With the 2nd Pick in the 2010 Stampede Blue Community Mock Draft, the Detroit Lions select...
by mgrex03 on Mar 15, 2010 1:00 PM EDT
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Russell Okung, OT - Oklahoma State
Pick made by coltsfan723:
I gotta think that with the Lions acquiring [DT Corey] Williams from the Browns, they won't go with [DT Ndamukong] Suh on their pick. Instead they will take a beast LT to protect [QB Matt] Stafford's blind side. Adding Suh to the defensive front would force Detroit to dedicate too many resources to the defensive tackle position.
While Suh is the Best Player Available, Okung will fill a spot of need for the Lions. With all the moves in free agency this spot is a BIG need for the Lions. The Bears signed Julius Peppers. That means the Lions will have to go up against Peppers, Jared Allen and Clay Matthews - three of the top pass-rushers in the NFL - six times a year. Can they really trust Jeff Backus to protect Matthew Stafford's blind side? So I think they take Russell Okung.
How much impact will Okung have in 2010? (mgrex03's thoughts)
Tackles transition quickly to the NFL, especially when you take them in the top 5. Expect Okung to start Week 1, doing exactly what coltsfan723 said: Protecting Stafford's blind side.
If Okung is taken #2 by the Lions, it would be the 4th OT taken in the first round since 2000 by the Lions (Gosder Cherilus, Jeff Backus, & Stockar McDougle). It will also be the first top 5 pick for an Oklahoma State player since Barry Sanders went #3 in 1989.
Okung's Scouting Report from Mocking the Draft
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| Pos | Team | Player | Pos | School | Drafter |
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| 1 | St. Louis | Jimmy Clausen | QB | Notre Dame | TouchdownColts |
| 2 | Detroit | Russell Okung | OT | Oklahoma St. | coltsfan723 |
| 3 | Tampa Bay | TheAngelsColts | |||
| 4 | Washington | Colts Homer | |||
| 5 | Kansas City | sanders_fan89 | |||
| 6 | Seattle | shake n bake | |||
| 7 | Cleveland | 2ndBlueGeneration | |||
| 8 | Oakland | LovinBlue | |||
| 9 | Buffalo | Cassieper | |||
| 10 | Jacksonville | peytonsthebest | |||
| 11 | Denver | JPBarnett | |||
| 12 | Miami | fpacheco | |||
| 13 | San Francisco | BlueVol03 | |||
| 14 | Seattle | shake n bake | |||
| 15 | N.Y. Giants | gizzardfanny | |||
| 16 | Tennessee | Addai Another Day | |||
| 17 | San Francisco | BlueVol03 | |||
| 18 | Pittsburgh | LV Steelers Fan | |||
| 19 | Atlanta | fiftycal2004 | |||
| 20 | Houston | Aerostar193 | |||
| 21 | Cincinnati | FineClub | |||
| 22 | New England | skywalker | |||
| 23 | Green Bay | bracketismyboy | |||
| 24 | Philadelphia | TehRhino | |||
| 25 | Baltimore | SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs | |||
| 26 | Arizona | NYKings | |||
| 27 | Dallas | jules62 | |||
| 28 | San Diego | chad72 | |||
| 29 | N.Y. Jets | diagenesis | |||
| 30 | Minnesota | DClark#44 | |||
| 31 | Indianapolis | mgrex03 | |||
| 32 | New Orleans | palco |
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Not trying to be a dick
but is there any way we can get the table to read correctly 1-32 instead of jumping around?
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Reload
Usually makes it work.
It was brought up in the previous post.
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by gizzardfanny on Mar 15, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Google Chrome
Sucks.
Just my humble opinion.
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It doesn't like HTML standards
I checked out the table this morning. It was picking a random row, putting it first, and putting line 1 in that random spot.
It makes no sense at all, and doesn’t do it in either IE or FF.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 15, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
How can they make a browser that doesn't
recognize standard HTML correctly?
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Ask Microsoft
They suck too.
They do it because they want people exclusive to their browser, so they make unique things in their browser that aren’t quite compliant, which makes it a royal pain for any web developer.
The only one that does it right is Firefox, so that’s the one I use.
Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.
I see.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.
Google Chrome is better than any other browser
My humble opinion.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Mar 15, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You stole my humble opinion!
You bastard!
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
-Mark Twain
I concur
Google Chrome FTW
Except w/these damn tables apparently. Oh well. I’m reppin’ Google ’til I die.
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"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.
Firefox is so much better.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.
Excellent pick.
While it would be enticing to grab Suh or McCoy, the fact that Stafford got so beat up last year shows they need an upgrade on the O-Line.
I’m sure they’d address the defense after the offense was set- right?
THIS ^
I really think Stafford has what it takes to succeed in this league IF he gets the time to make his reads and check down when necessary. He had ZERO time last year. This pick helps fix that.
Nicely done, CF.
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Wrong position, bad pick.
Backus is not the failure on the Lions’ OL, it’s the guards. Sure, he is not a franchise star LT, but he can manage.
They need Suh.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
not true
stafford was abused last year. They just added corey williams. Why keep adding to a position?
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by coltsfan723 on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was not abused behind Backus
Behind almost evry other OL player, yes.
Williams is no more future solution of anything than Backus is and they would another DT anyway.
Suh is better player than Okung making it a very easy choice.
Or are you saying that the 26 teams with a LT ranked below Backus need LT desperately? (OT rank here: Profootballfocus OT rank
I recommend listening to Lions fans who might just know their team needs a little better – the comments to this post: http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/1/26/1270961/detroit-lions-team-needs
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Mar 15, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez was sacked more than Stafford.
You think LT is the Jets’ biggest need?
Blaming Stafford’s sacks entirely on Backus is just as one-sided as saying the Colts don’t need OT because Manning wasn’t sacked much. Manning was also abused in his first season, that didn’t make Glenn useless (not saying Backus is the next Glenn).
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Mar 15, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
I like Corey Williams, but he’s not so good you pass on the best player in the draft who plays a position of need. The Lions defense wasn’t simply bad last year…It was one of the worst in the history of football. To allow (on average) over than 30 points per game and more than three more points than the second worst defense in the NFL in two consecutive seasons is a really impressive terrible achievement. Since 2002 no NFL team has allowed more than 30 points (on average) per game, and the difference — in points per game — between the two worst teams has never been greater than .8 points. Fewer turnovers and our off-season acquisitions should help a little, but probably only in the sense that our defense becomes bad as it relates to the rest of the league (as opposed to one of the all-time worst).
this is how I would have gone but I don't know what I'm talking about so............
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If you’re not going to get Suh or McCoy, then this is probably the right pick. That being said, having a dominating presence in the middle on D can influence quite a bit. I think if this is how things go, Detroit just made the Bucs a much better team.
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Suh and Bradford available at 3?
Interesting. I like this.
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i would seriously consider trading this pick
since suh is still there, i’d consider trading down and picking up another 2nd round pick….someone would be willing to swap first and throw in their second for a shot at suh
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Okung vs Suh
Is Okung as dominant at his position as Suh is at DT? I say no. Should take Suh and let Backus handle LT this year and focus on a new LT with their 1st round next year which should be high enough (4th-10th) to get a good/great LT.
I don't think the Lions' issue is on offense
The Lions played a lot of teams close, they just could not make the defensive stops. It was demoralizing for a team to watch any score of theirs being matched by an opponent. Yes, they did get lucky enough against the Browns but their issue was their D’s starters were outmatched. With Sammie Lee Hill and Corey Williams in the rotation, adding Suh to that rotation would take them from good to possibly very good or dominant and that would give their offense some room for error, IMO.
Once you have more options for Stafford to throw to, there will be more open options for him to get rid of the ball to without needing an elite LT. Besides, Suh’s DT moves are close to what NFL DTs have, he played like a man among boys in college. Should have gone with Suh.
Having said that...
…Okung did fill a need. One thing I did not give much thought to is that Okung would probably see more playing time on the OL as the OL is not a place of high rotation while the DL is, where Suh will definitely make a difference but be rotated in and out more. On that front, if Okung is as good as projected, yes, it will turn out to be a good pick and investment.
I'd still take Suh,
but this isn’t a horrible pick at all.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.
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