Colts place first round tender on Antoine Bethea
by Brad Wells on Mar 3, 2010 4:28 PM EST
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PrintAntoine Bethea is a restricted free agent, but the dude isn't gong anywhere. Today, the Colts placed a first round tender on the fifth year free safety, meaning that any team that signs him to an offer sheet has to surrender a first round pick. The Colts have six days to match any offer a team gives Bethea.
Bethea was a sixth round draft pick in 2006, and is arguably one of the best safeties in the AFC. He may not get the publicity of a Troy Polamalu, but his impact on the field is just as great. Bethea has also been the most durable and consistent DB on the Colts. While players like Bob Sanders, Kelvin Hayden, and Marlin Jackson have missed significant time in recent years because of various injuries, Bethea continues to start game after game, producing Pro Bowl caliber numbers.
Since Bethea replaced Mike Doss as the starting safety in 2006, the Colts pass defense has been one of the best in all of football. In 2008, they set an NFL record for fewest touchdowns passes allowed.
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Nice
Now go out and get Gaither…
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
Gaither
He was tendered a first rounder as well.
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Yep
And I would give up a 1st, 3rd, and my first born for an All-Pro potential left tackle.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
But, but... isn't your husband a... Pats fan?
are you sure you want to risk it? It might be contagious!
Won’t someone think of the children!!??
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
I'll wear loose clothing during pregnancy
He won’t even know, LOL
How can you not love a team that does this?
wow... ok...
Sounds like you’ve got this thought out. ;)
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
I don't like Diem
I’m more than willing to give Gaither his number.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
On the Ravens site about giving a 1st for Gaither
is the deal off if we send a Mayflower truck to pick him up?
/I’m sorry that’s mean
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
LOL.
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I'm gonna say
that one wont fly over to well with them. They are so damn touchy about that subject
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
HAHA... good for them!
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
oh duh
Shake? You posted that?
heh.. i assumed it was posted by a Raven’s fan.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
yeah I did
and got a pissy reply from my good buddy Malor
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
it was funny, dude.
but yeah… some still carry a pretty big grudge.
My inlaws are from Maryland. They pretty much hate it that i’ve converted their precious daughter into a Colts fan.
yea, me!
heh
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
I see Raven is still a mental inferior
Over there.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
speaking of which
I was a bit alarmed by how open their fans were to giving up Gaither for a 1st, or even a 2nd or 3rd
How can you not love a team that does this?
They apparently are already set at tackles
without Gaither.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
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Oher is a stud LT
and Yanda is a capable RT
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Oher was destroyed on the left side this year
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
he was a rookie. The tools are there.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 4, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Nice
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
I think he deserved and should have got the highest tender.
Especially with his low salary the past 4 years and others being overpayed.
No a 1st was good
No one will bid on him with a 1st round tender.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
Or if they do,
we can match it or use their first rounder to get one of the OT’s.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
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I agree...
I would have liked to see a 1st and 3rd… better still a long term deal. While I don’t think anyone will sign him away for a 1st rounder, if I’m the Texans, Steelers or Giants I might stop and think about it for a little bit.
If the Giants want to do it
Go ahead. I doubt any of those 3 teams would give up their first round for Bethea even in this weak safety class.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
I actually think the Safety class is quite strong this year… though the strength comes outside of the first round. If any of those 3 came after him I would expect it to be the Texans since they have the lowest draft pick and have seen him play more often.
I don't like anyone
Outside of Berry, Thomas, Jones, and Rolle.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
I don't like Stuckey, Burnett, and Allen
But Asante and Jones are both good late 2nd, early 3rd guys. Church is another good late rounder.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
He should have gotten the highest tender
because we underpayed him the last few years? I don’t follow that logic. The Colts are tendering him to either the amount they think he’s worth or the lowest amount so that he will not sign anywhere.
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Nope
Sign them to the amount you can keep them for. ERFA will be signed to 375K no matter what. That’s how it should be.
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-Mitch Hedberg
That's how I view it.
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the league should build the salary structure in that way, sure
but you can’t ask a single team to do it under the current one.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Good move.
Now, go lock up Bullitt. As long as Sanders is on this team, we need 3 starting caliber safeties.
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by Addai Another Aday on Mar 3, 2010 4:42 PM EST reply actions
Even if Sanders wasn't with us,
we would need 3 safeties. Depth is good :-)
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we need 3 starting caliber safeties.
need 3 safeties.
It’s like where’s waldo, only easier.
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You missed the point of my comment.
I was saying that we would need 3 safeties whether Sanders is or isn’t on the team. The posts aren’t equal.
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exactly, the posts arent equal.
Other than the Colts, there is no team in the league with 3 starting caliber safeties. That was AAA’s post/point: If Bob Sanders is one of your starters, you need a starting level safety behind him.
If Sanders had Bethea’s durability and Sanders skill set, there is no way in hell the Colts keep Bethea, Sanders, and Bullitt, they would trade Bullitt for something they need (ie either a draft pick or an OL they can use) and have DEPTH.
Of course the Colts need 3 safeties (hell, here’s to betting they’ll have 5 on their roster, since thats what they had this year). There is a difference between depth and a need to have a starting caliber player on the bench because there is a high likelihood that the #1 on the depth chart will play around 4 total games.
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I love it
he’s probably not going anywhere, but if he is they’ll get a pick high enough to get a stud safety, maybe even Earl Thomas.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Or else
They grab Charles Brown with the pick and take Chad Jones with pick 31. Either way, we win.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
Or this
Now that would be awesome. I’m not sure if it would be enough though.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
That would be beyond awesome.
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Or better still...
Someone high enough for us to grab Bulaga with the first and then Chad Jones with the #31. That wouldn’t be too bad…
Oh yeah.
Forgot about Bulaga. I’d probably take him over Brown.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In an exothermic reaction, heat is a product.
Thank you, Chem 116, for teaching me stuff I already learned in high school chemistry. I always enjoy having my time wasted.
Except
Bulaga won’t fall past 13. I have him going #5.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
That early?
Dang. Well, I’ll still be happy with Brown.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In an exothermic reaction, heat is a product.
Thank you, Chem 116, for teaching me stuff I already learned in high school chemistry. I always enjoy having my time wasted.
OTs will go high in this draft
And the Chiefs are a perfect match for Bulaga.
"I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread."
-Mitch Hedberg
What is the timing around this now?
Two questions:
- When can other teams start making offers on RFAs who have been tendered?
- When is the last day to make offers to RFAs?
How can you not love a team that does this?
Teams can make offers
from March 5 to the end of the signing period (don’t have that date handy, but I think it’s in April).
March 5th. After then, anyone not tendered or signed to a long-term deal immediately becomes an UFA.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In an exothermic reaction, heat is a product.
Thank you, Chem 116, for teaching me stuff I already learned in high school chemistry. I always enjoy having my time wasted.
oops I meant my second question to be
When is the last day for other teams to make offers to tendered RFAs – you answered that in the first response.
Also, I understood (again from PFT) that an RFA who is not tendered or signed isn’t an UFA, but just an RFA with no tender/offer. Will be an important distinction for the Colts.
How can you not love a team that does this?
I really don't think that's correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restricted_Free_Agent
In addition to the following outcomes, if a player does not receive an offer sheet from his original team, he becomes an unrestricted free agent.
I’ve also heard the same thing in other places. That’s what you get from trusting PFT.
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Thank you, Chem 116, for teaching me stuff I already learned in high school chemistry. I always enjoy having my time wasted.
The signing period ends one of the final days before the draft
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
YAY!
Now Bullitt and re-sign Brackett by Friday night and I’ll be able to sleep at night.
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I'm not sure how one can say that Bethea's impact on the Colts is as great as Polamalu's on the Steelers
Had he not been injured, the Steelers would probably have gone 13-3 this season. Bethea has never been injured, so you can’t say with any certainty what kind of impact an injury to him would have. The Steelers had the #1 pass defense in 2008 with Troy, and the #16 pass defense in 2009 without him even though the supporting cast was nearly identical.
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It's hard to make the argument either way
The only time Bethea missed was the last 3 games of 2007 and if I recall right 1 or 2 of those games were throwaway games anyway. The one that would’ve mattered was against the Raiders and we won that without him. I think everyone knows what the Steelers become without Polamalu.
But, if it were up to me, I wouldn’t want to find out how the Colts D would look without #41
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