Forgotten Man?
by tim55 on Jan 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST
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There is a story that I haven't seen yet...maybe it's been written, but like I said, I haven't seen it yet. Why no mention of Pierre Garcon? I happen to think that he may possibly be the weapon that kills the Jets. Last weekend, the Jets played a lot of man to man coverage. The talk has been that Revis will shut down Reggie (which I don't believe for a minute), yet no mention of what Garcon is capable of against man to man defense. I think if NY tries the same strategy against the Colts that was used against San Diego, Garcon and possibly Collie could go off big this Sunday with the attention being given to Wayne and Clark. There has been talk that the Colts won't have the opportunity to go deep because of the Jets pass defense. I think not. The only thing that will keep the Colts from going deep would be an excess of the blitz, which may put Peyton on the ground a time or two, but eventually will get the Jets cut to peices with three step or less drop passes, as well as draws and screens. Add to this the fact that a rookie quarterback facing two healthy all pro defensive ends almost quarantees turnovers. I think the Colts burn NY early, with 10 - 14 points, and force Sanchez to pass, which ultimately will play directly into our hands. Watch Garcon this weekend, I think he will have a career game, and to a lesser degree, Collie too. Watchoo think?
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Maybe so
but either way I want to see Garçon do that awesome stiff arm again. Against Revis would be even better.
How can you not love a team that does this?
Hope he keeps his quickness
He’s proven to be a future major weapon for the team when they played against Arizona and Miami
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
You mean the one against DRC earlier
this year? I would love that.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.
Great passing teams don't sustain drives against the Jets.
That’s just the way it is. The colts won’t put up more than 21 points. Whether or not that will be good enough come Sunday, we shall see.
They only gave up 8 passing TD's all year
and they held the Saint’s offense to just 10 points. I think the most likely scenario is two TD’s, two FG’s for the Colt’s O.
Still...
Even if we only score 20 points, I still like the chances of our defense holding the Jets offense to 19 or less.
by TouchdownMonkey on Jan 22, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe we're able to hold them to only 3 points
Remember: even with better running backs and a slightly better QB, they only scored 3 points in the entire game… Damn how I want to watch a 42 points game by the Colts!
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
absolutely
That is just how I see the game going down on offense for the Colts. You can’t stop Peyton, you cam only hope to contain him, and that’s what shut-down defenses do to to hall of famers. The Jets go into every game looking for a shutout, but I doubt they are expecting it. I’m sure the colts enter every game thinking they are going to put up 40, but I doubt they are expecting it.
He may not be able to score TDs by using screen and slant passes in the endzone
This is totally acceptable. But still, Donald Brown and Joseph Addai weren’t struggling when your team played against ours in LOS. By the way, the only reason the Jets are still in the playoffs is Nate Kaeding properly shoking in the last game. If he had converted those FGs, the Chargers’d be 20 or 23 points against 17 points of your offense. So a big “Child, please” for you and for all Jets fans
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
Of course the Jets can be scored upon.
They just do an excellent job of getting off of the field, which is why they are #1.
Defense and the ground game is how you beat a clearly superior offensive team and the Jets have the best of both. No more than 21 points will be scored (on offense) by the colts.
The Colts will score in the 30s
Rex Ryan is too arrogant to change and Peyton will kill the blitz. The Colts will go up 21-3 or 24-7 at the half and the Jets won’t be able to recover. The only way the Colts don’t get to 30 is if they go conservative in the second half like they did against Baltimore…or if they give Painter some time so as not to run up the score.
I thought you questioning Peyton's manhood for a second there
and was going to have to give you a piece of my mind, lol!
How can you not love a team that does this?
The Jets Pass D was mad soft in 2002, yet...
Colts quarterback Peyton Manning was limited to 14 out of 31 (45.2 percent) completions for 137 yards, with 2 interceptions in that playoff game. I’m just saying anyone can have a bad day. All the pressure is on the Colts. The Jets are playing with house money and are running through walls right now. The smart money is on the Colts, but Sexy Rexy has his team playing the way he said they would at the start of the season. (‘Our message to the league is gonna be clear, and that is ’The Jets are coming.’ and we’re gonna come at you with everything we’ve got and I think in the end, that is going to be more than you can handle.")
should be a great game.
True... players have good games, great games, and poor games.
Seems to me, it’s the team who can bring all the pieces together over a full 40 minutes who’ll win. That speaks to consistency, and there’s no team in the NFL over the past decade who’ve won as consistenly as the Colts.
Should be a great game indeed.
It's 60 minutes...
not 40 :)
18-2-87-4-6... stop me if you've heard this before.
by Marvelous Manning on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Good Call
It sounds like something Sexy Rexy would go for.
18-2-87-4-6... stop me if you've heard this before.
by Marvelous Manning on Jan 22, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
In other current news
The Jets beat the Baltimore Colts 16-7 in Super Bowl III
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 22, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
No stat for physicality
You just have to watch football every week and you’ll see no one pounds their opponents on both sides of the ball like the #1 rushing and defensive team in the league. If you would like to nominate another team for that title, you certainly have a right to your opinion.
Yes, offense wins plenty of games
but we all know that defense wins championships. How many SB’s would the colts have won if they had a top 5 overall D? The Colts win games without running for 100 yards (who doesn’t really?) but the Jets have won games when passing for little more than that mark. You can do that when you avg 165 ypg on the ground.
Our D is playing better than it ever has...
But our stats got distorted when we put our backups in and let people get big numbers. I wouldn’t trade our D for anything.
18-2-87-4-6... stop me if you've heard this before.
by Marvelous Manning on Jan 22, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Says the guy
who’s team is finally back in the AFCCG for the first time since 1998 and hasn’t actually won a Super Bowl since 40 years ago.
The fans from all around the country appreciate your wisdom, champion.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 22, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Your defense is underrated
but the soft spot is still run D. The Jets don’t give up on the run, they keep chopping at that tree until it falls down. That’s why they always get big run gains in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Peyton can’t score if he doesn’t get the ball, but when he does exotic looks and blitzes will throw off his timing enough that it becomes difficult to sustain drives. Football 101 guys. I know you are Colts fans, but I shouldn’t need to explain this stuff.
Didn't mean to call Colt's fans dumb...
just excited about their team which has been historically pass-heavy.
" The Jets don’t give up on the run, they keep chopping at that tree until it falls down."
The Colts seem to have a corner on this, this year. Do you really think you guys will score first and often enough to avoid what the Colts have proven seven times this year? Odds on the Colts score first, and while trying to play catchup, Sanchez makes rookie mistakes and turns the ball over. Freeney alone gave Sanchez fits……now Sanchez will get a dose of Freeney with Mathis on top, drizzled with a Coyer blitz package. I smell turnovers a comin".
NO
Apparently the Jets are going into this game thinking that if they actually score on a possession, the Colts actually have to kickoff back to the Jets so they can try again.
I keep forgetting how the Jets barely got above .500 this season with such a dominant running game and overall defense?
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 22, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Now there's a reach..........
Keep grasping at everything that gives hope…….Hope is all you got, MS.
Did you not see what our D did to Ray Rice last week?
We’ve been playing the run well. Not to mention that we’ll have a big enough lead by the 4th quarter you won’t be able to just pound away. Also, there is no quarterback in the league that reads and responds to the blitz better than Peyton Manning. If you just keep sending people he WILL eat up your defense. Quick screens to Garcon are a personal favorite of mine for beating the blitz. Chances are there will be one man to beat in that situation and he’ll make a move and get a few big plays. Pressure isn’t the answer and if Rex thinks it is this game won’t even be close.
18-2-87-4-6... stop me if you've heard this before.
by Marvelous Manning on Jan 22, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Ray rice is plenty strong but
the ravens run the ball out to the edges a lot, which favors your speedy D. Jets run downhill and get their o-line into the secondary often. Power football FTW on Sunday. I read an interview with Archie Manning and he seems to think the game will go exactly as i see it going…close till the end with either team hoping their special teams can make a big play late.
I think our D is better than that...
I just don’t see the Jets posting more than 10 points on us without a return, a pick six or any abundance of turnovers. (assuming we don’t get a big lead and play conservative and let them drive down and score meaningless points) So that means Manning only has to find the end zone once, get within field goal range twice, and protect the ball and we win the game. If you think the jets can hold the colts under 13 points your crazy. The way I see it, the only way we lose is if you win the turnover differential by at least 2. (3+ and I’ll really be worried)
18-2-87-4-6... stop me if you've heard this before.
by Marvelous Manning on Jan 22, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'll have to watch the BAL/INDY game again
but I remember being unimpressed with the Raven’s execution. Colt D looked good but not worrysome.
"unimpressed with the Raven's execution"
well there’s something I think many of us can agree on, lol
How can you not love a team that does this?
"unimpressed with the Raven's execution"
How many first downs did the Jets have in the first half against the Chargers?
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 22, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
enough to win
How many points did the chargers score for 3 quarters? 0.
A lot of people would say they have a better offense than indy.
It’s time to start entertaining the possibility that the colts can lose on Sunday.
Of course it is possible
It’s possible the world’s gonna end in 2012. You wouldn’t be Mayan, now would you?
oh and the only time we get eaten up on D
is when we play zone. That’s why SD marched downfield with 1:06 left. Rex actually apologized to the fans for letting up at the end, but they thought it was the right decision. It will be close on Sunday.
Blitzing isn't the answer...
Peyton can beat the blitz better than any QB in the league. If you watch the tape, when teams blitz him, he gets big plays more often than he gets rattled.
18-2-87-4-6... stop me if you've heard this before.
by Marvelous Manning on Jan 22, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions
Philip Rivers has the same rep
As does Tom Brady and Drew Brees. None of them had time to go downfield, and when they tried, they got picked. Peyton can check down all day for all I care. We blitz something like 70% of the time and check our opponents passer ratings against our D. Impressive numbers.
Peyton Manning is better
than all those QBs. He accepts the blitz, catches the blitz, and beats the blitz. Blitz all you damn want but Peyton Manning, while prove YET AGAIN, why blitzing him doesn’t phase him.
Because he is impervious
to all defense. which is why he throws for 500 yards and 6 td’s every game, right?
Manning's passer rating
In Week 16, Manning’s rating was 95.73 – not too bad considering how great your defense is.
Honestly, if the Jets blitz 70% of the time, it either means that the Colts are already leading by 2+ scores or the Colts are about to be leading by 2+ scores.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
by AceOfSpades on Jan 22, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
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