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NFL Armageddon 2010: Colts V. Patriots

Seriously, at what point do we get the friggin Lions and the useless Cowboys off the usual Thanksgiving Day plate of NFL games and get Patriots v. Colts as an annual Turkey Day game. Is there a more anticipated game each and every year? Does this game not always generate the best TV ratings? Would you rather see (arguably) the two best franchises in the NFL the last ten years, or a Cowboys team that has won one playoff game since Bill Clinton's first term in office?

November football is defined by the Patriots and Colts, regardless of record. Everyone else is the undercard.

Star-divide

There will be plenty of time tomorrow for Matt Grecco to dive into the guts of his Thursday previews. for this little post, we talk about the legacy of Pats v. Colts. Many are unwilling to admit this, but the New England v. Indianapolis rivalry is the biggest in professional sports. Yankees v. Red Sox, Celtics v. Lakers, Browns v. Steelers, Chiefs v. Raiders, Cubs v. Cardinals, Rangers v. Islanders, Duke v. UNC, and even Indiana v. Purdue are all secondary to a modern rivalry that has helped put pro football on top as THE game for American audiences.

I'm sure fans of those other rivalries will disagree. No offense, but the numbers say Pats v. Colts is THE modern sports rivalry.

It all starts with the quarterbacks. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of his generation, and possibly the best ever. Even though Tom Brady has two more championship rings, people today do not talk about Brady as being in the same class as Peyton. For one, Peyton has an NFL record four league MVPs. For years, Patriots fans scoffed at such accolades, saying championships made one player better than the other.

This argument goes out the window when you consider that Terry Bradshaw has four rings.

But what has made Brady v. Manning so special is not solely the fan rivalry. I mean, all of us could debate until the end of time the merits of both players. What has been especially enjoyable for someone like me to watch is seeing all the false myths Pats fans held onto in regards to Peyton Manning blow up in their faces. Now, when I talk to most Pats fans about Manning and the Colts, I don't get the usual 'He's a Chokah!' vomit tossed in my face.

Today, for the most part, Pats fans given Peyton the respect he's always deserved much the same way we Colts fans have always respected Brady. Of course, going 5-1 against the Patriots over the last five years certainly can go a long way to changing people's perceptions of a player and a team. It also helps when you see both players, who are fast friends, show mutual respect towards one another.

One of the funniest stories I've ever read regarding Brady was his first meeting with Peyton. I remember that game well as a fan. The 2001 Colts were facing a Patriots team the week after Drew Bledsoe had his chest crushed by Jets linebacker Mo Lewis. Starting in his place was this nobody kid from Michigan who was drafted in the sixth round. PFT elaborates [emphasis mine]:

Brady wasn’t a particularly well known player at the time, while Manning was already a two-time Pro Bowler, so Brady thought it was sort of unnecessary for Manning to tell him his name.

"My first start came against the Colts," Brady said. "And Peyton came over on our
field and said, ‘Hey, Peyton Manning.’ And I said, ‘no shit.""

Since that first meeting, Brady said, he’s come to admire Manning as both a person and a quarterback.

"I’m always keeping up on Peyton," Brady said. "We talk from time to time and I have a lot of respect for him as a player, for the role model he is, the way he carries himself, the way he leads his team, the way he’s a representative for the league."

In many ways, both players represent two sides of the same coin when it comes to how one can 'make it' in the NFL. Manning comes from a family with deep roots in the NFL. His father was a great QB in his day (better than Bradshaw). His brother, Eli Manning, is a top tier NFL QB. Like Eli, Peyton was drafted #1 overall, which (along with tens of millions of dollars) comes the burden of carrying an entire franchise on his shoulders. no player has come into the NFL with more expectations than Peyton Manning. Every little mistake has always been scrutinized. Every instance when he is shown to be human demonized.

Remember Bradshaw acting like an ass on FOX after Manning spoke about his offensive line following the playoff loss to the Steelers?

Remember when people said he couldn't beat [insert team name here]?

Remember when he couldn't win a 'big game?'

Remember after seeing him do so, the definition of a 'big game' kept changing?

Thirteen years later, the man has won a ring, four league MVPs, a Super Bowl MVP, and will likely retire holding every meaningful passing record in the books. Defensive coordinators fear his name. Future Hall of Fame coaches like Bill Belichick don't talk about matching wits with people like Jim Caldwell. They talk about matching wits with Manning.

While we have seen many other #1 overall picks bust out (with names like David Carr, JaMarcus Russell, and Tom Couch) Peyton Manning is a rare example of a highly touted player actually delivering on his hype.

Contrast this with Tom Brady, who is a living symbol of how vital the NFL draft is after the first round. Prior to Brady, fans and media alike did not give two craps about who their team drafted in later rounds. Today, fans talk about how some kid from such-and-such state college in Nowheresville, CA could be 'the next Tom Brady.'

Brady came into this league without anyone expecting him to amount to anything, including the people who drafted him. Brady was always seen as someone who could, if he were lucky, work his way into the back-up role for Drew Bledsoe. He was the equivalent of Curtis Painter for the Patriots back then. Heck, at the start of the season, he was the equivalent to Tom Brandstater due in part because Bledsoe was (at that time) the unquestioned starter and his back-up was Damon Huard.

But, in typical Tom Brady fashion, he worked his ass off to not just become better than Huard and Bledsoe, but better than just about everyone else playing.

Consider that, prior to Tom Brady falling into his lap, Bill Belichick was considered a joke as a head coach. He wasn't viewed any different in 2001 (before Tom Brady developed into a championship-winning QB) as Eric Mangini of the Browns is today. Now, people talk about ole Bill in the same breath as Hallas, Lombardi, and Landry.

Prior to working with Peyton Manning, former-Colts coach Tony Dungy had a reputation for knowing nothing about offense.

Great QBs have a knack for making the people around them look very, very good.

As we gear up for yet another November meeting between the Patriots and the Colts, I really hope everyone here takes a second to appreciate just how amazing and special this rivalry is. Ten years from now, both Peyton and Tommy will be retired as players. The rivalry will change, and possibly dilute back to what it was before 18 and 12 strapped on helmets and directed no-huddle offenses to glory.

Like all great things, this rivalry will, one day, end. We should all enjoy it, every last bit of it, while it is still here.

Go Pats! Go Colts!

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Yea I wouldn’t mind a change from the Dallas/Detriot games. Even though Detriot could be a young exciting team in the next few years. I’m just so sick of anything to do with the Cowboys

by g7on on Nov 17, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Judging by their performance this year,

I’d say the Cowboys are also sick of anything to do with the Cowboys as well.

by ActionOxford on Nov 17, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

@ActionOxford

ROFL

Colts fan since Tony Dungy's 48th Birthday.

by ColtsFan504 on Nov 18, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Fabulous post

You really captured this rivalry well. I was harsher on Brady before Mannin won a SB…definitely jealousy. While I hope he matches him in rings someday, I’m at least more comfortable as a Colts fan respecting Brady and the Pats.

Also, this game is interesting because the casts around the QBs has changed a lot since the beginning of this rivalry.

by cmbeck82 on Nov 17, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Best post I've seen from you

I’ve been vocal about my distaste for your articles, but this was outstanding. Once you get past the “shocking” claim at the beginning (apples/oranges-hard to compare), you really tell the story well.

by Naptime! on Nov 17, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Thank you

SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.

by Brad Wells on Nov 17, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously

I agree. I expected another nethanderal-esk bashing of the Pats (and I’m sure someone will post them in the coming days), but you really did an outstanding job capturing the heart of it.

by Don Brown's Grandkid on Nov 17, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not getting my

hopes up for this one. I am proud of the Colts for getting this far with their bad luck of injuries. The beating the Pats with half a roster is asking a bit much. I am more concerned with them getting everyone back for the playoffs and being ready for that. We will probably be on the road some where cold this year for the playoffs (unless something drastic happens in NY, Pittsburgh, or NE). Nevertheless if there’s anything good out of all of this its the fact that we may have found our best set of linebackers since the days of Coryatt, Trev Alberts and Jeff Herod. I like Angerer and Conner a lot. They both got some pop to them.

by Indyshockwave on Nov 17, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Great, great post.

I just don’t like something:

“Go Pats!”
Ugh.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
I really, REALLY miss Bob Sanders. One of my favorite players (in any sport) of all time.

by BlueMark1821 on Nov 17, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

This post

Reduced my BBS antipathy significantly

by Macy_Blue on Nov 17, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

i will always remember how electric the stadium was when we stopped the pats on fourth and two and after the game winning touchdown. too bad i had to be at the game with my ex lol.

by Jaysin on Nov 17, 2010 12:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

How about that feeling immediately before the 4th and 2 -

 - when everyone, on both sides, realized he was going to go for it. Talk about stomach churning anxiety!

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 17, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a very tangible feeling...

 that this game is going to MAKE our season. Just LOOK at Manning on the sideline after the Win. He is hyped up. Our team is hyped up. We knew we were superbowl bound.

I started off this week VERY pessimistic looking at this weekend. But now I feel rejuvenated with Colts love…

We’re going to win this game, and it’s going to pave our way to Dallas.

by NanceyBoy on Nov 17, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

Best game I’ve ever seen live was last year’s Colts/Pats matchup. I’m in total agreement. Nothing in today’s sports world lives up to Colts vs. Patriots. I still have no idea why it’s the late CBS game this year, but with no other CBS games at that time, it’s pretty much a national broadcast.

by EddieDean on Nov 17, 2010 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

Since CBS is an AFC affiliate

They’re going to want this game as much as NBC wants it. The 2007 game that had both teams undefeated was aired late on CBS with no other game.

They’ve jawed over it for a few years now, if I recall, CBS was angry one year that NBC flexed it to Sunday Night Football.

by Nathan S. on Nov 17, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If NBC/ESPN had the choice

It’d be the Sunday or Monday Night game every year. It’s only fair to split it up among the different stations to allow each to broadcast it and pull in the gigantic ratings it will generate nationwide.

by strootster on Nov 18, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I love this rivalry

I literally don’t sleep the night before and usually the night after. I’m anxious all day, checking websites for stats and injuries, and pacing around.

Good times.

Reality is a matter of opinion.

by MaPatsFan on Nov 17, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

@MaPatsFan

You and me both buddy, its like no other game in the season matter but this one.

Colts fan since Tony Dungy's 48th Birthday.

by ColtsFan504 on Nov 18, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Howard Mudd

Um, did anyone else catch Howard Mudd jumping up and down in the background at 0:32 into the youtube video? Hilarious. Actually with energy like that maybe we should sign him, not as a coach, but as a lineman. He’s probably got good technique.

by reddogfred on Nov 17, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

LETS GO!!

i live 45 mins from foxboro i will be dere in my MVPEYTON SHIRT!!!!!! ive been waiting since the 05 monday night game to watch tha colts play again i cant wait!!!!!

by #93 best ever! on Nov 17, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Nice...

I live in Massachusetts as well…don’t have game tickets, but knowing these Massholes, stay safe! hahaha

GO COLTS

"I’m very fast. I’m like Forest Gump except... I am not an idiot." - Michael Scott

by Z.Pain on Nov 17, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take Brady's 14-4 playoff record over Manning's 9-9 any day

Yes, and the 4 SB appearances too. I know you all put more stock in regular season wins, but that’s fine. Don’t mind Peyton winning that stat at all.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 17, 2010 2:51 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Nothing personal

But your defense was more of what your team dominant through those 3 SB runs….Still, you have 3 rings….no one can take that from him…

by DevilsReject on Nov 18, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're talking about playoff records and regular season records...

Shouldn’t you take into account when this game is being played? Hint: it’s not the playoffs.

You can use whatever stats you’d like in the debate over Manning vs. Brady/Pats dominating defense. For now, we’re talking about one game — one HUGE regular season game — which will likely have a significant impact on where playoff games are played next January.

by strootster on Nov 18, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah!

Thanks! Cuz we yuk-yuks here in the Midwest think that the games are played with just two quarterbacks and no one else on the field! I sure hope Peyton can throw the ball over Tom’s head and catch the game-winning TD for himself! Now back to my trailer to eat my mayonnaise sandwich, kiss my sister, and fawn over Brady’s stellar playoff record.

by session55 on Nov 17, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

"...we Colts fans have always respected Brady."

We Germans have always been fond of the jews.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 17, 2010 4:53 PM EST reply actions   4 recs

One of the joys...

of being a Colts fan, is having an worthy opponent as an arch-nemesis who isn’t no longer in the same division as you, and what trips me out is that it took 2 QBs to make one of the best rivalries in sports history.

I, myself has ton of respect for Tom Brady, simply because the man has come from being a nobody to one of the most cerebral QBs ever, not to mention you have a guy who was at one time a third string QB and 6th round draft pick going neck-to-neck with a guy who might be the greatest QB this sport will ever witness.

Colts fan or not, how can you not respect Tom Brady? ( I didn’t say you have to like the guy)

Great post BBS, all good and wonderful things must come to an end, and like this good and wonderful rivalry, it will eventually come to an end.

GO COLTS and thanks alot to the Patriots for giving us a great showdown.

Colts fan since Tony Dungy's 48th Birthday.

by ColtsFan504 on Nov 18, 2010 9:02 AM EST reply actions  

Amped for this one ALL week

Pats must be favored at home…. what’s the line? I hate the injuries, but really don’t mind that under doggy feeling for some reason. The Patriots are ripe for a let down after taking it to the Steelers last week. GO COLTS

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Nov 18, 2010 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

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