Jim Caldwell loses USA Today Coach of the Year award because of Jets game [UPDATED]
by Brad Wells on Jan 7, 2010 11:48 PM EST
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PrintNote: I realize this is not "the" Coach of the Year award awarded by Associated Press. However, based on what we discuss in the article, it is pretty clear that Jim Caldwell will not win that award either for the same reasons he did not win this award. Lots of media sources award "Coach of the Year" honors, from USA Today to AP to Sporting News. All are fairly consistent, and if Caldwell is coming in third in a USA Today tally, and only get two votes in a fan bloggers tally... yeah, he will not win AP Coach of the Year, and the reason will be the Jets game. --bbs
The 2009 USA Today Coach of the Year is the Chargers Norv Turner and not Colts head coach Jim Caldwell. Why did Caldwell not win the award despite setting an NFL record by starting 14-0 as a rookie head coach, securing the #1 seed in the AFC, and leading the Colts to their 23rd straight regular season victory (also an NFL record)?
Simple. He quit during the Jets game in Week Sixteen. From USA Today, which sponsors the award:
Caldwell, the third-place finisher, seemed to be cruising to the award when his Colts became just the third team to start a season 14-0. But the controversy surrounding the Colts lifting their starters in the two losses helped douse his candidacy.
Say whatever you want about the reasons why or why not to sit the starters against the Jets. The fact is the move was booed by fans at home. Voters saw that reaction, shared that reaction, and awarded CotY to a man (Turner) who many felt prior to this season had underachieved at his job coaching one of the most talented teams in the league.
As the article states, Caldwell was cruising towards winning this award, which is indeed an honor along with the AP CotY award. You don't scoff at CotY honors. Sitting Peyton Manning and the rest of the starters in the third quarter against the Jets cost him that award. Now, it remains to be seen if Caldwell's (and, by extension, Polian's) strategy of rest will pay off. If Caldwell loses early in the playoffs, or if he loses to the Chargers in post-season play (as his friend Tony Dungy did two times in a row), Caldwell's decision to rest starters will indeed go down as one of the all-time gaffs in NFL coaching history. Caldwell and Polian's theory that "momentum is overrated" would be forever dashed and dismissed. The Chargers have won 11 in a row entering post-season play. The Colts have lost two straight, and rested starters in both games. If they win and the Colts lose? Yeah, Caldwell and Polian would look like schmucks.
Again, you're sick of hearing about this, I know. But, Caldwell losing this award (which, prior to the Jets game, he very much deserved) just reinforces the sad, sorry, embarrassing fact that Jim Caldwell quit on a meaningful football game. There's no way someone like me can get angry or make a reasonable argument for Caldwell over Turner.
Caldwell quit. Turner didn't.
And while I am fully aware that the Chargers rested starters in Week Seventeen, that is very different from resting starters in Week Sixteen when you are winning. The Chargers also were not going for a 16-0 "perfect" regular season like the Colts were. Many people felt that 16-0 was important. Polian likes to debate whether or not it was "meaningful" (Hint: When the fans, media, and the players tell you it is, debate on the subject pretty much ends there). However, the powers that determine the CotY honors say it was. And it is not just stuffy, over-paid hack sportswriters and TV talking heads (aka, the people who vote for awards like this) who think this.
In our 2009 NFL Regular Season Studs and Duds, which is voted on by fan bloggers, Jim Caldwell received only two votes for coach of the year. One was from me.
I hope Caldwell is able to carry a Super Bowl trophy home this year as opposed to a CotY award. It would really validate his method, and it would help vindicate his decision. But, right now, it is very hard to defend a coach who quits on a meaningful game. That's why I am not against someone other than Caldwell winning this award.
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Enough already
I get it. We get it. It was a horrible decision. One that most Colts fans absolutely hated.
But let’s get the ball rolling here. Let’s move on. We have a Super Bowl to win.
by Levante on Jan 7, 2010 11:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh, in my rant below I forgot a few things
One could look at this as Caldwell taking one for the team—sacrificing the COTY award to rest players and win the SB, but you know what… he cares about this far less than fans do.
To go one further, whereas some of us would like to win the Lombardi and then go to the COTY voters and cram it up their nether orifices with an “I told you so, jerk-wads!” that’s the last thing Caldwell would ever dream of.
Damn nice guys….
Anchors aweigh on the Good Ship Lombardi!
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
That is, pardon my French, effing stupid reasoning by voters
Just flat-out dumb shit thinking.
What were expectations coming in? Many did not pick us for the playoffs, needless to say 14-0. Rookie HC? New DC and ST coach? Injury-riddled team? 14 consecutive wins—the only losses were “conserve the team” losses—when SD lost, they were actually TRYING to win.
Okay, back to expectations… who was second? I hope Lewis in Cinn, turning one of the worst teams into a (late-stumbling) playoff div winner is a pretty huge jump. Fatty McMeany in NY did a great job turning around the Jets as well. And even Schoolboy McDaniels in Denver far exceeded expectations, although if they started 0-6 and finished with 6 straight he’d have a better chance.
So it’s not about context (as always) and how you lose, it’s about when you do it…?
I hate the living.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Jan 7, 2010 11:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Here's the voting breakdown Bobman,
via ANGELSFAITH:
Norv Turner, San Diego: 23 points (five first-place votes)
Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati: 20 points, (four first-place votes)
Jim Caldwell, Indianapolis: 11 points
Sean Payton, New Orleans: 6 points (one first-place vote)
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay: 3 points (one first-place vote)
Rex Ryan, New York Jets: 2 points
Josh McDaniels, Denver: 1 point
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Huh ?
Rex Ryan, New York Jets: 2 points
Josh McDaniels, Denver: 1 point
Help me out with this one:
Ok, so did three voters come from an alternate dimension where the Jets and Broncos didn’t abject suck this year? Were three voters threatened? Or did three voters not know how to fill in the scantron form? Did three voters eat toxic mushrooms?
I'll take toxic mushrooms
for $800.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
have you not seen a Norv Turner coached game?
couldnt out coach him w/Walsh, Lombardi, and God on the sidelines…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
my dream scenario...
Urban Meyer, Head Coach
Brett Favre, QB Coach
Tim Tebow, Mesiah/Starting QB
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
He is truly awful.
Just think how good San Diego would be with a competent coach.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
i see your hypothetical and raise you a what if
the Chargers had to play in the AFC South or East, or something that didnt have the Raiders, Broncos, and Chiefs…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Interesting thought.
I honestly have no clue how they would do. 10-6 to 12-4, maybe?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
I'm sure they would still win the division
But their 6 divisional games are akin to the first 2 games UF schedules each year. And whereas the Jaguars suck, they are able to take their cialis before each Colts game, the Raiders, on the other hand, cant get their depends changed before they shit the bed.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Nice metaphor.
Fits pretty well.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Playoffs!?!?!?! Don’t talk about playoffs!!!!!!
As long as we have Peyton we will always have a chance to win.
wow that is sad i do not see where norv did better im sorry just isn't there
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
You grab a pitchfork and I'll get some burning torches
we’ll find out where those voters live and… wait, I might want to save my torches in case 18 does not win MVP…. I’ll get back to you with my outrage.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
We'll find out on Saturday.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Great, I'll be skiing all day
We’ll race home from the mountains, my kids tearing the car to shreds from over-stimulation, my wife exhausted from a day of teaching, and all I can think of is “must get to TV, must get to TV….”
Oooh, wait, the kids are in lessons, the wife is teaching…. I don’t really have to ski. I can hang out in the clubhouse with a beer….. no, no good, If 18 loses then she’ll ask me why I am weeping on the drive home and I’ll have to fess up.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
I live near Seattle, so it's at our "neighborhood" ski area 45 minutes east
Snoqualmie Pass. My wife has skied there for 30+ years and one of her friend’s grandfathers started the business with WWII surplus machinery pulling the chair lifts. I agreed to the Saturday teaching/lessons so I would have Sundays free…. at least we’ll be home before game time next week.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
That's a lot different then. Have fun!
I hope to have an illness that hits me just when the games are.
Are you going to watch the wildcard games
on Saturday?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
my youngest's
2nd bday is saturday… EVERYONE OUT OF THE HOUSE BY 4:59pm
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
sexiest man alive?
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
hey buddy, that is MY award.
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 8, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
You're no man!
You’re a cybernetic blogger sent from the future to electonically please all the ladies out there…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
A virtual Shaft for the 21st Century?
Hope he has his own theme song.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
i didnt want to go there,
im already afraid i ran dia off…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
go back to jamiaca
im tired of having to take cold showers every time you log on!!111ononeoenoen
Lets talk about the Jets game, that’ll piss me off
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
just kidding, Dia
I dont need a cold shower, you dont need to leave the country.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
im gonna have to agree with Marked Hoosier
you’re only allowed to vote on stampedeblue members…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I don't see this as continuing the 'quitting' conversation, btw
or atleast not rehashing it. This is news worthy, and shows that in atleast one case, the media is willing to “punish” the Colts for the past two weeks. This matters, imo, since Polian said that awards, HoF, etc… and those ARE voted on by the media. I’m sure Philip Rivers will be voted MVP, as well…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
agree it isn't continuing it at all
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
lol
I had to read your sig 3 times to understand what it meant. Ahhh…the irony…
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
here were the complete results
Norv Turner, San Diego: 23 points (five first-place votes)
Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati: 20 points, (four first-place votes)
Jim Caldwell, Indianapolis: 11 points
Sean Payton, New Orleans: 6 points (one first-place vote)
Mike McCarthy, Green Bay: 3 points (one first-place vote)
Rex Ryan, New York Jets: 2 points
Josh McDaniels, Denver: 1 point
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
Two weeks ago, Rick Gosselin wrote this article about COTY
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/122709dnspogosselincol.2d586b3.html
In it he mentions every candidate BUT Norvie. Either he’s slipping, or, he just whiffed. he’s a pretty astute NFL observer, usually. (of course many of the guys he named lost tons in the final two weeks: Caldwell, Payton, Del Rio…)
Well, at least Marv Lewis was second…. I guess.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Marvin Lewis pulled starters with the 3 seed on the line
actual seeding. The possibility of hosting the AFC CG if they got there and the Colts got upset.
but he very nearly won the award.
If you aren’t giving a vote to a coach who pulled starters with something meaningful on the line then you don’t vote for Marvin Lewis either. Just Stupid.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Hmmm, I overlooked that
Which now just pisses me off even more. Thanks, Shake.
Damn west coast bias!
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
yes it is stupid. i can see lewis in the convo, but turner makes no sense at all to me
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
but Marvin Lewis didn’t shun the media. He didn’t deny them the chance to write 100000s articles about the 16-0 Colts’ path to perfection. He denied them the chance to write about how the 16-1 colts were the ultimate chokers. And for all of that, he is punished.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I know it's just the media being pissy with Caldwell
not the principles of the thing, the Lewis votes prove it, but they won’t admit that. They’ll talk out their ass about the integrity of the game while voting for a guy that pulled starters with actual seeding on the line.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Jan 8, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
What the hell??
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
This one goes to eleven
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
by Bobman on Jan 8, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
Opportunities to work in the lines “lick my love pump” or “kick my ass. I’m not asking you, I’m telling you—KICK MY ASS” are few and far between.
“Don’t worry, Boston’s not a big college town” and “Let’s rock and roll, Cleveland!” might be easier.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
I'm not pissed that Caldwell didn't get the award
However I’m pissed that fact that Lewis basically turned the Bengals around and ability to get his boys together after two tragedies in the same year deserved the award. Norv’s has done the same shit he’s done during tenure in San Diego, but the media can’t stop fellating(sp) the Chargers by being the hottest team entering the playoffs and other bullshit…ugh!!!
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
The timing aspect is weird
If after 15 weeks, Norv is about 6th/7th on the depth chart, what kind of cataclysmic events have to unfold to make him deserving after week 17?
Colts give up two—not lose them, but donate them to future health. check.
Saints go 1-1. check
Bengals go 1-1. check
These are world-changing, earth shaking, biblical-proportion events? Whereas Norv took a division winner without great changes and… won a division full of pathetic teams, that were expected to suck and did. He was expected to win the div. Congrats, norv, you did what was expected and you get an award.
I am getting so effing pissed just thinking about it. I may write a Sporcle.com quiz entitled “the biggest dumbshit things I have ever heard” and this will be the top-three.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
dont act like you dont know how to spell fellating... (correct, btw)
and yes.. people seem to forget that this team went 14-2 before Norv was fired. Its not like he’s reinventing the wheel.
Colts were picked to miss the playoffs by most media experts and went 14-2*
The Chargers were picked to win the Super Bowl this year and went 13-3…
Coach of the year, living up to expectations 1 underwhelming year at a time.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
by SpazMo on Jan 8, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Exactly
recced, BTW
And I can just picture Norv, during the act, postulating… “you might not know this, but fellating is spelled f-e-l-l-a-t-i-n-OH MY GOD!-g….”
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
thanks for giving me the mental image of
Norv having an orgasm… kinda like the Lumberg dream-sex sequence… Now everytime I see the Chargers I’m going to imagine Norv saying, “Now, uh, Im gonna need you to move a little, uh, to the left… thattsss right.”
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Excellent.
Rec’d.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
the crowd is going somewhere!
I gotta go too, REC!
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 8, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
So the third team in football history doesn't have a Coach of the Year...
well then the award is just silly. Should have given it to Zorn.
Go Colts!
3rd team to go 14-0...
angry typing is angry
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 8, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Surprising how pissed the media is at us, huh?
Either that or they really do think it’s all Peyton. In that case, I hope they’re not hypocrites and take away his sexiest man that is the most valuable player in the entire history of sports award.
Philip Rivers wins it
and I would rather Peyton have 0 than 3, because the award is meaningless
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
shrug
i always call his name out when im having sex
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
just remindin myself
of what a real man is like… imo.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
So does my wife?!?!
Actually, if you recall the great DJ Gallo “genuflect” piece he did about Tom Brady a few years ago, one of this resolutions was to apologize to his wife in bed for NOT being Tom Brady.
Thinking the whole damn thing was so funny, I actually apologized to my wife for not being Brady, um… “after.” Having no idea who Brady was, the joke was lost on her. So about a half hour of explaining and laughing later she finally got it.
…and i wonder why she hates football….
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
haha
thats amazing :D
In a related story, is tom brady actually good looking? I dont think so. Can we make this a poll? I wouldnt have sex with him if I were gay. And Im pretty loose.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
LMFAO
you’re nowhere near his league, buddy
(concept stolen from a Friends episode—the “Is Chandler Gay” one)
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
i remember that one
but i forget which guy he said he had a shot with…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I don't recall--it's been a decade or so,
but some good looking gay guy in his office—pick a name… Brad maybe. I don’t think he appeared for more than a second at the end when Chandler, in the coffee room, was muttering “not in his league…not in his league…. I could get Brad if I wanted him” then Brad walks by “Oh, Hi, Brad!”
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
oooh yea, you're right
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Funny story
ESPN was on the t.v. and it was a press conference with Brady my mom asked me, “Who does he play for” and I said, “the Patriots” then she said, “Oh, he’s ugly!”. true story :-)
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
but do YOU
think hes good looking?
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
whats that from?? its great...
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I honestly thought he lost it because people realized that he inherited an already coached team and really didn’t have to coach in the first place.
I don’t have a problem with pulling people. I actually think it’s a good move.
Do you remember all the off-season brouhaha
replacing the D coordinator and ST coach? Then the “retirement” of Mudd and Moore? People were saying the sky was falling. And they forgot all that doomsday talk pretty fast.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Technically, he caused that because he became coach. Which should hurt him even more.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
But it turned out to the the right thing to do
The team improved!
So he should get credit, no?
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
What?
That was caused by a pension change. It had nothing to do with Caldwell becoming coach. Where are you getting your info from, PFT?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
If I recall SC. And I thought his coaching change had something to do with the pension change.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
pension thing was league wide
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Jan 8, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Oh well it only adversely affected the Colts so maybe I attributed it to Caldwell.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
The pensions only affected
Moore and Mudd. The DC and ST Coach were because Caldwell wasn’t gonna rehire them.
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Hm. I just personally think he didn’t deserve to go as high as he was. I mean all his rookie coaching stats are inflated more than any others. You don’t think that is attributed to an already good system? Same reason Mike Tomlin won the SB his second year. The system was already in place.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
You can have a good system
and fuck it up…you can buy a brand new Ferrari and not know how to drive a stick and fuck up the transmission. Not the best analogy, but you get the pont
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Eh. True. But he was also already mentored under the Dunge himself.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Still...
he WASN’T Dungy. He has dealt with key injuries on both side of the ball and over come some adversity and made things work. He is the CotY
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
That mustache is some adversity alright…
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
true but no matter if he was it was his first time leading a team. turner has had that team for years
and what he did this year is no different than any of those other years. nothing he did stands out as new to him.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
Rivers finally came out of his shell. Which I think is some damn good QB mentoring. He was able to use an old, sucky back in LT and was still able to keep him happy.
He ran a good defense with Merriman. Now that deserves some credit in itself.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
but isn't the QB mentoring the QB coach?? and rivers never was in a shell unless you mean production or someting lol
he sure never had an issue voicing himself lol
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, I meant production – wise. The kid does need to learn to shut his mouth though.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
i agree with the shut his mouth
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
i dont care the system is you come into it is still hard to coach a team to 14-0. maybe it is easier with the system in place but not easy
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Personally, I think Manning should have been nominated for coach of the year…
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
haha as long as he gets MVP people will get over this but if he doesn't well ....
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(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
It’s the INTs that get me for his nomination of that award personally.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Huh?
I’m not sure what you’re talking about now.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
farve and his interceptions being the reason he would be nominated for the MVP
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
(look i don't need to explain myself to all of you as i have with many here. if you absolutely can not understand what i am saying that is one thing but this is a blog and it isn't going to be perfect every time especially when your typing a comment fast so realize that and also that none of you are perfect either in this category)
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's saying
that Mannings INT’s will hinder him from getting the award
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
This. Toward the end he was aiming for the other team.
Heh.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
A lot of Mannings INT's
can be attributed to his receivers. Unfortunately, Clark being the one that comes to mind
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Yep, And this is why WRs need an INT stat themselves. But people who vote mainly only read stats, not game film.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
a lot of times they dont watch the majority of games, they watch those they
are connected to. and yes manning had many of his picks that were tips of of receivers hands and then intercepted also.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
yea i dont think he is deserving at all ( i think brees is more deserving than Farve).
and Manning has done a lot more this year for his team than anyone else and i think that was shown even more the last two weeks
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
hard to imagine how
a guy working with a rookie and a 2nd year D3 WR and Charlie Johnson at LT would have higher than normal INTs.
Email Paul Kuharksy, an inordinate amount of Manning’s INTs were tipped passes, which sort of skews the stat (tipped passes being intercepted is random, i think)
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WR need an INT stat themselves but until then they are still considered Manning’s fault. And idiots vote for these awards bub.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
I dont think you know me well enough to call me Bub
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I'm not your
bub, friend
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Great, great movie segment. I need to re – watch that.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
I think a couple other coaches made noise
but Moore and Mudd were the ones the took it the most seriously, probably because they are two of the oldest, so closest to retirement with the largest pension funds.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Jan 8, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
ugh...
no Gonzo, no Bobzilla, rookie cornerbacks, new Defensive coordinator.
Turner has the same thing he had last year.
Fuck those voters
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 8, 2010 12:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
^this
That is a hell of a job by caldwell that no other coach can replicate. He should have won it
by metal_militia on Jan 8, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Well you didn’t lose much with Garcon and your defense tanked didn’t it?
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
division 3 product
with another rookie. Manning helped alot, but chalk some of that up to coaching. Also, give caldwell credit for firing Purnell and Meeks and replacing them with Coyer and Rychleskie. That is a HUGE coaching move and a great one at that
by metal_militia on Jan 8, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Garcon is also easily the greatest D3 product ever. I know, I watched him at MUC.
by SpecialBrownie on Jan 8, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
actually, it didn't
The last 3 games are stupid to count since we started pulling most of our defensive starters or playing them on an extremely limited basis from the moment we locked up first seed. Prior to that, it was something like 2nd or 3rd in points allowed and one of the best red zone defenses, which I think are pretty much the most important stats for the defense. Also, I think it’s STILL number one or something in fewest plays of over 20 yards.
by flores salicis on Jan 8, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Dumb voters are dumb...
Hoodie Jr, aka Boy Blunder, got a vote. THE GUY WHO BLEW A 6-0 START TO NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS GOT A VOTE.
I am glad Caldwell didn’t get it.
Go Colts!
*bangs head against wall*
they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway, they would have thrown the last game and an undefeated season away anyway.
Apparently you still havent gotten this through you skull BBS. The fans (well maybe not the majority of us) and the MSM, would have been even more critical had the Colts been 15-0. They wouldnt have given two shits about the weather. Why? because they would have been one game away against one of the worst teams in the NFL. The Colts would be killed to no end if they were 15-0 rather than 14-0.
and when I mean the majority of us
I mean the Stampede Blue community. Im sure alot of people in indy would still have been as angry if not more than they were two weeks ago.
by metal_militia on Jan 8, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
come on, metal
even if you hate what BBS thinks about the last two weeks, even if you disagree with 100% of the things he’s said about Caldwell, Polian, and the Colts, how can you disagree that the MSM’s thinking is 100% counter yours? I’m not saying they are right (their thinking is flawed), but thats what they think, and you shouldnt hate BBS for that. The Media is making a statement, Caldwell got ZERO first place votes, while Sean Payton, who’s team went 0-3 down the stretch while TRYING TO WIN, got 1.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
by SpazMo on Jan 8, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Point made
rec’d
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
and i want to state clearly
i’ve made my position on the jets game clear, but im not even talking about it anymore. Its over and done with, fine. And I’m definitely not trying to say hahah told you so. I disagree with the MSM 100% because their reasoning and logic is flawed. Caldwell should have won the COTY BECAUSE his team was IN the position to make that choice. Either that, or give Peyton every MVP and OPotY award until he retires. You cant have it both ways. Peyton is either far and away the greatest player ever and carried this team to 14-0, or Caldwell deserves his due. The media makes the rules up as they go and tries to play both sides against the middle. Their feelings at this point have completely pissed me off passed the point I was mad at the Colts organization.
And none of this is even discussing the fact that this was Polians decision, not Caldwell’s.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
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by SpazMo on Jan 8, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
You nailed it.
Here’s another rec.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
you're agreeing with me too much
Let, me, trie, sumthin. here. is there,, okay??!
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
shame...
would have been a perfect comment if you didn’t use the proper “you’re.”
no rec, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 8, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
your write, sorrie
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
wow, it is like reading Big Blue Shoe now!
HA!
Go Colts!
by Marked Hoosier on Jan 8, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
BBS could never learn
the difference between write and right.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
There you go.
Now I hate you again.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
good... goooood
feel it floowwwing through your body… yes… give in to your anger.. Only then will you be able to destroy me…
it is.. your… dessssstiny…
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Crap.
I don’t remember the next line in that Star Wars scene.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Yes, Luke, a sister
Remember, the Sister that french kissed you in the last movie? Yes, her… Give in to your incestual feelings, throw yourself on your father, only then will you take your rightful place at my side, pool boy…
NO! NO!!! THATS .. THATS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Search your feelings, you know it to be true….
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
just so we're clear
yes, im that guy.. the one that always takes the joke ONE step too far and leaves all of his friends staring at him like he was just bit in the crotch by a disease infested monkey.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I KNOW
that we’re are NOT making fun of star wars right now. do we really wanna go that route? really
lets not.
As long as we have Peyton we will always have a chance to win.
i ... i... i wasnt making fun of star wars, sir
i was just try’n’ to be funny.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
There's a blonde
in school. She is writing the word “tomorrow”, the teacher notices that she has written it “Tommorrow”, the teacher says to the blonde, “i notice you’re writing the word tomorrow, but you have an extra M, you need to take one out”
The blonde replies, “which one?”
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
nice, like it
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
oh no your blond?? lol
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
Got a mild chuckle.
I’ll give it a 4/10.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Not sure what you mean when you are talking with about the media
You do realize that they are saying essentially the same thing BBS is saying. In fact, BBS is using what the MSM is writing to support his stance.
Look im not trying to sway opinions here, im just want everyone to get over it. Im not saying BBS wants this team to fail, but reading between the lines, its as if there is an indirect connotation that he wants Caldwell and Polian to fail to stake his claim. Thats probably the sleep talking and im over analyzing, but god, it seems like every time Caldwell or Polians name is mentioned, it always comes back to “The Decision”.
While we may never known what would have happened had the Colts been 15-0, given the conditions, the Colts would have no doubt rested. To me, the fan reaction would be, “how could you give up perfection, with one game to go, and against such a crappy team we know you can beat.” This would fuel the “soft” label the MSM has labeled the Colts with and would have brought more fuel to the fire of not going for perfection given they only needed one game.
Im not saying I would have been a guy totally complaining about ti and taking what the media says for granted, Im simply stating that winning the Jets game would have ment nothing and there would be more pressure from fans and the media to pursue it. It was a no win situation no matter what Caldwell did. Ill stop talking about this subject now
by metal_militia on Jan 8, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
i guess i was taking the liberty
in assuming that this article wasnt an attempt to say he was right, but to say that there will be/are consequences, real ones, for the Colts, because of the past 2 weeks.
Shrug.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Again with this crap?
If previous pieces by BBS on Bob Sanders and Donald Brown are any clue, he seems to feel that players owe it to him not to get injured. So his belief system may not allow for the thought that an opportunity to win a Super Bowl might, through injury, be diminished by pursuing regular season victories that do nothing to enhance the opportunity to win a Super Bowl.
As far as this award goes, I’ve never heard that Caldwell was the favourite, so I’m not shocked. I’m not sure what to make of the attribution of this alleged slight to the Jets game. There has been too much cherry-picking of facts over this issue. Besides, people have a natural gift for linking disagreeable outcomes to preceding circumstances they find objectionable, whether or not there is an actual cause and effect relationship.
But if were true, and the same thing happened to Peyton, then the voters, in pursuit of a purpose they found more important (making some sort petulant point) would have shrunk from their duty to select the best man and turned their backs on NFL history: the awarding an historic 4th MVP.
oh god
a chance to talk about Sanders + health is a skill for 3 hours…
SOMEBODY HOLD ME BACK!!!
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Unleash the Rage!!!
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
This article points to him as the clear favorite two weeks ago
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/122709dnspogosselincol.2d586b3.html
and never even mentions Norv.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Even so
If they weren’t going to take unnecessary risks in pursuit of “perfection” it’s hard to imagine they would have taken the same risks to protect Coach of the Year honours.
Ahh, Herm Edwards
definitely one guy with skills comparable to Norv. Good call.
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Coach Doesn't Care about CotY
I think Coach Caldwell cares as much about winning the CotY Award as he does about going 16-0. As he would say, “That’s not one of my goals.” He will feel fully validated if he can lead the team to a SB victory, That’s the only goal he has left to achieve this year.
yes i do agree with that but doesn't mean he didn't deserve the award
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Caldwell IS Deserving
Sure, he deserves it, but I rarely see the one I think is most deserving get that recognition.
Did Dungy EVER get it?
Sometimes, it seems like a ‘consolation prize’ for a coach who does relatively great in difficult circumstances, but doesn’t/can’t win it all.
And in another league, getting COTY seems to be a sign of imminent doom. On one ESPN radio show, they’ve pointed out that in the past several years, a number coaches who got that award were fired only one or two years later.
well yes id agree that it doesn't hold a lot of meaning in that sense. no award (OROY, DROY, OPOY) and the like mean anything
going into the next season. it doesn’t change how good or bad someone will play or coach. what it comes down to is like you said (consolation prize) basically, but to add to that also it is something to put on your resume for your next head coaching job.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Next Coaching Job?
I hope Jim C isn’t going to coaching anywhere else, anytime soon . . .
im not saying he will but im saying why it could hold some meaning in general
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Gold Star Resume
If the Colts win the SB this year, Coach will have all the resume cred he’ll ever need, for the rest of his life
I'm becoming convinced that BBS has issues with closure...a tough time moving on after disappointment and loss
The article reads almost as if he’d prefer the Colts to lose just so he could revel in his own vomit all the more.
GET OVER IT
@lefpsyd
your the one that can't get over BBS...i mean come on.
look he is talking about the award and mentions those games which are the games the media is killing us about as a likely reason for it. he didn’t bash anyone nor the coach or polian he just stated a very plausible reason. you are the one who came here to not contribute anything and to call out someone for no reason
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
But
He seems to think the media is right to kill us, and I do get the distinct impression he is spoiling to find negative consequences for the actions he found so disagreeable. But I for one will happily move on.
i think he just understands like we all do why and that is part of his post. and yes i don't think he has completely gotten over it
but there are others that are that way to
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
his thoughts and opinions
cant hurt us
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I don't think I said I was hurt
But if we are going the straw-man route, I don’t agree that thinking Polian/Caldwell did the right thing is some kind of thought crime. Damn…I’m trying to let this go. You’re not helping.
try porn
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Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
definitely
better than being behind me
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I contribute what I choose.
I simply post my reflections on what I read. If I like it, I briefly say why. If I don’t, I briefly say why. He has a right to his opinions, and that’s fine. But I choose to challenge them when I see flaws. You are right to criticize me in that I choose not to write long, well thought out rebuttals. I simply don’t take the time; I don’t have the time, frankly. It’s not important enough for me, especially since this whole argument seems based on emotion and vague achievements versus the lack thereof. The argument that the game was meaningful was the final straw for me. It got under my skin, and I shouldn’t have been so cutting in my remarks. For that I apologize.
In my opinion, the game meant nothing to anyone who was paying attention. It is only meaningful in retrospect because of the reaction moreso than the event itself. Going into the game, it was entirely plausible (likely, in my opinion) that they would rest starters. It was only meaningful to those who weren’t paying attention. They use the Jags game as evidence, and it’s a silly argument. I watched the Jags game and said to my friends, “huh, it looks like they’re rotating a lot more than usual…trying to stay sharp but not risk too much wear on an already beat up team.” So I figured they were tapering toward resting starters, which fit nicely into what they had been insinuating all along during the “will they or won’t they” debates from the previous month. So with that information, I pretty much assumed that at some point in the Jets game they’d pull the starters. With that assumption, I didn’t even watch the game that day because I needed to spend time with my family instead. I had the gamecast up and noticed when it happened and of course felt sad but completely understood…just thought the timing was off. I never figured Coach “quit” on anything…and I’m certain he doesn’t care about CotY. It certainly could’ve been handled more effectively by Polian during the days following, but it really bugged me that he was being so vilified by fans of the team he has helped build into a powerhouse. So I went on about my life and found myself embarrassed by the fan and media outcry against a decision that anyone who was paying attention had to see coming…evidently that was a poor assumption on my part.
As I’ve said in other comments – but failed to convey or live up to in this one – is that my main beef is not with disagreeing with the Colts brass, but in the fact that they way it’s been done reflects poorly on the character of our team’s fans, and in effect the culture of Indiana.
I understand if many fans are upset with the call, but posts like this fan the flame of it being an unforgivable sin. I choose to move on, and not worry too much about “the decision.” But I will take A’s advice and also try to move on from my anger toward the mob mentality of being angry about this situation.
@lefpsyd
by lefpsyd on Jan 8, 2010 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
look i was just saying his wasn't like in others just going off about the "decision" that all he did was mention it in a few sentences.
sorry if it came across wrong
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
We are on the same side
Though I initially disliked it too, I got over the “decision” fairly quickly. I haven’t gotten over the internecine outrage against the “decision”, mainly because such b.s. has been enlisted to support the outrage, and “it cost Caldwell CotY” is just the latest helping. The playoffs loom. We have a great shot at a championship. We are all Colts fans. Why did we keep circling back to Week 16?
idk i have gotten over it and am looking forward to the playoffs :)
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
We're on the same page, then
And I have to go to work in six hours.
oh lol i take it that means night so night
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by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
hai guyz
i just beat the computer in starcraft 1 v 4, can Norv do that? I dont think so. Loser.
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Starcraft is beyond awesome.
Couple questions though:
1. What race did you use (I prefer Terran).
2. What strategy did you use for that (Rush, focus on defense, etc.)
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
the only way i could do it
was to go protoss, build a ton of cannons at a choke, and then tech straight to carriers.
Cannons are absurdly over powered. The key is being able to survive the inital rush and then kill one of them as soon as you have like 5 carriers. The only type of defense from the terrans that would work, i think, are bunkers/tanks, and thats way too many resources, and on top of that, you’re losing tons of supply room for your high tech stuff,which you’re going to need to overcome being out numbered.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
says the guy
protecting Star Wars’ honour!
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Funny relevant pic
None, do I have.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
What's your point?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Makes sense.
I never liked using carriers in story mode because of the high price and permanent damage they take (I love using Archons), but in a mode like that with almost unlimited resources, I can see a 5+ carrier strategy being very effective.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
you could probably go
mass archons over carriers, they are overpowered, too :P
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
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Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I love that
all of their HP is shield. Makes recovering from a battle really quick if you have 2-3 shield batteries.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
yes
but in either case, if you go carriers or archons, you have to kill the terrans first. Goliaths mess up carriers and science vessels can make quick work of archons.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
I hate science vessels.
The computer always uses them so well.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Ladies and Gentlemen...your 2009 Coach of the Year...
Yep…looks like a guy that deserves it!
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
Simple Google searches have
turned up these gems:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/85290-norv-turner-out-coached-once-again-in-loss-to-colts
Watching this lackluster performance by San Diego, one has to wonder if Norv Turner is coaching not to lose instead of coaching to win. This showed very prominently when the Chargers got the ball back with 34 seconds left in the half after the Colts scored the tying touchdown to make it 10 a piece.
Instead of, at the very least, trying to get into field goal range with two timeouts left, Turner calls L.T.‘s number for a run up the middle for a seven-yard gain to get to the Chargers’ 34 yard line.
Then, does NOT proceed to call a timeout. With the clock down to 16 seconds, Rivers spiked the ball to stop the clock. On the very next play, Turner calls a run play again. This time, Tomlinson runs to the left for a 12-yard gain with the clock now at seven seconds.
Not once taking a shot deep until the last play before the half where Rivers threw what looked a duck that had been shot in mid-flight, falling nowhere near anyone with a football uniform on.
For whatever reason, Norv Turner decided to play conservative with 34 seconds left on the clock before half. The Chargers had two timeouts left and only needed to get into field-goal range. Had the Chargers got within field goal range and Kaeding makes it, those three points could have come in handy at the end of the game. However, Turner does not coach to win, he coaches not to lose.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135299
Haltime, and iregardeless if SD comes back to beat Baltimore, Norvron has already pulled off two (more) classics. On the same series.
1. 1st and goal from the one foot line, game clock is stopped as zebras review to see if Vincent Jackson got in the endzone. (He didn’t). However play clock is merely frozen, not reset to full 45 seconds as it’s considered the same play. That’s the rule.
So play clock is set to start at 12 seconds, game clock is at 19 seconds. All kinds of options here as ball is at one foot line. Try one pass on first down as an incomplete will only use up 5-6 seconds? Or just try to slam it in immediately on 1st down with a QB sneak, knowing if Balti stuffs it the clock will probably run out. Oh well, Phillup Rivers is 6-5 after all. Or both, try one or two passes then go with the QB sneak.
Nope, Norvron fails to notice the play clock is at 12 seconds and so the Chargers saunter up to the line and fail to get the play off on time and get penalized -5 yards.
(QB Rivers should have noticed too, will be interesting to see what he says.)
2. They try two lame pass attempts, incomplete. Still 10 seconds left 3rd down.
Take one more stab at the endzone with a pass, right?
Norvron does not attempt a 3rd down play and instead boots a field goal.
While you don’t want to face the Chargers roster, if you’re an opponent can you dream of a worse NFL head coach to face then Norvron?
I wonder how many more I can find.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
I could spend a lot of time
browsing this site:
Lots of good ammo against Norv there.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
This is a nice one:
http://www.firenorv.net/2009/09/crap-sandwich.html
FG on 3rd down with over 10 seconds left is not smart, not to mention the 3 delay of game calls.
Norv sucks as a coach. There is no way he should have won it, which should have been the focus of this article. I wouldn’t be complaining so much if Lewis won it for his brilliant work in Cincinnati. But freaking Norv? This, I can’t take.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
okay, this is going to come back to bite me in the ass
but here’s what’s really grating my balls about all this chargers talk.
First, in gambling circles Norv Turner is to coaches what a rookie QB is to QBs. He’s mistake prone. The game apparently moves too fast for him. He’s a GREAT coordinator, his record speaks for itself in that regard, but some people just can’t be a head coach.
Next, anyone that has really paid close attention to the Colts/Chargers games in recent memory knows two things have killed the Colts: Special teams and Darren Sproles. Tomlinson has been held in check. Rivers hasn’t gone nuts. Yes, Jackson and Gates have had some good games, but they have been unable to stop Sproles. The Chargers OL isn’t healthy/great this year (although maybe their C is healthy now, so that might be changing things), but the Colts front 7 IS healthy now. The Colts have kept Chris Johnson and Ray Rice in check, I just cant see Sproles doing to them this year what happened in the past.
Scifres won’t have another out of his mind game punting the ball. One top of that, if McAfee can get his leg back to what it was earlier in the year, we’ll be able to overcome some of those deeper-starting drives.
And finally, their big NT is out of the year, which should make things easier on the OL. On top of that, the Colts have 2 WRs to take the pressure off of Reggie Wayne. Marvin wasnt good enough to beat the single coverage last year, I expect Garcon to test Jammer or whomever is covering him deep, often. And I would expect Collie to be able to do almost as well as Gonzo did last year (gonzo killed the chargers).
This just doesn’t feel like Colts/Chargers of years past. The rock isnt crushing the same pair of scissor and the paper isnt covering the same piece of rock.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
by SpazMo on Jan 8, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I think you're
100% right. Sproles is what killed us in ‘07 and ’08 (with an assist by no pass rush, Brackett being out, and the best day ever by a punter), and I don’t see it happening again either. Plus, LT is completely healthy, so we won’t be exposed to all Sproles, all the time, which is a very good thing.
I liked how you described Norv too. What was reinforced by my brief “research” was that Norv is completely incapable of executing anything resembling clock management or execute coaching decisions (going for it, punting, etc.) in accordance to something like probabilities. Sadly for Norv, those are the primary responsibilities of an in-game coach, which is why anybody with half a brain cell considers him an awful coach despite how his actual team performs, which makes the CotY award given to him patently ridiculous.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
I've been afraid to make a post like this as well.
I’m feeling very optimistic about a match up against them, but I’m a generally optimistic person so it might not be a good thing that I’m feeling optimistic, but I feel optimistic that this time my optimism is not misplaced, so it doesn’t change the fact that I’m feeling optimistic about this match up.
Viva Optimism!
when the Colts go one and done
you’re buying me a few rounds to drown my optimism.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Yup. This is exactly how I see the Chargers right now.
Also, this potential game would be at home. That’s a vastly different surface than at SD.
One last fact I’ll add is this: The Chargers knocked us out of a first round playoff game. This game would not be that. This game would be after the Colts had already won a playoff game and would already have a head of steam. That’s a very different scenairo…
by vintagephoenix on Jan 8, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot
The Bullshit Penalties in the OT last play offs..or the facemask not called that was clearly shown and pointed out by the commentators.
How is it
you didn’t launch into a tirade on the “iregardeless” bit in the second quote box? I nearly had a goddamn seizure. It takes a rare talent to misspell a word that doesn’t exist in the first place.
It would have taken all day.
He also misspelled halftime and Phillip from first glance. But yeah, that’s a special talent. I was focused on my Norv tirade, and not a spelling one.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
I am in favor
of all such tirades.
I’m having a difficult time, actually, with the fact that I use the (chiefly) British spelling of words; I often have to go back and skim over what I write and change it so no one will bother asking about it. Not a salient or relevant aside, just from one language enthusiast to another.
So,
you type “colour” and “flavour” and the like? I for one wouldn’t be asking about that since I already know what that would mean, and it doesn’t really bother me on an online forum such as this, but I can see why you look over and change it. It would become a pain if multiple people either “correct” you on it or ask if you were British, etc.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
"iregardless"?!?!?
AAARRRRGGGHHH!!!!!
not a word AND it’s even misspelled!!!
How can you not love a team that does this?
My eye started twitching when I read that...
And I think I blacked out, because the next thing I remember is waking up in my back yard in nothing but a pair of ripped jeans. Weird…
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
How can you misspell something that is not a word?
A very surreal concept.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
It's in the dictionary, but apparently that doesn't guarantee that it's a word these days. I blame teh interwebsz, myself.
ir·re·gard·less
ir·re·gard·less [ìrri grdləss]
adv
(nonstandard) See regardless
[Early 20th century. Origin uncertain: probably a blend of irrespective and regardless .]
Nonstandard usage:
A moment’s thought will reveal that since the prefix ir- means "not" (as it does in irrespective), and the suffix -less means "without," irregardless is an illogical double negative. As such it is to be avoided, in favor of irrespective or regardless.
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
hit Post too soon
I reject a “dictionary” published by Microsoft because I once had one of their so-called consultants tell me that a Vision statement has to be “SMART” (specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, time-based). Uh – NO, asswipe – objectives are “SMART,” a Vision statement is a bit loftier than that.
/Ivy League MBA snob
How can you not love a team that does this?
i have no clue what you're talkin about
but its hot.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
Not to nitpick
but this isn’t the “real” Coach of the year awards. Just some DBag editors at USA Today. (The “real” CoTY award being the Associated Press one)
AHAHA.
I think this guy may be right. I don’t see any headlines on Yahoo!, and they usually have the awards as a headline for a day or so.
yea i knew it wasn't the AP i just thought it was sponcered though USA Today. but if this isn't real....
no likely the results will be the same but the tally may be diffrent. also how funny would it be with everyone complaining if the results are dif.?? lol
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, this topic exploded
I was just gonna say that pulling the starters was the toughest right call any coach has made all year. Not popular but right.
So much for all of the work I did to try and ease us past it and looking towards the playoffs. I forced myself to keep quiet for the most part when everyone was throwing temper tantrums left and right. I convinced myself calmer heads will prevail and apparently I was wrong.
I don’t have much to say that hasn’t already been said, I merely want to comment on two fallacies that you claim to be fact:
The Chargers also were not going for a 16-0 “perfect” regular season like the Colts were.
This is completely wrong. The Colts were never going for a perfect season. Caldwell and Polian had been saying it all season long, apparently you didn’t get the memo.
Many people felt that 16-0 was important.
Who exactly? You and the media and a bunch of fans with selective hearing? Again, Caldwell and Polian had been saying all along that going undefeated was not one of their goals. It amazes me that so many people were seemingly blindsided by something that was so inevitable.
"Yea, verily, we shall overcome thy pathetic attempts at defense, thou jelly-livered knave! Talk not of thy smack to me, for I shall wedge mine booted foot nine furlongs up thy ass, bitch! Canst thou dig it??"
by KingRichard on Jan 8, 2010 7:10 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
First time I've agreed with you in a long time
Anyone who says Caldwell or Polian “quit” or “took a dive” is a fucknut with an axe to grind. They pulled their starters just like they SAID they were gonna pull their starters, and they skipped out on 16-0 because they said (and the Pats proved) that 16-0 means nothing. Caldwell is COTY for following through on his philosophy in the face of withering criticism.
by slash196 on Jan 8, 2010 7:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You said it all right there.
They had been saying for weeks that they would pull their starters.
rec'ed this too
labeling Caldwell and Polian as quitters is a fallacy
by metal_militia on Jan 8, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
100% correct.
Rec’d.
It’s not a surprise anymore when I happen to agree with you. I’m not sure what to make of that.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
Never thought I would say this but
KR is the voice of reason on this matter.
by metal_militia on Jan 8, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
"If Caldwell loses early in the playoffs, or if he loses to the Chargers in post-season play"
BBS you keep saying this, but you’ve yet to give me a convincing argument that it is true. No one promised post-season success by pulling starters, they said it would improve their chances.
Second, if they had gone 16-0 and lose early or lose to the Chargers, wouldn’t everyone still be calling for their heads?
I know this is no surprise at this point, but logic has flown completely out the window on this site.
god not this again
1) people ( the people who vote on these things) have been writing since the second half of the season that Caldwell was never at very tippy top of the list because he inherited a really good team. Not like Marvin Lewis who kind of made something out of nothing. Turner’s kind of a head scratcher, but then again Peyton got the MVP for 9 game streak coming off knee surgery… at least Rivers won’t get MVP (crossing fingers)
2)Let’s imagine for a moment the Colts don’t let up in week 15 and kill the jets and wayne and clark get their catches….. we have even more guys who are hurt and don’t practice in the coming week, it still snows like the the dickens in Buffalo, and caldwell PULLS THE FUCKING PLUG ANYWAY for the same reasons he did the week before, and we’re 15-1 and you’re just as mad. You say "I wouldn’t be as mad- at least it wasn’t in front of the home cr- BULLSHIT: we would be one week closer to your favorite record ever and by now everyone would still be telling you to shut the hell up about it
Big UP to Eddie White
for doing HIS part to rally Colts fans in the last week or so. A superbowl is BIGGER than all this, BBS.
Norv Turner? Really? This has to be a joke.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
probably not but could sorta be
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
some ESPN writer had some horrible long winded crap about why Turner deserves it
I couldn’t really make my eyes bleed anymore by dignifying it with a careful read but a lot of it sure sounded like players saying “OH HE’S A GREAT COACH”. What, you expect the players to publicly state that they think he’s awful? How is that anything remotely close to valid reasoning for why he deserves CotY?
by flores salicis on Jan 8, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
no idea but well the media is the media and that there tells us a lot. (ignorance i bliss)
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
This isn't the real COY award
The AP award will be announced next week. This is the “USATODAY” award, which means diddly-squat. This is like the RATS awards by Kravitz. I know BBS wants to stoke this fire as long as possible but again his title is misleading. This isn’t the real award.
dates that the real awards are announced
January 6 (morning): defensive rookie of the year.—-Cushing
January 6 (afternoon): offensive rookie of the year.—-Harvin
January 7 (morning): comeback player of the year.—-Goatlover
January 10: MVP.
January 13 (morning): defensive player of the year.
January 14 (morning): offensive player of the year.
January 15 (morning): All-Pro team.
January 17: coach of the year.
So basically I went on a rant for nothing
I asked someone whetther the USA Today COY was the same as the AP and they told me yes. Sports writers like Rick Gosselin (I don’t know if he has a vote) don’t even mention Turner’s name in consideration. Lewis definitely deserves it.
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
Yeah, you went on a rant for nothing
I think BBS thought this was the real award, but he was wrong. Also, yes, Gosselin is one of the 50 AP voters for the real awards.
BBS stop doing it. It makes you silly and just raises your pageviews from parachuters
And well maybe this award from USA Today is a prediction to the official one. But I knew it was going to happen… The Chargers are really hot, and we fans aren’t giving too much respect for our team.
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
stope giving us this schedurel it isn't really accurate to what is going on. first off all the dates should be moved up a day (6th become 5th).
just look at when these other awards have been named. also this schedule was never a solid thing.
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Goatlover......
classic.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: The Colts lost. The world moved on (I think).
he thought it was, it has since been updated
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
CotY
I realize this is not “the” Coach of the Year award awarded by Associated Press. However, based on what we discuss in the article, it is pretty clear that Jim Caldwell will not win that award either for the same reasons he did not win this award. Lots of media sources award “Coach of the Year” honors, from USA Today to AP to Sporting News. All are fairly consistent, and if Caldwell is coming in third in a USA Today tally, and only get two votes in a fan bloggers tally… yeah, he will not win AP Coach of the Year, and the reason will be the Jets game
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And he'll always be known as the coach who quit when his team was going to a perfect season
But there’s other opportunities coming. I really hated that move from Polian and Caldwell too, as well as some of the Brazilian fans from the Colts. But we see that the reason why some of you from USA are still upset is the fact of turning this team into a joke due to it. Losing to the Chargers will be like taking a shot at your balls. We don’t have this problem, because no one knows that we root for NFL teams
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
I agree with you
I very, very, VERY much Jim Caldwell to win a Super Bowl and validate the decision to rest players. However, if the Colts lose, the consequences will be disastrous.
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agreed.
Coach was in a no win situation. As beat up as we were, the chances of actually winning out through the playoffs with a modicum of health were too low to make it worth the risk. In the end, similar to what any of us in leadership positions would do, he simply has to try and simplify his decision by assessing the problem in light of his job description and the purpose of the organization. Things get complicated when emotion contradicts logic, and there is external pressure to achieve vague “earth shattering” accomplishments. In the end, he simply had to realize that his role is to put the team in the best possible position to realistically compete for a super bowl. I know that sounds boring to many fans, because so many of us – myself included – fall prey to the mentality of “The Hare” when in fact we all know “The Tortoise” wins in the end.
To take it to another level, this is basically what happened over the past few years in the US when people became so eager to “make it” that they found themselves purchasing homes they couldn’t afford. If only leaders like Coach Caldwell had been in the banking industry during that time, many of us would not be living in rentals with screwed up credit and wounded pride. That’s probably taking this too far, but that’s what is on my mind.
@lefpsyd
I didn't think Coach Caldwell would win it
even before deciding to take out starters to insure health for the playoffs. The COY award usually goes to a coach of a team that wasn’t expected to do much. Marvin Lewis is most likely the winner.
yea i wish, hope it is not turner
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Oi...
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
by E.M.H. on Jan 8, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Awesome Office Space!
You, sir, get a rec. If I could give you two chicks at once, I’d give you that too.
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Not even excesses of liquor has ever gotten me that...
As an aside: I think all those “racy” movies were lying to me this whole time. :-(
;)
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I don't know what you're talking about...
It happens to me all the time. But then again, I’m really Steven Tyler.
by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
what time is the colts playoff game on saturday?
tryign to schedule my weekend around it… thanks for the help
go mavs, go colts, go rangers, go baylor
8:15
They are the night game.
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thanks!
that is what i thought, but couldn’t find it anywhere…
this sets up perfect… wont have to ignore my wife until the evening
go mavs, go colts, go rangers, go baylor
LOL
Glad it fits in your plans.
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going to a spa resort thing
for my wifes bday on friday nigth and wont be back until late afternoon on saturday… i was nervous!
go mavs, go colts, go rangers, go baylor
haha well hope your nerves are calmed a little now lol
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
What's wrong with me in that I read this as "Glad it fits in your pants"
I thought dyslexia only reversed letters… whole new disorder, perhaps?
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
darn reply failure lol. anyway BBS has it and it was right in the middle of mine
GO COLTS!!! 09 IS OURS!!!
by TheAngelsColts on Jan 8, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Im just going to make a list of reasons why Caldwell should have been COTY
Caldwell fired and replaced Purnell and Meeks with Coyer and Rychleskie
He made the unpopular decision to bench Ugoh for Charlie Johnson
He made another unpopular decision to cut Ed Johnson
he had to start two rookie corners
he had to start (essentially) two rookie WR’s
As Spazmo said, he put them in position to go 16-0
his team has the best record in the league
Why he didnt get the award after all this is beyond me
It's awkward too
but it was his decision to quit, that wasn’t only his decision but Polian and Irsay too, that took the prize out of his hands. The Chargers have been called this week “San Diego Super Chargers” by some blogs, news sites and etc. Even at some orkut communities (I’m Brazilian, the only reason I’ve got Facebook is to play Farmville and Mafia Wars) I’ve got into discussions about which one is the fearest team of the playoffs, and everybody said it’s the Chargers. We can’t keep pressing the same button all the time, and even if we could, it wouldn’t be worthy at all. The Colts players and staff are underrated; the Colts fans are underrated. When the right opportunity come, that’s the gap to us to make the noise. And this’ll come in two given moments:
1) Winning the Chargers/AFCCG, no matter what the score will be
2) Winning the Super Bowl
At moment 2, I’ll start to produce my “17-2 > 18-1” and screw those who complain that I’m doing what the press is doing: comparing the Colts to the Patriots
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
JHC
so are you telling me i had to pour my heart, soul, and tears into all those posts above, and this wasn’t even the real COTY award? So now next week when Norvalias is voted the real COTY I’m going to have to go through this whole pain staking process again? HAVE SOME COMPASSION FOR THE FANS, DOUCHE BAGS. If you’re going to announce a real fake real award announce it at the same time the fake real award is being announced and let the fans decide which fake real award is more fake and less real.
Never doubt Peyton Manning, he’ll make you look silly
Joseph Addai is a good running back.
Im a douchebag, an asshole, and I'm rarely right.
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