for sure. Polian can be whatever he wants to be in my book because since he came to Indy I do not have to be ashamed to wear colts clothing and I no longer hear C-ount o-n l-osing t-his S-unday.I believe we will take care of business in the afc championship game as well as the Super Bowl because suddenly we do not rely on manning to win every game we have a good defense. Who cares about yards given up, as long as all they get is field goals and Manning and our offense keeps getting touchdowns. If he can’t be nice to people who call in maybe they should have someone else screen the calls so he only has to answer questions that pertain to how far we get in the playoffs. I am a die hard fan not a bandwagon fan and I hope that after the Manning era is over that all those people who want to complain about a meaningless game look back and say at least Peyton got to play for many years instaed of being hurt after trying to break an unimportant record.
I stopped reading when I got to this, emphasis mine….
Bill, no offense, but winning one playoff game (a game your team was supposed to win) does not get you out of the weeds.
A little arogant isn’t it, there are no guarantees or gimme games in the NFL and BBS should know that, especailly playoff games. Ask the Chargers about a game they SHOULD HAVE won being the “hottest” team coming into the playoffs. Unbelieveable how spoiled this teams fans have become .
IN POLIAN I TRUST
“There are no guarantees or gimme games in the NFL”
If that was the case, the Colts would be undeafeated and the Jets wouldn’t be playing in the AFCCG now would they?
by Gelatin on Jan 19, 2010 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
but it’s time to move on.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
by BlueMark1821 on Jan 19, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
as always,
you bring the boobs brains to the discussion. Hows work going?
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
My boobs have more brains than most have brains.
They can even predict the weather.
It’s going well. My presentation went well even if I wanted a nap the whole time. Back to working I guess. :(
And how do you do?
your boobs are the 8th and 9th wonders of the world..
Day is OK. Had to deal with douchey cable guy hooking up our phone (we’ve been using cells for the past few months, decided to get a “land line” for long distance and phone sex.
I want a nap, too. Let me know when you’re ready.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
Or proper sentence structure.
Or the lack of nap correlates with the lack of sentences that make sense.
i understood ya:)
just wear some glasses, say you had an eye exam, and then doze off.. e-z p-z
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
and yes
dealing with rogers sucks… when we had our house down town, we had rogers, we called and cancelled it in june of 05.. so in august of 05, after we’ve been in the house for 2+ months, we get a bill from the old house for 3 months of service… and im like, we moved and cancelled.. and they’re like, pay the bill, and im like, we cancelled, and so we go back and forth, and then im like, look, go into your snazzy computer and tell me how many calls were made/received, tell me how much bandwidth was used, tell me how many pornos were ordered.. the answer in every case will be zero, BECAUSE WE DONT LIVE THERE AND WE CANCELLED OUR SERVICE.
After like 90 minutes of circular talking, he finally just said to forget the bill, just to shut me up, i think.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
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Hello, Ladies!
SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP
CHRIST! Could this get any more pointless?? How many times did Polian and Caldwell say the priorities were, in order: 1. Get in the best position for the playoffs, 2. Win regular season games. What the fuck is he supposed to apologize for? Doing exactly what he said he would do?
WE KNOW that you’re butthurt about losing the dream of the perfect season. I wanted it too. But even more than that I wanted to not get bounced in the first playoff game AGAIN. And guess what? Not only did we not get bounced, we put on a defensive clinic at the expense of the supposedly tough-as-nails Ravens precisely BECAUSE everyone was as well-rested and healthy and ready as it was possible for them to be.
Bill Polian wants a Super Bowl win. You want the moon and the stars and the best season EVAR!!! At the end of the day I have to admit that Bill’s goal is the realistic one.
But for the love of all that is holy, GIVE IT A REST ALREADY. You’re just throwing the same tantrum again and again with absolutely nothing new to add.
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
by szquirrel on Jan 19, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Heres something new,
The team we quit against (the Jets) are now our last and biggest obstacle that stands between a SB and a dissapointment.
This isn’t the Jets team we could have walked on with the starters a month ago.
by Gelatin on Jan 19, 2010 12:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
The team we quit against (the Jets) are now our last and biggest obstacle that stands between a SB and a dissapointment.
I thought we would have to play the Super Bowl too? But I guess we have the trophy if we win Sunday?
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Jan 19, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
That's what he said.....allow me to illustrate for you.
- = Colts
% = Jets
<> = Superbowl
So:
- % <>
That help?
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
The ROSENFAIL : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKAKE-uq-8&feature=related
by TexansForever on Jan 19, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think Gizzard's point
is that there’s an NFC team in the mix there before we get another Lombardi Trophy.
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
The Colts: We play more football in the fourth quarter than some teams play all year!
Ding ding
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Jan 19, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea what you mean.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Jan 19, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
You sure got me there
We were walking on them a month ago with only 2/3 of our starters. What happens now that we have the other 1/3 healthy and playing again?
You guessed it:
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
And I’m going to assume you thought the Chargers were going to walk all over them too?
by Gelatin on Jan 19, 2010 10:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought the Chargers were going to WIN, sure
But if you look back over their record, it’s not exactly shocking that the Chargers couldn’t handle a tough defense.
Just looking at the Chargers’ opponents and their DVOA rankings you can see that the Chargers played 5 regular season games against top-10 defensive teams (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Philly, Denver x2). Their record in those games was 2-3. In other words, every time the Chargers lost this year it was against a top defense. So what happened when they went up against the Jets (who are #1)? That record dropped to 2-4.
The Colts also played five top-10 defenses in the regular season (SF, Baltimore, Denver, Jets, Buffalo) and went 3-2, but the Jets game at least was going well before the Manning was pulled and the Buffalo game was never even serious. And in a game that really mattered against the #3 defense (Baltimore) the Colts got it done, decisively.
So no, I’m not afraid of the Jets. There are no guarantees in football and anything could happen but this is certainly a winnable game for the Colts.
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
My bad, the Chargers also beat Dallas
Which makes them 3-3 against top-10 defenses in the regular season. Same argument stands, though. Apparently defense was a good way to beat the Chargers this year.
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
Bunches of Flags, i tell ya...
Can someone explain something to me… when it comes to this situation, how does, ‘Polian has drafted Manning and Session and Wayne and Freeney and this and that and the other and blah and bleh and meh’, etc… have any bearing on the conversation?
This is a serious question, so I would like some serious, well thought out answers. Are you incapable of making mistakes if you have made some good draft picks (and probably an equal number of bad ones, if you want to go through his tenure in Indy)? Are you immune from criticism?
I look forward to an intelligent discussion on this matter.
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To make this at least approach an intelligent discussion
List for us the questions you would like to address, and provide us your perspective. If BBS would like, he can include his – without the emotion and rancor and general nastiness please. A discussion should not fall into name calling and screaming with ones fingers.
I will try to get back and take part when I can.
I cant give a list of questions.
I don’t understand the mindset. There are people in this thread listing Polian’s accomplishments in a response to BBS’ post. I don’t understand the relevance.
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The way I see it, I would prefer BBS and Shake and mgrex analyze the game this Sunday for the opportunity to win a championship. Show me how successful the Jets have been on 1st, and 3rd downs running and throwing the ball say over the last 6 weeks. Evaluate matchups, don’t tell me “We should kick the S+++ out of the Jets’” becasue we are the Colts. Evaluate the players O vs. D, special teams, something to do with the one thing the matters – the NEXT game.
With regard to people yelling at BBS to “get over it”, that won’t work because it seems he might never get over this apparent insult. They need to let it go (their own frustration at BBS) as much as he does.
With regard to rest v. rust v. momentum, it will only be put to bed until the next time a team with playoff position sits some players out and low and behold – they lose. It happens to even the best teams. They lose for one reason or another, but people will inevitably find an excuse – rust, rest, stabbed in the legs, laces out, etc.
with regards to articles on teh AFCCG
l just made a post on this – regardless of what was said on BPs show last night, there has never been a game preview done on mondy or tuesday since i’ve been on this site. By Friday, we’ll have 4 from BBS, Shake, KR and Mgrex… BBS is just covering the news as it comes, if BP doesn’t say anything, he doesn’t make this post. THere are ways of giving answers to questions without being a douche (or so I’m told).
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I think BBS just posts these to bring in traffic.
He knows nobody is interested in this shit anymore. Its playoff time, one win away from the SB… no one cares about Polian right now.
But it effectively creates a 200 comments like clockwork.
Part of being a good writer is knowing your fan base and knowing who you are “talking” too. BBS instead loves to get on a couple things (bad reporters and polian) andbeat them into the ground.
there is no more horse… its just a blood puddle with chips of bones.
He knows nobody is interested in this shit anymore. Its playoff time, one win away from the SB… no one cares about Polian right now
Damnit, did I miss the elections for "Person that will speak for hundres of thousands of fans " again? When was it? I would like to throw my hat into the ring, can we get a do over?
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“It does not entitle the team president of the team to act like a conceded jerk.”
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Hmm...
Polian could have handled things differently, to be sure. I wouldn’t say this situation mars an otherwise stellar career. I certainly wouldn’t say he has no class. If that is your opinion, so be it.
Do any of you watch LOST? If so, then remember the words of Sawyer…“what’s done is done.” This situation is becoming tiresome, and in the end there are no easy solutions.
To look at this quote by Polian yesterday, I think it is important to also know the question that was posed to him. That might help understand his answer. Here it is:
“Q: Have there been many apologies from people to you and Jim Caldwell for the late-season criticism?
A: We don’t need any apologies. (Former Colts Head Coach) Tony Dungy had a great saying that he memorialized in very large print in our locker room, both at our practice facility and down at the stadium. It says, ‘No Explanations, No Excuses.’ That’s the way we go about our business. You can add, ‘No Apologies Necessary’ to that. We’re going to do our job to the best of our ability and do what we think is right based on our long experience in this game. We recognize that people are going to disagree with that from time to time, and they have every right to. In the end, all you can do is the best you can do. If it works out right, that’s wonderful and if it doesn’t, that’s OK, too. At least you gave it your best shot.”
I’m not arguing that you shouldn’t take offense to his response, only that you should interpret his response in light of the context. Perhaps he would have answered differently had the question been different.
Just my two cents.
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by lefpsyd on Jan 19, 2010 12:10 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
In my opinion,
The wisest answer he could have given to that question would have simply been, “no.”
Therefore, as much as I am continuously annoyed at BBS’s approach to this topic, I don’t blame him for posting it up one more time. Polian is not a PR man, and he obviously has the gumption to say what’s on his mind. By answering the way he did, he opened the door to further criticism.
I have a feeling BBS and Polian have very similar personalities, and often when two people have similar profiles they tend to have a love-hate relationship. They both tend to speak their mind and have no problem with fanning the flames of controversy with ill-timed words. I would almost pay to see them have a conversation over a beer.
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Wait a minute
You can’t put a quote that you want to blast and use to demean the person saying it…….by PUTTING IT IN CONTEXT!!!! That’s just ridiculous! That would be like, actual good journalism. And that is apparently what at least the main blogger here is trying his best to just away from. BBS must have just got his BA in BS from the Stephen A Smith School of Sensational Journalism from Bob Kravitz University. I think he got in with a scholarship from the Skip Bayless Foundation.
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what lefpsyd
said is spot on. If you don’t see that his answer, in any context, was another in a long line of PR snafus, then you are as blind on this subject asy you claim BBS is. Polian seems like a nice guy, he’s a great GM, he’s shitting the bed on this matter every time he speaks.
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What is PR?
PR is communicating to the public what your organization is trying to accomplish. Bill Polian did that to a T, and did not back down from the Organization’s position. He did not say “Fans who apologize to us are idiots” or even “You should be apologizing, we told you we were super smart!!”. He said exactly what they wanted to do, and that the fans have a right to disagree, but the organization was going to follow its gameplan no matter what. What is wrong with that?
If you do what you are supposed to do, and execute it as planned, and it works the way you planned…..what more do you want? Should he have taken the apologies and said so, lied and said “no”, or said ….what?? It was the exactly right thing to say from someone in his position within an organization that had this as their plan of operation from Day
PR people who lies, deceive, and cobble to their public are spineless and useless in the long run to an organization. Polian owes you no apology, and you don’t owe him one. He did his job, you disagreed, he’s cool with that. If you’re not, what else is he supposed to do?
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If calling people liars is executing PR to a T
I don’t ever want to be involved in anything you do.
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When did he call anyone a liar?
I want the full quote, in context.
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BTW,, I was speaking of this specific quote
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Oh and.....
PR people who lies, deceive, and cobble to their public are spineless and useless in the long run to an organization.
Obviously, you don’t have the ability to read an entire comment when it doesn’t agree with your position.
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uhm
perhaps you’re the one that cant read.
I never said Polian lied. i said he called paying customers liars. You’re very mentally unstable when it comes to this subject. Cross your legs, hold your fiingers in a funny way, and breathe.
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also, if polian had...
PR is communicating to the public what your organization is trying to accomplish. Bill Polian did that to a T
there wouldnt be this issue. Polian’s ‘message’ and the organizations actions were contradictory for a time.
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mentally unstable was the wrong choice of words
overly emotional is better.
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show me the quote, in context, where polian called paying customers liars. It’s not that I don’t believe you, I just want to see it and don’t have time to look it up myself. kthxbai
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we'll need to ask for a life line
does aanyone know if that question/answer was put in to the “Polian Corner” after the first Jets game?
In case it wasn’t. you dont have to believe me, the 100 people in the live thread heard him say it… basically it was this:
“Mr. Polian, what would you say to people like myself that spent money we don’t really have on a game, full price, in these hard economic times, where money is tight, only to see you play it like a preseason game?”
“Well, I’d say that you arent being serious. it sounds to me like you’re using ‘talking points’ rather than being serious. Thats what it sounds like to me”
paraphrased, but everyone can confirm that was listening that night.
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clearly those were interestingly chosen words, but at least he was being himself. Now, what I don’t get from that is him calling anyone a liar. By mentioning “talking points” he is certainly insinuating that the particular fan on the phone was wording the question (and/or being influenced to do so) in such a way as to push an opinion as opposed to just finding out information. In other words, it was a leading question in Polian’s opinion and he decided to call it out as such. Now, perhaps he made a poor assessment. Perhaps the caller was not trying to lead him.
In any case, he could have answered it differently and not given up any ground on his position. He could have said, “I appreciate your opinion, and in all due respect I want to let the fans know that we did not intend to jip you in anyway. We incorrectly assumed we had communicated our strategy clearly enough. Evidently that was not the case. At any rate, our position is that we wanted to put our team in the best possible position to be competitive in the postseason and this is the strategy we chose.”
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just re: the lady being a liar
it wasnt just my impression, but that of everyone listening to the show, that he basically called her a liar. Now,you have to understand, I’m a dick head, I appreciate other dick heads. He crossed the dick head line.
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fair enough
but the fact that everyone listening had the same impression doesn’t indicate it being a truth. I agree, though, that he should have stated it better. Still not convinced he called anyone a liar. I’m open to being convinced, but I just haven’t seen enough evidence.
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i think you're proving my point
even if he wasnt calling her a liar, his inability to properly handle a sensitive situation caused a PR problem. He has handled this situation poorly from PR perspective from the get go.
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There's a difference between PR and GOOD PR
Good PR requires that you deliver the message in a palatable way. My opinion is that the Colts need to find a GOOD PR person, AND listen to him/her.
How can you not love a team that does this?
only the women get me on this subject
and i consider that a good thing.
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women have that whole “it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it” thing going on, myself included
How can you not love a team that does this?
I don't think...
BBS is quite as bad as Stephen A Smith; I think he’s just a little too caught up in the hype. It’s all good, it makes sense considering how dedicated he is to this site. I think my perspective is clouded by the fact that, although I love the Colts, I have numerous other things going on in my life that take precedence. I’m sure BBS does too (namely, his new wife;), but it’s clear that he “lives and breathes” Colts football a bit more than most of us. In so doing, I believe he may have gotten himself caught up in the vortex of hype.
I also don’t think Polian is necessarily pooping the bed. He’s sticking to his position, which I applaud. His mistake is that he’s being too “off the cuff” in regards to his responses. If it were between a GM who’s that way and a GM who’s polished, I’ll take the old fart who speaks his mind. That’s just my opinion. I happen to think pulling the starters was the wise move, especially considering the health of the team. It’s like a horse race…the one that hangs back til the final turn has a better chance of winning with a sprint to the finish than does the one who tries to sprint the whole way. You gotta just play the odds. The only failure here was in PR.
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Obviously he's not
I was being sensational myself to inject a little humor. And I agree with you. Let the man do his job and tell us how it really is.
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BBS
While you continue to go on and on about something that is over, and done with, 18 to 88 has managed to pump out a couple of articles about the TEAMS THAT ARE PLAYING THIS WEEK. You know, in the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP. Wonder what you get for winning that game? Sure as shit isnt a time machine to go back and fix the broken hearts that think you get a trophy for a perfect season.
Again, dropping by for info and seeing the same garbage about this issue over and over is why I’ve probably posted a grand total of 10 comments here since week 16.
numbers of articles on the front page related to this:
1
Number of articles on the front page related to the playoffs: [number of articles you display on front page at one time] – 1.
SB’s game previews never come out on monday or tuesday. Its Tuesday. There have been 2 game recaps from saturday (the quick and the full), a story on the divisional round, which was tied in to the whole rest/rust ideal in the media, and now something pertaining to the Bill Polian show.
There has also been an open discussion the AFCCG. I’m sure that by Friday there will be 3 preview posts from BBS, Shake, and KR. Also around Friday, mgrex will come out with his winning stats post. Thats the general order of things.
I’m trying to figure out how its going on about something over and over.
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I was referring to the fact that it was debated often in the weeks following the Jets loss. If you dont think its been a heated and frequent topic, you have more patience than I do my friend.
Quote
“It’s you who created this silly distraction.”
True, until week 17. Now, however, who is really creating the distraction, here?
Nope. Not really.
i would argue that literally speaking
BBS couldnt create ‘this distraction’.. At best, he could be accused of perpetuating it.
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Hey! I’m a Bronco fan, but your site is pretty awesome I must admit. I have a Broncos blog “Broncos Zone” and we’ve named “our” best rookies of 2009, Phil Loadholt is one of the 3! Check it out, and let me know what you think. Good luck in the playoffs.
Are we really doing this?!?!
So let me get this straight. We are fans of the team with the best record in the NFL this year and this decade. Our team is only one game away from FINALLY making it to multiple SuperBowls during this unfreakingbelievable run. And we are going to get twisted in a knot over 1 or 2 games? Really? I mean REALLY?
I’m guessing Larry Bird with fork over his left nut to have half this success with the Pacers right now…speaking of which, is there a Pacer’s fan site? Does it get any hits these days? Nevermind.
Ok, so we got set up. Colts won on the road against the Jags in a meaningless game and then came home in front of their paying customers and gave up. That was a major faux pas. But the desired result has already been achieved – we didn’t get hosed in the first round like in years past. An unintended result has also been achieved: we won’t have to put up with getting beaten by the hottest team who retired early from the playoffs either. The team we let in took care of that 800lb gorilla for us.
I would MUCH rather have an arrogant genius flip us the bird every so often if it means we achieve our goals. Forgive his hubris. Good to know he isn’t a perfect genius. Kinda brings him down to our level. Here Bill – have a beer on me! Thanks for keeping the goal in mind: Big Honkin,’ Blue Shoe Adorned, Gaudy-as-all-get-out Rings.
Now, can we kindly put this crap in the rear view and ride this beast of a team all over Ryan’s behemoth backside, (taking a brief moment to put it in reverse and hitting him again) then on to Miami and Superbowl Glory? Please?
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How dare you distract us from this?
Thanks for the link. We love us some Collie, even with his questionable fashion choices.
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i would say collie because he had to step in and take over for the absence of a player and did great, Although greene has had a great season and helped his team he wasn’t having to jump in and replace someone. I dont know much about the RT for the vikings.
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"Cue someone in the comments posting a GIF of a dude beating a dead horse"
Actually, I was thinking this would be more appropriate:
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which channel?
i heard he was on dan patrick today.
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He was on First Take, I think it
was a repeat from earlier in the day. The interview was craziness free thankfully. He’s PC while being assertive and confident. Many could learn from him.
ahh, i dont get espn
orthe duece… guess i’ll just have to stare at my nood dfree poster that hangs over my bed.
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ESPN THE OCHO
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espn is better
when they stop thinking of themselves as god’s gift to tv.
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why they insist on having ESPN Dallas, ESPN Boston, ESPN Alaska, ESPN Hawaii, ESPN Guam. I mean WTF? Do we need that many branches of ESPN?
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its their ego
and also their way of pissing off people that dont live in Dallas, Chicago, NY, and Boston. No one else needs in depth coverage?
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I had the same thought
just yesterday….It makes no sense
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ps
when’s the last time Dallas or Chicago had a sports team worth coverin??
The last Dallas team to win a championship was the Stars (hockey) and the last Chicago team was… I guess the white sox won? I dont care about baseball until the Cubs stop sucking.
And if you ARE going to do this, why not something like ESPNMidwest, and include Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Detwah, etc?
No sense.
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Kind of like what Fox Sports has?
I get Fox Sports Ohio and Fox Sports South – so I’m screwed either way.
yea
but it makes sense in that case, because they are offering regionalized TV coverage. ESPN is just admitting ‘we only care about these 4 markets’. The only reason I even visit ESPN is because I love their fantasy interface.
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The only reason I even look at ESPN when I'm at work
is when they are mentioning the Colts. And by the way, just today, they were talking about how “easy” the Colts road to the Super Bowl is. And they had that Raiders DB on there and he was talkin all kinds of shit about the Colts D and praising the Jets like they were God’s gift to the football world.
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if anyone knows anything about being good
its any player on the raiders roster.
I dont care if it is Nnamdhi Asomugha.
And I try to read anyone that talks about the Colts, but its really hard to find such a beast anymore, even Pete Prisco has moved on to greener pastures, it seems.
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Warren Sapp
is the only person who I agree with everything he says about the Colts. They guy has a HUGE respect for Manning and the Colts organization.
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Oh man, I loved Jason Bateman in that.
And can’t seem to help myself from watching it when it’s on. At least the tourny part.
what i dont get is
anchor man and dodge ball seem to get a lot more play than old school, which i think is superior in every way (including the boob scenes). I love Old School.
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leave it unedited
if the euros can do it, so can we.
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Do we have a AFCCG next week?
Or are the Jets not just worth talking about? Honestly if I was in Polian’s shoes I would probably have said the same thing. Sure he’s arrogant , but behind his arrogance is an incredible knowledge of the game which if we had, we would be GMs making couple of mil a year and not fans.
Shoot, I’ve said the same thing to dumb-ass project managers with little to no skills who try to tell me how to do my job.
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Brandon Stokley is interested in this topic
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by rangerover76 on Jan 19, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
In all seriousness
There are many posts that are discussing the game. Some that are deifying Polian and that’s equally okay. It’s not BBS’s fault that he gets all the comments. Yes, this is front paged and BBS’s style more sensational, but if more commenters rec and respond in one of those threads, it works as well. :)
I don’t want to discuss this topic either. It’s finished for me. I’ve learned a few lessons, I’ve changed my mind about some things, and I’ve moved on. I’m mainly goofing off in this thread. Even the 16-0 pic I posted was supposed to be a joke, but I think people took it seriously because my stupid title text was formatted incorrectly. :(
If that makes any sense.
god its hot when you're serious
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No one else
thinks this is getting weird?
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols
Diagenesis
and I are married… and I have a medical condition. Whats weird about that?>
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
Nope 'cause I get the joke.
Come spend some time in the open threads, you’ll see what most everyone’s like when they let their hair/pants down.
by vintagephoenix on Jan 19, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
I shall rec your post!
"Winning is not everything;the desire to win is" - Vince Lombardi
"Lomu's the Brent Spar with attitude. A figure who inspires hero worship among even those who think a fly-half is a glass of beer consumed when 'er indoors is looking the other way." - Robert Philip Daily
by rangerover76 on Jan 19, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
:D
"Winning is not everything;the desire to win is" - Vince Lombardi
"Lomu's the Brent Spar with attitude. A figure who inspires hero worship among even those who think a fly-half is a glass of beer consumed when 'er indoors is looking the other way." - Robert Philip Daily
stop commenting on BBS rants
IMHO .. If there were no comments he would stop it (I m just as guilty). He is a business man 1st and if article like these generates most traffic why shouldn’t he keep doing it?
this was my original thought
but now im not sure. if all bbs cared about was traffic he would just create a new thread every 4 hours called, ‘Open Thread of the Day #1’ (through #5) and be done with it.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
Haha
Damnit WE don’t get paid and we are the ones posting open threads!! WTF? BBS YOU sir, owe us some money!
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
my mom used to work for Sprint
this was back in the 80s and 90s before the cell-phone boom, so the landline version of sprint… and they had like bogus stock options, so every year my mom would get a dividend check for like 42 cents… uh, hey, guys, save the stamp, ok?
Oh, so the relevance: Thats the kind of kick back we’d be getting from BBS
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
(Atleast) one-time SBNation Comment of the Day Comment Maker Person!
Hello, Ladies!
An open thread every 4 hours.. What a great idea!...
(* BLAP! *) OW!! Who hit me??
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Bill Polian
Everyone needs to get off Bill Polian, Coach Caldwell and Jim Irsay’s back about the Jets game! These are the people who have been responsible for putting the current Colt team together. I’ve been a Colt fan for 44 yrs. In 1999 (Peyton’s second yr) two friends and I traveled from South Dakota and watched the Colts play the Dolphins in the RCA dome. There were almost as many Dolphin fans as Colt fans then. Very few people wore Colt stuff around town. But gee isn’t it amazing that now with all the winning how a lot of local fans have changed! So take it from a REAL Colt fan be thankful you’re had these gentlemen running things in recent years!!! GO COLTS—BEAT THE JETS!!!!
So take it from a REAL Colt fan
Calling other people’s fandom into question because they don’t agree with you is the very definition of being an ass.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jan 19, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
It's also an everyday occurance on the internet. ;)
Welcome to the World Wide Web!! :-D
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
you're correct
SpazMo yes, my thought was not original and you may have picked this up earlier on. and to be honest I don’t know.. but not commenting to an article like this is all we can do… and now I m guilty of commenting twice already..
Man...
I would HATE to have to play offense for the Colts and have to learn all this shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGOFrkA_TlM&feature=related
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
I'm just waiting for the Polian hit piece from BBS AFTER the Colts win the Super Bowl too
Insert Clever Statement Here
it woudnt be about polian, it'd be about, Dungys teams being lead by Peyton and the rest of the team
"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-
~WE AIN'T GOT NO KILLER INSTINCT~
E~~J~~#
D~~A~~3~~IS A BEAST
G~~M~~2
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by 805 on Jan 19, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Instead of this tired topic
why not a thread about the national media and their love affair for the Jets. I am hearing some strange things this week. I expect the hate from usual suspects like Meshawn, Prime Slime, Faulk, Bruschi, etc. But, even Dilfer and Tom Jackson who are usually level-headed are talking crazy. Dilfer can’t acknowledge that the Colts even have a defense and has some theory about the “old school” Jest vs. “new school” Colts. Then, Tom Jackson saying that the Colts have never played a team like the Jets??? That one blew me away.
I love me some Raheem Brock
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We will get our respect on sunday! Once again we will see who has the best defense!
Hit them in the mouth! Maybe if we knock some teeth out too then he won’t talk that much!lol
Well….when someones in ur house talkn shit there’s only one thing that’s gonna happen to shut them up…..
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
off topic
Nnamdi Asomaghu (sp?) is brilliant, well-spoken and smart. Would love to hear him breakdown football more often.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
also Skip Bayless is jizzing his pants over the Colts
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
Except when it comes
to Colts football. The guy jizzed his pants while talking about the Jets.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Again?
Seriously, what is your problem with these illogical and delusional rants you post every several days?
Bill, no offense, but winning one playoff game (a game your team was supposed to win) does not get you out of the weeds. You gave up and quit on a meaningful game back in December not because you simply wanted to beat the Ravens in the Divisional Round. You did it to win the Super Bowl, and anything short of that means the “quitting” strategy was a failure.
Tell me how was our regular season game against the Jets a “meaningful” game? Did it secure the bye? Home field advantage? Did we clinch the AFC south by beating them? How would playing the Jets at full strength contributed to winning the Super Bowl?
And why would “anything short” of winning a Super Bowl validate your claim that the “quitting” strategy is a failure? Do you even understand the logic of pulling starters out of the Jets game? I would really like to hear your explanation because I suspect you are so confused about basic football strategy that you cannot give a clear, precise explanation of it.
When you essentially call fans who criticize you liars, or when you twist words around and lash out at people for simply calling you out on your own BS, the classy, respectful thing to do is apologize.
Do you have a transcript of Polian’s radio show and his exchange with the fans? I’m not trying to be a stickler with the facts, but your penchant to fly loose and quick with the facts is, at this point, very well-known to anyone who reads your blog. What was the exchange between Polian and the fan that he “essentially” called a liar? If you pay attention, I put essentially in quotes because it’s cute little insertions like this that allow you to fudge the facts in a way that gives worms like you wiggle room when writing your boilerplate nonsense.
However, it was against the Jets that Polian, essentially, ordered his coach to lay down against.
Again with the “essentially” added in there! I love it. Anyone who was vaguely aware of the facts knew that the decision was made made together with Polian and Caldwell. Mike Chappell reported that Irsay “could have exercised his veto power” over Caldwell’s decision if he wanted to go for 16-0 (Indystar 12/31/09). So then, how did Polian order “his” coach to lay down against the Jets?
You are the worst type of fan: a classless, knee-jerk bandwagon fan who hopped on, probably around 2003-4. Your posts reek of a guy (or emotional pre-teen) who knows nothing of football but loves to rail over big, bad Bill Polian because he—with his multiple Super Bowl appearances and proven success with drafting talent—didn’t follow your idea of how to run a football team. Talk about arrogant and classless.
What did Polian do to you BBS?
It can only be personal, at this point. Thanks for acknowledging the testiness. Rally Colts Fans. Don’t divide them
Completely agree with every single one of the words you said BBS, you dont make yourself look bad by bringing out the dirty laundry that everyone wants to forget about, its gotta get cleaned out sometime
I always thought Polian has had way to much power in his hands, what does he have like three peoples job manager, president, and a bunch more, yeah his great but we need more people to even it out, i wouldn’t mind paying a lot more bucks to have dungy and like you said frazzier and polian and i guess caldwell working for us, we need to even out the powers different like the branches, the dungy branch, irsay branch, polian branch, peyton branch, and of course the head coach gets one, all the players, and the fans should get a say in some of the options.
"You only get intercepted when you don't know what your doing, I knew what I was Doing."
-Johnny Unitas-
"You're only as healthy as you feel."
-Travis Bickle-
~WE AIN'T GOT NO KILLER INSTINCT~
E~~J~~#
D~~A~~3~~IS A BEAST
G~~M~~2
E.~~E
R.~~S
R
I
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by 805 on Jan 19, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions
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