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Good Journalism: Boston-based WEEI admits Peyton is the best

Nice to see some people are finally getting it. This is from WEEI's Kirk Minihane:

But Brady has the best single season of the two, right? That plus the 14-4 playoff record plus the (for the moment at least) two extra Super Bowls is enough, isn’t it?

True, Brady broke Manning’s TD pass record in 2007. He threw 50 TDs to Manning’s 49. But he needed an extra 81 passes (over two games worth) to get to 50. Manning’s TD percentage was higher (9.9 percent to 8.7 percent, which means that Manning would have finished with 57 TD passes had he attempted the same amount of attempts as Brady did in 2007), as was his passer rating (121.1 to 117.2). Both great, great seasons, but I don’t think anyone could really state with any confidence which was the better one.

Other numbers? Well, Brady has finished in the top five in passing yards, TD passes and QB rating a combined eight times in his career. In those 10 years Manning has finished in the top five a combined 22 times.

The case is closed.

Peyton Manning is the best quarterback I've ever seen.

Still hurts to write it.

It doesn't hurt as much as us hearing for years from you jokers that Peyton Manning was a goat-faced choker who couldn't win the big one. And even though it took you seven friggin' years to come around to the obvious fact that Peyton is pretty damn good, we will give you props for at least getting there.

Next up, Cold Hard Football Facts and douches like Dashiell Bennett at Deadspin will hopefully come around. If they don't, whatever. Haters gonna hate, I guess.

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Peyton smoking?!?!?!

What a BAD EXAMPLE for the children! Bad Peyton! ; )

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 25, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Its a cigar -

he’s not inhaling. heh heh heh

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 25, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)

by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, he's no role model like Brady

Who always teaches you to feed the animals.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jan 25, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice comeback.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That made me smile...

my work is almost done. lol

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 25, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Saints fan stopping by to say Congrats!

You guys played an excellent game yesterday. Manning is hands down the best QB of our era, and I look forward to seeing you all in Miami in two weeks!

If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002

by ArithMattic on Jan 25, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks and congrats to you as well.

I remember you from the MVP discussion, hopefully there’s no discussion about who is super bowl MVP. :)

by diagenesis on Jan 25, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Trolling

= ban. See CrackBack

Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do

by trOOly on Jan 25, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And that, my friend, is why they play the game!

If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002

by ArithMattic on Jan 25, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Congrats to NO, too!

I was pulling for the Saints last night because of everything you’ve been though the last few years. Drew Brees is a great QB and seems like a good person, too, the way he’s embraced New Orleans.

Though a really mischievous part of me would have enjoyed seeing Brett Far-vray get his geriatric butt handed to him by Gary Brackett and company.

by Reds_Colts1975 on Jan 25, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

That would have been a lot of fun.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Saints fans are apparently nicer than Jets brothars

Luckily it’ll be an epic confront between two top offenses. And luckily for the NFL, it has all the economic potential to become one of the most viewed and profitable games of their history. Besides this financial talking, let the best team win!

Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do

by trOOly on Jan 25, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The only fans worse than the Jets fans

are the Texans fans. They are too busy crying now to bother us.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

and congrats to you too.

by NYKings on Jan 25, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Glad to see the Saints finally get to the promised land. Too bad you will get kicked out right when you get there ;-)

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Nashville agrees (read link)

My friend in Titans country alerted me to an article in the Nashville paper this morning. It’s an article about how they also think Peyton is the best ever.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100125/COLUMNIST0202/1250324

Lucas Berridge

by Firebird on Jan 25, 2010 3:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

One more thing...

May the best team win!

If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002

by ArithMattic on Jan 25, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

alright thanks... we'll win

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by 805 on Jan 25, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're the best team on the field that day, then yes you will.

Just remember, the team with the most points at the end of the game is the winner. I know, that seems pretty obvious, but you’d be surprised how some people don’t seem to get that concept when their team loses.

If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002

by ArithMattic on Jan 25, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

annnnnnnnnd

rec’d

Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.

by JustAJ on Jan 26, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Zing!

Rec’d.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so so true

you can count many ESPN “analysts” among those people

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jan 26, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

At least Madden constantly reminded us.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if I'd call this "good journalism" simply because he admits what we already know

It means that Minihane’s accurate in his judgement of Manning. But to be “good”, you have to be more than accurate; thinking otherwise means that phone books and dictionaries are good literature. Rather, you also have to spin a good narrative, and avoid things like GRATUITOUS INSULTS:

(And yes, the odds of Peyton Manning appearing in a CSI episode sometime in the next three years is 4-to-1. The odds of Cooper Manning getting his father to love him as much as he loves his other sons is still a 250,000-to-1 shot.)

Had he recalled the cause of Cooper’s exit from football, he might not be so casually offensive. And maybe he doesn’t know; who knows? But it’s still gratuitous, and still uncalled for. So sure, I see that Minihane finally saw the light on Manning’s football ability. And I’m ready to say that he finally figured out that Manning is indeed a good quarterback; that means Minihane’s got some ability to percieve reality. On top of that, it’s good that he’s willing to recount his past mistakes, like his opinion of Leaf over Manning. So he’s moving in the right direction, and deserves to be lauded for that. But I’m not ready to grant his piece the judgement of “good journalism”. Not quite yet. Not when he feels the need to pollute his article with something uncalled-for, like the above.

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by E.M.H. on Jan 25, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

He's a JAG in the journalism world

and in the Boston sports media. He writes occasional columns for a radio station’s website. I don’t know that he’d qualify for any “journalism award” for a blog column, whether or not he writes good (and deserving) things about your team.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 25, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to know.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Good to know

BBS can still manage to get pissy even when people are saying good things about Peyton and the Colts. I was afraid that all of the giddy post-season success might go to his head and cause him to go an entire day without typing the word “douche”.

It’s comforting to have some certainties in life.

"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning

by szquirrel on Jan 25, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

lol

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

So he knows stuff then?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty soon all Peyton will have to say is KISS THE RINGS, BITCH! And that shall be a glorious day.

by KingRichard on Jan 25, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I love it.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh,

and you’ve been wrecked.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning

Will not go down as the greatest quarterback ever to play in the NFL. Is he the greatest? In my opinion he is.

He wrecks defenses without a valid running game. That’s Marino-esque. Oh, and he has a ring with the chance to snag another.

Sorry NFL Network, you’re all idiots.

by J of the F on Jan 25, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Why won't he go down

as the greatest quarterback ever?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I do.

Do I qualify as no one then?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

dont really thinks it matters

after 2006, the media was taking numbers to hop on to Peyton’s crotch. After 2007, they were all content to snuggle up to it, after 2008 he was a choker again.

If they win this year and lose next year, he’ll have trouble with 3-4 defenses played by 4-3 teams in the winter during a leap year on the 2nd weekend of the first month following a great harvest.

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by SpazMo on Jan 25, 2010 4:56 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

yep so true

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for truth.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is it just a question between Brady and Manning?

Why not Brees? He’s got some pretty good numbers.

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by Dave Cariello on Jan 25, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

Ive always just assumed

that Brady v Manning was a debate for second place. Everytime I watch Brees play, he fills me with confidence. I’ve never seen him shaky on a big stage. He can make all the throws, he’s played on the biggest stages against the toughest opponents and he’s proven his worth every time. He’s unequestionably #1, and after this year, I dont even think Brady is visible in his rear view mirror. He’s going to carve the Colts up horribly.

I’ve got a bad feeling about it.

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by SpazMo on Jan 25, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Karma

Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do

by trOOly on Jan 25, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Brees has played great when the spotlight was on him; just look at the game last night and the Cowboys game earlier in the season…That man oozes clutch.

Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!

by KMR24 on Jan 25, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

You almost had me there for a second.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 25, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding???

This guy can’t be serious!!! I love Drew Brees and what he has done for New Orleans , but you’re talking about putting him in the front of 2 of the best nfl quarterbacks in history!! Fandom has fried your brain bro. I really can’t believe anyone really thinks this is valid! Brees has had a couple of great seasons!!! Maybe if he keeps playing like he has, for 5 or 6 more years, he could be in the conversation!! Peyton is clearly THE BEST!! I’m a COLTS fan so this is hard for me to say,,,, but you can’t take anything away from Tom Brady.. And at this time, you can’t possibly say Brees is better Than Brady!!

by jd fish on Jan 26, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Your sarcasm meter

Must be broken

"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi

by gizzardfanny on Jan 26, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

We do have some really thick

sarcasm on here. Everyone’s meter is bound to break at some point.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Brady is "one of the bests"

Due to his rings. If we put them away, he’s slightly better than Brady

Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do

by trOOly on Jan 26, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yes he is about even with brady stat wise.

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a cowboy fan.

I’d take Peyton over anyone in he NFL. Not even close to me.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 26, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you smoking?

Has Manning saved a city? Brees has.

Has Manning overcome heigthism?? Brees has.

Has Manning had to work with a crappy defense and no weapons? Brees has.

Has Manning had to play in the impossibly tough NFC South his entire career? Brees half-has, and the other half, he was in the impossibly tough AFC West, i think that makes him twice as tough as Manning.

Has Manning had to overcome personal and professional tragedy and pressure to reach the top of the game? Brees has.

Has Manning proven time and again he can make all the passes under intense pressure? Brees has.

Has Manning won even won MVP award, a Super Bowl, and received countless accolades? Brees will!

Has Manning ever french kissed a goat for money? Brees.. ha, fooled you, this one was Brady.

Look, I understand that you’re a homer, but FACTS are FACTS. Brees is the best Quarterback in the game today, and when the Saints win the Super Bowl in 12 days, he will take his rightful place as best ever.

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by SpazMo on Jan 26, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd for
Has Manning ever french kissed a goat for money? Brees.. ha, fooled you, this one was Brady

Awesomeness cubed, my friend.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome.

Rec’d.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I love your tactic of

bolding everything in your comment to give everything added emphasis. Wait…..if everything is bolded, then how is any of it emphasized?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The sarcasm is strong with this one.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that Brees will enter the conversation

after this year. From my perspective, a few more years of his consistently doing what he’s done over the past few would put him in the conversation. Peyton’s been doing it for over a decade and Brady – well, I don’t want to talk about him. But I think you can see where I’m headed with that.

That said, congratulations! I’ve always like the Saints.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 25, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He hasn't been a better QB than Brady this year.

Yet I think as of RIGHT NOW, Drew Brees is 2nd to Manning and Brady is 3rd.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jan 25, 2010 7:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Brees is a distant 2nd though.

Manning is just that good.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jan 25, 2010 7:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I meant this decade not this year.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jan 25, 2010 11:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Peyton is definetly better than Brady OR Brees

look at it this way, if peyton had wes welker and randy moss he would be ripping it up every game. If Peyton had a steady running game like Brees does with Pierre Thomas, and Reggie Bush, undefeated season every year

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Jan 25, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Oh we're good with our WRs

We don’t need a player who does his job just when he wants

Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do

by trOOly on Jan 25, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Welker and Moss

Well…I’d take Welker, but I truly believe he’d be our third/slot receiver. But where would that leave Gonzo and Collie? Truthfully, I’m happier with our WR situation for next year than I ever have been, and that is including (brace yourself) the Harrison/Wayne/Stokely days.

Look at it:

Wayne – Possible future HOFer

Gonzo – Maybe should be third on the list but he has already proven himself in critical situations

Garcon – Already a dominant, physical receiver, and I don’t believe he’s at the top of his potential yet. Imagine another offseason working with Manning? Throw in his attitude and character…I fuggin’ love this guy. I wish I had a daughter his age so she could marry him.

Collie – Refer to game tape from yesterday.

Also, just want to put this thought out there —

Randy Moss can go kick rocks barefooted. I wouldn’t want him on my little league team. He’d bring the overall effort and attitude waaaay down.

by AbroadColtsFan on Jan 25, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Wes Welker is more like a slot type of guy anyway....

Garcon and Collie were definitely both good surprises, no one predicted that they would be that good, and when Gonzo went down, the Colts were supposed to be doomed…. but look what happened

P.S. Is Gonzo on the IR?

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Jan 25, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Si

Which is Spanish for ‘Yes’.

by AbroadColtsFan on Jan 25, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you undervaluing the Colts offense

As a pats fan i can say Peyton is the best but people seem to under value the work of guys like Egderrin James, Marvin Harrison(HoF) , Dallas Clark (HoF) and getting Wayne (Stud) who peyton has had most of his career. Peyton is the best qb of the era but you can;t forget he had a great supporting on offense

by lololol on Jan 26, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

thats true

but Young and Montana had great supporting casts and that doesn’t take away from them. Brady had a great supporting cast in his defense, hence the 3 Super Bowls. If anything Brees is doing the most with the least of the 3. I don’t want it to be 6-8 years from now, but when it is I think we can settle on who is the best.

Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.

by JustAJ on Jan 26, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The Saints are a pretty solid team all around...

You think Favre would be making stupid throws across the middle if the D wasn’t in his face all day? Also, the Thomas/Bush/Bell running machine is MUCH more effective (at least this year) than Addai/Brown/Hart/Simpson. He had success in SD too, but he had this guy named LT at his prime.

The saints receiving core, especially this year, are pretty damn good. Colston/Henderson/Shockey are no slouches. To say Brees has done more with less is quite silly. He’s got a great supporting cast.

by WaynesWorld on Jan 26, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he is doing more with less

Manning has/had 2 HoFs, 1 All-Pro TE, and 3 Pro-Bowl caliber receivers. Brees has 3 Pro-Bowl quality receivers. Brees is statistically a little worse than Manning with less talent. So more with less is incorrect. Similar with less is probably the right word choice.

Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.

by JustAJ on Jan 26, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd call Clark a stud

but he’s not HoF material yet.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jan 26, 2010 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He's not going anywhere though.

I think he’ll end up in the HOF too. It will be a close vote though, along with Saturday.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Wayne will be in the HOF too.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Randy Moss,

but hold on the injured Welker, and the Thomas-Bush combo. Yes, that’s just a Randy Moss. $2.50? That’s a great deal.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to hear someone admit

hopefully all the others hate can take a page from here and realize Peyton = #1 QB ever

by NYKings on Jan 25, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

thats just a wish

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Peyton is not System QB... he is de System.. Damm it

I read this yesterady, and when the writer talk about Montana and QB’s system… just refer to payton like a full system.. its fun .. just read it..!!!

by Amilcar on Jan 25, 2010 5:59 PM EST reply actions  

is this in the pats pulpit

because some of the fucking retarded fans need to read this for themselves A Pats Fan Agrees That Peyton Is The Best, maybe after they read that they’ll become normal like the other good pats fans, like marima, and matthew (even tho matthew is gay or something like that-I STILL HAVE NIGHTMARES!!!! MATT…..I STILL HAVE NIGHTMARES!!!!
jk Matt

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by 805 on Jan 25, 2010 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

Check out Michael Lombardi's article on Peyton on NFL.com

It’s great. He’s one of the few people on NFL.com who actually knows something about football.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jan 25, 2010 8:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Which is kind of ironic

if you think about it.

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by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it has.

You will fall down onto your ceiling.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton is the greatest quarterback of all time.

I can’t deny that. No one but Michael Irvin would dare argue with that assessment, because he’s clinically retarded.

That being said, I don’t think anyone will break the record Drew set this year in terms of % for completed passes. He’s easily the 2nd best quarterback in the game today. No one else comes close.

Drew can and will be a HOFer in my book when he retires, with numbers slightly below those of Peyton.

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by J of the F on Jan 25, 2010 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

Eh, if Brees have can play at a high level

for at least another 5 years and get his team to the playoffs more often then he has a chance.

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by KMR24 on Jan 26, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not really sure about it

Maybe Brees with some of his spectacular games will, for sure, guarantee his place among the Hall of Fame, considering his link with the rebuilding of NO and etc. But including him in a conversation about the best QB of all time is something very awkward right now. He had great seasons during the past years, has some numbers that are even better than Brady’s (who will certaintly get into the Hall of Fame, but for me he’s not a worthy player to be included on one of those “best QB of all time” talk considering his statistics), but a ring is a ring.

If you don’t break many records like Dan Marino did, you won’t be a contender to the “best QB of all time”.

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by trOOly on Jan 26, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

That's Right.

Marino is still the best QB to never win the championship! And Brees is great but he certainly doesn’t belong in the best ever conversation!! Not yet atleast !

by jd fish on Jan 26, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I think your bold key is broken.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

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by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he is the 2nd best QB in the NFL

But he won’t come close to Manning’s numbers. No one will. He’ll be in the HoF someday but somehow I doubt he’ll be first ballot. He’s a great player yet I don’t think he’s an All-Time Great. That completion % record can be broken and probably will be in the next 5 years. Not trying to take anything away from Brees but that record will be broken.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jan 26, 2010 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

career wise he is not much better than brees though i think he has the potential

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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I Heard This Guy on WEEI

last week and this is exactly what he said. Not only does Peyton (allegedly) have the face of a goat, he is the G.O.A.T. Everybody who’s honest with themselves knows this and his legacy continues to grow. It was a pleasure to watch this game on Tivo again and see the Colts wreak havoc against an excellent defensive team. Peyton is the best and a class act. In fact, Drew Brees is a class act as well, so either way we’re guaranteed to have a classy champion. No scumbags like Favre or Tom Lady as Ravens fans are wont to call him. I’ll check in later. Good luck to the Colts at South Florida!

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by the new Bradfather on Jan 26, 2010 3:15 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks.

But face of a goat? That’s one I haven’t heard before.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

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by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

what the heck lol

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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that's just wrong.

WRONG! I tell you.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

How are you holding up PTB?

Can’t concentrate at work? Jittery during the day? Trouble sleeping at night? Watching too many sports-shows and listening to every single talking head praise or diss your Peyton? What a crazy two weeks, lol. Enjoy it my friend. : )

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 26, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

Thanks! Its different than the first time. I couldn’t focus on anything the first time. I’m excited as hell, but able to focus a little bit. Actually all last week I couldn’t sleep because of the AFCCG. Now I’m sleeping like a baby. At least until next week, I’m sure.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

It is very different from the first time

The first time was so amazing, from the way the game ended in the AFCCG all the way to the SB, you kinda just knew it was Peyton’s time and the Colts time but the nerves for me were at an all time high. This time things are different. I still feel we have a good shot at winning the game but I’m not as anxious or nervous but I’m sure once next week starts the anticipation will start kicking in and it’ll kill me lol

by NYKings on Jan 26, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jan 26, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Hope he does and then I'm going to put it slo mo hd and send it to you.

(If I had the skillz or the time or … well we know it’s not going to happen so I’m exiting this sentence.)

by diagenesis on Jan 26, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, that's okay

It’s the thought that counts : )

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 26, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna say that next Christmas!

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there any muscle there?

I don’t see any.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I'm watching BSPN news last night after work...

I heard Tom Jackson (one of the few guys at ESPN I actually like) say that Peyton is the best to ever play the position of QB. I started tearing up. More and more people are admiting it. It’s about friggin’ time.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I Rec You

Because all of we Broncos fans LOVE Tommy for what he’s done and he is one of the few respectable analysts on ESPN. BSPN is hilarious and of course Peyton, like Johnny in the Devil Went Down To Georgia, is the best there’s ever been.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Jan 26, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

He seems like one of the very FEW

unbiased analysts out there. Thanks for the rec.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

take a gander Warren Sapp's way

gotta give him props. Intelligent and objective, about the only thing NFLN has going for it.

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by JustAJ on Jan 26, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I like him too.

Jaws is good when he’s talking tape also.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta agree with you

Not a fan of too many ESPN guys but I love Tom Jackson, he really just puts it out there and tells it like it is.

by NYKings on Jan 26, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Tom Jackson a lot.

Too bad he’s shouted down by Chris Berman (who I only like during highlight shows) most of the time.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice line.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

OH YEAH!!!

 Respect of your enemies is the only true way to gauge success

by jd fish on Jan 26, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Skip has a very short memory.

Here’s my general playbook for Skip:
Huge Vanderbilt and Cowboys fan (don’t let the T.O. hate fool you).
Being a Vandy homer, he hates anything involving Tennesee (including it’s former QBs) and pushes anything Vandy (see: Jay Cutler vs. any other QB in his draft class).
Huge NBA fan, probably one of the few things he really knows well. I always give him some attention when he says something about that league.
On the other side, like alot of NBA fans, he dismisses college b-ball as some sort of inferior product. I never listen to his college b-ball opinions.
Here, that’s most of the things I think I “know” about Bayless.

by vintagephoenix on Jan 26, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I love CBB.

Don’t know how anybody can claim it as an inferior product to the NBA.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Classic, isn’t it?

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

that it is

GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 26, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

in his defense

he’s always been really high on Peyton in the regular season. Now that Peyton is proving this retarded notion of, its him and not necessarily the team that is underperforming, Skip is coming around.

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by JustAJ on Jan 26, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Peyton is the best I've ever seen yet.

But he is for sure the best in the NFL right now. By the time he retires he may be the best ever.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 26, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

who???

Elway, Marino, Jim kelly, Steve Young , Bradshaw , Troy aikman ? I can’t seem to think of one! Tom Brady??? I think he would be the closest after Joe Montana , But I think Peyton Still wins!!

by jd fish on Jan 26, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If Peyton wins a few more SBs

I think he could go down as the best ever. I do think Peyton has carried the team on his back more because he never had the great teams behind him like a Montana , Aikman and even Brady. If Peyton had been on the 49s of the 80s or Cowboys of the 90s he might have a ring for every finger and one for the thumb.

by DIRE WOLF on Jan 26, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

I can’t wait for Peyton to win the SB this year and everyone to say yeah but he only has 2 SB rings. Win 8 more and then maybe we can have the discussion of greatest ever.

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by JustAJ on Jan 26, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

No kidding. It’ll happen, too.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jan 26, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Winning SB's is a team accomplishment,

not an individual one. I will always maintain that even when Peyton wins 4 more SB’s (Hey, I can dream, can’t I?).

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Could Be!

 I would concede if you could tell me who you have ever seen thats better!! I was a firm believer before peyton, that Joe Montana was probably The best I ever saw! But I have to say that Peyton, in my opinion, is the better of the two

by jd fish on Jan 26, 2010 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

The reply button is your friend.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton a legend in our time.

I usually don’t go in for big superlatives. I like to wait for the QB career to be over (no repeated comebacks) and judge a QB then. I have to say though, that I will probably never see another Peyton Manning in my lifetime. I’m 61 and in reasonably good health, to that’s a pretty strong statement. I just hope he can make it through to retirement without wrecking his health for later in life. He is going to be our legend, the way Marino was Miami’s, Aikman in Dallas and Elway in Denver. It feels pretty damn good to have someone like that representing us in Indy.

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by edictben1 on Jan 26, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Man.

I wish I was somewhere I could actually listen to it.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: This is how the Mario games should have ended.

by Cassieper on Jan 27, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

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