With the 5th Pick in the 2010 Stampede Blue Community Mock Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select...
by mgrex03 on Mar 16, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
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Eric Berry, S - Tennessee
Pick made by sanders_fan89:
The Chiefs need help in a lot of areas but one of the most glaring areas was Safety. The Chiefs had the 29th scoring defense in the NFL last year, and both of their safeties currently playing are not starter material in the NFL. Mike Brown has shown that he is too injury prone and John McGraw has struggled in coverage. In a division with Phillip Rivers and their high flying passing attack, they need to be able to stop San Diego from airing it out if they want any chance of winning the AFC West. Berry can step in as a rookie starter and make an instant impact. He has soft hands and great instincts. Also he has a nose for turning INTs into TDs. Berry plays a lot like Ravens S Ed Reed. Berry is a great prospect who still has a lot of potential.
The Chiefs could also go with LT, NT or LB here, but no player in any of those positions is worth the pick at number 5 with Berry still on the board. [GM] Scott Pioli has also shown a tendency to take defensive players in the first round of the draft. This is why the Chiefs select Eric Berry at number 5 overall.
If Berry is taken #5 by the Chiefs, it would be the first DB taken in the first round by the Chiefs since 1996, when they drafted Jerome Woods at #28. He will also be the highest Tennessee player drafted since Jamal Lewis was drafted #5 overall by the Ravens in 2000.
Berry's Scouting Report from Mocking the Draft
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| 1 | St. Louis | Jimmy Clausen | QB | Notre Dame | TouchdownColts |
| 2 | Detroit | Russell Okung | OT | Oklahoma St. | coltsfan723 |
| 3 | Tampa Bay | Ndamukong Suh | DT | Nebraska | TheAngelsColts |
| 4 | Washington | Sam Bradford | QB | Oklahoma | Colts Homer |
| 5 | Kansas City | Eric Berry | S | Tennessee | sanders_fan89 |
| 6 | Seattle | shake n bake | |||
| 7 | Cleveland | 2ndBlueGeneration | |||
| 8 | Oakland | LovinBlue | |||
| 9 | Buffalo | Cassieper | |||
| 10 | Jacksonville | peytonsthebest | |||
| 11 | Denver | JPBarnett | |||
| 12 | Miami | fpacheco | |||
| 13 | San Francisco | BlueVol03 | |||
| 14 | Seattle | shake n bake | |||
| 15 | N.Y. Giants | gizzardfanny | |||
| 16 | Tennessee | Addai Another Day | |||
| 17 | San Francisco | BlueVol03 | |||
| 18 | Pittsburgh | LV Steelers Fan | |||
| 19 | Atlanta | fiftycal2004 | |||
| 20 | Houston | Aerostar193 | |||
| 21 | Cincinnati | FineClub | |||
| 22 | New England | skywalker | |||
| 23 | Green Bay | bracketismyboy | |||
| 24 | Philadelphia | TehRhino | |||
| 25 | Baltimore | SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs | |||
| 26 | Arizona | NYKings | |||
| 27 | Dallas | jules62 | |||
| 28 | San Diego | chad72 | |||
| 29 | N.Y. Jets | diagenesis | |||
| 30 | Minnesota | DClark#44 | |||
| 31 | Indianapolis | mgrex03 | |||
| 32 | New Orleans | palco |
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I love Berry!
I wish there was a way we could get him. Picture this depth: Bethea, Bobzilla (hopefully for at least 8 games this year), Bullitt and Berry. The 4-Bs, it would be B-eautiful!!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
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Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
hahahah!
perfect!
Seeing this pic reminds me how talented Belushi and Radner were. “Hi! I’m Roseann Rosanna Anna Danna”
How can you not love a team that does this?
Jane, you ignorant slut!
/cough
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
There was so much talent on that cast, it's crazy
Each cast member brought so much to the whole. Radner was awesome, Belushi was pure genius (tortured, but genius), Dan Akroyd, Steve Martin, Bill Murrey… so much talent.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
It would.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.
I voted "more value was elsewhere"
but looking at the draft board, I want to renege upon that comment. I thought Okung was still available. Berry is the best available. I wouldn’t want to pick up Berry and would rather trade down, but with Okung gone, the other OTs are reaches (which is where I think the Chiefs need to improve).
This could also be a good trade down scenario
The Chiefs might value a good LT or Dez Bryant along with some extra picks over Berry, so they could possibly trade with a team who covets McCoy.
You read too much ESPN or watch too much NFL Network
If you think LT is a need or something Pioli will waste a #5 pick on.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
Pioli loves building in the trenches early and the Chiefs need help on the O-line and their only WR left right now is Bowe. It makes perfect sense and is a move Pioli would make.
Because we have a very good LT
And Pioli and Haley have been quoted many times that Albert is a key building block for this team. Plus the only place you would really move Albert is to LG where he played in college and after the Lilja signing the interior line just got awful busy in KC so I dont see that happening.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Pioli was even directly asked at the combine if LT was a major area of concern/need
And he plainly said that it wasnt an area of high need and that the oline did need some help but that LT wasnt a priority.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like both those picks alot if we can trade down a bit to do it and pick up an extra pick.
They both have concerns that I wouldnt blow a #5 on but I completely agree with you that they would be nice fits and fill great needs.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
If Bradford or Clausen fall to the Chiefs pick
I just think the Browns, Bills, and the Broncos will probably start scrambling to see if they can trade into it before the Seahawks take either of them. And one of the teams might offer the Chiefs a pretty good deal, where they could still get a great player in the lower teens.
I completely agree with all of that.
Might even see a trade partner for Berry from Miami and more likely San Francisco who seem to have a strong interest in a big playmaking safety and in the case of the 49ers they have an extra first round pick so not out of the question that they might be interested in Berry knowing they have another pick coming for another need.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to remember that Earl Thomas is still available around there too
So either of them might hesitate pull the trigger on that trade if they think Thomas can be close to as good as Berry. I could definitely see the 49ers trading down for a guy like Joe Haden though, and then picking up Thomas or Anthony Davis with their other pick.
Scratch that
Didn’t know they re-signed Chris Chambers recently. I still think the move makes sense though.
We also signed Urban... haha
maybe he will help us out..Im hoping Tate drops to us in the 2nd butI doubt it happens…
Im hoping the same.
We would have to move up to the end of the first round to get him I think. The last 8 teams in the 1st round dont concern me as none of them really “need” WR(except maybe jets?) but Stl and Det and Tampa could all use WR help with their second picks.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to look at the scenario closer and see who's picking.
In your scenario you still have McCoy, who some believe is the best player in this draft, still available and in KC you have a GM who believes teams are built from the lines out. I dont see how Pioli passes on that much value on the Dline. McCoy could potentially be a NT or give Pioli trade options for Dorsey who is playing out of position. Would make for the most expensive DLine in football but if that option is there I cant imagine Pioli passing it up.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
McCoy seems a lot like Dorsey to me.
born to be a 4-3 UT. A 295lb gap shooter doesn’t scream NT to me.
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by shake n bake on Mar 16, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He has the frame to carry more weight
And has alot more power then Dorsey. Dorsey doesnt have the frame or strenght to pull it off.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
berry
The Chiefs whiffed big time on drafting need over the best player last year. Pioli can’t and won’t make that mistake again. The have back to back first round picks on interior d lineman that are both borderline busts. While McCoy may be great, the bust factor is certainly higher than on Berry. The only reason berry doesn’t go higher is the whole safties aren’t worth that kind of money bs. If you knew who Reed, Polamanu or Sanders (minus the health issue) were going to turn into, would you draft them this high. Berry could be that kind of player and saftey is an impact postion in todays pass happy NFL.
by strandedincarolina on Mar 16, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
Takes 2-3 seasons at least to evaluate a defensive lineman
So to call Jackson or Dorsey busts or even borderline busts are this point is very premature. I think its a tossup if Berry and McCoy are both there at #5 and honestly Id take either but it wouldnt surprise me for a second if McCoy was the pick.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Mar 16, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I wouldnt agree that Dorsey and TJack are even close to busts
For one Glenn Dorsey has been transitioned from a 4-3 to a 3-4 the past couple seasons and TJack was a rookie… It takes time to learn the 3-4, let alone the position you play. Dorsey and Jack both are very good players with tons of potential, but they cant do it on there own and need a good NT in there to swallow up blockers. We get a decent push from the NT than there positions get easier, which makes everyone else look better as well.
Winning isnt a matter of life and death, its more important than that.
agreed... wait and see
what those two can do under Crennel – who has been around the 3-4 since 1983. They are a perfect fit for the Fairbanks-Bullough system he uses.
We certainly need a good, beefy NT to fit in there and complete the puzzle. I’m excited to see what happens with Dorsey and TJack over the next 2 seasons.
by Ochophosphate on Mar 16, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Chiefs fan here...
WTF would you guys know about drafting high, anyway? You have a good team! j/k
I would be fine with Berry, actually. Or, whoever. Hard to go wrong with the #5 pick…especially this year. At least…I hope so.
I would have to say, though…this is pretty much the only place where I’ve seen Clausen going #1. That would certainly change things up…for those of us picking up towards the top.
Not replying to you directly Scott B.
I love eric berry. He is a stud over the middle and will change our pass D for sure, so great pick. But, I if a dominant D-tackle is still available, then I believe the Chiefs will take that tackle. Like if Gerald McCoy is available. I’m not sure if his size is what we need at the nose, or if he can bulk up. His 6’4" height might say so. Otherwise dial Berry right in!
by chiefsandhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The Chiefs drafting a S good enough to play CB at #5 overall
Would be a great fail. I know he’s the sexiest looking guy on the board, but they can’t protect the passer or rush the passer; and this pick would help them in neither area. Everyone that wants to pile on about how elite safeties are rare, and about how Troy, Ed, and a healthy Bob are just so wonderful they are worth more than the cloth that clothed Jesus himself.
Please remember that these safeties play (or played) on teams with a good if not great front 7s. Oh and consider the best rookie safety drafted last year, was a CB taken in the second round.
The Steelers looked like they were lacking when Troy wasen't on the field
We had a shot at Polamalu back in ‘03, and traded that opportunity away for Pitt’s 1st (27th), 3rd, and 6th. We took LJ with 27th pick and Julian Battle with the 3rd. Other than the two 1700 yd seasons the trade down was an utter failure, because neither of the two remain on the team.
After a 10-36 record the past three years anyone who has playmaking ability is absolutely the best pick. There are no top rated pass rushers available at 5, and to take another LT would be more redundant than helpful. Albert will be our LT for the future. He will be entering his 3rd season with the Chiefs, and should mature into the position with more stability from Pioli & Haley.
Berry is the safer pick at 5. Our Safety play was completely and utterly horrendous. Berry would satisfy two areas of BPA and Need.
The only other player I would consider taking is Suh, but that would unfortunetly take Dorsey out of the long term plan.
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by aPacificChief on Mar 17, 2010 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the Chargers had a shot at Polamalu too so what
In fact they traded down and completely whiffed on him in think. And please dont tell me about how epic your Oline is, or about how there are no pass rushers worthy of the #5 selection. One of those statements might be true but not both.
And BPA isnt a need, its a theory on drafting; which the Chiefs like plenty of other teams ignore to a certain extent.
You need to do some research on what position value is, then come back here and make the arguement the Chiefs should take a safety at number 5 overall.
If your weren't so funny I would have taken your remarks as being offensive
dont tell me about how epic your Oline is, or about how there are no pass rushers worthy of the #5 selection. One of those statements might be true but not both.
Take the proper time to read and comprehend what I actually wrote. Because I never said that the Chiefs Line is made up of Pro-Bowlers. What I did say was why would you take another LT when the coach believes that Alberts can play the position?
Especially when you have other glaring positional needs on your roster. Safety is in desperate need of an upgrade, and Berry might be the Best Player Available who happens to play Safety.
AT #5 there are no dominant pass rushers available. I like Brandon Graham, but still don’t think that he’s worth a 5th overall pick.
And BPA isnt a need, its a theory on drafting; which the Chiefs like plenty of other teams ignore to a certain extent.
Again, I’ll take the time to properly clarify that Berry might be the BPA, and he would fill a position that we Chiefs desperately NEED upgrading.
You need to do some research on what position value is, then come back here and make the arguement the Chiefs should take a safety at number 5 overall.
HUH? What is a Charger fan doing on a Indianapolis thread arguing what Chief fans should consider taking with our 5th overall pick. Dude!
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by aPacificChief on Mar 17, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Chargers' fan.
’nuff said.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Mar 17, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey you guys interested in loaning Manning for one year to us?
We’ll pay his salary for you guys, like they do in European football.
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by aPacificChief on Mar 17, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Well let me think about that and get back to you....
in about 10 years. lol
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Mar 17, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
In 10 years? let me...think....DEAL!
In 10 years he’ll still be a better prospect than 2/3 of the other starters.
Case in point….see BRETT FAVRE..
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by aPacificChief on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
She only said get back to you.
The answer could still be no.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Butler is going to go to the sweet 16. Whatever happens after that is anyone's guess.
So you mean there's still a chance!
Even if its a million to one! :)
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by aPacificChief on Mar 21, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Chiefs took Berry over McCoy, your team would le another no name Rb, amass almost 300 yds.
I know a safety can help vs the run, but McCluster put up 200 plus vs the Vols and I think 3 or 4 td’s. Bad pick with McCoy on the board, and also the 2nd best LT of the draft.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
We don't need RB or LT though
our (Chiefs) biggest needs are NT, ILB and S bar none.
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I was saying you would let another no name RB, run for almost 300 yards again.
ILB, De, NT, and WR’s is what I see as Needs, but with you being more in tuned you may know more about it. If the Chiefs take Berry, they should be looking to deal him to move back. I think D williams (Tenn) and Earl tHOMAS, would be better than just Berry.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
I'll give you everything but DE
We have two top five picks as DE in Dorsey and Jackson. Everything else is dire. I’d also put Safety on that list. Given that we’ve been so bad, I think most Chiefs fans who favor Berry see it as a value pick. I wouldn’t bitch if we took Williams or Thomas. Like I said, we were just plain bad and the needs are massive.
BTW, that 300+ yard day put in by Cleveland of all teams was enough to make a grown man cry.
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Nice pick
Somebody’s been hangin’ out at arroheadpride.
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While most of us over at arrowheadpride would love this pick,
I dont think Pioli would make it with McCoy on the board. He values the lines so much more than anywhere else, and a potential all-star D tackle being on the board would sway his choice there. And with a draft so deep at safety, this pick could be made in the later rounds. I have to say, though, if we pass on Berry, I’m going to be pretty upset. I think EB’s going to be an absolute stud in the NFL
Your first mistake
is assuming that you can predict what pioli will do. ;)
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The man has tendencies
Just like any other GM. He is unpredictable… but not entirely so. I’d be less surprised with him making the McCoy pick over the Berry pick, but I’d be surprised by either one (who wants a 100 million dollar d-line, anyways?)
100 million dollar d line, or 100 mil in a defene that can't stop the run. At least with the D Line, you wouldn't let the Browns put up 300 yds rushing.
I think McClain goes to the Chiefs.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
McClain would be a good pick
although I’ve soured on him a bit now that it’s surfaced that he suffers from crohn’s disease. Like it or not, it’s gonna have a significant impact on his career. Sucks for the guy but… just sayin’
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Heh!
Who in God’s name knew he’d go for Tyson Jackson last year with the #3 overall pick? That was an insane reach like no other!
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It was TJ reach that made him so appealing
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by aPacificChief on Mar 17, 2010 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice pick Sanders_fan89....now lets go back into the Peyton Manning on a 1 year loan to the Chiefs plan.... :)
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