Shake's Pre-Combine Draft Board
by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 7:12 PM EST
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PrintWith the combine kicking off in less than 2 weeks (Feb 24th) it's draft season. To collect my thoughts, and give a overview of the drafts top prospects is the first edition of my Colts-Draft board. Rankings are based off my opinions of value, need and scheme fit. I'd characterize the Colts draft strategy early as BPA at an upgradable position and I ranked accordingly. Value's no good if it can't get off the field over the established talent on the roster and reaching for a player based off of which position has the greatest need gives you low talent classes. Looking at the positions where a top pick could make an impact and taking the player with the greatest value among those spots is a nice blend of BPA and needs style.
| Tier 1: | Dream On | ||||
| # | Player | Pos. | School | H/W | Notes |
| 1 | Ndamukong Suh | DT | Nebraksa | 6'4" 305lbs | The drafts' clear top prospect Suh is absurdly disruptive up the middle, racking up 161 tackes, 40 for a loss, 19.5 sacks and 3 INTs (2 returned for TDs!) the past two seasons. |
| 2 | Eric Berry | S | Tennessee | 5'11" 203lbs | A playmaker at safety coming from a Tampa-2 system under Monte Kiffin. Has the cover skills and physicality to play anywhere in the secondary. |
| 3 | Gerald McCoy | DT | Oklahoma | 6'4" 295lbs | Good enough to be the top DT in the draft most years, coming out this year makes him a consolation prize for a team dreaming of Suh, but whoever drafts him will be happy with what they got. |
| 4 | Rolando McClain | MLB | Alabama | 6'4" 248lbs | Elite MLB with the athleticism and great zone cover skills to appeal to a team that asks a lot from it's MLB in coverage. |
| 5 | Russel Okung | OT | Ok. State | 6'5" 300lbs | Top OT in the class, great pass pro skills and good in the run game. Not as heavy or strong as a few teams like, but more than enough size/strength for most. |
| 6 | Joe Haden | CB | Florida | 5'11" 190lbs | A top 10 pick who could be the only CB taken in the top 30-40 picks this year. |
| Tier 2 | Great Prospect, Wrong Position | ||||
| 7 | C.J. Spiller | RB | Clemson | 5'11" 197lbs | Blazing speed draws comparisons to Chris Johnson, he was an accomplished pass catcher and return man in college as well. Size hurts him running inside and pass blocking but makes the effort to partially offset the lack of bulk. |
| 8 | Jimmy Clausen | QB | Notre Dame | 6'3" 223lbs | Colts (and ND) Homer calls him a tall Drew Brees. |
| 9 | Sam Bradford | QB | Oklahoma | 6'4" 228lbs | A possible #1 overall pick if the shoulder that ended his '09 season checks out and the Rams insist on a QB. |
| 10 | Dez Bryant | WR | Ok. State | 6'2" 210lbs | Big, sure handed WR, but not a burner and needs more route running work. Suspended for the 2nd half of last year for lying to NCAA investigators about a meeting with Deion Sanders |
| # | Player | Pos. | School | H/W | Notes |
| Tier 3 | Doubtful to fall | ||||
| 11 | Derrick Morgan | DE | Georgia Tech | 6'4" 275lbs | Usually considered the top DE in the class, he was unimpressive in the 1 game I got to see him, but it might just have been an off day against elite competition. |
| 12 | Bryan Bulaga | OT | Iowa | 6'6" 304lbs | Some of the elite competition that made Morgan look unimpressive. Bulaga was affected for most of the season by a thyroid condition that cost him 3 games and messed with his weight. He struggled most of the year, but returned to his dominant 2008 self by the Orange Bowl |
| 13 | Brian Price | DT | UCLA | 6'1" 295lbs | Born to play the 3 tech. Price plays both the pass and the run well thanks to the quickness to shoot through the gap into the backfield. |
| 14 | Earl Thomas | S | Texas | 5'10" 195lbs | The McCoy to Eric Berry's Suh, Thomas is a great prospect how can do a lot of the same things, but isn't quite as good as super-elite prospect. |
| 15 | Anthony Davis | OT | Rutgers | 6'6" 330lbs | The mauler that the aforementioned teams unhappy with Okung's size dream of. Of course he comes with the requisite flaw of the type... weight issues. Is listed 34lbs lighter thanhe began his college career. Some concerns about inconsistent technique and effort. |
| 16 | Bruce Campbell | OT | Maryland | 6'7" 310lbs | Usually 1st round tackles are considered safe picks, but Campbell might be the biggest boom-bust prospect of the round. Ideal size and athleticism, but unpolished andinexperienced with a serious injury history. |
| 17 | Dan Williams | DT | Tennessee | 6'2" 329lbs | Most likely to land as a 3-4 NT, but he isn't the unathletic space eater usually associated with the position. Not much of a pass rusher, but can cover surprising amounts of ground in pursuit making him a possible 1 tech for a 4-3 team looking to anchor the middle of the line. |
| Tier 4 | Realistic ideals | ||||
| 18 | Charles Brown | OT | USC | 6'6" 298lbs | A converted TE who played LT at under 290lbs, his stock will be greatly effected by his combine weigh in. He's a great pass blocker, but needs to add weight strength for the run game and to fight off bull rushes. |
| 19 | Mike Iupati | OG | Idaho |
6'5" 325lbs |
A mauling guard with great athleticism. He's drawn comparisons to Chiefs G/LT Branden Albert. Iupati might be able to pass protect well at RT (and LT isn't totally out of the question), but he's considered a fantastic prospect at guard. |
| 20 | Jermaine Gresham | TE | Oklahoma | 6'6" 262lbs | Despite missing much of last season with a knee injury Gresham is still rated the top TE in the class. A good route runner with enough speed to get up the seam, solid blocker and nightmare to bring down once the ball is in his hands. |
| 21 | Everson Griffen | DE | USC | 6'3" 280lbs | Very strong run defender with legitimate pass rush ability. Would be able to fill the run down DE, and backup DE roles. |
| 22 | Brandon Graham | DE | Michigan | 6'1" 263lbs | Was absolutely unblockable in the senior bowl. While none of the top 5 OTs were present, Graham feasted on OT classes depth. |
| 23 | Trent Williams | OT | Oklahoma | 6'5" 309lbs |
Struggled in pass pro at LT last year, so is likely a RT only, but that's a spot that could use an upgrade as well. |
| 24 | Jason Pierre-Paul | DE | So. Florida | 6'6" 260lbs | If he was matched against Bruce Campbell there might be an explosion from the pure concentration of boom-bust-ness. Pierre-Paul is a freak athlete, but raw with only 2 years experience on the FBS level and likely benefited from having an accomplished pass rusher (George Selvie) opposite him. |
| Tier 5 | Consolation Prizes | ||||
| 25 | Jared Odrick | DT | Penn State | 6'5" 301 | Athletic tackle to add size to the 3 tech. Duplicates a lot of what Fili Moala is hoped to do. |
| 26 | Corey Wootton | DE/DT | Northwestern | 6'7" 270lbs | Versatile lineman who could play much of the Raheem Brock role (though maybe not ILB in the 3-4 look) |
| 27 | Sergio Kindle | DE | Texas | 6'4" 254lbs | Very good pass rusher, but not a guy to put in on run downs, and not experienced or skilled enough in coverage to play LB in Indy |
| 28 | Sean Weatherspoon | OLB | Missouri | 6'1" 241lbs | Likely only a WILL prospect, but might be able to handle the middle in a smaller D. Great cover guy with decently rounded skills. |
| 29 | Ricky Sapp | DE | Clemson | 6'4" 242lbs | Much like Kindle he's a perfect 3-4 OLB who only fits in a 4-3 as a rush end. |
| 30 | Devin McCourty | CB | Rutgers | 5'11" 186lbs | Rising towards the top of the giant mass of CBs fighting for positioning behind Haden. Very good skills in zone, and can handle man coverage. Excellent fit in a cover-2 due to his willingness and skill in run support. |
| 31 | Jerry Hughes | DE | TCU | 6'2" 248lbs | Great pass rusher, but not strong against the run as a DE. Likely a 3-4 OLB |
| 32 | Kyle Wilson | CB | Boise State | 5'10" 190lb | Excellent return man, but limited role in the D since he's not good in run support. |
| Tier 6 | More great non- fits/needs | ||||
| 33 | Carlos Dunlap | DE | Florida | 6'6" 290lb | Freak athlete, with massive size, but major effort questions. |
| 34 | Brandon Spikes | MLB | Florida | 6'3" 256lbs | Good ILB prospect, but not good enough in coverage to be a Tampa-2 MLB. Mix of pass rushing, run D and zone coverage skills would make him a excellent SAM though. |
| 35 | Golden Tate | WR | Notre Dame | 5'11" 195lbs | Great returner, with impressive hands, but small without burner speed. |
| 36 | Jonathan Dwyer | RB | Georgia Tech | 5'11" 235lbs | Big strong RB. Coming from a very run heavy O his pass catching and pass blocking skills are question marks. Might not have the speed to get to the outside, but is a very powerful runner who never fumbled in over 500 career carries. |
| 37 | Damian Williams | WR | USC | 6'1" 195lbs | Great route runner with solid hands and speed. Needs to bulk up and play more physically, blocking and against the press. |
| 38 | Jahvid Best | RB | Cal | 5'10" 195lbs | Burner speed, has experience catching the ball, but doesn't have the size and strength to pass block effectively. |
| 39 | Taylor Mays | S | USC | 6'3" 231lbs | Big safety whose workout numbers will light up the combine, but don't translate to cover skills. Likely a box safety or WILL LB in the pros. |
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I notice that you don't have Joe Haden on your board
Many people have the Steelers grabbing him at 18.
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Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 13, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions
he's at 6
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
and I rarely see him getting out of the top 10
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oops
I didn’t think you’d have him that high, so I didn’t bother looking at the top 6!
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte
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"[T]he Steelers have been evil pieces of crap for a long time who play dirty and seek to injure their opponents, and one day there will be a reckoning."
FriarBob
Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 14, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt he falls past the Browns at 7
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
I think Brown
Brown would move Charlie Johnson to RT or RG upgrading two or even three spots if Diem kicks inside, while Iupati would slot in at RG or maybe RT only upgrading 1 or 2 spots.
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
That would be assuming that the Colts
aren’t in love with Diem at RT.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
You'd think they would have done that already.
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I'd love to see it happen, but I refuse to count on him for anything.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
He lost his job to CJ this year
and was a healthy scratch for quite a few games.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
he's really inconsistent
some plays he beasts in the run game and keeps great pass rushers quiet, others he doesn’t seem to have a clue what he’s doing out there
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm I see
So when his contract is over? Because he was a 1st round pick, right?
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
2nd rounder.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
Since Bill Polian blatantly blamed
the O-line for the loss, think he’s gonna grab Charles Brown and Lupati at #31.
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
He's gonna get both of them?
That would be a great draft.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
I meant "or" instead of "and", lol.
That would be probably make this coming up draft one of the best in Colts’ history if Polian snagged both Brown and Lupati!
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
ProTip
Iupati is spell with an i
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Huh?
Who spelled it wrong?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
Jules and KMR
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
They spelled it the same way as you: Lupati.
What’s wrong with that spelling? I’m confused now.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
no people are confusing a capital i for a lowercase L
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I gotcha
I thought it was an “L” for some strange reason.
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
lots of people do
you weren’t even the first in this thread.
I guess people aren’t use to names starting with two vowels
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Too many vowels = bad.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
his name starts with an I as in Ice
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ohhhhhhhhhhh...........
I get it now. That’s a stupid last name then that I have no clue how to pronounce.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
eye-you-pot-eee
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
...............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
Eye-You-Pah-Tee
I believe.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
shake, do you see any of the guys
in your tier 5 to be left for the Colts with their 2nd round pick, preferably Rick Sapp and Jerry Hughes?
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
possible, but unlikely
3-4 teams will be all over Sapp and Hughes in the 2nd
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
ND homers
may call Clausen a Taller Brees, but no Purdue homer will. They will call the same thing they did when Quinn came out. He is overrated and going to be a bust.
I watched both through college and Brees did more with less talent around him
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Feb 13, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions
Now CH is going to hunt you down....
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
I'll take him on
Anytime anywhere
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Feb 13, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said before
Maybe he’ll be the next Ryan Leaf, but he has no personality problem, and both Clausen and Bradford aren’t expected to be #1 and #2 picks. Maybe, and just maybe, McCoy and Suh could turn to be a bust and a future star
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
I think more like
Rick Mirer, who went to my HS. Have a good year then fail
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Feb 13, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
QB A
This guy had the best year statistically for a pro style quarterback EVER. He led his team on multiple comeback wins all while battling a bad foot injury. In one of those comebacks he didn’t even play most of the game and he came back in to lead his team down. He was also coached by one of the best QB coaches ever. He was also voted captain as a true sophomore. He did all of this while playing behind a really bad offensive line. Most GMs and people would be saying, “Hell yeah! This guy is the number one pick for sure. Can’t miss prospect right here!” And then you say the school and name. Jimmy Clausen, quarterback for the University of Notre Dame. Then people say, “Oh yeah. Notre Dame. They weren’t very good when he was QB. And didn’t he show up to his college announcement in a Hummer limo? Must be bad character. And wasn’t the QB before him a bust. I know that they are 2 extremely different QBs, but that connection is overwhelming. It’s why Tee Martin became such a good QB.” There is no reason why Clausen shouldn’t be the number one pick and the best QB prospect to come out since Peyton Manning, but his school is what is hurting him. Notre Dame is the most divisive team in college football. That shouldn’t come in the way of a prospect, but it does. Most people know that Clausen was the star of that team and the best ND QB since Joe Montana. Golden Tate said he never had to work for a pass from Jimmy Clausen. Clausen throws the best deep comeback route I’ve seen. He’s got very good arm strength and is deadly accurate like Brees. He’s a great leader and a strong competitor. He doesn’t turn the ball over. He plays through injury. He knows what it is like to play for a rebuilding team without much talent. He has had all of the spotlight on him since he was in 8th grade. He is more ready to be a pro than Peyton Manning was. The Rams passed on Matt Ryan for Chris Long. Terrible choice but no one strongly disagreed with it. Imagine that times 100. That would be passing on Jimmy Clausen for Ndamukong Suh. I know I am biased, but I also have seen every pass Clausen threw in college, from the first one against Georgia Tech to the last one against Stanford and everything in between. Brees had a better offensive line and better defense than Clausen by a large margin. Without Clausen these teams were so poorly coached that it is amazing they were college football players. I could write a novel on why Clausen should be the number one pick, and there would be no logic fails in there.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
Dude.....
could you use some paragraph breaks? Reading that thing gave he a headache.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
I didn't realize how long it was
I was in the zone. Like I said that thing could have been much longer. I’m thinking about making a FanPost at TurfShowTimes about why the Rams should take Clausen or else be sorely punished by the football god of bad drafting.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
Hell that only take about ten minutes
If I was a Rams fan I would have already a series of books published on why Clausen should go number one. The difference is that if the Rams pass on Clausen I will just laugh, but if I was a Rams fan and they passed I would go crazy and throw my TV out the window.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
thankfully you're not a Rams fan
I would pity your neighbors!
How can you not love a team that does this?
Oh well
They would know how I would feel about Clausen. If I lived in St. Louis I would start a whole campaign for Clausen. I firmly believe that if the Rams pass on Clausen it would be the worst drafting decision of all-time by a large margin.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
wonder
if the new owner will influence the decision at all
How can you not love a team that does this?
Probably not
Hopefully he will change them back to the yellow and blue jerseys though. I hate the new ones they have.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Feb 13, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Have you ever considered that St. Louis would contract Vick as a starting QB?
Given that fact, where would Clausen drop?
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If the Rams don't take him
I would be stunned if he fell past Seattle at 6. After Clausen tore apart the Poodle’s defense last year he knows how damn good Clausen is. That would be a pretty terrible choice and a great way to ostracize a fan base who is already suffering if they got the dog killer in there. I know I would become a Bears, Colts, or Chiefs fan if they brought in Vick to be the starter.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Feb 13, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
my buddy whose a Rams fan wants them to trade for Vick
and draft Locker next year
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see why it couldn't happen, but it don't think it's likely.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Locker is going to be fantastic
But if by some miracle Vick wins them 3 games and the Bills go 1-15 then they are kind of screwed. So many crazy things can happen that I wouldn’t want to draft with that far in mind. Hell, there are some prospects that rise a few weeks before the draft let alone over a whole season. Clausen was looking like he was a 4 year player before this season and now he is a top 10 pick.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Feb 13, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hey snake
just noticed you got two 24s on your board
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Feb 13, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions
fixed
must be from when I had forgotten Trent Williams and had to insert him.
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Good
glad someone finally listens to me
See Ball, Get Ball. Quarterback Has Ball, Sack Him.
by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Feb 13, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Did you say something?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
yeah
Don’t startle the Witch
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Feb 13, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
By the way,
how did you do the cool tables? Did you just copy and paste from Word, or is it an HTML trick?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
mgrex taught me to make pretty tables about a year ago
it’s HTML
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
They are very pretty.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
HTML trick
Mgrex made it and Shake and I started using it. Mgrex is pretty much a god.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
Pretty much.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
Only in making HTML tables
I think SBNation has an easy one that will stripe each row too, class=zebra.
I haven’t tried it yet, but have seen others use it.
Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.
Where did he say that?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
Read the intro paragraph.
This is not a mock draft, this is a draft board. It doesn’t go in order.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
and it's based off my idea of value to the Colts
other teams will value some guys more highly.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
hate to break it to you 805
but the Colts lost last week…
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
That too.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!! SO IT WASNT A FUCKIN DREAM FUCK
my bad its just that i got so used to seing the colts in 32 for mock drafts that it gots stuck sorry
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Would be nice for sure.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Even though the Colts lost, it was a good season. Random facts will resume next week when I recover.
we alredy got enough in brock, DE shouldnt be a priority when our back ups could be starters
im feeling a burner CB or OT
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
But Brock is already old
And he won’t develope anymore. Maybe a DE would be a better backup than Brock if Freeney gets injured. At least I hope Freeney have a 15 years career just like Strahan
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
freeny will and he'll retire with 4 rings for sure
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
4 rings?
That’s a little too optimistic.
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I'm expecting Peyton to retire
with 1-3 rings. I’m not sure where it will fall there.
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That's what I found strange
Maybe he’s just too pessimistic
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I actually consider myself a realistic optimist.
I just realize that the playoffs are one huge crapshoot and nothing is guaranteed.
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Between 1 and 3?
I don’t think it’s aiming really low.
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No we're not gonna shut up
Cause you made us glad and now are trying to bring us down :(
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There was no evidence to suggest that.....
I thought you were dead serious.
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other than my long history
of sarcastic and dead pan remarks?
meh – would love to see Manning earn 3, 4, 5 more rings, but yeah… gotta keep it real
How can you not love a team that does this?
Optimism for the win
Think big, and big things will come
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
Too bad football doesn't work that way.
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Yeah...
For sure. You can’t win if you don’t have the skills
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
and you cant win if you have the skills the colts proved that
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Oh come on
There were too many facts that got onto Colts way to win this SB. And we’ll be over it as soon as we get another show to win another ring, with or without Manning. You can’t put a championship on a player’s shoulder; that’s what this SB proved.
I wonder: what will happen to the Colts franchise when Manning retires? I guess many fans will be gone if they don’t keep up their winning records
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I wouldn't be gone.
I would still be fanatic about the Colts no matter who’s at QB.
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Me too
And I’ll be around 22 when he retires, and if God helps me, I’ll get a chance to see the Colts playing and eventually get even more addicted to american football. But, you know, even after Manning entered the Colts, Indianapolis started to give a real importance to american football after Pacers biggest star retired and the defense led the team to a SB berth.
If the Pacers really bankrrupt, and the Colts don’t keep up, maybe Indiana will be heading to Chicago Cubs or Cincinnati Reds games.
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well.........nevermind cuz some people get offended when i talk
n i wasnt gonna offend you
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Our lack of DE depth
Pretty much crushed our Super Bowl dream 2 of the last 3 years.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Feb 14, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
oh hey, CH
I GOT CHARLES BROWN IN THE COMMENTER MOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought there was no chance when the Packers went on the clock and Brown was the top rated OT…. BUT THEY TOOK MAYS!!!
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You sound excited.
Now, how can I kill that excitement?
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remind me that the Packers FO isn't that dumb?
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
OK.
The Packers FO is at least somewhat competent and will take Brown over a reach at safety.
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Yep.
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Justin Harrell
Enough said
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-Mitch Hedberg
I loved Harrell in the draft that year
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone did
In the 30s but at 16 he was a big reach for an injury prone player. Hopefully they can make the same mistake again. Or else the Raiders don’t take Bruce Campbell and that chain sets it off.
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Yay for terrible drafting!
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hmmm
interesting. 4 picks to go before my 2nd rounder and Wootton is still on the board. Unforunately they are 3 3-4 teams and a 4-3 team with need on the DL.
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What are the options you're considering?
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Wootton, Washington, Arenas, Tennant
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Washington is a nice consolation prize.
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What are the other positions there?
I’m not as familiar on the players yet.
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Wootton is on the draft board above
Arenas is the returner/nickel CB, Tennant is a Center/Guard
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Which one are you going with if they are all left?
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in the order I listed them unless someone has a really convincing argument
2 picks left (Jets and Vikes) and all 4 still available
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Jets don't take any of them
1 pick left
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Is Wooten any good as a pass rusher?
You list him as Brock-like, but that means run D to me.
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run D at DE
pass rush at the 3 tech
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting.
He could be useful then. MLB isn’t a huge pressing need anyway with Brackett coming back.
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he's tall too
you think Josh Thomas’ height was a redeeming feature, wait until you see a 6’7" lineman with some athleticism.
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
That would be cool to see.
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The 3rd one
would be my pick..Washington would be good
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
I thought Arenas could fall to our 3rd pick,
although I’m not sure on that.
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In the Mock....maybe
in the real draft….doubt it
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
You never know.....
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thoughts on the 2nd rounder CH?
I feel like I have to take Wootton. I think he’s good value at a position where he could contribute.
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time to go make the pick shake
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 13, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
K, Wootton it is
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
That's probably what Polian will do.
BPA situation.
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Who else was left on the board?
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-Mitch Hedberg
everyone not colored orange here
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Av3Fah0qKP1idG0yTVZjWFJrcUZYM3J3TUZsU1hYVGc&hl=en
Washington, Arenas and Tennant were the rest of my short list
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
His knee injury scares me
It cost him some speed and that concerns me. I would have taken Washington or Arenas. Wootton is great value at 63 though. No idea how he fell down there.
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A ton are left that I didn't expect to be left
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 13, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
i wish you guys could see the face of my dog when he takes a piss on that carpet he jus looks at me and does it like he knows im gonna get pissed
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:25 PM EST reply actions
I would rather not see that.
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Thanks man
My legs hurt like hell, but you make me laugh anyway
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?
Why do your legs hurt so much?
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Climbed a mountain today with a 40-pound bag
To go paragliding with my uncle
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That must have sucked.
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Not at all
Flying pays every little pain that comes within. I’m just unable to laugh at everything like I usually do
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well im happy i make you laugh, and you should know i cry when your around
because it reminds me of that brazilian girl :’(
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ahuauhauhauhaa
Come on man, get over it. Someday, you’ll find another one and won’t let that one pass away.
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
is your bold part u laughing?
oh and man you dont understand the one that i let escape is uniqe
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
It happens to everybody
I can’t get over my break-up with my first girlfriend, so we’re fine with it anyway
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
I'm surprised Angels didn't get mad at me for listing Brown's school as U$C
and I forgot for a second to list Wootton’s school as just Northwestern (jNU)
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Yep
and pOSU for Ohio State (piece of shit university). And scUM for Michigan.
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-Mitch Hedberg
didn't notice I was busy and plus it isn't like the are my alma mater just the team I root for
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 13, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
QB A: Now with paragraph breaks!
This guy had the best year statistically for a pro style quarterback EVER. He led his team on multiple comeback wins all while battling a bad foot injury. In one of those comebacks he didn’t even play most of the game and he came back in to lead his team down. He was also coached by one of the best QB coaches ever. He was also voted captain as a true sophomore. He did all of this while playing behind a really bad offensive line. Most GMs and people would be saying, "Hell yeah! This guy is the number one pick for sure. Can’t miss prospect right here!" And then you say the school and name. Jimmy Clausen, quarterback for the University of Notre Dame. Then people say, "Oh yeah. Notre Dame. They weren’t very good when he was QB. And didn’t he show up to his college announcement in a Hummer limo? Must be bad character. And wasn’t the QB before him a bust. I know that they are 2 extremely different QBs, but that connection is overwhelming. It’s why Tee Martin became such a good QB."
There is no reason why Clausen shouldn’t be the number one pick and the best QB prospect to come out since Peyton Manning, but his school is what is hurting him. Notre Dame is the most divisive team in college football. That shouldn’t come in the way of a prospect, but it does. Most people know that Clausen was the star of that team and the best ND QB since Joe Montana. Golden Tate said he never had to work for a pass from Jimmy Clausen. Clausen throws the best deep comeback route I’ve seen. He’s got very good arm strength and is deadly accurate like Brees. He’s a great leader and a strong competitor. He doesn’t turn the ball over. He plays through injury. He knows what it is like to play for a rebuilding team without much talent. He has had all of the spotlight on him since he was in 8th grade. He is more ready to be a pro than Peyton Manning was. The Rams passed on Matt Ryan for Chris Long. Terrible choice but no one strongly disagreed with it. Imagine that times 100. That would be passing on Jimmy Clausen for Ndamukong Suh.
I know I am biased, but I also have seen every pass Clausen threw in college, from the first one against Georgia Tech to the last one against Stanford and everything in between. Brees had a better offensive line and better defense than Clausen by a large margin. Without Clausen these teams were so poorly coached that it is amazing they were college football players. I could write a novel on why Clausen should be the number one pick, and there would be no logic fails in there.
That’s why Clausen should be the number one pick.
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-Mitch Hedberg
I've read it before
And without paragraphs, but good job anyway
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Cass wanted it
And I know some people wouldn’t read it when it was a giant block.
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-Mitch Hedberg
So you can also tell me
Do/Does the Rams have good WRs to work with Clausen? They lost Terry Holt, who wasn’t that good lately, but still, he’ll be nothing without at least a WR who runs a right route
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They need a realy #1
but Avery and their slot/returnman is a good 2/3
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Donnie Avery is a solid wide receiver
But I don’t know if he is number one material yet. I think Brandon Gibson from Washington State is someone who will pan out good for them. Keenan Burton is decent as well. They don’t have a big target for Clausen though. Of course, Steven Jackson is also the best running back in football and that should help a lot.
Another thing about Clausen is that why would you draft an offensive tackle in Jason Smith but then have no one for him to protect besides Mark Bulger? OTs and QBs should go hand in hand.
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-Mitch Hedberg
Much better.
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Has it started yet?
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by Colts Homer on Feb 13, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
once it finally starts
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
Not too interested in it.
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yep
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 13, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Dunk Contest has too many no-names
The NBA should make a rule. They pick the 4 guys to be in it and if they refuse they lose the right of free agency. I want to see Kobe, LeBron, Dwight Howard, Nate Robinson, Josh Smith and all of those guys in there.
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-Mitch Hedberg
Lil' Nate's in it
Lebron can never be compared to MJ for the simple fact that he didn’t do the Dunk Contest and he can’t do it now since he has too many mileage of his body.
Peyton Manning makes it Wayne on them hoes!!!!
Kobe has been in it before but Lebron never will
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 13, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Kobe has been in it before but Lebron never will
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 13, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
A time limit in the dunk contest
Finally!
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-Mitch Hedberg
Open thread
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2010/2/13/1309666/olympics-dunk-contest-football#comments
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Question
What do you think about Okung and who would you compair him to? Also do you think that Bryan Bulag is worth a first round pick with his thyroid problem? That’s a problem that tends not to go away easily.
by Sanders_fan89 on Feb 13, 2010 10:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Re: Bulaga the reports at the time said no long term meds or continuing issues with it
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think Bulaga is worth trading up for even if it means parting with Bob Sanders to do so?
by Sanders_fan89 on Feb 13, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
not if Brown will drop
but if it’s Bulaga vs no 1st round OT, it’d be a tough call.
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
If the Colts are trading up
Go and get Charles Brown and there are a lot of guys I would part with for him.
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by Colts Homer on Feb 13, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I already know who's at the top of your list.
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Maybe.....
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He has no trade value
Players that a team would actually want.
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by Colts Homer on Feb 14, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Okong is compared to D'Brickashaw Ferguson here
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1133637
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by shake n bake on Feb 13, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
dam im freaking out hey if my dog has red eyes could it be cause like on friday night he wanted to bite another dog and we had to hold him by
the neck so i dont know if its because of that that he has red eyes and he burst a vessel, or what but could it be rabies does anyone thinks so
by 805 on Feb 13, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions
could be a burst vessel
but also could be conjuctivitis (pink eye)… if you’re really worried, take him to a vet
How can you not love a team that does this?
I don't think it's rabies
If the dog was foaming at the mouth and acting really irratically then I would think it something like rabies but I don’t think it is. I would try to call a vet or see about going to like a Pet Smart or something where they have people there all the time. I really don’t think it is a serious thing like rabies, but I would definately get it checked out if it just appeared out of nowhere.
Why Quinn = Clausen is the dumbest argument ever
Two QBs, coming from the same school, who played right after one another. Both picked in the First Round, 3 picks apart (different years).
QB A: 53.4%, 2815 Yds 28 TD / 10 INT in Senior Year.
QB B: 66.1%, 2566 Yds 25 TD / 8 INT in Senior Year.
Now let’s compare Quinn and Clausen:
Quinn: 61.9%, 3426 Yds 37 TD / 7 INT in Senior Year.
Clausen: 68.0%, 3722 Yds 28 TD / 4 INT in Junior Year
See the similarities? QB A has been a complete bust in the NFL, and QB B is a top 5 QB in the league.
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Since Haden won't make it to 18 unless he bombs at the combine
Williams could be a good option. Bulaga would be worth a long look if he fell that far, as well.
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Can't you just feel the love?
by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST reply actions
Earl Thomas
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-Mitch Hedberg
by Colts Homer on Feb 14, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
As a backup to Troy?
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at the other S spot
or he’s athletic enough to play CB
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by shake n bake on Feb 14, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
This
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
K.
That makes more sense than using a 1st rounder for a backup.
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Thomas at 31?
Do you really think he’ll fall that far? I don’t.
For the Steelers,
not the Colts.
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Sorry
That will teach me to come into the movie late!
The popcorn line must have been long.
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nah...
Every time they handed him the 3D glasses, he kept returning them saying he wears contacts.
kidding, smonroe.. :)
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
Heh heh.
That was good.
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What a dumb statement
(But I’m going to steal it and use it as soon as I can)
haha
sure, dude… you’re welcome to use it anytime you like.
just send me a quarter each time, and we’ll be good. ;)
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Sure, but...
…maybe you should look up the definition of the word ‘steal’…
Brown's stock
IMO will fall, much like William Beatty did last year, because his frame at just over 290lbs is pretty much maxed out. He is definitely a LT only and very skilled, but the NFL would still want the size to go along with. I’m thinking Odrick, Graham, Weatherspoon, or a trade down coming. Maybe Gronkowski if he is over the back issues.
BTW thanks for the board Shake, eerily similar to mine.
Oh and Chad Jones
I see him shooting up the boards as the process continues. Could also be possible at #31. He plays centerfield in baseball and football at LSU and is a big hitter. Already 230 lbs and getting bigger, maybe this is the heir apparent to Brackett. Kind of like Urlacher, outgrows safety into playmaking MIKE.
that's interesting
I saw him and thought LB, but didn’t think MLB. I like it.
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by shake n bake on Feb 15, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
A first round DE may become unlikely eventually
With Brandon Graham and Jason Pierre Paul the best DE candidates for our system, IMO, chances are, those two will not be available.
Plus, we signed Mitch King and that CFL MVP John Chick who is a DE that comes off a stand up position instead of a 3-point stance. I feel that we may go DE in later rounds with Jermaine Cunningham of Florida, Alex Carrington of Arkansas State, and E.J.Wilson of North Carolina being good late round prospects.
Given all that and how the elite OTs would be past us, I am feeling a lot of love for Devin McCourty of Rutgers. Our first round pick has always been someone that has not been brought to the Colts campus, more so a guy we interview at the combine to assess character and his response to specific questions (Donald Brown, Anthony Gonzalez cases etc.) Polian looks at their body of work over the years and if he is BPA, he will pull the plug on him for a first round pick.
So, chances are, if we do not bring in Devin McCourty in for a workout, I will say that his chances of being the Colts’ first round pick is high.
Big fan of Cunningham
Thought he was better down in-down out that Carlos Dunlap.
I like him too
But I do feel that Cunningham may be a late round 2 or early round 3 selection.
Based on best player available, and how our secondary has been having injuries to Marlin and Hayden, and how Tim Jennings and T.J.Rushing will never cut it as quality backups, this is how I would like our draft to play out:
1st round: Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers (good zone corner, very capable of man coverage, very willing in run support and tackles well, physical in nature and has done returns too) – have a suspicion Brandon Graham and Jason Pierre Paul will be gone by the time we pick at #31
2nd round: Roger Saffold, OT, Indiana (excellent feet to play in this pass happy offense, great prospect, very versatile and can play several positions on our O-line)
3rd round: Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia (disruptive UT, pocket penetrator) – I am hoping he is here since this draft is filled with UTs (Brian Price, Jared Odrick, Tyson Alualu, LaMarr Houston, Geno Atkins, Nate Collins etc.), and if Polian cannot land a pass rushing DT for the middle in this draft, we will never get a quality draft like this again for the UT. AJ & Muir are great run stopping DTs but they are not pocket pushers like a Jay Ratliff of the Cowboys, our DTs did not sniff Brady or Brees when we played pass-first offenses.
4th round: A.J. Edds, OLB, Iowa (very good in space and coverage, tackles well, plays best outside), since A.J. Edds had a good Senior Bowl, if he has a good combine too, he may be gone by this time, in that case I like Kendrick Lewis, a free safety out of Ole Miss since I am not sold on Aaron Francisco being our backup free safety to Antoine Bethea. We have enough strong safeties but free safety could use a late round upgrade like Kendrick Lewis.
5th round: E.J. Wilson, DE, North Carolina (more bulkier DE than we have had around 289 lbs, might be what we need, can be UT on passing downs too if needed in rotation in case of injuries)
5th round compensatory pick for Hunter Smith: Nate Byham, TE, Pittsburgh (very good blocking TE that had great pass catching production the previous season and played more blocking TE this last season)
7th round: Andre Teblett, DT, Temple
Agree
This is the year where a disruptive 3 tech has to be aquired in the draft. If one of the surer things isn’t available at #31, buy in bulk in the middle rounds. If one turns out to be a player, great. If not you increase the wave of players to attack in numbers. Going forward, I strongly believe that this is the only thing lacking on this defense, disruption up the middle without constantly blitzing the A gap. Blitzing more this season was a welcomed wrinkle, but we saw that they were seemingly hesitant to try that vs. Brees and company.
I would put Graham over Griffen
at Griffen’s weight, I doubt he has the speed to rush the passer. We already have rub down DE’s and when they are in, the pass rush becomes moot.
he moves like a much smaller player, but holds ground against the run like his size would suggest.
which is why he’s such a highly rated DE.
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by shake n bake on Feb 15, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Are you talking
about Griffen then? or Graham?
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Griffen there
Graham is much smaller and a pure pass rusher.
I think Griffen can play as a run down DE and be a great backup to Freeney/Mathis in pass rushing situations, because he’s much more athletic than his 6’3" 270-280lb frame suggests.
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by shake n bake on Feb 16, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
understood. I've seen Graham play and have been impressed.
Knowing there’s another good DE available increases the chances that we get one of them.
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