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Derek Anderson takes a dump on Cleveland Browns fans

Before someone gets smart; yes, this article does relate to the Indianapolis Colts even though the title makes no mention of them.

Remember back in 2008 when the Colts traveled to Cleveland and played the Browns on a sloppy, cold field? We saw then-Browns coach Romeo Crennel attempt to play "keep away" from the Colts offense, doing as little as possible with his own offense and maximizing his defense's potential to stall the Colts offense.

Well, the Browns quarterback for that game was Derek Anderson, who has been a Pro Bowler the year before for the surprising 10-6 Browns. But, in 2008, luck and timing just were not on Cleveland's side. They were the dregs of the AFC North once again, and the often-notorious rabble that is the "Dawg Pound" was getting restless.

For much of the contest with the Colts, the Browns had the lead. However, in the fourth quarter, Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney took over. We blogged about it at the time:

At about the 10 minute mark in the 4th quarter, Derek Anderson dropped back to complete a 3rd and long. Dwight Freeney bull rushed arguably the best LT in football (Joe Thomas) and stripped the ball from Anderson. Robert Mathis found the fumble, scooped it up, and ran 37 yards for a TD. After the extra point: Colts 10-Browns 6.

Game. Set. Match.

After they lost the lead, the gameplan for the Browns was scrapped. The next series, Derek Anderson needed to drive the length of the field and score a TD to get the win. The results were disastrous and embarrassing for the Cleveland Browns and their fans.

With less than a minute to go on 2nd down, Anderson was sacked by Robert Mathis, who copied Freeney by bull rushing the RT this time. He knocked the tackle into Anderson, which resulted in a sack. Anderson injured his MCL on the play, and sadly his season is over. Back-up Ken Dorsey came in and promptly threw a pick to Antoine Bethea (keeping with the Melvin Bullitt and Bob Sanders tradition of safeties coming up with big INTs to win games this year).

When Anderson was injured on that play, several thousand Browns fans did what fans are never supposed to do in any situation.

They cheered the injury.

Now, this cheering was not just heard by the Colts, the Browns faithful, and everyone else in attendance. It was heard, and remembered with bitter detail, by Derek Anderson. Anderson was released from the Browns yesterday as part of new football czar Mike Holmgren's efforts to put his stamp on the club.

Before departing Cleveland, Anderson took the time to bitch-slap the Browns fans that cheered his injury in 2008:

"The fans are ruthless and don't deserve a winner," Anderson said.  "I will never forget getting cheered when I was injured.  I know at times I wasn't great. I hope and pray I'm playing when my team comes to town and [we] roll them."

My first reaction is to applaud Anderson. Any fan who cheers an injury is a scumbag and deserves a swift kick to the balls. For years, I watched Dan Marino torch my Colts, but I never, EVER heard any Colts fan cheer when Marino went down with an Achilles injury in the early 1990s. We also had some truly awful teams in Indy for damn near 20 years, and I never saw fans cheer a Colts player's unfortunate injury. Not even Jeff George.

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So, yes. The Cleveland Browns fans who cheered that injury are douchebags and clearly do not deserve a winner. Obviously, not all Browns fans cheered that moment, but the injury and the euphoria that followed were yet another black mark on a fanbase that is known for this sort of stuff.

I'd have more respect for Anderson if he stuck to his words and followed them up by destroying the Browns every chance he got. Unfortunately, he chickened out and issued an apology statement.

I'm an equal opportunity basher. If I ever attended a Colts game that featured fans cheering the injury of someone like Tim Jennings (a player many Colts fans loathed), I'd log in here and start attacking the character and intelligence of the very fanbase who reads this blog. As fans, we are given a lot of wiggle room. We're allowed to get embarrassingly drunk before the game, shout insults that would make your grandmother's heart stop to players during the game, and call-in to talk radio shows just to demand the head coach's head on a pike after the game.

However, the unwritten rule of fandom is you never, EVER cheer an injury. People who do not understand or abide by this rule are people who deserve nothing less than 30 minutes in a confined space with a starved, rapid mountain lion.

Hopefully, Anderson will land on his feet. I certainly would not mind seeing him here in Indy as a back-up to Peyton Manning, but that won't happen. Teams like the Rams, Vikings, Seahawks, and Cardinals will likely make strong plays for Anderson who sports a ton of talent.

Also, once again I'll stress that not all Browns fans cheered that injury, and I'm sure a few more got into it with their own for doing so. Those people I respect. But, that still doesn't excuse the tens of thousands who cheered as Derek Anderson's knee inflated to the size of a grapefruit. Those people are truly scum.

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by John Bena on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

You forgot

your height, weight, home address, eye color and zodiac sign. Please also include your social security number so I can rob you.

You should come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo until I google all over your facebook.

by tlenker on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice one.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

your right and that is just sad

Co-Leader of yearly 7 round live mock draft at MtD

by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

What's sad is

I can’t stop making snarky comments on this blog site. I think I need a 12 step program.

You should come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo until I google all over your facebook.

by tlenker on Mar 10, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

isn't this only your second comment?

Co-Leader of yearly 7 round live mock draft at MtD

by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparantly

It’s contagious. I’ll enroll you with me TAC.

You should come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo until I google all over your facebook.

by tlenker on Mar 10, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

NVM

Co-Leader of yearly 7 round live mock draft at MtD

by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

I would probably need a 30 step program.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is truly sad.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree with you more

rec’d

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

I remember that game,

and I thought, I’m glad I don’t live in Cleveland. If I remember right, weren’t the fans wanting Brady Quinn to play instead of Anderson?

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

I’m glad I don’t live in Cleveland.

I think that all the time… wait what were we talking about?

by invisibulman on Mar 10, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they were wanting Quinn...

Worked out REAL well for them, lemme tell ya :)

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by etid5353 on Mar 10, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think Quinn could have been better in a different system.

Call me crazy.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy.

Just kidding :) You’re probably right, the Browns are a cursed team. If he QB’d for a decent O.C. or an offensive minded H.C. he’d probably be talked about differently.

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by etid5353 on Mar 10, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Too bad he is in Cleveland…

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

Stewie: "Lois, Lois, Mom, mom, mommy, mommy, momma, momma, ma, ma, mom, mom, mom."
Louis Griffin- "WHAT!?"
Stewie:- "Hi" (runs off, LOL)

by BlueMark1821 on Mar 10, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Anderson would have been better in a different city.

Cleveland is bad for a reason, and it’s not just the players. That entire organization is bad business.

If you drink O'Douls, you don't drink. But if you drink 20 O'Douls in a half hour, then you're a [bleep]ing non-alcoholic. Non-alcoholism is a problem too. And there are symptoms, like when you fall down, does it always hurt?
- Mitch Hedberg, April 9, 2002

by ArithMattic on Mar 10, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't have a team logo, that's a bad start...

I mean they have the dog and everything, and I know they are the “Browns” but I mean, c’mon. Come up with something better, redefine the franchise…

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

Stewie: "Lois, Lois, Mom, mom, mommy, mommy, momma, momma, ma, ma, mom, mom, mom."
Louis Griffin- "WHAT!?"
Stewie:- "Hi" (runs off, LOL)

by BlueMark1821 on Mar 10, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought Bill Belichick could make something of him.

But then I’d have to hate him.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And that's a bad thing?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cheering an injury is just classless...

But then again, this is Cleveland we’re talking about. I can’t wait for them to lose LeBron so that they’ll just disappear off the face of the sports planet again.

Anyway, I rec’d the post. Couldn’t agree more.

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by etid5353 on Mar 10, 2010 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

Didn't that sloppy field get Brackett hurt?

Thanks, Cleveland.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 10, 2010 11:07 AM EST reply actions  

Incorrect.

Brackett got hurt when there was a pile after a play and someone bent his leg to a very unnatural position.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

"... 30 minutes in a confined space with a starved, rapid mountain lion."

Because a half hour in a confined space with a starved, leisurely mountain lion is altogether tolerable. Photobucket

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

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by E.M.H. on Mar 10, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

And okay, on a serious note:

Cheering an injury is about as low as a fan can get in the stands. Not even opposing players, who’s careers depend on being able to defeat opponents, cheer such a thing.

That’s why I’m glad to see injured opposition players get applauded by a home squad’s fans. Even if it’s perfunctionary, it’s a gesture of goodwill, and an acknowledgement that it’s still all just a game.

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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."

Roger Ebert, Transformers review.

by E.M.H. on Mar 10, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Fans only boo in LOS when they are sure that they are faking the injury.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

certainly

cheering for an injury is pretty low outside of old school WWF and the like. however, DA noting that he can’t wait to come back and roll the Browns with his new team came across as a little bratty – especially since he will likely be riding the pine for a new team.

by Rocky Top Manning on Mar 10, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

I don't get bratty at all...

He could start if he is in Carolina…maybe even Arizona. Good for him…

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by TRDean on Mar 10, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I guess it’s more comical than anything to hear a one hit wonder QB (who’s currently not employed, and likely looking to only compete for a starting job – at best) talking about rolling the Browns next time they play. It’s funny cause he has no team, and rolling the Browns is not an achievement anyone should be proud of.

by Rocky Top Manning on Mar 10, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey! Don't pick on my Lions!

We have great hopes for this year…

3-13…

so there…

Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.

by teej813 on Mar 10, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Aim high!

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anderson can be a very good QB...

I don’t put the blame on Anderson or Quinn in Cleveland. That is the worst run organization in the NFL. I think he is going to be a solid QB in the league…and really, no matter who he goes to, they will most likely roll the browns!!

"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado

by TRDean on Mar 10, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Worse than the Lions or Redskins?

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

Stewie: "Lois, Lois, Mom, mom, mommy, mommy, momma, momma, ma, ma, mom, mom, mom."
Louis Griffin- "WHAT!?"
Stewie:- "Hi" (runs off, LOL)

by BlueMark1821 on Mar 10, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

How could I forget Al Davis?

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

Stewie: "Lois, Lois, Mom, mom, mommy, mommy, momma, momma, ma, ma, mom, mom, mom."
Louis Griffin- "WHAT!?"
Stewie:- "Hi" (runs off, LOL)

by BlueMark1821 on Mar 10, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

and

I had forgotten about that ugly browns game from the 08 season, remember manning fumbled the QB sneak into the endzone and the rare kenny stabler rule came into play.

by Rocky Top Manning on Mar 10, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Our defense won that game for us.

It was brutal.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate that DA apologized...

He said it, he meant it – stand by it!

Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!

by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Mar 10, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

AFC North?

It might be an AFC North thing. I was at the Colts @ Ravens game in 2004 or 2005 and Kyle Boller went down with an serious injury and the place erupted with cheers. I couldn’t believe it. Classless. The backup at the time was Anthony Wright. People in Baltimore are excited about that? Really?

by DFreeney on Mar 10, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

You mean the place

where it is the Indianapolis Professional Football team vs. Ravens?

by FineClub on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at a Super Bowl party, there was a guy there from Baltimore.

He was rooting for the Saints needless to say. I wanted to throw hot wings at him…..but that would be wasting good food!

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at Disney right before the SB wearing my Colts gear

and Disney security guard told me he was joking with a guy wearing a Ravens jersey. The security guy was a Giants fan so he was giving the Baltimore guy some grief. Turns out, the Baltimore guy was a player and wasn’t amused.

by FineClub on Mar 10, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Aww, geez... LOL... that brings to mind a certain Mastercard commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mfDJ02VCY&feature=player_embedded

Maid: “Take a hike.”
Peyton: “You know, I’m gonna do that… weather here’s sweet!”

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by E.M.H. on Mar 10, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You should have done it anyway.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.

by Cassieper on Mar 15, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

good for Anderson

I think we are all in agreement that no matter how frustrated fans are.. cheering an injury is not the answer.

by RRick on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome to Pittsburg, Mr Anderson

Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.

by teej813 on Mar 10, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm out of the loop, explain. Please.

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They're referring to the possibility that Roethlisberger

will be “otherwise unavailable,” due to his alleged sexcapades

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Mar 10, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha,

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

CBS reported that the Georgia woman

had given physical evidence of DNA at hospital. The event apparently happened in the club’s bathroom. Even if consensual, that is like no class whatsoever. I am sure the Commissioner will be less than pleased either way.

by FineClub on Mar 10, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually agree with BBS, hell has frozen over

Indeed, those who cheer injuries = Douchebags to the nth degree.

Insert Clever Statement Here

by MrNFL on Mar 10, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

According to Schefter

The Browns are also considering trading Brady Quinn…

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

Stewie: "Lois, Lois, Mom, mom, mommy, mommy, momma, momma, ma, ma, mom, mom, mom."
Louis Griffin- "WHAT!?"
Stewie:- "Hi" (runs off, LOL)

by BlueMark1821 on Mar 10, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Poor poor Jimmy...

However, I believe the Seahawks will pick Clausen.

"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady

Stewie: "Lois, Lois, Mom, mom, mommy, mommy, momma, momma, ma, ma, mom, mom, mom."
Louis Griffin- "WHAT!?"
Stewie:- "Hi" (runs off, LOL)

by BlueMark1821 on Mar 10, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Clausen is low on my list. I don't like his attutude for some reason.

Raiders?

"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

by Indy Lori on Mar 10, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto.

I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I just don’t like Clausen.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Mar 10, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

As a purdue fan,

It’s easy XD

He played for Notre Dame!
More seriously I think he has a ton of talent but he’s a SoCal boy with a bad case of entitlement. He might surprise me but I have little faith in his ability to do well in the pros. Charlie Weis ruins the career of another bright young quarterback before it even starts…

by McAfee#1 on Mar 11, 2010 3:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Anderson's Slaming of Browns Fans

Certainly, any fans who were actually cheering because he was injured are the worst kind of degenerate human beings. They should be at NASCAR races hoping for a crash. I do, however, suspect that some of the cheering (misguided and ill-timed as it may have been) may have been by rabid Brady Quinn fans seeing him warming up and preparing to enter the game. At least I hope so. Dave Zastudil, the punter, is my cousin and if he was injured or any other player (either team) and somebody near me started cheering(drunk or sober) I am sure I would be engaged in a bruhaha , which I’d probably lose(I’m an old fart). So as an optimist, Mr. Anderson, believe that they were cheering for Brady coming in—not your injury. After all, this isn’t Pittsbad!

by jjz on Mar 10, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Steelers fans don't cheer for injuries

Clowns fans don’t have a choice.

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Can't you just feel the love?

by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 10, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Delhomme

is set to meet with the Browns. Looks like Quinn may be out too

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!

by coltsfan723 on Mar 10, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Can't understand what the rational is behind cutting Quinn

At least the guy has potential. The system is shit for him, but he had decent games before he got injured, and you trade away the only competent receiver they have, can’t expect great QB play.

Is Delhomme really a much better option than Quinn at this point? It’s a rebuilding team anyway.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 10, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

big benny

i hate to say this but (big benny) is sick, he needs help! he is stupid, to irresponsable . all that fame and fortune .he needs a really good dr. but we all no he will get out of this one just cause he’s a good q. b . just like before . he’s nasty! he needs to sit this one out" and stay home!just an opinion good luck u butt pirate .

by wuddawg on Mar 11, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

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