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Stampede Blue has a beer with Peter King: Part I

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After a twelve hour day yesterday, with most of my time dedicated to transcribing interviews with Pat McAfee and Larry Coyer, I cross 17th Street in Fort Lauderdale, walking towards a nearby hotel. I stroll into the hotel lobby, sit in some post-modern, art deco lobby chair, look at some emails on my smart phone, and wait. I'm in the hotel because I've got a date with Peter King, senior writer for Sports Illustrated and human target for just about every football blogger on the planet.

I resign myself to the notion that King will likely be late. Hell, if he shows up at all, I'll be shocked. We discussed talking at 8:30am that morning, just prior to the Colts press event. The reason we were talking in the first place yesterday morning was that Peter had, for no obvious reason, randomly decided to park at the table I was sitting at.

"How are you this morning, gentlemen?" he said to the group of us.

We all grunt a collective "hi" because we are under-nourished and sleep deprived.

Peter drops his bag down and sits. I lean over and introduce myself. I tell him I'm a Colts blogger and, to his credit, Peter does not start screaming and running away in terror. We then strike up a 30 minute, casual conversation that ranges from the Colts resting starters in Week Sixteen to Norv Turner's coaching in the playoffs to how overwhleming this whole Super Bowl media thing actually is.

Eventually, the subject turns to blogging, and Peter starts opening up about how bloggers, and blog readers, think of him. This gives me the bright idea to ask for an interview; let Peter King himself chat it up with one of the very bloggers who has called him every name in the book. He agreed, and he told me to meet him at the lobby of his hotel at 8:15pm.

Skip ahead. I'm in the hotel lobby in Fort Lauderdale. It's 8:15. I'm chuckling to myself as I wipe fatigue from eyes eyes and view the Photoshop jobs you readers did to my picture. I like the "Breaking News" one the best, but all are excellent. The lobby elevator doors open, and out walks Peter King.

8:15. on. the. dot.

Peter King: Hey, how you doing?

BBS: I'm tired man.

PK: Shit, let's get a beer.

On time and to the point. Already, I warm to Peter King.

We walk to the bar and he offers to buy me a beer. I tell him thanks, but a Diet Coke will do. I'm pretty tired and I have 45 minutes of driving to do after the interview. Plus, I do NOT want to get sloshed while interviewing Peter friggin King.

Peter asks for a Peroni, but the bar has none. He settled for Pilsner Urquell. A man of taste. I tell him I drank of lot of Peroni when I studied abroad in Tuscany as a college kid. He turns and lights up. I said his favorite word, "Tuscany," He vacations there with his wife, and has written about it.

The IU v. Purdue game is on, and Peter (knowing I'm from Indiana) points to the game on the bar flat screen.

BBS: You know, one of my colleagues wrote an article recently questioning if that game is still a rivalry.

Peter King turns to me and says, "WHAT! Was he kidding?"

I tell him I'm not sure.

We walk over to a nearby couch. I turn my recorder on. He pours his beer from bottle to pint glass and settles in. A white patch of hair waves through the center of his hair. He sips his beer. This is Peter King, right in front of me, ready to talk about anything I ask him.

BBS: What I want to talk about, if you don't mind, is you. I come from the blogosphere. I've taken shots at you. Many of colleagues have taken shots at you.

Peter King: Yep.

BBS: In the two days I've seen you work, you're just a regular guy. You work with precision. I'm wanting to know what you think of how bloggers think of you? Does it bother you? Does it baffle you? What?

Peter takes another sip of his Pilsner Urquell and thinks. It's a long pause before he answers.

PK: When I did a bunch of these [online] chats [like the Deadspin one several months ago]…

BBS: Some negative things were said.

PK: Yeah. "You’re a know-nothing, fat, piece of shit. You don’t know football. You're totally out of touch with reality. You’re an idiot. You’re gay for Favre." I… I don’t know what to say. I don’t know, I mean, all I can do is try and do my job, and do the best I can.

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BBS: How long have you covered the NFL?

PK: Since 1984. So, it'd be my 25, 26th year, I guess.

BBS: That’s a long time.

PK: Yeah. But, you know, I see what the world is like. And I, look, I leave myself open for a lot of criticism, too. Like, I just, here is a good example today: Yesterday, I was on Sirius with Randy Cross and Bob Papa, and we had Chad Ochocinco on who, on the Week Seventeen game, was interviewed by Bob Costas before the game and he said, "If Darrelle Revis and the Jets shut me down, I'll change my name back to Chad Johnson."

BBS: I remember that.

PK: He got shut down not just once, but twice in the next two weeks.

BBS: Didn’t he try and say he was hurt with a knee injury?

PK: I don’t know what he said. Anyway, he said that he said that he was hurt, or that he’d said this and that. And then, so I asked him, "Have you changed your name back to Chad Johnson?" He goes, "No." And, he basically said that he was just kidding. And today, on Dan Patrick, he said that he had his fingers crossed. That he never meant it. And so, I just said, it’s a massive pile of horse crap. Which, it is. (BBS laughs) He lied. He told a lie on national TV. And so, that’s the kind of thing that, for some reason, and I like Chad...

BBS: Yeah, he seems like I nice guy.

PK: I’ve known him for a long time. He doesn’t do things to really hurt the game. He just is a funny guy. But anyway, so, he basically says that he didn’t mean it. And so, I said, I don’t accept that. I think you're a liar.

BBS: You told him that to his face?

PK: No. But, after he said today that he was just kidding, I was crossing my fingers, all that stuff, which he didn’t say on Sirius. But anyway, bottom line on the whole thing is that those are the things that I say that people, for some reason, seem to get infuriated about. I was on Twitter just before I came down here, and people just said [on Twitter], "Can’t you take a joke? You’re an idiot." Or whatever. You know. All that kind of stuff.

BBS: Does it bother you? Does it get to you? Because it seems you get inundated with it all the time?

PK: The only time it gets to… I’ll tell you when it got to me. After the NFC Championship game, I've got to write about 2200 words, a game story for Sports Illustrated.

BBS: Monday Morning Quarterback?

PK: No. For the magazine. I have to write a story for the magazine that gets in peoples hands by Wednesday and Thursday of the week. So, that’s my primary job at the NFC Championship Game. My primary job is to write for a magazine that has 3.1 mill subscribers, and I gotta do a good job and write something that no one else is gonna have. So, that’s my primary responsibility. Quite frankly, I think I did a helluva job. I went to the Saints, to Sean Payton’s party afterward, I saw what they did the night before the game. How he tried to inspire his players with Ronnie Lott in a video, and blah, blah, blah. Whatever. So, that’s my game story for the magazine. And, obviously, that took up a lot of time and energy after the game to go do that, to go to that party that Payton had.

BBS: It was the later game, too.

PK: Yeah, it was the later game. So, I leave the Super Dome, Eastern time, at 11:50 pm. I walk over to this party, spend about a half hour there. I get back to my room at around Eastern time at 2am-

BBS: Can I interrupt you?

PK: Yeah.

BBS: When you’re at this party, you’re working.

PK: Oh yeah.

BBS: You’re not there partying.

PK: No. No, I'm just talking to Payton, talking to a few people there. And so, at SI, you really have to try the best you can to do something that’s going to be a little bit different in the magazine the following week. So, then I just wrote that. And what I wrote for Monday Morning Quarterback was... I knew I wasn’t going to have the normal amount of time after the game that I normally have because I've got to write this other story. And, I'm not even going to sit down until one or two in the morning to write either one of them. So on Friday and Saturday, I write two long things for MMQB. One, an interview with Tim Tebow. And one, grading all the juniors, and kind of placing them in the first round of the draft. And that’s about 2500 words. Those two things combined. So, I feel good that I've git two very topical things. Even though Tebow did a press conference in Mobile, AL Sunday night. I mean, I thought I had him first, and I did. Whatever. I've got some good stuff from him. And then, after the game, I think the most dramatic thing in the game is this idiotic interception that Favre thew, and also the handling of the clock down the stretch.

BBS and PK in unison: The twelve men in the huddle.

PK: All that stuff. And I knew that it would get so discussed that I'm not going to have time to get into it too much in my game story for the magazine that my job is; that that’s gonna get blown out over the next day or two. So, I said, I'm gonna flood MMQB with that, ok. Most weeks, on other big games in the league, I'm able to do some phone interviews. I know enough people that I could have gotten like, for the Indianapolis game that day... I couldn’t have gotten [Peyton Manning] on the phone, but I could have gotten Dallas Clark, or [Pierre Garcon], one of the guys. But see, I'm in the middle of covering the NFC Championship Game. So, I can’t spend 20 minutes on the phone with Dallas Clark or with somebody.

BBS: And you weren’t in Indianapolis. You were in New Orleans.

PK: I wasn’t in Indianapolis. So, anyway, I write this column. Its very heavy. It leads with Favre, very heart broken. And all this stuff.

BBS: It was very human towards [Brett Favre].

PK: Yeah. Which nobody wants anyway, and I knew that when I wrote it. That people would say, "Oh, here he goes again with Favre." But, to me, fuck, the Favre angle, in essence, is-- Why does that game have the biggest playoff ratings in 15 or 20 years, other than the Super Bowl? Because its got this Favre thing. Anyway, be that as it may, so I write this and by about 10 o'clock, and I don't sleep on Sunday night, and by about 10 o'clock when I'm on my way to the airport to go home, I pick up [the Blackberry] and I just look at Twitter. I must have had 150 tweets. "You Favre-loving asshole. We hate you and the horse you road in on. How dare you! Thanks for writing about the Colts and their great victory." And all this other stuff.

BBS: I'll be honest with you. I read your article, and I almost wrote something about that.

PK: Oh sure.

BBS: I was like, "COME ON! Manning's in the Super Bowl! Nothing? We don't get anything? Come on!"

PK: Yeah.

BBS: And I stopped myself from doing it because, I thought, let me read what hes gonna say first before-

PK: What I probably should have done is I should have explained what I did on Tuesday in Monday's column. But, quite honestly, its a friggin fire drill on Sunday night to finish all those things and to try to write a really good game story that 3 million people are gonna read three days later. So, I'm a little bit, you know, preoccupied with trying to do my job for the magazine. So, I thought of it, and then I thought, Oh fuck it. I'll deal with that tomorrow. And, those were the only times where I said, you know, have some idea of what it is that I do and the job that I have to do before you hang me to the cross and put the nails in.

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Part II will be posted later today.

[UPDATE]: Here is Part II.

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wow getting great insights here and loving it

The Horses font feet have cleared the huddle and as time slows it is also time for the back feet to clear and for us to declare victory!!!!! GO COLTS!!!
previously known as (ANGELSFAITH)

by TheAngelsColts on Feb 5, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

PERONI

Of course it was Peroni. Holy god man, drink a real beer.

Seems like a good guy, if he could curse in his columns I think he’d come across as much less pretentious.

by slash196 on Feb 5, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What's wrong with Peroni?

It’s a good beer – what kinds of beers do you like, slash?

by Reds_Colts1975 on Feb 5, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a passable lager

but it’s light and pale and there’s not much to grab ahold of. I like beers that beat you over the head with a bale of hops, then hold you down and have their way with you.

by slash196 on Feb 5, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awkward silence

and now I’m switching full time to whiskey.

by Reds_Colts1975 on Feb 5, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I cringed at Peroni, too

but only because of the taste – ick!

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Feb 5, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretension

I have always liked Peter King. His access to players personally, and superstars in particular has always been interesting. I am looking forward to part 2.

by soystert on Feb 5, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’ve never really had a huge problem with King, other than the random unrelated stuff he throws in. I mean, the coffee nerdness is just ridiculous. It has so little to do with football, it makes the stuff that actually has stuff to do with football less interesting. That, and it’d be nice if he’d take guys to task more often. I mean, Favre throws a game losing interception in the biggest game of the season again and he’s like, “Poor Misunderstood Favre.”, when it should have been “Favre, Franchise/Coach Killer, chokes again.”

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by MonkeyBusiness on Feb 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I can see how hectic his schedule was on that Sunday, but man the way he described favre in that column, talking about his daughter, all that heroic shit. it was frivolous prose not reporting.

by torontocoltsfan on Feb 5, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why do you guys hate Favre so much

Why cant we leave it at it was a good game . He had 300 yds ,playing with a broken ankle and had a stupid interception at the end. Adrian peterson had two fumbles, Bernard had one and a unbeleivable penalty by Tahi ( 12 man in the huddle ) took them out of field goal range.

Overtime again is pure luck.

King by giving an human angle and talking about favre’s daughter and why he came back to the game only gave an human touch to the whole thing.

Is that such a big sin reporting that after the game.

by Horseshoe_Tsunami on Feb 5, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's not a sin

It’s just that it’s a culmination of making him into the messiah by not just King but all of the MSM. His good ole boy gunslining style of play. I’m just not a fan of Favre and the way he’s portrayed in the media.

by torontocoltsfan on Feb 5, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just read the article ten minutes ago

And he did try to humanize Favre, but not before saying,

“It featured…(Favre) throwing yet another unfathomable interception that cost his team a chance to win a landmark game.”

So it’s not like he’s humping his leg throughout the piece.

by Naptime! on Feb 5, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

unfathomable interception?

But Tom Jackson said “That’s the thing about Brett Favre – he’s not afraid to throw an interception.” Maybe Jackson can explain it to King.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson IS smarter than King.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: THE COLTS ARE IN THE SUPER BOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Cassieper on Feb 7, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just skip over what I don't like...

I don’t like the travel/coffee crap, and he titles everything so it makes it very easy to skip.
I am a big fan of MMQB

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
-Peyton Manning

by ZayJack on Feb 5, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff

I jump on his writing as much as anyone else, mostly his analysis and some editorializing, but aside from being a Sox fan I always got the impression he was a much more likable guy than a reader might give him credit for. He’s not always right about football, but noone brings us the human side of the game more, and nobody can even come close to his SI articles.

I also respect the hell out of the fact that he’s willing to sit down with even his most vocal critics and be honest, accepting, and not defensive.

by willyduer on Feb 5, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This interview..

Just highlights why I can’t stand him. He’s more interested in a story than he is about reporting facts. Even if he doesn’t agree with what he writes, he does so anyway just because it creates conflict.

The guy could be the coolest guy in the world outside of work, and it sounds like he’s pretty laid back. But when you’re in a position to essentially manipulate peoples minds, you’re held to a higher standard than arguing for the sake of arguing. That’s what the term “Journalistic integrity” means.

Some of the people I can’t stand working with, but I like them on a personal level. But just because I think they’re alright outside of work doesn’t mean I’m going to give them a pass on shoddy work.

That's a BINGO!

by monstersbox on Feb 5, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He's actually

A Sports Writer, not a journalist per se. His job is to see what happens, get opinions, and make a compelling story out of it. He is not a beat writer. He writes editorials. It’s pretty plain to see.

I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation

by Bullard47 on Feb 5, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto!

I think people are having a hard time realizing who and what Peter King is. He’s not a reporter, a beat writer, or someone who should just stick to the facts. He’s paid by SI to find an interesting story related to a big game or big name player and write an article based on things that everyone else isn’t writing about.

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–noun 1. an article in a newspaper or other periodical presenting the opinion of the publisher, editor, or editors.

by NaptownMenace on Feb 5, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
-Peyton Manning

by ZayJack on Feb 5, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I told you guys PK wasn't THAT bad

gotta remember he’s human

Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.

by AJforAZ on Feb 5, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Article BBS.

It’s almost like being there. You have a dream job. I’m sure this week is a killer for you, work wise. But you’re doing great. Thanks for all the hard work. I hang on your every word.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Feb 5, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Us Saints fans are captivated as well

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 5, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Love the interview BBS

You’ve taken on a whole new personality in the last week and a half or so and I think it’s been some of your better writing in awhile.

BTW, I like PK and read MMQB every week. I don’t agree with everything he says, but when the hell is that going to happen with anyone? I get sick of people who are probably fat and out of touch calling him fat and out of touch.

I don’t gotta laugh at every Carrot Top joke to know he’s a world class comedian, ya know?

by beckmania on Feb 5, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's how I feel too

I don’t agree with all of what Peter King writes either, but I trust that what he’s writing is what he honestly feels about whatever the subject is or team he’s writing about. It’s his opinion based on what he’s been told or what he knows from being around the league for so long. He doesn’t seem to have an axe to grind or feel that he has to come out with something outrageous just to be buzz-worthy.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

be careful

Two things…

1. Imagine this. PK is simply doing his job (columnist, not reporter) to the best of his ability.
2. Be care BBS. If you keep doing good interviews like this, you might be called a media guy some day.

Yeah, I'm Shure.

by Music Man on Feb 5, 2010 5:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My biggest thing...

Is he’s the hugest name-dropper in the industry. He makes a point to mention all the “important” people and places he has access to. I guess that’s why I like a guy like Bill Simmons better (and yes, I’m a Colts fan…suck it). Simmons is not only a better writer, but even though he probably has access to plenty of famous athletes, he doesn’t rub it in his readers’ faces. He acts just as excited to be interviewing them as we would be, even though he’s been doing it for years. And I know his job is different; he’s supposed to be writing from a fan’s perspective. But it just kills me when PK, in the middle of a radio interview, just busts out with some text message he got from a player or coach, or mentions how he just got off the phone with someone important, like we’re supposed to give him a cookie or something.

Also, this goes back to the notion that he’s a “columnist” and not a “beat writer.” I get that. Most people do. But PK doesn’t seem to. He’s all about his sources, and mentioning the important events he attends, and maintaining this image that he’s the one and only exclusive sports writer in the biz. Sounds like a beat writer with tons of access to me, disguised as a columnist. Can’t have it both ways.

I do think it’s awesome that he agreed to sit down with BBS and blew off that d-bag from KSK. Tells you something about the operation they’re running over there.

"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"

by LukeNukem on Feb 5, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Simmons is NOT a better writer than King

He’s an idiot, pure and simple.

He has wised up and is kind of fellating Peyton and the 09 Yankees, but this is the same schmuck who wrote an entire column whining about non existent bad calls in the 2007 Colts-Pats game that the Pats WON a mere 2 seasons ago.

He has always been an entertaining read, but get real.

And if he had the cell phone numbers of any athlete besides Paul Shirley you bet your ass we’d all be reading about it every chance he got too.

by willyduer on Feb 5, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not true

Have you read any of his new book? Dude does his research, and interviews tons of athletes. He gets a face-to-face with Isaiah Thomas, keeps it real and keeps the fan-perspective thing going the whole time. I don’t know what to tell you about his Pats love. It’s annoying, but again, he’s writing specifically from the perspective of a Pats fan. It’d be like ESPN gave BBS or DZ a weekly column and just told them to write about whatever they wanted. They’d whine about Colts-related issues nobody else cares about just as much.

We can agree to disagree about who’s a better writer, but you’re flat wrong that he doesn’t have access or that he’s as big or a bigger name dropper than PK.

"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"

by LukeNukem on Feb 5, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And of course

The Zeke interview was relevant because Simmons has built part of his career on flaming the guy, and he still got the interview with him, which actually revealed some pretty in-depth perspectives on some of the things Simmons was flaming him for. Just in case you didn’t know the background. I can’t see PK doing that interview any better. And if he did, I have a feeling he’d be more annoying about it. Seems like he wants his sources to like him too much. Don’t respect that.

"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"

by LukeNukem on Feb 5, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Simmons is a Pats homer

However, he is completely upfront about it. That’s what makes it fun is because one can relate to the pain and euphoria that comes from rooting for your team.
PK on the other hand is a Pats homer, but claims to be objective. He admittedly only watches east coast games yet makes a judgment on all 32 teams in his column. Pisses me off.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 5, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He's no Pats homer

He pretends to be but criticizes them at every opportunity. With “homers” like that, who needs enemies?

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ewwwwwwwwwwww

that was unnecessary

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, after reading part 2

That was probably a little harsh.
Still don’t like the guy. But I have to admit, I always read his MMQB

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 5, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn't agree more, Luke

Condescending elitist braggart in his writing, and a HUGE east coast bias.
I’m so impressed/shocked he actually to the time to talk with a blogger. I’ll give him credit for that.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 5, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way...

Nice job BBS. You’ve shown a different side since the road trip.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BBS - this is awesome

Loved reading it and can’t wait for part two. Gives us great insight on PK.

by NYKings on Feb 5, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is the kind of article that I want to see here. Great job BBS!

by sandsnake on Feb 5, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow. is peter king okay with this? transcribing his foul language? this is great stuff!

by chaucer on Feb 6, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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