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How Important Are Brody Eldridge And Mike Hart To Colts Running Game? Answer: VERY!

INDIANAPOLIS - NOVEMBER 01:  Mike Hart #32 of Indianapolis Colts runs with the ball during  the NFL game against the Houston Texans  at Lucas Oil Stadium on November 1 2010 in Indianapolis Indiana.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

I touched on this in my last article, and now I'd like to flush it out (or 'flesh it out,' depending on what you think of me as a writer) a little bit.

During this 1-3 stretch, the Colts have run the ball 74 times for 233 yards at a 3.1 yards-per-rush average. In the four games prior to this stretch, the Colts ran the ball 107 times for 432 yards at a much more respectable 4 yards a carry.

They were 3-1 in that stretch, with the one loss being that Jaguars miracle 59-yard FG in Week Four.

Lots of injuries occurred between those two stretches, but arguably the to most significant were to blocking tight end Brody Eldridge and running back Mike Hart. With them, Indy was able to run the ball.

Without them... ugh.

Star-divide

Prior to getting injured during the Colts' Week eight victory over the Texans, Mike Hart was averaging 5.2 yards a rush behind, essentially, the same Colts offensive line that has looked so putrid the last four games. Assisting Hart during that stretch was blocking tight end Brody Eldridge, who was also injured in that Texans game.

You might recall that after both those guys left the Texans game, which was broadcast on ESPN's Monday Night Football, color analyst Jon Gruden noted just how poor the Colts run game was performing.

Since that game, and since both Hart and Joseph Addai were knocked out with various injuries, back-up Donald Brown (first round pick in 2009) has averaged roughly two yards less per carry than Hart behind the same o-line, sans Brody Eldridge. Now, it's been fashionable for blowhards like me to bash Brown this year because, quite frankly, he's been a big disappointment. When you're a runningback drafted in the first round, you're expected to make an immediate impact. Donald hasn't done that, unless you think a career rushing average of 3.5 a carry and four TDs is 'making an impact.'

But, in Donald's defense, it might not be all his fault.

Recently, Bill Polian spoke about Donald on his Monday radio show, and had this to say about the disappointing second-year back:

Donald is a stretch-play runner, which used to be the staple of our offense. He's an outside-the-tackles runner, basically. He's a really good pass-catcher, very good in space. He's a good finisher and he has really good ability to slash – and good vision. He is much more like a Dominic Rhodes than he is Shonn Green (of the New York Jets), for example. If you ask him to run a belly play straight-ahead and you don't get anybody blocked in the middle of the line, then he's not going anywhere. Donald is 205 pounds, so he's not going to run over anybody. It looks ugly, but as I said, in that case, it's 90 percent blocking. The back has to have a place to run unless he's 255 pounds. And even in the case of their guy, who's a solid, hard-hitting, 240-pound back, he was getting two yards because Pat's (Angerer) collisioning him in the hole or Philip's (Wheeler) collisioning him in the hole. He's falling forward for two yards, so it wasn't like Donald was terrible. It's really a function of style. Mike Hart would be better-suited to that kind of game than Donald would be but, of course, we didn't have Mike.

Notice in Polian's comments how he indicates that the stretch run play is now in the past tense. The one-time staple of this offense, which Peyton Manning owes so many play action TD passes to, is now seemingly gone.

Why?

Well, as Polian seems to suggest, our 'new' offensive line can't block the stretch play anymore. The irony here is Ryan Lilja was outstanding at pulling out on stretch runs, but he's now doing that for the Chiefs, who are averaging 174 rushing yards a game this season. So, instead of stretch running, which is what Brown was pretty much drafted to do, the Colts are running belly plays straight-ahead, which are ideally suited for stronger backs like Addai and Hart. In addition, Brody Eldridge is a very good in-block blocker, suited for straight ahead runs.

Thus, Addai and Hart have great run averages while Brown struggles.

As Hart, Addai, and Eldridge come back, we should likely see the rushing averages improve. But, long term, what does this mean for Donald Brown? It seems as if his rushing style does not fit what the Colts do offensively anymore, which begs the question as to why he was drafted in the first place? Hart and Addai were already on the roster when Brown was drafted, and now both are much better 'fits' for this offense than Brown.

Other injuries have likely factored into the death of the stretch, such as the loss of Dallas Clark (who was excellent blocking on stretch runs). But, even when Clark was in there this year, the Colts weren't running the stretch and Brown wasn't averaging much behind this Colts line of blockers. It seems that the one thing Donald Brown was drafted to do is something the Colts don't do anymore.

FYI: Players Polian passed on to take Donald Brown include center Eric Wood, offensive tackle Eben Britton, defensive tackle Ziggy Hood, and wideout Hakeem Nicks. All are starters for their respective teams now, and all are playing well. Just saying.

I realize hindsight is 20-20, but it is starting to look like yet another first round pick is not going to pan out for the Colts. In this case, it seems the player taken simply doesn't fit the system, and Bill Polian is paid lots and lots of money to make certain screw-ups like that don't happen. It's also unlikely that the transition from head coach Tony Dungy to Jim Caldwell last year, or from o-line coach Howard Mudd to Pete Metzelaars this year, affected the way Indy blocks today. Both transitions were planned years in advance.

In any case, I'm going to refrain from bashing Donald Brown going forward. He has talent, but that talent cannot thrive within Indy's system as it is. It's a shame.

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And bad blocking on the stretch run

glad Hart and Eldridge back this week, Hart runs hard and has broken some tackles

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Dec 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

Lilja

everyone pissed about that one, a line good enough to get to the Superbowl and almost win it was not that horrible, and no upgrades were made only downgrades

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Dec 2, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

Linkenbach

He has been terrible. He has been the change of run blocking, alond with Eldridge. Seriously man, look at the tape, on a ton of rushes he gets hit before he gets a step or two in, or has time to react. You said it yourself, Eldridge helps with blocking, and Pollack was 5x better then Linkenbach at run blocking. It’s not all on Brown, it’s more on O-Line and Manning calling multiple run plays when they out number our linemen, and even saftey help.

by Candlebox on Dec 2, 2010 3:35 PM EST reply actions  

we are fuuuuuckkkkked never in my wildest did i think

mike fucking hart would be the lynchpin to our division race, somehow turning a blind eye to the end of the 1st half of the super bowl last year

by PeytonIsGOAT on Dec 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously

How much of the Brown bashing are we going to have to read? Is that the only thing you know how to write? Trust me everyone that comes to this site knows by now that you DO NOT like Brown no need in beating a dead horse my friend.

by Garland on Dec 2, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

BBS Doesn't Like Polian!

This is another JOKE of an article. Polian clearly states that unless you are a 250 lb. RB, you are not going to run over anyone. That a RB needs good blocking to be successful. (Who knew???)
He compares Brown to Rhodes, who in 2006, ran very well for us, especially between the tackles. Also, in 2008 when Dom returned, you, and others, were demanding that Rhodes be put ahead of Addai.
If Brown improves his pass-blocking, he will be exactly what a Colts RB should be; a 3 down back, who can break big plays in both the passing and running game.

Finally, give up on bashing Polian every chance you get, HE IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE! Why? Because he is still THE BEST GM IN FOOTBALL!

by ProfBeerMan on Dec 2, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Polian

Can I clarify something here, since you enjoy putting words in my mouth?

I don’t dislike Bill Polian as the president of this team. Being critical of someone doesn’t mean you dislike them, or you think they suck at their job. This week, I was critical of Peyton Manning because he played like crap against the Chargers. does that mean I think he sucks? Obviously not.

With Polian, I think he is a Hall of Fame personnel man. But, in recent years, his draft record has been very shotty. Ugoh and Pollak are both busts. Gonzalez hasn’t panned out. Jerry Hughes barely sees the field on defense or special teams. and now, Donald Brown (first round pick of 2009) is the third string running back.

That’s four years of awful drafting in the most critical round: The first one.

Now tell me, if I presented you the resume of a GM whose picks were as bad as that, but didn’t have the name ‘Polian’ on the resume, you’d likely tell me ‘That guy sucks!’ The last first rounder this guy hit on was Joseph Addai, and that was four years ago. And four years of busted first round picks might have something to do with that fact that we can block or stop the run.

Just so you know where I’m coming from, I am Colts first, everything else second. And Bill Polian is not bigger than the Indianapolis Colts. As Polian is known for doing, when players stop producing and start living off their reputation, he cuts them. What happens to Polian when he stops producing and is living off his rep?

Again, food for thought.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 2, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Edit

can’t block or stop the run, as opposed to ‘can block or stop the run.’

And no, I cannot edit comments, even as a site admin. That’s by design.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Except

you’re bashing Polian for taking Brown in the draft, while at the same time praising the skills of Mike Hart and Brody Eldridge.

Now, who drafted those two guys?

by Naptime! on Dec 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Drafting

Drafting guys like Mike Hart and Brody Eldridge helps, which is why you aren’t seeing me saying ‘FIRE POLIAN NOW!’ However, a team cannot afford to bust first rounders consistently, even if they do a decent job finding later round talent. First rounders are players you expect to start one day. Later round players are, generally, for depth, as both Hart and Eldridge are ‘depth players.’ Gonzo, Ugoh, Pollak, Hughes, and Brown were all drafted with the intention of them being starters or, at the very minimum, impact players. None are.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 2, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

and "shoddy," not "shotty." And article's 1st line should read "flesh it out," not "flush"

Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy

by zherebyonki on Dec 2, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

Thanks for the grammar notes.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 2, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mean it personally -- everyone needs an editor.

It’s impossible to edit one’s own stuff — the mind has blindspots.
Sorry if the comments are insufferable. I only mean to further knowledge, not demean. I do edit professionally and would be happy to help out from time to time.

Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy

by zherebyonki on Dec 3, 2010 4:19 AM EST up reply actions  

No worries

I truly meant thank you for the notes. I used to proof read professionally myself, but the blog world sort of pressures one to post quickly without much time to proof.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 3, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Words In Your Mouth?

Here are your words:
1. The one thing Polian could always hang his hat on was his skills at building rosters. However, in recent years, he’s been slipping in that department. If he is no longer a ‘master’ at player evaluation, what’s the point of retaining him as president of the Colts?
Did I misunderstand, or did you not just question why Bill Polian should be the president of the Colts going forward?

2. Great. Just what we need. A personnel head who makes decisions based on ego and a childish need to, in essence, make the nasty meanies look like poo-poo heads.
Here’s to hoping Kuharsky is off base with his sentiment. If he isn’t, then we have a toddler in the body of a 66-year-old man running our football team.

This is not being “critical”; this is being condescending and inflammatory. Kind of like when I called your article a “JOKE”. It was not “critical”, it was rude.

I have absolutely no problem (NONE), with you calling “a spade a spade”. In fact, I enjoy it. But, it drives me crazy (and many other fans of this site) when you stop being professional / critical, and start being childish / obnoxious. I would LOVE to see you, and many others in the non-mainstream media gain access to the Colts, but it is never going to happen when you continue to write in this fashion.

Regarding recent drafts –
2007 was BAD. However, Gonzalez still has time to prove he was worth a 1st Rd selection. When on the field, there is no question he is a good receiver, and good still develop beyond that. Ugoh was a killer for 07 and 08, although who knows how his career would have progressed if Glenn had not abruptly retired, and he was forced into the starting line-up to protect the most important player in the NFL. Like a MLB starting pitcher who gets rushed out to early in his career and never recovers.

2008 – Wheeler is starting (and improving). Hart is solid. Tamme is solid. Santi (when healthy) has been solid. Pollak has been disappointing, we will see what happens going forward, That is a solid draft considering where these players were selected. Again, the Ugoh trade, however, really hurts this year.

2009 – Brown is NOT a bust. He has had nagging injuries, and poor blocking. He will be a good RB for the Colts. Moala is starting and improving. Powers is starting, and arguably our best corner. Collie. McAfee (ignoring canal incident) has greatly helped our special teams play.

2010 – Hughes is an insurance policy. He is not going to see the field much playing behind two Pro Bowl DE’s. You know, as well as anyone, what happens to this team when it cannot rush the passer. If Hughes gets injured, because he is playing on special teams, well there goes the insurance policy. We need 2 healthy DE’s at the end of the year who can rush the passer. Angerer looks solid. Thomas / McClendon – who knows? Eldridge looks solid. Mathews is playing now and improving, and Conner looks very solid, both at LB and special teams.

Polian has had one terrible draft – 2007, the Ugoh debacle, which affected 2 drafts, and 3 years worth of trying to develop him into a legitimate LT. Pittcock looked like a player, then went AWOL. Gonzalez is a player, but has been extremely unlucky.

Lastly, just as you hold BP to a higher standard, we (Colts fans) hold you to a higher standard because you are a Colts fan. We want you to “critically” evaluate and report on our team, but we do not want you to childishly attack it or members of it. With a nod to Ron Burgundy, stay classy BBS, stay classy.

by ProfBeerMan on Dec 2, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, words in my mouth

1) Yes, you did misunderstand. The question posed in there is an honest one. I still consider Polian a good talent evaluator, but that is somewhat contingent on players like Brown and Hughes panning out. If both don’t, then I think Polian is not longer a ‘master.’

2) Calling articles ‘a joke’ is not constructive my friend, and borders on trolling. Just warning you. Notice how I say I hope Kuharsky’s comments are off base? I mean, seriously, if Paul is right and Polian is indeed making personnel decisions just to spite his critics, absolutely he should be fired. No question. There’s no defense for that level of arrogance and stupidity. I don’t think Polian is doing that. At least, I hope he isn’t.

Also, just FYI, calling me, or anyone else here ‘childish’ is going to quickly remove your posting rights. If you don’t like our writing, don’t read us. Leave the blog and go get your Colts news and info elsewhere. I am truly not interested in what you or anyone else wants me to write about. I write about what I want, when I want. If you think you can do a better job, if you want to see more ‘critical evaluation’ or reports on the team, kindly go form your own blog and have a nice day.

But don’t try to impose you own personal standards of what you think we should be writing here. If you like us, we welcome you. If you don’t, there’s other places out there where you can get your info. Or, you can form your own blog. I’d be happy to highlight it.

Thanks for your thoughts.

SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.

by Brad Wells on Dec 2, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, that didn't take long...

Look pal, you write a blog about the Colts, for Colts fans and fans of the NFL. You might want to consider what these people are interested in reading. I mean Polian doesn’t care what fans think of him, but at least he WANTS to put out a quality product that attracts fans to Colts games.

As for banning me from posting, because I used the word “childish”, if that is what you want to do so be it. If you want to take your ball and go home, that is fine with me. (I had admitted in my previous post, that calling your article a “JOKE”, was in fact rude and inflammatory.)

Finally, this site is part of SB Nation (You know, “Pro Quality. Fan Perspective. Your Town.”), which allows anyone to post comments. It is supposed to be an open forum to allow discussions and even disagreements. Every person who writes a post to this site can be criticized for their thoughts. If you don’t like it when people criticize your articles, stop writing for SB Nation, and go form your own “private” blog. That way you don’t ever have to worry about what people think of your articles, considering, as you put it so eloquently, “I am truly not interested in what you or anyone else wants me to write about. I write about what I want, when I want.” Or, a better plan might be, to just write your article and move on; then allow others to discuss, criticize, or defend your article.

With that, I bid you adieu.

by ProfBeerMan on Dec 3, 2010 4:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Criticism

I have absolutely no issue with people being critical of the substance of any article. But, that’s not specifically what you were doing, my friend. Having issues with your tone, and politely telling you to not belittle the writers on this site is different than me disagreeing with your opinion. Calling writers ‘childish’ or that their writing is a ‘joke’ does little to advance the discussion. In general, if you don’t like a writer or his work, don’t read him or this site. The whole point of comments is that they advance the discussion set down by the initial article, and you comments aren’t doing that.

So, please try and see the difference here. The criticism must be constructive. It must advance the discussion. You’re comments aren’t doing that. Hope you understand.

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by Brad Wells on Dec 3, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

on colts ol

ive got a suggestion, at end of season trade reggie for a two.Then use his salary to pay logan mankins,the best run blocking guard in the game.Then use our number one to draft a quality left tackle like derek sherrod.Ol GREATLY IMPROVED IN ONE YEAR.

by zorro7114 on Dec 2, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Then what?

Trading Reggie would put us in a situation that no one wants to see. Who could we rely on then? Pierre Garcon? The guy can’t catch a cold. Yes Austin Collie is a very good receiver but that would be just about all we had. We all know we can’t count on Gonzo to stay on the field and then we would be stuck with either some rookie wrs or some wr that has been kicked off of his current team. That would leave us with 2 quality receivers Collie and White, we need more than that to be effective with the style of offense we run. Reggie is too vital to our team just to get rid of.

by Garland on Dec 2, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

There's no quarantee that Mankins would play well with our scheme. I doubt he would even want

to be a Colts player. The coaches could wind up with an unmotivated, overpriced non-improvement. Reggie is too good to trade right now.

by coltsfoot85 on Dec 2, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Hart is the chip block champ!

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by RockyRippleColtsFan on Dec 2, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

on trading reggie

I think we cauld replace him with a high 2,that we would get back in return.Just think how much more productive our passing game would be with a good running game.Just some thaughts.

by zorro7114 on Dec 2, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Ya, a passing game with absolutely zero WRs who are sure handed, quick, and good route runners.

Sounds like a BRILLIANT idea. We’d have some who are one or two of those qualities, but none of the other Colts WRs have all three. Wayne is one of the top WRs in the nation. Trading him would mean I want a 1st rounder PLUS a proven WR.

Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.

by Sir Sci on Dec 2, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

reggie is the man

but that will be ‘was’ sometime, despite his great work ethic. i think it may’ve already started. we need to find another burner, more reliable than garcon. in fact , we have all the needs sir sci mentions and more. Elsewhere on this blog someone mentioned what the pats did for a couple of drafts, they reloaded with lots of picks. i think polian is too conservative too play gunslinger like that. it’s not our mentality. but i think we need to move in that direction.

by Bluetime on Dec 3, 2010 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

The stretch play has been dead since 2008. At first, it looked like Manning’s injury was the problem, but it hasn’t gotten any better in the 2 and a half years since. Offensive line play is the only explanation. I also question Brown’s vision. I have seen him run right into the back of a blocker on multiple occasions this year. He either doesn’t have the ability, the vision, or the awareness to bounce it to the outside when the hole is not there. To me, he runs like a 240 lb back without the power to back it up. I really like Addai’s total package. I defended him when a lot of people wanted Dom as the feature back. He is as good as it gets in protection and catching the ball. I do wish he would hit the hole a little quicker and harder, instead of dancing around. Hart is better at that, as was Rhodes. In fact, I would say Hart is a lot more like Rhodes than Brown is.

by mdorf4 on Dec 5, 2010 3:23 AM EST reply actions  

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