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NFL Trade Rumors: Should The Colts Trade For Richard Seymour?

This weekend, Adam Schefter reported that the Raiders are interested in trading anyone on their roster by tomorrow's trading deadline. Naturally, the Raiders denied the report, which means Schefter's reporting is completely, 100% accurate.

Earlier today, in an article for SBNation.com, my friend Brian Galliford listed the Colts as a team that needs to pull a trade to remain a contender. Brian wrote:

It seems the Colts struggle to defend the run annually, and are constantly looking to fortify their run defense. In 2006, they acquired Anthony McFarland at the trade deadline, and he helped them win a Super Bowl. They had a deal in place for Buffalo's John McCargo in 2008 before a failed physical derailed the acquisition. This year, Daniel Muir and in particular Fili Moala aren't getting the job done. Can Bill Polian find another player for his beleaguered run defense at the trade deadline?

Assessing the DT market: There's not much rumored to be out there, at least in the way of a bigger-name acquisition. Still, it wouldn't shock us if Polian made a move for a younger player, even if it's not via the trade market. Unless, of course, he's interested in taking a shot at Albert Haynesworth. (Yeah, probably not.)

FYI: Richard Seymour plays for the Raiders. Richard Seymour is 6'6, 310 pound defensive lineman. See where I'm going with this?

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We Colts fans are well aware of Richard Seymour. For years, he terrorized the interior of the Colts offensive line when he was a d-lineman for the Patriots. The Pats traded Seymour, arguably their best interior lineman, last season for a 2011 first round pick. The result was the Patriots getting destroyed by the Ravens in the playoffs 33-14. New England surrendered 234 rushing yards in that game.

Now, I'm not here to suggest that the current 31-year-old version of Richard Seymour is the same as the one who was a catalyst for three Super Bowls in New England. But, we do know that the guy still has ability, and he definitely knows how to win. His numbers last season (16 starts, 4 sacks, 47 tackles) were on par with his average numbers with the Patriots. In 2008, he tied a career high with 8 sacks.

Even 4 sacks would be an improvement for a team like the Colts. Last year, Daniel Muir had a breakout season of sorts, earning 52 tackles. However, he only had half a sack. Eric Foster had 2.5. I personally can't remember the last time the Colts had a DT who got as many as 4 sacks.

Tony McCoy?

Elis Johnson?

Tony Siragusa?

I'm not necessarily in favor of the Colts trading for a DT, but if Indy traded a pick for Richard Seymour, I'd cheer. It's not like Bill Polian's draft picks on defensive linemen have panned out of late. Fili Moala (second round, 2009) isn't lighting the world on fire (12 total tackles, no sacks) and all the other tackles (Muir, Foster, and Antonio Johnson) are low end free agent acquisitions.

The only hitch to getting Seymour is he is making over $12 million dollars this season. He's playing under the franchise tag, which means the Colts could lease him this season and then let him walk if things don't work out.

For me, I think the Colts need o-line and safety help. But, if Richard Seymour were to become a Colts d-lineman this season, I would not protest. When motivated and healthy, Seymour is a difference maker. So far this season, the Colts have not been good stopping the run and generating rush from the interior of their line. Seymour would provide a spark to both those weak areas if the Colts could trade for him.

Remember, back in 2006, the Colts were willing to give up a second round pick for Anthony  'Booger' McFarland. Richard Seymour is light years better than Booger was back then.

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If The Price IS Right

If they can get him at a decent deal sure why not get him on lease for a year.

by Ufanforreal on Oct 18, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

with Seymore long in the tooth and on the back side of his career.

 I dont see how, the Raiders would be able to demand more then 4th rounder.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Oct 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't forget that Seymour is making $13 million this year, which makes it a big investment

Seymour is a good run defender, but he’s not the reason the Patriots got gouged in the playoffs.

If the Colts really want Seymour for a 10-14 game rental, then go for it. If they want a game-changing interior lineman for several years, I don’t think Seymour is the right choice at this point.

Raiders won’t give him up easily either, despite Schefter’s report. It would take at least a 2nd AND 3rd to get him. Al Davis can be stubborn.

by Greg Knopping on Oct 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Gene, good point

 I agree, Seymore was most productive in the 3-4 defense of New England. If, he is traded, it would be a shock to see the Chiefs as a suitor. Romeo has a long history with Richard, he knows the system and would be a valuable addition to the young and developing Chiefs.

If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?

by whardiek on Oct 18, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am 100% in favor of acquiring Seymour

He would add an interior presence in the pass rush

by metal_militia on Oct 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Once again

It depends on the asking price. Oakland had to give up a 1st rounder to get him. I’m thinking they might want a 2nd rounder at least. I wouldn’t be opposed to giving up, at max, a 4th. There were some other deals I was pondering. Imagine if we could swing a deal for a Power back. For example, send Anthony Gonzalez and a 3rd round pick to the Rams for Steven Jackson. Or perhaps trade for McNeil from San Diego. The problem is it’s unlikely that another AFC rival would be willing to improve our team by trading a key player to us. We might be able to swing a deal out of the NFC. I still love Dockett from Arizona. He’d be a guy we could really use. Haynesworth’s contract is far too ridiculous to take on.

18>12

by metallicolts on Oct 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

ok, i know that you're probably talking about jackson merely as an example

but that’s an utter pipe dream. no way on earth the rams trade him.

"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
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by McAfee#1 on Oct 18, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I think if the price was right, or the deal was sweet enough, just about any player on most teams is available. There are of course a few players who won’t be moved (Brady, Brees, Rivers, P. Manning, Revis, Adrian Peterson, etc..)

The Rams would be complete morons to not consider dealing Jackson, considering his injury history and the fact that his backup has played well filling in. The Rams have so many necessary holes to plug that they could indeed trade Jackson.

Case in point, the Colts traded their star RB after Manning’s rookie season. The Colts had a lot of needs and at the time Faulk was considered to be a malcontent by the organization.

by DevilsReject on Oct 18, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Those Rams owe us a RB trade? Lol.

18>12

by metallicolts on Oct 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jackson, for sure, is a Pipe Dream

There is NO way the Rams are going to deal their star RB right now, and probably wouldn’t even consider it unless it was just an ubelievable deal, as in 1st round pick (or picks) and other parts as well. The Rams just beat the Chargers and are definitely on the upswing. They certanily have other holes to fill, but at 3-3 and in the weak NFC West, they would absolutely foolish to deal the centerpiece of their offense. Especially not for injury prone Anthony Gonzalez and a third round pick.

I love sports. Probably in a way that is unhealthy on many levels.

by ClarkFan44 on Oct 18, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Risky, but I love the idea

Seymour is a proven line player, with quality talent. Sure, he’s a little older, but so was Booger. If we could get Seymour this year for say, a 3rd round pick, or maybe a 6th rounder and say…Gonzo… I’d even give thoughts to it. As many of us have stated thus far, it would all boil down to what the Raiders would want in return.

And Seymour would be a perfect fit for our defense, as he has both the body and speed to play within it. The guy is essentially a DE in a DT body. I’d love to see him in Colts blue, especially before the Colts played the Patriots….

The reality: Not in a bazillion years would Polian do it.

by DevilsReject on Oct 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade Gonzalez for him

Hey, this is the Raiders we’re talking about…

by jochexum on Oct 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

LOL

Post of the day.

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by Brad Wells on Oct 18, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha nice

Let’s throw in Marv as well. Al Davis would go for it.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Oct 18, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like it.

Don’t see it happening, though.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
I really, REALLY miss Bob Sanders. One of my favorite players (in any sport) of all time.

by BlueMark1821 on Oct 18, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

He has a little Moss in him and by that I mean he could really destroy some offensive lineman when he wants too, but then there are times when he seems to be going through the motions.

And then of course there’s always the disdain I hold for him when he faked an injury against the Colts in a playoff game (don’t recall which one, either 2003 or 2004).

You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
I also have Twitter.

by KingRichard on Oct 18, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

oh wait

That was Willie McGinest in 03 or 04, Seymour was playing possum in the 2006 AFCCG.

You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
I also have Twitter.

by KingRichard on Oct 18, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like

The Raider’s safety Tyvon Branch. Plus Seymore is getting kind of old isn’t he?

by TNCOLTS on Oct 18, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Nnamdi Asomugha would be a sweet pickup. Coyer could do all kinds of crap with two corners who could play man coverage (Powers being the other).

You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
I also have Twitter.

by KingRichard on Oct 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Dream on

as his price tag this year is more than $16 million and would be the same for next season.

by nickfromnaptown on Oct 18, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely a pipe dream

While I love the choice, we’d have to pay entirely too much to get him, and he still doesn’t address the Colts problems on defense.

Yes, I would love to have him, but we need better players in our front 7, not our DB’s…..

by DevilsReject on Oct 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small pieces

I like the pass coverage LB Thomas Howard of the Raiders, he gave Manning and our TEs fits when we played at Oakland 3 years ago. I think he could play good OLB unless we plan to use Angerer there to rotate with Wheeler.

by chad72 on Oct 18, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

We didn't finish yesterday

I felt that our schemes of stunting did improves the pressure up front for our D-line yesterday. We just did not finish.

by chad72 on Oct 18, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

the dline had great push all around

moala had trouble wrapping up, which is annoying, but was very disruptive, as was freeney. it isn’t always about the stats.

"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.

by McAfee#1 on Oct 18, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have...

Shaun Rodgers and according to ESPN’s AFC North blogger James Walker, he has been hearing talk that involves moving Rodgers before the trade deadline. Walker believes the Browns will be looking to bring in a CB to boost their secondary, or, a WR to help their struggling, beat up offense.

Rodgers’ production isn’t showing in the stat sheets, so to most he may not be appealing. Walker also points out that the Browns haven’t been putting him on the field much despite D-line injuries.

All that aside, Rodgers is one of the nastiest interior linemen in the league. I’m inclined to believe it’s hard to stay motivated playing for the Lions and Browns most of his career, and if Rodgers were to get a chance with a contender like the Colts, oh my….

Nothing against Seymour, I’ve just always liked Rodgers more. Who wouldn’t want a 350-pounder in the middle?!

by nickfromnaptown on Oct 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

ROGERS

I didn’t spell his name right… shame on me.

What I didn’t realize was how long is left on his contract. His contract wouldn’t expire until 2013. The good side to that, though, is the fact the bulk of the $42 million on that contract was being payed in the first three years. From 2011-2013 Rogers will only be making $19 million, roughly over $6 million per season. I find that pretty affordable for a game-changing DT.

by nickfromnaptown on Oct 18, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is

Rogers gets worn out fairly quickly. He spends a lot of time huffing and puffing on the sideline. So if a team is still able to run the ball and keep our d on the field, he will be useless. He’s awesome when he goes 100%. But he can only go 100% about 60% of the time.

18>12

by metallicolts on Oct 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If they bring in a big DT

the Colts will use them in the same fashion they did with Booger and Simon. The Colts would force teams into passing situations and substitute the quicker interior linemen like Foster and Moala. Rogers would be on the field for roughly 30 plays a game, tossing O-linemen all over the place.

by nickfromnaptown on Oct 18, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually a pretty nice choice

The only downside is Rogers has a history of screwing up, and the Colts would probably nix it based on that.

However, Rogers is quite the disruptive force in the middle, and he’s never had the luxury of playing with quality DE’s like the Colts have. He’d definitely be worth the addition….and as nick stated, the Colts could limit his work load to assist.

by DevilsReject on Oct 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its as EASY as This

they will NEVER EVER trade seymur… STOP dreaming, they waste the 2011 first round pick ( that the patriots have and most probably will use it on mark ingram) by trading for seymur…
There no way in the world they would trade Seymur to any place… they are no that assholes…

by 18to44 on Oct 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I would only be interested if it's for a....

fourth round pick. I think it would be a risk because of his willingness to take plays off. I think he could have some value, but he’s not a solution in the long term.

Bleedin' Blue for as long as I can remember. Can you believe we get to be fans while our team has the greatest QB of all time?!?!?!

by emiller17 on Oct 18, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

yep...

I think that’s right…my bad, we don’t have a forth!

Bleedin' Blue for as long as I can remember. Can you believe we get to be fans while our team has the greatest QB of all time?!?!?!

by emiller17 on Oct 18, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

DT still a problem

They can’t afford to give up another draft pick for Seymour.
I thought the DT issue was fixed?
Last year I kept reading how stacked the Colts were at DT.
Ed Johnson was cut, Terrance Taylor (a fourth round pick) was cut, Moala was drafted high but isn’t working out, a couple of DT’s were cut this year and the Colts are still looking outside for a DT?
What happened to Antonio Johnson?
Can’t they take another look at the DT’s they just cut this fall?
This problem was supposed to have been taken care of.
This doesn’t speak well for the Colts drafting ability.

by centauri on Oct 18, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Seymour would be nice

But Marcus Stroud would be way better. Bills are rebuilding and are in need of draft picks. Another pipe dream but I’m just throwing ideas out there. We all know Polian likely will not trade for a marquee player. He may pick someone up we know little about. i.e. Justin Tryon.

18>12

by metallicolts on Oct 18, 2010 9:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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