Even With Anthony Gonzalez Possibly Returning, The Colts Wanted Devin Thomas Anyway
News early this week of wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez's return to the practice field was encouraging, but it still left people like me cautiously optimistic.
Yes, it's nice Gonzo is back practicing, but past experience has taught me not to get to excited about that prospect. Gonzo is injury prone; aka, for those of you out there still clinging to this idea that Gonzo is somehow 'misunderstood' when it comes to injuries, he gets hurt a lot. So, while it's good to see him running, practicing, catching passes in shorts, the issue with Gonzo is his inability to stay healthy for long periods of time during a season. As I have often said, this is frustrating because I like Gonzo. He's a hard worker. He cares about the game. He takes his job seriously. Oh, and Peyton Manning loves the dude.
However, the Colts (in my not-so-humble opinion) have probably grown tired of Gonzo's constant trips to the training room, which is likely why they made a claim for former Redskins wide receiver Devin Thomas this week.
Thomas was a second round pick of the Redskins in 2008 out of Michigan State, where he played with current Colts wideout Blair White. At 6'2, 215 pounds, Thomas provides size and speed (4.4 40) to any wide receiving corps. He can also return kicks.
Currently, the Colts have Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie. Anthony Gonzalez, Kenneth Moore, and Blair White at the receiver position. This Sunday night, all could be active. Moore and White are on the roster mostly for their special teams contributions. Had the Colts gotten Thomas (he went to Carolina because their worse record gave them the stronger 'claim' over Indianapolis), the Colts would have needed to cut a receiver. Conventional thought is they would have cut Moore.
However, I think they would have cut Gonzo.
See, Gonzo cannot play special teams. He's just too brittle. The Colts seem scared to use him as a punt returner, and I doubt we will ever see Gonzo running downfield on punts as a gunner. With Garcon firmly entrenched as a starter at flanker, and Collie having a truly monstrous start to his '10 season, Gonzo is (essentially) warming the bench. If Indy had gotten Thomas, he could have played special teams along with Moore and White, and right now special teams is a priority with all the injuries Indy has sustained.
Thus, Gonzo would then be expendable.
Again, that's just my opinion, and a little food for thought. The Colts could have also wanted Thomas only for this week in particular. The Colts play Thomas' old team Sunday night, and a little inside info on the Redskins playbook is something Thomas could have provided.
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"However, I think they would have cut Gonzo."
Yeah, right, I was wondering, when the article appeared what crazy stuff was born in BBS’ mind this time.
BBS just says
all kinds of crap. Whatever pops into his head. You know, I think the Colts are probably considering cutting Peyton to make some room on the roster and free up some money. They will probably go after a good backup on someone else’s team. With the extra money, the Colts could get better linemen. I have zero basis for this and literally just thought of it, but I decided to go ahead and write it anyway.
by boothman11 on Oct 13, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I had high hopes for this guy
I kept on wondering why he wasn’t catch on with the Redskins. Last year he appeared to show something when he went out for over 200 yards in a single game. I wished he’d be available but, didn’t hold high it in the highest regards considering Colts current wide receiver depth. As for Gonzo, I believe the organization would have cut K. Moore and looked for a possible trade situation at the end of the year. Colts are gonna need draft selections and creating ways of moving guys to compensate for all the losses will be priority one.
by Dann Giszewski on Oct 13, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
If Gonzo is majorly injured, he ISN'T WORTH EVEN A CRAPPY DRAFT PICK.
If he is not injured, then the colts will keep them. So, I see no facts to support any trade ideas for gonzo.
Cut Gonzo??
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by Bama Blue on Oct 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I had assumed
that the interest in Devin Thomas was mostly as a returner. But I do wonder if something isn’t afoot (no pun intended) – it seems that the Colts have looked at a LOT of WRs in recent weeks. Considering that (in my mind at least) there is a deep need for DBs and O-Line, I find this curious.
Meanwhile, the trade deadline approaches…
Boothman
You’re upset cause BBS stated his opinion.. Guess what?…..
That’s what “Bloggers” do..
If you want “sports news”.. Try espn
by PeytonsForeHead on Oct 13, 2010 11:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Why doubt BBS
He makes a valid point. I just think the situation would play out a little differently thou. Gonzo is slipping down the depth charts and he’s perfect for trade bait. If he shows something this year, chances are that’s the whole reason they’re keeping Bob Sanders on the roster also. Polian needs to make up for his mistakes and take some overhead off the team in the process. This would help the team in so many fashions next year.
by Dann Giszewski on Oct 13, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
BBS would have cut Gonzo
The Colts would have cut Moore
I seriously doubt that Thomas
would have been anything other than depth and perhaps a returner.
What happened to the last guy we got that couldn’t even catch passes from Donovan McNabb, anyway?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 13, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
He did unspeakable things to our hindquarters
aka he f’d us in the ass when it mattered most in the biggest game of his career. I wish I could nut-punch him and his manly wife.
Baskett is a talentless douche
but he had great size and that’s probably the only reason he stuck around. Something tells me Thomas was appealing for his size and speed, with the idea Manning can work with ANY receiver and make them better.
I’ve always wondered…. what would Manning do if he had more BIG, FAST targets?
Everything else, though, points to the attempt at acquiring Thomas as a good way to get some quick info on the Redskins’ offense before the Sunday match-up and possibly an upgrade over Moore as a returner.
by nickfromnaptown on Oct 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
With Garcon firmly entrenched as a starter
Since when has Garcon had a firm grip on anything, much less a football
by metal_militia on Oct 13, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Hahaha
Nice.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
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by BlueMark1821 on Oct 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah zing!
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Would have been moore
The guy was awful returning kicks last week and since that was the only reason for signing him, he would have been booted. Thomas can actually return kicks pretty decent and play WR pretty decent. Gonzo can do the ladder while Moore can do neither. It’s a no brainer.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
K. Moore
was turrible. He looked like Chad Simpson out there…when will these boys stop taking the ball out of the end zone, anyway?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 13, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
When will Polian get off his high horse
and spend a highpick on a return man. Doesn’t have to be a wasted pick, either. Javier Arenas is a great DB and a great returner, and the Chiefs use him to his fullest capabilities.
I shit my pants the other night when Percy Harvin was not only destroying the Jets in the return game, but also burning through their secondary and making eye-popping catches. Both his touchdown grabs were Top 10 worthy plays this week.
Makes me a sad panda. Why can’t we get one of those guys!?
by nickfromnaptown on Oct 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
THANK YOU
I wanted Arenas and would have traded the 1st round pick for two 2nds to be able to get him…..Colts needed secondary help/depth AND most importantly needed a difference maker on special teams.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
how many teams actually have two second round picks in one year?
kinda cuts down your trading partners unless you’re willing to defer until next year for one of them.
And since we were picking 31st, which has a draft value of 600 points acc. to one draft value chart i know of, that would mean the equiv in terms of two second round picks would be two picks roughly between picks 25 and 32 in the 2nd. It would probably be easier to get a 2nd and a 3rd from a single team. Picks right around 16-17 in the 2nd & 3rd would balance with the 31st pick in the 1st.
Of course GMs probably stray from this on impulse, just like we all do at the checkout line.
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
Arenas great returner, LOL
Polian said this, because he always praises the opponent. He is average and without deep speed.
You really think
he isn’t a great returner? He doesn’t need speed when he’s breaking ankles out there… with his moves, club bouncers don’t even allow him on the dance floor.
by nickfromnaptown on Oct 13, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Too early
for the stats to tell us anything.
by nickfromnaptown on Oct 14, 2010 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Dexter McCluster is being considered great
and if you take away the one punt return touchdown he had for 94 yards, he was averaging less per return than Arenas, at 9.4 yards.
Arenas will break one soon enough. The most underrated part about Arenas as a return man is the fact he WILL NOT call for a fair catch. He is fearless and will make things happen without mistakes which his track record will prove. Arenas has zero fair catches and is among the Top 10 in return average for those that qualify for the statistic.
Call him average if you like, that is your opinion. Calling him great is my opinion, and I base it off Arenas appearing to be one of the more dangerous guys to contain and tends to make teams pay for kicking to him more often than not.
by nickfromnaptown on Oct 14, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I must admit...
I wanted Arenas too.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Oct 13, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of us did
even though that means Gilbert would be at Colts’ games packin’ heat.
by nickfromnaptown on Oct 13, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Phil B. disagrees
“It’s been brought to my attention, also, that the Colts put in a waiver claim on WR Devin Thomas, but they didn’t get him. Somebody thought the claim suggested Gonzo’s roster spot was in jeopardy. I don’t think it was that…”
http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2010/10/13/colts-breakfast-one-more-until-the-bye/
Granted, Phil doesn’t go into much detail, and this doesn’t automatically mean that Phil’s right and BBS is wrong. I’m merely pointing it out to show that someone in routine contact with the team also doesn’t think the attempted claim had any meaning as far as releasing Gonzo.
Could BBS be right? Well, of course he could. But I’d want to see a better argument – or actual evidence, such as a statement from inside the Colts – than what’s been given so far before I’d accept that he is. They carried Stokely for a while when he was injured, and they’re currently still carrying Sanders. That’s a precedent right there indicating they’re unlikely to release Gonzales at this time.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Don't get anyone started about Sanders
It just doesn’t make any sense to me why he is still on the active roster.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
because he's projected to return with up to 4 games left in the regular season. plenty of time.
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
Gonzo and garçon
Man personally I’d like to see gonzo out there right now I don’t if garçon has been slowed by injuries or missin all preseason but he just seems to be strugglin more this year. He’s not really getting separation from corners. Now gonzo may have the same problems with his knees, ankles, or whatnot but drops are killing us right now and we need all the help we can get in that area. I would just really enjoy seeing this offense in sync again like we are all used to, however that may happen or who’s in there.
by asned on Oct 13, 2010 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Garbage
The claim on D. Thomas was an attempt to strengthen the WR corps but add to ST value, not take Gonzo’s spot. Look at his return stats from here: http://www.nfl.com/players/careerstats?id=THO112147
Averaging 28 yards on KO is plenty for me to believe that he was to be looked at more for KR duties than WR duties at this point. Plus this made me laugh:
With Garcon firmly entrenched as a starter at flanker
Ummm…no. Phil B. said after Week 1 that the Colts planned to alternate Garcon and Gonzo in series like they did with DeVan and Pollak at the beginning of last year. Thus, Garcon is no where near ‘firmly" entrenched. Peyton isn’t a big fan of WRs that stuffer from dropsies. I think Garcon offers a lot of upside and downfield playmaking abilities due to his speed. But do people honestly not remember what Gonzo has been able to do with YAC?
Peyton loves Gonzo because he catches the ball, runs good routes and is able to help this offense move the ball down the field. I’m no apologist for guys that get injured, but I don’t know why the term “injury-prone” is so often applied to Gonzo. His injury was mishandled last year, he should have been put on IR. Do we call David Caldwell or Jamie Silva “injury-prone” b/c they can’t play this year? Sometimes, those injuries happen people. Yes, Gonzo got injured in Week 1 this year, but he played in 13 games as a rookie and 16 games as a 2nd year player and he’s either coming back this week or for the next game.
To me Gonzo is not “Injury-prone” he’s just had 2 injuries in the past 2 years, and that’s frustrating for us and I’m sure even more so, for him!
I wanted to emphasize this:
“To me Gonzo is not "Injury-prone" he’s just had 2 injuries in the past 2 years…”
The term “injury prone” suggests a high incidence of injury, not necessarily long recovery times when they occur. Gonzales, as pointed out, has only had two injuries that sidelined him (and I think he’s had a couple of more that did not lead to scratches; anyone remember him getting lit up during one of the San Diego games? I think that did him in for a few snaps, IIRC). It’s much more accurate to say that he’s lost a lot of playing time to injury. “Injury prone” suggests that he gets a high number of injuries. 2 injuries in what, 4 years is not a high number if you think about it.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Or in short, I agree with GoHorse88
I think he’s nailed it in that post.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Thanks E.M.H.
I just think it’s an unfair slam on Gonzo. It’s not like the guy hasn’t played meaningful snaps for us or that he’s in and out of the lineup consistantly. Just bad luck recently.
I understand, the media (including this blog) has a “What-have-you-done-for-me-lately” mindset, but I think a bit of reflection and integrity could be used to make sure that statements like these don’t just get made for shock value.
I would appreciate that more in an article than I would appreciate an outcry of response afterward, Maybe, it’s just me.
Colts are patient
BBS I’m sorry, it sounds like you haven’t been paying attention to the Colts for that long. They are patient with smart and good players.
I like it best when you stick to informative stories, you would make a better journalist than analyst. I could be wrong but I think that’s how this blog received it’s success—good and timely information. Maybe you like all the hits and comments…or your sponsors do.
Lucas Berridge
by Firebird on Oct 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
HIS BLOG, HIS RULES!!!
Forget about O-Line, D-Line, Safety, and Corner – lets get more WR’s!
Cut Gonzo.
Ok, Johnny Drama…
by I'm Not Alone, I'm Just Blue on Oct 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
Uh, how has nobody noticed the important part:
FORMER REDSKIN.
If this guy was in camp with them this year, that’s why they wanted him.
If not, it’s still fairly obvious:
Collie, Garcon, and Gonzo are all less than 100% healthy. They need depth.
Signing James wasn’t a signal that they wanted to cut Brown or Addai any more than this was.
This is two consecutive shit-stirring posts where you’re obviously trying to make something from nothing.
Cookie Cookie Cookie starts with C!
Oh Crap!... So that means when they signed Bradstater, they... they...
… Oh My GOD!! 

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
by E.M.H. on Oct 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
got Peyton one last haircut
and dropped him off at the bus station with a sack lunch
"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"
by naptown_ninja on Oct 13, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent points.
Thomas is a receiver and most of the Colts’ are banged up right now. He is a viable returner which is something they can always use.
Thomas being from the Redskins would have been a brain to pick the week prior to playing Washington. Possibly the biggest reason of interest.
You don’t always sign to cut another at the same position.
great point about using Devin for industrial espionage
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
BBS - Save the post
The next time the Colts put in a waiver bid on a RB you can just substitute Brown for Gonzo and recycle it.
by smonroe on Oct 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Kind of a stretch BBS
"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"
Gonzo
we need all our receivers, if he can play we need him, cahnces are one of the other ones will get hurt or nicked up and may ahve to miss a game or 2
Would have been a 1 wk pickup...
Polian loves to sign guys from an upcoming opponent & pump them for information, then cut them soon thereafter (DaJuan Morgan, etc)
Bill is smart & is glad to pay a guy for a week or 2 for info.

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