RFA-Only Draft
by shake n bake on Mar 7, 2010 1:33 PM EST
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Who wants to wait all the way until April to use those draft picks burning a hole in your pocket? Why not* snag some proven players right now and don't even worry about all those college kids? This is a RFA only Colts draft.
1st round LT Jared Gaither 6'9" 340lbs, Baltimore
A massive LT Gaither was a possible 1st round pick in the 2008 or 2009 draft, but after he was declared academically ineligible for the 2007 season he entered the supplemental draft where the Ravens spent a 5th round pick. He started two games his rookie year before taking over for Jonathan Ogden at LT. Gaither was great as a rookie, but his play slipped a bit last year as he struggled with a neck injury that cost him 5 games. Back healthy Gaither would be a massive upgrade to the Colts line.
Other notable 1st round tenders: Brandon Marshall, Elvis Dumerville (1st and 3rd), Owen Daniels (1st and 3rd), DeMeco Ryans (1st and 3rd), Ray Edwards, Jamal Brown (1st and 3rd), VIncent Jackson (1st and 3rd), Marcus McNeil (1st and 3rd), Bo Scaife,
2nd round RS/RB Leon Washington 5'8" 210lbs, NY Jets
While RB is a well stacked position on the Colts roster, the return game is terrible. Washington had 4 return TDs, 11 kickoff returns over 40 yards and 7 punt returns over 20 yards in his two full seasons as the Jets return man. At RB he's an explosive runner and His leg injury was gruesome, but he's ahead of schedule and expected to be ready to go before the season starts.
Other notable 2nd round tenders: Tony Scheffler, Anthony Fasano, Thomas Howard, Daniel Manning, Matt Roth, Jermon Bushrod, Pierre Thomas, Alex Barron,
3rd round LB Kirk Morrison 6'2" 240lbs Raiders
One of the tenders getting the most attention is Morrison's for being surprisingly low. Morrison has started the last 5 years at linebacker in Oakland, missing just a single game and totaling up nearly 500 tackles, 7 INTs and 6 FF.
Other Notable 3rd round tenders: Clint Ingram, Anthony Hargrove, Matt Spaeth
4th round G Rob Simms 6'3" 312lbs Seahawks
Simms started 3 games for Seattle his rookie seasons, all 16 games in 2007, entered 2008 as the starter but landed on IR with a torn pectoral after one game. Last year he started all 14 games he played in. Field Gulls is quite concerned with the low tender level for a player they believe is an above average starter.
5th round LB Omar Gaither 6'1" 235lbs Eagles
Gaither has started at middle and weakside for the Eagles. He's a very good cover guy, playing as a 3rd down LB when he wasn't in the starting lineup last year. Gaither would be a valuable spare part, strong enough to play the middle, with some pass rushing skills, but also a good cover guy.
7th round WR/RS/STer Ben Obamanu 6'0" 206lbs Seahawks
Slim pickings in the 7th round of the RFA draft, like the real one. Obamanu had 10 ST tackles last year and averaged 26.6 yards per kickoff return. A nice guy to have in the 5th WR spot, where he can contribute even if he never sees the field on offense.
No compensation S Oshiomogho Atogwe 5'11" 205lbs Rams
The Rams franchise player last year, they declined to pay him a raise from it to get draft pick compensation for him. Atogwe started 60 consecutive games before missing the last 4 games of last year with a shoulder injury. In his 4 years as a starter Atogwe picked off 18 passes, forced 14 fumbles, defensed 29 passes and totalled 264 tackles.
*Why not? Because this would be the most expensive draft class by an order of magnitude. RFAs mix the uncertainty of players changing schemes and supporting casts with the mega-contracts of free agency.
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J. Gaither - potentially being courted by some NFC teams?
How can you not love a team that does this?
Bleacher Report is garbage
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
-Mark Twain
to your point
here’s a post on Niners Nation challenging the veracity of the report
For some reason I thought the BR report was quoting a USA Today article, which is why I was less reluctant to post… but will pay closer attention next time.
How can you not love a team that does this?
DeMeco Ryans for the 30th pick?
I’d take it.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
you know if we could make him an OLB
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
and then I just noticed he's a 1st and 3rd
No thank you.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
there you go Cass
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
2 Gaithers?
Nice concept.
Would have liked a better 2nd rounder.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
"Stacked at RB"?
We have one legit starter, an unproven rookie who may turn out to be more injury prone than our third string ‘fullback’.
Stacked? Bring on Ben Tate in the 2nd! Please!
by smonroe on Mar 7, 2010 2:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Seriously
Why would you want another running back, especially one drafted 2 rounds too early?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
-Mark Twain
1 round early
For the reasons I stated. Joe is a warrior but can he go another year without an injury? Can DB go a month without an injury? Can Hart … Nevermind, you already know the answer to that one.
Seriously, do you really think we’re stacked at RB?
by smonroe on Mar 7, 2010 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No
But I think RB isn’t a need. You don’t even need good running backs to be a good team.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
-Mark Twain
Got a feeling you're gonna eat your words about Hart
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
2 first round running backs
and 2 pretty good ones behind them…Id say thats stacked. Lets find some blockers before we talk about trying to get another RB
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
Yes, our O-Line needs an upgrade...
But where a guy is drafted has no bearing on how good they are in the pros. Except for Joe, none of the other three have proven anything in the NFL. First they have to be able to stay on the field.
I’m not an Auburn fan but believe it or not he was the best back in the state. He’s the opposite of our usual RB bodies – big, strong, good speed, never injured. And the guy can catch. I know we won’t draft another RB this year, but trust me, this kid is going to be a stud.
Browns biggest issue
is his blitz pick up. Yes injuries were an issue, but all he was really there for (IMO) was to give Addai some breathers. We really only got a sample size of Brown. But what he did show us is he has the home run ability. Once he gets into the secondary he can take it to the bank. And he can catch. I think we will see a lot more of Brown this season. He has had time to learn the play book and he has gotten game experience. With an O line upgrade we could be a good running team. The RB’s we have are pretty good. But again, this is just my opinion.
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
Leon Washington?
Nice return right there. Possible boom at RB too. But D. Ryans that one is a chop licker right there, I don’t care who you are. Too expensive though, I guess.
yeah, 1st and 3rd tender
I’d rather get Gaither and Morrison than just DeMeco.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
so because of the top-8 rule,
the Colts can’t actually sign any of these guys unless someone signs one of their guys first, is that right?
No
But there has never been a player as good as Gaither who was tendered as low at a major position of need though.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
-Mark Twain
So, what are the odds
that n’Polian is even considering a move like this?
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
yeah, was afraid of that
i find it really hard to keep myself from playing all these high-risk, high-dollar scenarios in my head while knowing that Polian is neither high-risk nor high-dollar.
‘In Polian we trust’ seems to be a common phrase around here, and i guess he’s earned it… doesn’t make it any easier for us fans, though.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
We should consider using our 2nd rounder
on a RFA…consider how good we’ve been on the last 2 second rounds…
GO COLTS!
give Fili another year
look how highly the team thinks of Mookie and Muir with those tenders, and Foster was a former everydown DT for them. It’s not a crushing indictment that he didn’t break into a significant role in the lineup this year.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 7, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad there aren't really any good 2nd round RFA's out there...
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
a 1st round pick and a contract that he (and his agent Drew Rosenhouse) would agree to
and that the Ravens would decline to match (though the 1st round tender was basically rolling out the red carpet for a team to take him, so anything Gaither will sign is probably more than the Ravens will match).
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
There is a player named Obamanu?
Makes me wanna sing that annoying (but damn catchy) Muppets tune…
DooDooo Dadoodoo…Obamanu. DooDooo Ddoodoo
:)
@lefpsyd
n'Polian
love it. nice teej813
As long as we have Peyton (and no surprise gay onside kicks are made) we will always have a chance to win.
after some consideration
I think I’d rather tender Ingram over Morrison. I think Ingram is younger and has been pretty good for the Jags.
Also, it would be the next step towards getting an all Clint LB core.
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also
for those that say we need another TE, a Dallas Clark / Tony Scheffler combo would be unstoppable
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one more also
Since Jennings and Jackson are definitely gone and Fransisco looking gone, I think we should go with Blackmon or Gay in the 4th or 5th round.
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I really like Scheffler.
It sucks that Denver doesn’t utilize him as much as they could.
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