MVP Talk: Get Off Mike Vick's Jock Edition
by TouchdownColts on Nov 17, 2010 9:12 PM EST
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I created this post frankly because all the Mike Vick MVP talk is nauseating. Since when does one quarter of a seasons work constitute MVP talk? Michael Vick has only played roughly 5 games all year; I discount week 4 because he didn't play the whole game and only threw a total of 7 passes, ironically it was his best completion percentage game of the year at 71.4%, but 5 of 7 does not impress me. As impressive as the rest of his games has been (although I highly doubt he continues to play at this level), there are several reasons as to why the NFL would never award the MVP to Mike Vick. Comeback Player possibly, Offensive Player eh maybe, but MVP NEVER!
Great play or not you can't award a Felon this trophy, as it will destroy any and all integrity the NFL has built. I am all for second chances and IMO he has that by being allowed to come back and play in the NFL, but to call this clown the Most Valuable Player would be like spitting in the face of all the good guys that play in the league.
One retort I heard was if this is your line of thinking then
take all those Defensive POY trophies away from Ray Lewis considering he MURDERED AN ACTUAL HUMAN BEING!!!!"
I would not stripped Ray Lewis of any of his awards because the difference between Mike Vick and Ray Lewis is that Vick was CONVICTED and ADMITTED to his offenses and Ray Lewis was acquitted of murder meaning legally he had nothing to do with it. Although, Vick murdered, tortured and financed the murdering and torturing of well over 400 innocent dogs.
And then I heard
Lol its funny how all y'all ppl are hatin on vick 4 dog fighting but donte stallworth killed a MAN and served no jail time but no one seems to remember that dumb asses
Understand that Dante Stallworth is not a candidate for MVP and if he was people would not agree with that as well. Again, I am for the second chance. The NFL is the most popular sports league in the US, and millions of children look up to these guys as role models, whether they like it or not. Sorry Chuck. You can not give a felon the MVP, because it is the most prestigious award of the most popular sport in our society; it sends the wrong signal. Think about the kids. Like I said before, if this was to happen the NFL would lose all integrity and with that fans.
Plus, Vick has only played roughly 5 out of 9 games this season, and to be the MVP of the league you must perform for the whole season. Vick has not done this and I don't believe he will continue to play at this level. Once opposing defenses breakdown the film and game-plan against him, remember other than these 5 games and a couple plays last year all game tape is dated at over 2 years for this guy, I believe defenses will adjust. Vick fans enjoy it why you can, because it will not last.
Now, let's compare this years numbers of Vick vs. Manning (the GOAT)
First Vick's Numbers:
Now Manning's numbers for the year:
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- You can see Peyton has thrown almost twice as many passes with still a two percent higher completion rating.
- Also through the full 9 games Manning has 93.9 rating and Vick's is higher at 115, but remember he has only played half the games this year as Peyton.
- This probably also explains why Vick has no interceptions up to this point, because again he has only played half as much as most starting QB.
- As much as people think Mike Vick looked great against Washington (and he did) it was actually his worst QB rating game of the year.
- While playing in more games Manning has managed to get sacked less times.
Look I am not bashing or hating on Mike Vick; I just don't think he needs to be canonized as the MVP. I did not type this because I am a "jealous Colts fan" or because we lost to the Eagles, but because Mike Vick has once again turned into this media orgy that only the like of Brett Favre can reach. It makes me sick, even worse is the fact that children will worship this guy and with the atrocity of his actions it can never be forgotten. NFL please keep your integrity and do not allow this clown the MVP!
Thank you.
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I dont mind Vick winning the MVP
So far this decade, MVP winners have not won a superbowl title.
by metal_militia on Nov 17, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You're info is wrong
The Washington game was Vick’s highest QB Rating in a game and your own stats prove it. (His rating was 150.7) I think he us the front-runner at this point. Look at Steve McNair in 2003. He only started 14 games but he shared the MVP Award with Peyton Manning. Yet unlike McNair, who really didn’t deserve the Award and if they were going to give Co-MVPs than Manning and Priest Holmes should have shared the award, Vick is playing out of his mind right now. He is averaging 260 yards per game in games he’s finished and has a QB Rating of 115.1. Plus he leads the NFL in yards per carry and has yet to throw an interception. Vick is the front-runner for MVP like it or not. But it’s only Week 9. Manning wasn’t even in the MVP conversation at this point in 2008, yet he still went onto win the Award. Let the season play out.
Oh and about the NFL sending a bad message by giving the MVP to Vick b/c he’s an ex-con, last I checked OJ Simpson is still in the Hall of Fame.
"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning
by P0RKINS2 on Nov 18, 2010 2:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions
You are right and I was wrong about Wash...I was looking at the wrong lines
In regards to OJ, he made the HOF before he was convicted of any crime, remember he was acquitted of murder and if I am not mistaken he was barely sentenced this year for his current charges and He was not a current player when he committed his crimes same with LT. I don’t think you can take something away from someone based on what they have done after they played in the league, however I do believe you can prevent it. Plus, like it or not everything is topical OJ and LT are no longer topical, but Vick is and his crime was as recent as 2 years ago, while he was one of the leagues highest paid players. Regarding McNair you said he played 14 games, but if Vick was to play out the season he still would not reach the 14 game mark.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
This by far is
the most ridiculous report I’ve seen yet. You are extremely close to being racially biased with you opinion.I don’t know what rock you’ve been hiding under but you definitely are making unfounded assumptions in your so-called “analysis.” Instead of telling others to get off of Vick’s jock, why don’t you take a dose of your own medicine and quit riding Manning’s jock strap. You’ve got your head so far up Manning’s gluteus you could probably tell us all what he ate for dinner last night. You’re obviously a Vick “hater.” Vick has just as much chance to win (and deservedly so) the MVP as anybody. You can hate him all you want for any of you illegitimate reasons, but you can’t deny his skill set and what he’s done on the field. I don’t give a d@mn if it has been only six games. THE MAN IS PLAYING GOOD BALL. For those of you who think “the rest of the league will eventually figure him out” are in for a rude awakening. In case you haven’t noticed, Vick knows how to read defenses and pass the ball accurately now. Many of us are getting sick of all you racist Vick bashers. There is a reason why you aren’t NFL analysts and are blogging BS on this site instead. Stick to football and check your racial bias sickness at the door.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 18, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, nothing I said is even remotely racial, in fact I am the farthest thing from it
I am in a bi-racial marriage with a daughter. You sir are a jerk for making your uniformed bias about me. I just hate the fact that the guy has only played well for 6 games and people are all over him. But racial I am far from it!
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
So what
if he’s only only played 6 games! He’s looked good in all 6 games, and I don’t care if you are in a “bi-racial” marriage. You sound just like the right wingers who pull the “I voted for Colin Powell so don’t call me a racist” card. Your “Bi-racial marriage” doesn’t give you a free get out of jail card on the subject. Nor does it erase the obvious racial undertones that drive your position on Vick. Do you think Vick invented dog-fighting? FYI the sport has an over 200 year history in this country. You don’t give a d@mn about those dogs anymore than the next man. <strong>If you did why they hell did you wait to voice your opinion about it until after a high-profile African American athlete gets “caught-up” in it? Why aren’t you saying anything about the men who invented the sport or the ones who are still involved in it? Why aren’t you saying anything about the race horses that are killed after they are deemed "useless"by their owners? Ffuck and your self-righteous attitude. You don’t decide who deserves the MVP and who doesn’t. I hope Vick does get it so people like your stupid @ss can blow a gasket and go jump off of a bridge. One less idiot in the world to listen too.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 18, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
So what
he’s only only played 6 games! He’s looked good in all 6 games, and I don’t care if you are in a "bi-racial" marriage. You sound just like the right wingers who pull the "I voted for Colin Powell so don’t call me a racist" card. Your "Bi-racial marriage" doesn’t give you a free get out of jail card on the subject. Nor does it erase the obvious racial undertones that drive your position on Vick. Do you think Vick invented dog-fighting? FYI the sport has an over 200 year history in this country. You don’t give a d@mn about those dogs anymore than the next man. If you did why they hell did you wait to voice your opinion about it until after a high-profile African American athlete gets "caught-up" in it? Why aren’t you saying anything about the men who invented the sport or the ones who are still involved in it? Why aren’t you saying anything about the race horses that are killed after they are deemed "useless"by their owners? I’m sick of people like you who can’t bring up Vick’s name w/out associating it with the dog-fighting incident. Ffuck you and your self-righteous attitude. You don’t decide who deserves the MVP and who doesn’t. I hope Vick does get it so people like your stupid @ss can blow a gasket and go jump off of a bridge. One less idiot in the world to listen too.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 18, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
You are an idiot.
This is a football blog and Vick is a football player not a horse racer. I have every right to voice my opinion and I never stated that he has played bad nor do I have any racial undertones you are inventing shit in your bipolar head. It has nothing to do with Vick being African American, I just stated that the NFL would lose integrity by giving an award to a felon, especially as sensitive as his offenses were and as recent. It seems to me as if you are the one dangling off a ledge with a blown gasket just calm the hell down it is just football.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
The NFL would
lose cred for giving it to a felon?Are you ffucking serious? I’ll let you in on a secret pal. The NFL was born through the hands of the world’s most ruthless felons. Who the ffuck do you think runs Vegas? Who do you think owns the banks? Oh I forgot, Your naive ass still reads “Dr Suess” before bed time every night while you’re still waiting for the tooth fairy. The sensitive nature of his offense? What makes his offense more sensitive than the offense going on against other animals other than dogs? The only people this subject is “sensitive” to are people who deem dogs as “mans best friend.” That’s some Caucasian cave dweller BS at it’s finest. I’m sorry but a woman is my best friend. You should try it some time instead of worshiping your fucking dogs. You people are pathetic. If a dog is the only thing you can get to be your “best friend” you have to be a freak of an individual. Normal human beings choose other human beings for that. Not dogs. BTW You claim to have “never stated that he has played bad” yet you say he shouldn’t get the MVP for only playing in 6 games. NO ONE HAS PLAYED BETTER THAN HIM IN 6 GAMES THEREFORE IF THE VOTING WENT DOWN TODAY VICK IS THE MVP HANDS DOWN. GET OVER IT.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 18, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. You must be off your meds.
You have some fine conspiracy theories there and you make no valid points, all you do is try to insult and belittle. If there was nothing wrong with killing dogs then there wouldn’t be a law against it would there? By the way you come across as a deprived 12 year old, because even in your defenses they make no sense at all. You are not educated and that is apparent. You live in some oppressed state and think everyone is holding you down. Guess what buddy you are not only narcissistic, but you show classic signs of depression and grandiose. The world does not own you anything. Take your meds and stay off your mommy’s computer.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Bit of advice TouchdownColts
This guy is absolutely not rational. Don’t expect logic or reason to affect him at all. Notice how quickly he breaks out the race card and conspiracy theories? Because his arguments are so bizarre and unhinged, I used to think he was a troll just trying to stir up trouble. But now I think he actually believes what he’s saying, which crosses the line from funny into sad.
Nothing's complicated if you understand it.
@ "ctnyc" My arguments
are bizarre and unhinged? I guess they would be to a dumb@ss couch potato like you who’s only knowledge of the real world is what you gather from the discovery channel and reality shows. I don’t have to prove a Godd@mn thing to you. You are the one accusing me of having “conspiracy theories” without presenting any evidence to back up your accusations. I’ve got all the information I need to back up what I said. I’ve done my homework. B!tch you go do yours. You have to prove that I’m wrong. Not the other way around. On the contrary you’re the irrational person in this conversation. You can’t even think for yourself because you’re a slave to the media and have no opinions of your own. For your sake I hope your grow up before you let another 20 years go by before you realize what a fool you are.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 19, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for proving my point
Nothing's complicated if you understand it.
And what point was
that? That you don’t have one? That’s what I thought. Go back to the quiet room you snuck out of. You sound a lot more intelligent when you keep your mouth closed.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 20, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
No really, everybody already knows I'm right
You don’t have to keep looking like an imbecile just to prove my point. I appreciate it and all, but it’s not necessary.
Nothing's complicated if you understand it.
Where in my conversation
did I ever say that dog fighting was ok? As far as your comment “If there was nothing wrong with killing dogs then there wouldn’t be a law against it would there?” Your law givers will give more jail time to tax evaders than they will murderers so you can take that preschool bS back to the bubble gum machine you got it from. You have the audacity to call me “uneducated” after the retarded logic you just posted to back your weak position? FYI there’s a difference between being “educated” and being “smart.” I’m smart. If you call your logic “educated” you’re an educated fool. Your attempt at using big words to insult me don’t fool me at what you’re really trying to accomplish: Avoiding my question because you have no answer for it. Nice try Ferris Beuler. Go eat some more Flintstones Vitamins before you come back ok?
by Indyshockwave on Nov 19, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Where in my conversation
did I ever say that dog fighting was ok? As far as your comment "If there was nothing wrong with killing dogs then there wouldn’t be a law against it would there?" Your law givers will give more jail time to tax evaders than they will murderers so you can take that preschool BS back to the bubble gum machine you got it from. You have the audacity to call me "uneducated" after the retarded logic you just posted to back up your weak position? FYI there’s a difference between being "educated" and being "smart." I’m smart. If you call your logic "educated" you’re an educated fool. Your attempt at using big words to insult me don’t fool me in what you’re really trying to accomplish: Avoiding my question because you have no answer for it. Nice try Ferris Beuler. Go eat some more Flintstones Vitamins before you come back ok?
by Indyshockwave on Nov 19, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Idiots at nfl.com
First voted Vick to the best QB (now), then voted him presumed first in the MVP voting.
As it is
hes playing better then Manning. He isnt passing as well as Manning (but his stats are up there) but he has the added ability to rush that Manning just doesnt have.
Hank Baskett IS A WANKER
I just used Manning as comparison as this is a Colts fan site, but
there are a handful of other guys who have been playing great and played all year.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Vick's athletic ability and newfound dedication to the game
are giving him some great results right now. However, defenses in the league will figure out how to defend him sooner rather than later and he’ll come back down to Earth. Meanwhile, they’ve had 13 years to figure out how to defend P.M. and haven’t done it yet. As far as the dog fighting mess, IMHO he’s paid his debt and deserves whatever he can make for himself the second time around.
"There was some talk: do they take me or Ryan Leaf and I said: 'Look, here's the deal. If you don't take me, I'm gonna kick your butt for the next fifteen years'."- #18
I agree
When he starts showing he can put together these complete games against better defenses, I’m all for giving him MVP type credit. I watched the game and could not believe how poorly prepared the Redskins looked. That was by far one of the lousiest defensive performances by any team I’ve seen this season. Teams will adjust defensively and play Vick better as the season goes on, it is hard to see him keeping this up. Then again, maybe his new found ability to read the defense and sit in the pocket to make throws has made him the complete threat at the QB position.
That said… people need to really just enjoy what Vick is doing. The guy is a serious talent and can do things that may never be replicated… ever.
by nickfromnaptown on Nov 18, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Vick
Appears to be finally using the god given talent that he’s wasted for the first part of his career…. that being said…
He’s had an opportunistic schedule with a healthy team. For the most part, when he’s played, they’ve beaten the teams they should have beaten. We’ve seen him do this in the past. However, the teams that are good and can play defense are the teams he traditionally struggles against…
He will not win the MVP, of that you can be guaranteed. I don’t even think he’ll win Comeback Player of the Year, as that may very well go to Mike Williams in Seattle…
Dude you are smoking
crack if you think Mike Williams will get the MVP before Vick will. He’s not going to be in the conversation when it’s all said and done.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 18, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Umm
Did you even learn to read? Where does Comeback Player of the Year = MVP?
Considering what Mike Williams is doing in Seattle, compared to his entire career before then, absolutely he’s in the discussion for CPOY. As for Vick, it’s not like he left for an injury or a bad year….he was arrested and thrown in jail…
by DevilsReject on Nov 18, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
So he was in jail
And that gets him out of the CPOY roll? Come on… Dude is redempting himself, doing what everyone expected him to do when he got in the league, and the CPOY will go to… Mike Williams. NO WAY!
My nickname is trOOly, but believe me: I'm not a troll.
"An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today." - Laurence J. Peter
The difference
Is that unlike Vick, Williams never experienced “stardom”.
Vick was the NFL’s highest paid player, the face of a franchise……and he shit on it all…
Williams on the other hand, was a talented WR who went to a bad team, never lived up to his potential for a variety of reasons, and was back working a normal job…..
I also said “I THINK”… as in MY OPINION….
Never once stated that because he went to jail he didnt deserve it…. but here’s the thing….. what exactly is he coming back from?
The NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award has been given out after every season since 1972 (except for 1985) by Pro Football Weekly. The player named Comeback Player of the Year shows perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance. Beginning in 1992 the Pro Football Writers of America and Pro Football Weekly combined for their awards, including the comeback player of the year, and it continues to this day.
Vick played last year….and he wasn’t overcoming adversity….he was lucky to even be allowed to play…
by DevilsReject on Nov 18, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Vick was a backup last year and this year as well
And now he’s taken the #1 spot. And when he comes back from prison and gets a real chance on turf, there he is, throwing all over the field posting huge numbers. How it isn’t a comeback?
My nickname is trOOly, but believe me: I'm not a troll.
"An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today." - Laurence J. Peter
Read the factors for CPOY.
in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.
Vick was in the league last year. No severe injury. Not getting to play isn’t poor performance it’s no performance. If he did this last year you’d have a point, but should we consider every backup that gets a chance to start as CPOY?
by ActionOxford on Nov 19, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Which
Is why he should not be in the running….. almost every winner in the last decade has come off an injury plagued year…..
Plus, Vick was a star who only was out of the league because of criminal issues, not his play on the field.
by DevilsReject on Nov 19, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Mike Williams plays in
Seattle. The fish market in that city is more well known than the team and it’s players. Thats’ why he won’t get the CPOY. Stick to your cartoons Einstein.
by Indyshockwave on Nov 18, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Commish Goodell seems to be doing his part setting him up for CPOY
Vick’s a second-chance, “inspriational” story that’s been gift wrapped for the PR-conscious NFL. And Goodell’s “everyone deserves a second chance” made it all happen. He keeps this level of play up and you can bet no one will be worrying whether ‘comeback’ technically applies to him or not. He’s too good a story for the NFL not to promote.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5821901
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"Mandrake, have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?"
by Via_Chicago on Nov 18, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bingo
That’s the only reason this is even a story…
by DevilsReject on Nov 19, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
As of right now
Vick’s play presents a strong case for him. But the same can be said for 4-5 other players too. He’s served his time and (I hope) has learned from his mistakes. I am rooting for him, not to dice up our secondary, but to do well as a man.
As for the criminal thing, some may disagree with me, but when it comes down to FOOTBALL PLAY on the field, I could care less what a player does off the field. Give me #18 and Ray Lewis, Rae Carruth, OJ, Leonard Little, Lawrence Phillips, the Blades brothers, etc. If the end result is a championship, then I am happy. Hell, if Kim Jong Il could beat a double team and hold onto the ball, I’d start him over PG in a heart beat. Disclaimer: I don’t have kids. My opinion is subject to change in the future.
As for all the hype and talk, I agree one game or a few doesn’t make an MVP season. But sadly, it’s a SportsCenter-run world. The mute button on your remote is your best friend. Mid-season predictions are just wasteful banter for the mainstream. It’s silly entertainment. Why do people prognosticate before the season even begins? Why are there draft boards? Why do we fill out NCAA brackets?
At the end of the season, we will see where Vick stands along with guys like Brady, Rivers, Clay Matthews, and of course, #18. When Indy finishes a top the AFC South with a first round bye, it will be tough to vote against Peyton once again considering the circumstances. Oh God, did I just make a mid-season prediction?
For the record
Vick didn’t “torture, mangle”, or “kill” any dogs. His so-called “friends” did. His only crime in all of this is him allowing those so-called friends use one of his houses to do it. You need get your Godd@mn facts straight before you print garbage like this. You don’t have any evidence or a single report that shows proof the Vick participated in (or even showed up for that matter) to one of these “dog torture” events. Until you do that, STFU about it. We are interested in FOOTBALL, Not PETA parties ok? Dumb@ss idiots like you will raise hell over your d@mn dogs but you won’t say sh!t about the government committing genocide on 3rd world countries, and taxing the poor more than they do the rich. Get off you’re high horse. Your self righteous arrogance is nauseating.
Maybe you should know your facts
after he plead GUILTY to DOGFIGHTING it was posted in the NY Times
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
This means he was involved with or financed the act of
killing, torturing, and mangling animals and he had knowledge of it!
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously you are uneducated and you portray yourself that way...
and based on your comments you know nothing of football or politics so if anybody was self righteous sir it would be you.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Pot, meet kettle
You know what is a great example of self righteous arrogance? Assuming that you know what complete strangers do or don’t “say shit” about when they’re not on this particular Colts blog.
Nothing's complicated if you understand it.
i think that's low
he shouldn’t get the mvp because of his past mistake…he has already paid for it by the system. this is football not politics.
Let's cool it
Let’s cool it on the name-calling and racial stuff, OK?
Also, for the record:
Federal investigators, responding to a Freedom of Information Act request by WSB-TV’s Scott MacFarlane, have revealed Vick personally killed at least seven of his fighting dogs by hanging or drowning. They also revealed Vick failed police polygraph tests in which he denied killing animals.
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Link
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/18048882/detail.html
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It's Most Valuable Player, not 'Most Saintly Person'
I don’t like what he did or how he chose to spend his free time, but he was punished, did his time, and is now playing well. Can’t talk about MVP after 5 games? If I remember correctly ESPN and/or SI.com started running their ‘Who the MVP ?’ stories sometime around week 5.
Of course Peyton would make a much better MVP.
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"Mandrake, have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?"
Yeah but is he most valuable? I would argue that because they have a more than
capable back up QB, so if Vick goes down their team is still probably good enough to make the playoffs. So IMO he is not most valuable. Peyton on the other-hand if he goes down no chance in hell Colts make the playoffs. Just saying.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I was commenting on:
Great play or not you can’t award a Felon this trophy
Much of your argument seemed to be focused on him being a ‘felon’ and how that should automatically disqualify him. As for him being “most valuable”, I certainly think it’s legit that’s he’s in the discussion. If he keeps up how he’s playing now, then I would think he’ll be right there on the short list.
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by Via_Chicago on Nov 18, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
That is also why I mention he would probably be a good candidate for
Comeback Player or Offensive Player but not MVP
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Florio doesn't seem to think Vick should be MVP either...
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions
here is the link to florio's article
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Nov 18, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
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