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NFL's Competition Committee divided over proposed overtime rule change

You all have heard of the proposed overtime rules, right? The push to change the current rule comes from a faction within the NFL that feels overtime games are won and lost on the coin flip. The team that wins the toss gets the ball, drives down the field, kicks a field goal, and wins 60% of the time. The Saints did this against the Vikings in the NFCCG.

Gee, after reading all the fallout after the NFCCG, I thought Brett Favre's evil interception ended the game. You mean there was overtime? The way some people's frothy, bile-filled madness seem to read, I thought the game just magically ended on Favre's INT, awarding the "W" to the Saints.

Anyway, forget for a moment that the Saints managed to march down the field on the Vikes due in part to some questionable calls by referees who seemed to just want to get the game over with, the fact of the matter is the Saints did convert several key first downs and they did kick the winning field goal. It's not like the game ended on the coin flip. They played some football in between the flip and Garrett Hartley's game-winning field goal. If the Vikings had deserved to win the game, they would have stopped the Saints. Defense is supposed to win games, right? The Vikings defense didn't.

However, some people on the NFL Competition Committee feel that overtime games should not be decided by only one "game-winning field" goal. The IBJ's Anthony Schoettle explains:

Members of the NFL’s competition committee, which includes Indianapolis Colts President Bill Polian, were discussing the rules which govern overtime.

According to sources familiar with discussions, there are two sharply divided sides and the debate at times yesterday was intense. One side wants overtime to remain in its current sudden death format, meaning the first team to score wins.

The other side wants a change, and here’s what was proposed yesterday in Indianapolis.

If the team that first gets the ball in overtime scores a touchdown, the game is over. However, if the team that first gets the ball, does not score or scores a field goal, the other team gets the ball.

NFL owners are especially concerned with a playoff game being determined by a coin flip, as some suggest was the case in this year’s NFC Championship between the New Orleans Saints and Minnesota Vikings.

Any new rule requires 24 of 32 owners to approve it after it has been recommended by the Competition Committee.

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I'd rather just keep it simpler and easier on the players

Each team gets at least one possession in overtime. Period.

If still tied after that, it’s sudden death.

by project geo on Mar 2, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait how is that easier?

In essence the winning team would still potentially have 2 possessions in OT and the losing 1, which makes for 3 total possessions and that could be the same scenario as a first to 6 situation. It’s no easier.

And simpler? I know they’re football players but everyone besides McNabb will understand the OT rules, don’t worry about that.

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by NYKings on Mar 2, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way,

that gives a huge advantage to the team that gets the ball 2nd.

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by Cassieper on Mar 2, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait......what?

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by Cassieper on Mar 2, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

I’m confused

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by NYKings on Mar 2, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

But my point is that people will

still argue that the game is decided over a coin toss. You can’t remove the advantage that 1 team will have going into overtime. It will only seem fair.

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by Cassieper on Mar 3, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

one part of me would like to see the game go into OT as if you’re just changing quarters (no coin toss), but then that may unfairly advantage the team that has the ball at the end of regulation

Maybe the ball goes to the team who is farthest from their opponents’ goal line?

or another suggestion I saw was that teams could “bid” on a starting position

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Mar 3, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with the first one

is that it completely eliminates any end-of-game strategy, as DZ has said.

I’m not a fan of the bidding thing either. First of all, it will completely confuse any casual fans. Also, the bidding thing has no roots in the way football is currently played.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In an exothermic reaction, heat is a product.

Thank you, Chem 116, for teaching me stuff I already learned in high school chemistry. I always enjoy having my time wasted.

by Cassieper on Mar 3, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't my favored way of changing overtime

but I do want it to be changed. Yes, you have to play defense and what not, but if your team’s strength is offense, it’s unfair when that one unit never gets to see the field. The entire team should have a chance to win or lose the game, not just one or two aspects of it. It also hurts defenses that are better in redzone as all you have to defend is about 50 yards of territory and kickers get way too much importance. I hate college over time because it over emphasizes redzone offense and defense, while NFL overtime has no redzone offense or defense.

This is almost like my preferred “first to six” overtime format, so I’ll take it. At least the redzone will come into play this way.

by diagenesis on Mar 2, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Are people opposed to an extra period, say 10 minutes?

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by NYKings on Mar 2, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Coaches and GM's are, from what I understand

Apparently they think it’s too much on the players. I say, we pay these guys a shit-ton of money, they can handle another 10 min and if they couldn’t, they shoulda wrapped it up in the first 60.

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by etid5353 on Mar 2, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Belichick proposed that idea a few years back

Though maybe he suggested a 7.5-minute overtime period, half of a regular NFL quarter.

I like it personally, but I think it’s too drastic a change in terms of the legacy of the NFL for the current decision-makers in charge.

But they have to tweak it, they have to give both teams at least one possession because the rules have been tweaked to favor offenses. You can’t have one without the other.

by project geo on Mar 2, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

They also changed the look of logos and the conference championship trophies

Found here.

Personally, I wish they would worry about making sure there still IS an NFL for 2011 first and foremost. And worry about saving the cap. Enjoy this next season guys, a year without football is on the horizon.

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by MrNFL on Mar 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

Er, forgot the link

<a href="http://www.faniq.com/news_redirect.php?item_id=1931300&topic_id=2007232&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.uniwatchblog.com%2F2010%2F03%2F02%2Fbut-i-absolutely-refuse-to-write-about-the-draft-caps%2F" target="new">Here

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by MrNFL on Mar 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

Trying again.

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by MrNFL on Mar 2, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Those new trophies look like pure shite.

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by NYKings on Mar 2, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it's only funny

because it’s true

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Mar 2, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by Cassieper on Mar 2, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I really have no opinion on this subject

Actually, I just remembered this.

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by LV Steelers Fan on Mar 2, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

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