New blood test for HGH
by Brad Wells on Feb 25, 2010 9:25 AM EST
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PrintI'm still getting over the flu, but while I sniffle and cough I'd like to get your feedback. Recently, a new blood test was used to find Human Growth Hormon (HGH) in a rugby player's system. The player was suspended. The use of HGH is prohibited in the NFL as the league feels a substance which accelerates healing and muscle growth provides players with a competitive edge that tips the balance of the game.
In simple English, if players are taking HGH, they are cheating according to NFL rules
As fans, would you like to see a mandatory blood test for HGH implemented into the NFL? Vote in the poll below. I have some strong feelings on this issue, but I'd like to see what you folks think. Thanks.
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Banning HGH would be terrible for the game
They’d have to suspend the whole league. Then without it, there’d be even bigger injury problems. That’s not good for anybody.
But now the cat is out of the bag and they’ll look bad if they don’t. They should just tell everyone they’re testing but fake it.
That's a stupid thing for you to say
Pretend-test? Give me a break.
HGH is bad for the sport. It’s just like EPO in cycling – CHEATING.
Google images/Brock Lesnar, and you tell me with a straight face that HGH gives no advantage whatsoever to the subscriber.
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Excellent comparison...
Comparing the sports of cycling and football is impossible, but the advantages that HGH give a football player are in the same vein as EPO for a professional cyclist. Muscles get big…more strength…tendons and ligaments don’t…lots of injuries. Since the EPO era of cycling, speeds have gotten so fast that it is impossible to compete without doing it. Only now (the last couple of years) are they making strides to eliminate it from the Pro Tour. Same should be the case in the NFL.
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Injuries
HGH has shown to cause diabetes early, but the big issue is that it can stimulate bone growth. You can usually tell someone is on HGH if their teeth get further apart. It’s because their jaw bone is growing. The problem is when your long bones grow. Your epiphyseal plate seals once you hit puberty and they stop growing. Use HGH and you’re in for joint swelling and pain.
My issue with allowing drugs like this, be it steroids, HGH, or other, is that you are putting an athlete’s future health on the line. You’ll have one group that doesn’t care getting an advantage and another that wants to be healthy at retirement age.
by ActionOxford on Feb 26, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
of course it gives an advantage
Not sure I’d call Lesnar an HGH “subscriber” so much as I’d call him “someone who used a whole bunch of steroids.”
The point is that this is a sport that damn near requires that advantage, which is why a huge portion of people use it. If they eliminate it, the quality of the product will go way down.
Lesnar doesn't take steroids, likely
They are currently tested for in the UFC, though the fighters are warned ahead of time and given two weeks or so to purge their system.
He actually was arrested back in college for possession of something, though his agent refused to acknowledge what it was, beyond saying it was perscribed painkillers, or some other lame excuse.
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I'd rather them save the salary cap first and worry about this second
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Why is the NFLPA against it?
At this point, however, any H.G.H. test in the N.F.L. would still involve blood – something the union is against. The N.F.L. spokesman Greg Aiello told The Washington Post, "Our position is that HGH blood testing has advanced to the point where we are taking steps to incorporate it into our program."
George Atallah, an executive for the union, told The Post: "At this point, there’s no reason to believe that blood-testing for N.F.L. players will or should be implemented. We should instead focus on preserving the drug-testing policy that we have in place.
Are they really afraid of false positives, or are they afraid of the can of worms it would open up if it was implemented?
Keep the faith!
Voted B
just because I’m terrified of needles.
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I think they should allow HGH
would just return the players to the game faster, and it would likely be the players we want to see, anyway. While they’re at it, they should implement the DL system like in baseball – that way we could have had Sorgi under center in Weeks 16 & 17. Just sayin’
How can you not love a team that does this?
I agree LB, but am concerned about "control"
I voted Yes #1 because of that.
I think the guys should have access to medically defensible (not by team doctors, but by, say, my kid’s doctor down the street) quantities of HGH and appropriate steroids, to help them get better, not bigger.
But because I see no way to control that (I recall a SI article about 20 years ago about DMSO—a substance that “races” through skin to muscles and joints—guys would rub on topical roids and other meds, then rub this stuff on and the roids would race directly to their injuries. Not sure why it’s illegal—may have been only approved for veterinary use—But it was illegal, so they bought arthritic dogs and took them to a half dozen vets around town to get all the DMSO they could. They’d to the same crap with anything legalized “in small amounts.” Everybody wants to find an edge and if there is a chink in the armor, they’ll exploit it.), I think it’s probably best to eliminate it.
And who is to say they wouldn’t fake a ton of weekly sprains just to stockpile enough PEDs to really E their P, and not just get better faster?
Not a very trusting guy, am I?
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
good point
I could use some of that DMSO myself, though.
How can you not love a team that does this?
Sound argument
But you can tell that an athlete is juicing if you are a physical trainer or somebody who knows human physiology and sports medicine well. Even for a young guy like Garcon it took almost an entire season to reshape his body to what it is now. With Roidney it should’ve been obvious, but just like the video tapes, the NFL conveniently turned a blind eye.
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by rangerover76 on Feb 25, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly this argument always vexes me.
Sure they could ban it and test for it but there will always be something else that will pop up in its place. We should just face the facts and realize that testing will always be two steps behind. I wish they would spend more money on researching what was or was not actually harmful to the players then ban substances based on that.
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Its not about what's harmful to the players
Its about big guys getting bigger and hitting stronger and faster. If you’ve ever been hit by a guy who’s added 40 lbs of muscle and cut down body fat significantly since the last time you saw him, you will know.
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by rangerover76 on Feb 25, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Have any of you ever seriously considered how Freeny comes back from serious injuries so quickly? Seriously dont be fans here, be real. Think about it.
I'm waiting for any actual evidence or proof.
That is called speculation.
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