New Orleans high school student sent home for wearing Colts jersey to school
I had no idea fascism was the preferred form of government taught in the state of Louisiana's school system. Check out this story about Brandon Frost, a 17-year-old Maurepas High School student in New Orleans, LA:
While his classmates took advantage of a policy allowing them to trade their school uniforms for Saints jerseys and T-shirts, 17-year-old Brandon Frost, who grew up in Indianapolis, chose to wear a Colts jersey.But Frost didn't even have time to sit down in his first-period English class before the principal of his Livingston Parish school yanked him out of class and told him he was being sent home for the day because of his choice in attire.
I wonder if the tools running that high school goose-stepped as they marched Frost off school grounds.
Seriously, the kid grew up in Indianapolis and wanted to show his love for his team. Wearing the jersey bothered no one save the Nazi drones who run the school. Now, the story is all over the place, and it makes the state of Louisiana look like Deutschland, Deutschland über alles. No surprise that the Frost family has contacted the ACLU, which sent a formal letter to Der Leader at the high school, Steve Vampran (such an appropriate last name, I might add).
Is this "bad mojo" for the Saints? No. Stories like this are not going to affect that team, especially since they are here in South Florida while this is happening back in Louisiana. However, this does take a bit of the luster off Saints fans, portraying them as insane, conformist weirdos who will seek retribution on anyone who doesn't scream "Who Dat!"
And no, I do not think all Saints fans are Nazis. I don't even think a few of them are. I just think the "vampire" running Maurepas High School is a bit of a schmuck.
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Are all Colts fans morons?
Hey Big Blue Shoe…The article you wrote about the kid in New Orleans who got sent home for wearing a Colts jersey is moronic. As per your own admission the students were given a choice of wearing their school uniforms OR A SAINTS jersey/t-shirt. The kid in question wore NEITHER. There was no third option. He was violating the dress code. Period. If the offer had not been made to choose from the school uniform or Saints gear, and the kid showed up wearing Saints gear… You would have had the same result. This is a school dress code compliance issue, nothing more. Get over it.
by Go Saints!! on Feb 6, 2010 10:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nope, your wrong.
Nope, actually, they said jerseys, not specifically Saints. And believe me, if the ACLU is ALREADY involved, then I would assume they know the law, since its kinda what they do. But nice troll. Come back Sunday night at around 1145.
by Bippal on Feb 6, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually the story above is just off
the jersey type WAS specified as “saints jerseys”….the problem is the school legally can’t place that limitation.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes they can place limitations it's up to the school district what children wear
You clearly dont live in the south or understand it
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you are right about one thing
You certainly are right that I don’t live in the south, however, as a lawyer I do understand the constitution in most respects. If you read further down the thread you would see a more in depth argument, but to sum it up, yes schools ARE allowed to impliment dress codes. When doing so, however, they must be view point neutral and they must be applied equally to all students. In THIS particular case the school district offered a deviation from the dress code IF the students wore apparel supporting the saints. The dress code IS fine but their offered deviation is NOT view point neutral, it is biased and it then BECOMES an unprotected restriction of free speech. Basically …Dress code = fine when applied neutrally to everyone …Dress code= unconstituational when it is idea specific.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO PLACE IN AMERICA!!
You hippies and your ‘bill of rights’ and ‘civil liberties’.
Democracy died with a moan. =/
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the above is said by my american side.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
guess we arent
given that the type of jersey was not specified
by metal_militia on Feb 6, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Puh-leaze
If this had happened in Indy, you would be up in arms. This is an educator teaching our kinds that non-compliance is futile.
by indymike on Feb 6, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well technically....
My job has “Colts days” where we can wear jerseys to work. One night just for fun instead of a Colts jersey I wore my personal high school football jersey (with my name on the back). I was told to change or go home. So while I agree that the policy should allow the students to wear whatever jersey they want, the school does have the right to say “only Saints jerseys”
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by Picky on Feb 6, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the story is a little off and so is everyones legal view
Guys…First off in the AP story it says NO choice was given, the school offered to let the kids deviate from their dress code IF they wore saints jerseys. So while the young man didn’t follow that requirement (he wore a colts jersey), the problem at hand is that the school DOES NOT have the discretion to limit the type of jersey…that is why the ACLU has come in. As far as the comment about being told to go home in your work place, you are very wrongly associateing private business with public schools. You are willfully employed and your employer can set the dress code as he sees fit because you are being compensated for your work. The same does not hold true in school. Schools ARE allowed to limit free speech by instituting dress codes as long as those dress codes are viewpoint neutral and apply to everyone. Had the student showed up wearing something in violation of the dress code he WOULD be subject do discipline, however because the school promoted a deviatoin from the dress code they are NOT allowed to limit the type of jersey worn because then their dress code does not conform to the viewpoint-neutral standard. This is honestly a very simple legal issue and the bottom line is that if the school promotes a deviation from the dress code for a jersey, they have to expect and RESPECT the fact that by opening the door to the viewpoint to support one nfl team, they have to allow people with differing views to be allowed the same respect and priviliges of those granted to the people supporting the saints. Having been a long time colts fan I sympathize with New Orleans making it to their first super bowl, I remember how it felt in 06 to finally make it to the big game after years of disappointment and I support the fact that they are trying to pump up local support for the team, but they really should have checked with legal counsel before making any sort of disciplinarian action in this situation.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
tl;dr
but seriously, this is a great post, just find the carriage return.
And I’ll echo what I said below: The principal, if its being reported accurately, butchered the pig on this one. Horrid way to interact with a student.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
It definitely falls on the principal you couldn’t be more right. You should count on a person in that kind of position to be level headed and to patient enough to make informed decisions.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Belser's got it.
Rec’d.
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by J of the F on Feb 6, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the support!
AND I’d like to point out that you guys have a GREAT team and congratulations on an outstanding season. I couldn’t think of a better team to be matched up with in the super bowl. For the most part from top to bottom you guys have a very classy organization in my opinion and I see a lot of similarities to our team in the early 90’s. I remember what it was like for indy to finally make it in 06 after years of disappointment and it’s a terrific feeling. Colts fans should NOT let the actions of an over zealous principle reflect poorly on their views of the south or saints fans. Think about it indy…have we had a classier opponent in a big game? Enough said….best of luck to the saints and I hope to see a good game. Go horse!
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a rats @zz about the ACLU and what they think
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well...me for one...and I'd hope YOU
considering the point of the ACLU is to help locate supression of rights and to fight for equality as well as protect yours and my constitutional freedoms…I would hope EVERYONE cares what they think.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think i speak for most of the people where i copme from
The ACLU is a bunch of whiney bleeding heart liberals who want to impose their will on everyone one else to further the agenda of the crooked democratic party.
They are not taken serious where i come from and dont even bother to come to most the places in the south with their views are seen for whjat they really are.
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I find that very disturbing...
considering the ACLU was at the forefront of the fight to establish racial equality in the south in the 60’s. Also, it’s difficult to think of situations where the ACLU advocates something that would have a negative impact on an individual. Could you give me an idea of something they back or fight for that would cause a problem for a particular person or group? Or are you mainly just upset that a student was allowed to openly say he DOESN’T love the sains?
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the ACLU has its place
and this is bordering political discussion so we may be told to stop or get our comments deleted, BUT
They do however stick their noses in stuff that is really in no need of attention. Sometimes they are just annoying.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 6, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok no more politics
But the kid with the Colts jersey was wrong
He has to wear a uniform like all kids ,my kids wore them growing up and complained like everyone else about them.
This was a special treat for the children to get to wear a Saints shirt to school it doesnt matter if it was wrong to limit it to Saints shirts that was the rule
So i see no problem with sending the kid home or making him change into a school uniform.
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mississippisaintsfan
I HATE politics so I’m with ya, BUT, you are missing the argument here. School uniforms ARE allowed…they are FINE…as LONG AS THEY ARE VIEWPOINT NEUTRAL. For instance as long as it furthers an educational goal a school can say NO STUDENT CAN WEAR JERSEYS OF ANY KIND that is a valid limitation on free speech afforded to schools and placed in their discretionary powers because it isn’t biased…it applies to EVERY kind of jersey. But once the school offered to allow students to wear something OTHER than the school uniform, they are constitutionally not allowed to limit that deviation to a certain point of view (ie saying ONLY saints jerseys). I’m not arguing as a colts fan, I’m arguing as a person in the legal field and as a proponent of constitutional rights.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what your saying
But the problem here should be with the policy of only Saints shirts not with the principle who sent him home
There is a school board which every school administrator has to answer to.
If the parents of this kid fealt like there son was mis-treated they should have gone to the school board about it.
Or better yet they should have addressed it before hand not just let their son wear what he wants to and get upset when it back fires on him
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
now THAT
Is the best and most logical point i’ve heard from saints fans on the subject and I TOTALLY agree with you. Neither side handled this well. The only problem I have with the principal, was that it seems like from the two versions of the story I read, that he was the one who came up with the “saints support day” and implemented it. If I’m wrong or someone with local knowledge can correct that assumption I’d appreciate it. The other problem I have is that a school administrator (i.e. schoolboard member) should have the foresight or knowledge to understand that limiting people who don’t share the same view point would cause problems and that it’s not allowed. The principal, being the head of faculty in the building, should know before he deals with a perceived problem whether he actually should be doing so. If he would have spent 15 minutes in his office doing research BEFORE he pulled the boy out of class or if he had done so before the situation even occured (like I believe a responsible principal should) this could have been dealt with in a far more efficient way.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agree with this point but as far as let your kid where such and such shirt.
I think you mentioned you have a kid in High school or something so I am sure you know that at least MOST students do not have much say in what shirts there kids wear let alone what cloths in general.
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 7, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well actually I did have a say so
Because they had to wear scvhool uniforms.
Most the school districts where i live in south ms. require school uniforms.
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 7, 2010 7:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true....
I THINK we’ll get a pass since this particular football issue revolves around constitutional rights and the story involves the aclu…hopefully lol. I can definitely see where it seems like they are always stickin their noses into issues, but at the same time, that IS their business, to insure the rights we are given and to make sure the law protects them or progressively changes to better them. Sometimes they have to nit pick and minor situations in order to draw attention to small problems as a means of PREVENTING future larger problems that could occur from leaving the issue unattended. Basically, the situation could have EASILY been handled without them, but being super bowl week they may have SHOVED their noses in as fast as they could in order to illustrate a problem that’s widespread throughout many school corporations in America. It’s obviously something that not alot of people have knowledge of if you look at the large number of people that think the boy who wore the colts jersey was in the wrong, so I think mainly they are interested in using the publicity to raise awarness to school administrators across the country.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
..........

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by shake n bake on Feb 6, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just a tidbit
But hey, what if a child appared at school with a Saints jersey in Indiana? Ok, they’re moronic by authorizing their students to don’t wear uniforms if they wanted to, and even worse by not specifying which jersey they should’ve worn. But maybe it’d happen in any other state. Whose fault is this in the end? School’s fault, of course
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by trOOly on Feb 6, 2010 11:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not a problem
There was a story in the Star about the family of Courtney Roby. His brother goes to high school here and it said he wore Saints stuff on days when they were allowed to wear Colts stuff and he wasn’t heckled or sent home because people in Indiana have brains.
This is the South. School or not he’s not going to learn anything except that the Civil War was “the War of Northern Aggression.”
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by Colts Homer on Feb 6, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the most ridiculous story of the week
on many levels.
For the record the option was Saints gear or regular uniform. I don’t see why they didn’t just say jersey of either team or regular uniform. Pretty dumb.
Without getting too political, the fact the ACLU is involved is hilarious/innapropriate/just another sign of the decline of civilization.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 6, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
They saved his life by sending him home
by DrWhoDat on Feb 6, 2010 11:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
That just makes New Orleans sounds like such a better place.
I also wish I had time and motivation to blog at Speed Blue Nation
by Bullard47 on Feb 6, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, and in small town like that, the police will be setting speed traps for his parents.
by DrWhoDat on Feb 6, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It sound as if
some Saints fans want to be more like Eagles fans
by Tw3ek on Feb 6, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
I live in New York, and yeah I got heckled when the Jets played Colts in the AFCCG but no one would lay a hand on me and Jets fans are horrible. I don’t understand how “Saving his life” makes their city sound any better.
by NYKings on Feb 6, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All of a sudden
It seems to be like a England city where you can’t wear Chalsea jerseys in Manchester, or the young hooligans will rape you
Quitters never win, but cheaters sometimes do
by trOOly on Feb 6, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are not helping
Saints fans… well… are the worst in the NFL.
by indymike on Feb 6, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you haven't met many fans
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 6, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
very true
As a colts fan I can honestly say 90% of the saints fans I’ve spoken with have been good natured, supportive of their team, and well versed in general football knowledge. This is the type of fan you should respect AS a fan no matter who you cheer for. Every team has obnoxious and unknowledgable fans but they are GENERALLY the minority and should not reflect on the fan base as a whole. The saints have a great team and for the most part they have stand up guys throughout the organization. If anyone can sympathize with them it should be us colts fans! C’mon! don’t we all remember what it was like to finally make it to the top in 2006 after YEARS of disappointment??? Of course I’m pulling for the colts tooth and nail but I wish nothing but luck to the saints fans and definitely congratulate them on a great season.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Redneck...........
‘nough said. I tried to live in the south 35 years ago, knew immediately it wasn’t going to work. Some things never change.
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by wolfman57 on Feb 6, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice job, moron...
Some of these “educators” – especially the tenured ones – are complete blithering morons. Take a kid who WANTS to be in school – which can be a challenge at times – and send him home because they don’t care for the dye color of the fabric on his shirt. You’re brilliant…. absolutely brilliant. But, I’ve seen this picture before in my youth. People in positions of power abhor those who excercise any of their own discretion at all. It’s mind control time for these kiddies. They’re not trusted to think on their own! That’s the way to build new leaders. My advice to you kid is to submit and fall into lockstep for the remainder of your days in that Nazi youth camp they call a school, and once you gain your freedom – go do great things with your life, Colts fan or not.
by Ashkaga on Feb 6, 2010 11:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
its the south! what else is new. when the gators won the national championship, we did the same thing in our school…if you wore a florida state jersey or tshirt you had to call your parents and either go home or put on another shirt. I wore my iowa hawkeyes shirt and they didnt DARE ask me to go home or wear another shirt OR ANYTHING for that matter. they knew how I felt about the gators and they also knew I wasnt about to take any of their hee haw crap
by kinnickcolt on Feb 6, 2010 12:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I feel for this kid
I grew up in Detroit, but moved to Indianapolis a year ago. I still wear my Lions jersey during football season and rarely get heckled (although I do get tons of comments about how I must be insane). This principal is just a power tripping jackoff. Why should he care what team the kid roots for?
by Tw3ek on Feb 6, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You dont get heckled because half of the county doesnt realize Detroit has a pro football team
And the other half dont care
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the student was one of Manning’s relatives?
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
by WarWolf on Feb 6, 2010 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you write this now
but next year when you meet Fascism in person, you’ll have a beer with it and talk about how its just misunderstood and is good ‘in theory’.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fascism=media schmucks
since BBS has been getting along with them and talking nice about them here.
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by shake n bake on Feb 6, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
m tlkng bt th ntrnt
bng srs bznss
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will he still be wearing his care bear costume?
Because Facism’s kinky like that.
by diagenesis on Feb 6, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol
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by Addai Another Aday on Feb 6, 2010 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If we didn't think New Orleans is fascistic after reading the article
the Saints trolls responses should convince us, which basically boiled down to; you’ll support the Saints, or else!!!
Bloomington, IN is Rex Grossman’s hometown and his father is a prominent opthalmologist who owns the local LASIK clinic.
The eye clinic and many other parts of town were decked out with Bears banners, etc. during the Super Bowl XLI week. I’d be willing to bet several students at Bloomington South HS (Rex’s alma mater) who knew Rex wore Bears gear as well.
Guess what? No one cared, and no one got mad, they simply wished them “Good Luck”.
by HoosierHorseman on Feb 6, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
from the article
It seems the other Louisianans (the students) weren’t bothered by his jersey. It sounds to me like the school has some sort of power tripping moron for a disciplinarian. But do y’all really think this warrants the ACLU’s involvement? It sounds from the article like the disciplinarian has already been reprimanded and the student will not face any consequences. I wouldn’t let this stupid incident cause you to make broad generalizations/stereotypes about the South.
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by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 6, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
once the principal acts the way he *allegedly* did
the ACLU MUST get involved, imo. You should have 100% faith and trust in the people you leave your children with for 8ish hours a day. The principal violated that trust.
Even if the school had the same internal reaction but handled it as adults, it wouldnt have been in issue, imo, its the fact that they spoke to and treated the kid as they did. “You don’t think like we do, why don’t you leave the state?”
To a kid?
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I read it that the school had addressed the issue before the ACLU
I’m certainly not defending the school, but I think it could be handled without a press frenzy. It sounds to me like the kids dad wanted to bring media attention to it.
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 6, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i would have called the ACLU, too
if they acted like this. Unless they apologized sincerely before then. If they realized immediately that they reacted poorly and made amends quickly, fine. But if I called and said something and they responded with arrogance, the shit would have clogged the fan.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have laughed.
But I don’t think I would have called the ACLU.
It’s a fucking jersey for Christ sake.
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by J of the F on Feb 6, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think you understand the point
One day, when you get out of day care, make it through elementary school and then junior high and then high school and then your trade school and then your prison term you’ll buy some woman on the internet to marry and maybe she will give you a child in exchange for her freedom and then when that kid is in school we can discuss this on equal footing until then all punctuation marks are dead.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The father called the ACLU.
From what I can tell, all they did was send a strongly worded letter. The ACLU does impact litigation and this doesn’t qualify. This case is over.
by ActionOxford on Feb 6, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
totally agreed
generalizations are exactly the type of backward thinking that caused this problem in the first place. You are very right that the situations seems to be well handled by the administration above the principal, and yes the ACLU tends to jump into things in an “opportunist” sort of way when it isn’t always necessary. In this case, however, I think they have been looking for an instance to illustrate schools discretionary power and how it’s sometimes interpreted in an over broad manner…if you want publicity and social awareness, this is the week to get it.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For some more perspective on Louisiana's backwards attitudes/ignorance...
Check out my fan post. I initially wrote it as a comment to this thread but ended up with a bit too much to say for just a thread comment :)
by LAcoltsFAN on Feb 6, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
don't worry I'll get to addressing that silly post next
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 6, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think comparing to Nazi's is a little insensitive
You know, since sending someone home from school compares to the MASS MURDER of millions.
Anyhow, it is complete idiocy that a kid was thrown out for wearing a jersey by the principal. You would expect the immaturity out of some students, but not the “educators”
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by MrNFL on Feb 6, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Smart move.
He’s probably gonna get PAID when he sues them.
by HappyLittleTreez on Feb 6, 2010 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I must've missed the part about the jerseys not being specified.
Cause I read it twice, and it says Saints jersey. We used to be able to wear Spurs shirts on game days during the playoffs. If you wore a Lakers, Mavs, Sun, etc. shirt, you got sent home for being out of dress code. It may be a shitty, unfair rule; but it’s still a rule.
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by Addai Another Aday on Feb 6, 2010 1:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
you are right ...AND wrong
it DOES say just saints jersey…however if the school allows a deviation from a viewpoint-neutral dress code, they can NOT make the deviation viewpoint-biased or it becomes an unconstituational limitation on free speech. If they allow jerseys as a deviation that’s fine, if they limit the TYPE of jersey then that’s outside their discretion and power. If you faced a similar situation perhaps YOU sohuld have contacted the ACLU because you have a ligitimate argument against such treatment.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think that this is right
(im not saying your interpretation of the situation is incorrect, but that I dont think they can make one specific laxation of the rules.)
I’m glad the ACLU exists, I think it should be involved more, but I’m glad they are getting involved in this case. Even if the kid was violating some dress code, there’s a MUCH better way of handling it. "Go back to Indiana’? The principal should be fired for violating the first rule of being in child development.
Then again, I’m a bleeding-heart liberal.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get out of here pinko!
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by Colts Homer on Feb 6, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll leave
as soon as i raise your taxes to pay for social programs.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
*sorry
Im not turning this into a political discussion, I really am a pinko that wants to help all of society.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I am joking
And probably agreeable with you on politics.
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by Colts Homer on Feb 6, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you've already been flagged.
Don’t worry, I’m pretty thick skinned when it comes to politics. Besides, I didn’t figure you were serious:)
I figure if I’m going to hit on everything with *2 legs I should probably be able to take some abuse in return.
*Negotiable.
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's okay
I’ve spent time at CSC and if you make a joke over there someone has to freak out. I’m being careful now not to make the types of threads I hate (a good post where I see 100 comments and 90 end up being bitching over semantics).
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by Colts Homer on Feb 6, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop calling everyone Fascists
Fascists were middle-class industrialists who beat up Communists. More like an authority insecure about his seat of power than a Fascist. These distinctions are still significant. I wish you’d just go back to calling everyone with whom you disagree a “schmuck.”
by Louisville Soul Train on Feb 6, 2010 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the Commies were probably asking for it
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by AJforAZ on Feb 6, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what if they are fascist schmucks?
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by SpazMo on Feb 6, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fascism is an authoritative style of governance in which the government takes over a nation
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 6, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh, let's try that again
Fascism is an authoritative style of governance in which the government takes over a nation’s industry and produces whatever it wants in whatever quantity it desires. Germany decided to produce capital goods and weapons of war. Fascist countries could also decide to produce flower-power tee shirts and bumper stickers. Its a commonly misused term, especially in America.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 6, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPECIALLY
in America.
Just a further argument that civics should be taught from grades six through twelve.
by linkish on Feb 6, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
who dat sounds like oooow crap
(rex ryan voo do) I hope it puts carma on aints colts 27-17…its just a game the kid should support what he believes in, are they going to say you cant were different jerseys at home games the kid should have bet the principal 50 on the game.
by jrcjr on Feb 6, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
This story reminds me of one I heard before the 2005 AFCCG (PIT @ DEN for those of you with selective memories). A student wore a John Elway jersey to school in a suburban Pittsburgh district. In one class they were taking a test, and when the teacher noticed his jersey she made him sit on the floor for the remainder of the period while other students threw pieces of paper at him. He got what was coming to him the ensuing Sunday! :-)
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 6, 2010 7:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HELPING TO REBUILD NEW ORLEANS
I dont think they thought of all the people from all over the United States rushing to their aid during the Katrina crisis. Yes, that would include Colt’s fans. If the kid wanted to get a rise from all the Saint’s fans, let him. Rise above it. Your suppose to be an adult. Scary that their educators cannot do this. Just a shirt!
by LODEM on Feb 6, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This thread should have been over before it started.
Godwin disapproves. Mightily.
"I definitely believe in destiny, and I believe in karma and what goes around comes around. We have been on the other side of this deal probably too many times. Maybe it's our time that we start catching some of the breaks, and start being the team that wins them like this in the end." -- Drew Brees
by J of the F on Feb 6, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Damn yankee agitator
He should learn to obey the rules it said Saints gear not Colts gear good job to the principle
by mississippisaintsfan on Feb 6, 2010 8:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what is with this Yankee shit?
is it the 1830s still?
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by AJforAZ on Feb 6, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
as stated further up the board.....
You are making the same mistake that the principle in this particular situation did. He (as should you) should have conducted research or consulted legal counsel before he made the dermination that his jersey restriction was allowed and that it was appropriate to single the student out and remove him from his first period class. While I’m the first to agree that schools should promot a save environment that is conducive to learning, don’t always be so quick to assume that every rule made is an appropriate one. Let me put it in different terms, would you think it was fair if the administration of the school gave the children an opportunity to deviate from the dress code for the day…but ONLY if they wore republican t-shirts or clothes supporting the republican party? Rules and structure are great and some limitations on free speech are necessary in school environments but there is a certain line that is well drawn by case law that cannot be crossed.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Listen to belser
He uh, knows wtf he’s talking about.
Private institutions/schools are not bound by state law in regards to dress code, so they can place further restrictions/limitations on free speech, correct?
You have public policy, and then you have private policy.
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by J of the F on Feb 6, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep mostly
Schools have a right to limit free speech to the extent that the limitation shows a specific goal of furthering education and promoting safety AND as long as said limitation is viewpoint neutral and it’s applied equally to all students.
by belser on Feb 6, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He should have went home like a true Southener and got his gun
by DrWhoDat on Feb 6, 2010 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ha
now that’s funny
In Breesus' name we play
by Breesus Christ Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yes it was.
I was at a rental storage in Monroe, getting boxes upon boxes of Bath and Body Works crap for my (at the time) girlfriend. Not the most backwoods area in the state, certainly, but nonetheless there were sporadic gunshots in a small wooded area just over the fence. This was only my second or third time in Looooooosiana, and I thought to myself, “holy shit, these people are as insane about hunting as the people in Michigan.”
Ahh, memories.
by linkish on Feb 7, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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