The "We're Not Getting Gaither" reality cold shower
I know you all very much wanting Bill Polian to sign Ravens left tackle and restricted free agent Jared Gaither to an offer sheet. If the Colts managed to do this (which would be way out of character for the Colts) and if Gaither agreed to the offer, the Colts would then have to fork over their #31 overall pick to the Ravens.
From a general perspective, it seems simple enough: A low-first round draft pick for a 6'9, 340 left tackle who is only 23-years-old and is entering his 4th season.
Of course, there is also the money aspect, paying Gaither a contract that would likely put him in the Top 10 left tackles category. But, as fans, we don't care about things like roster and signing bonuses because Jim Irsay already has a ton of money and in today's economy there is no sympathy for rich people. If Irsay isn't using the gobs of cash to improve the team, fan thought (right or wrong) is that he is hording it. Our sole focus is wanting to the see the team get better, no matter what. And since there is no salary cap in 2010, I get the sense that fans are less understanding of the Colts possibly being "on a budget."
Again, the Colts make a ton of cash and play in a stadium that residents of Indianapolis pay for. No one wants to hear about your "budget," Mr. Irsay.
In regards to Gaither, using tactics like adding "poison pills" into the offer sheet could block the Ravens from matching the offer. However, using such tactics is a big "no-no" in the close knit, buddy system that runs the NFL. The Vikings and Seahawks did that to each other over Steve Hutchinson a few years ago, and bad blood between them will linger for some time.
The reality with Gaither is that if the Colts give him a truly competitive offer, the Ravens will match it because the Ravens are not stupid. Gaither is a young left tackle. You don't let players like that walk away, and in an uncapped year Baltimore fans and media are much less understanding of their team NOT shelling out big money for important players.
Now, some of you might be saying, "But what about the draft pick compensation?"
What about it? The Ravens are not the Raiders. They know they are not going to find a replacement for Gaither at pick #31. They likely won't find a replacement at pick #25. The only way to sign Gaither to an offer sheet and make certain the Ravens do not match it is to put "poison pill" clauses in the offer sheet, and the Colts are not going to do that. Polian has too much respect for Ozzie Newsome and the Ravens to pull that kind of cheap, petty stunt.
So, I'm sorry. I know many of you want Gaither, but it isn't going to happen. The Colts will likely enter 2010 with the same left tackles they currently have unless a player like Bryan Bugala happens to magically fall into Polian's lap on draft day.
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well ive been put in my place about Gaither
but still holding out hope we can cut Addai for Sproles
The story of me
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ugh
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
I know, Spaz forgot his /sarcasm tag
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
I assume Polian respects Newsome enough to spell his name right
How can you not love a team that does this?
Because
God knows I don’t! ;)
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sorry - me being snarky
I’m sitting here taking notes in a meeting where people are fighting with each other instead of moving to agreement.
How can you not love a team that does this?
LOL
No, you were right. I type too fast and often misspell crap. The MSWord-to-SBNationBlog feature we have also annoys me.
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The reality
The Ravens have a bunch of young OLs. They even have another young player groomed to become their starting LT.
It is not totally out of the way to assume that they will not match a high enough contract.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
I think Gaither will go to another team
Just not the Colts.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Mar 8, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
The Ravens have two capable young tackles besides Gaither, Oher and Yanda.
that’s why they only put a 1st round tender on him, they want someone to give them a 1st for him.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
not that I think getting Gaither is likely
just that the Ravens matching an offer sheet to him isn’t a significant obstacle.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Oher
Oher is a Rt, right? I know nothing of Yanda.
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Oher played RT last year
he’s expected to eventually move to LT, shit the book/movie The Blindside is about him.
Yanda started at RT for the Ravens his rookie year, then shifted inside to RG.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
my only question about them letting go of Gaither
is Oher struggled mightily last year against the Steelers. Not sure its great football sense to get rid of your best player before the back up is ready.
Smart of them to get a first for him, though.
(By the way, am I the only one surprised by the price of the players being moved? a 3rd and 4th for Boldin? A 4th and 7th for Rhodes? Seems awfully low for probowlers)
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Boldin was entering a contract year, which pretty much 0 chance of an extention getting done
Rhodes was coming off a very down season.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
you unless you're the Lions
you don’t draft a RT in the top 25
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
*unless you're the LIons or the Panthers
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
im not questioning that Oher is the LT of the future
im just not sure if the future is now, so to speak.
I think the Jets talking hurt Rhodes value more than Rhodes play. I didnt think he was that bad. Ryan’s defense is too aggressive for the likes of Donald Strickland, makes the safeties look worse than they are (imo, but im not a coach or GM, im sure they know what they are doing)
The story of me
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He started 5 games at LT this year
He is clearly their future LT
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on Mar 8, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Gaithers motivation
From what I have read is the Ravens fans seem to think that his lack of motivation from college has continued over into his pro career. If this is true seems like the exact opposite of what Polian would look for or want. Just my two cents
by cwill111 on Mar 8, 2010 12:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If we truly wanted him...
Poison pill in the contract. Ravens wont be able to match that!
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I'm willing to start a "We Want Gaither" chant in rebellion to this!
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Hm
They might look at me funny at work… I’m in a cubicle farm over here
How can you not love a team that does this?
I'm sitting in a cubicle - don't make excuses lol
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WE WANT GAITHER!!!
Screw the Ravens
I want bad blood between them. God knows 9 straight wins has made some. They have their LT of the future. Let’s get ours. We aren’t getting one at the 31st pick, but that is what we need to win. Signing Gaither = A team ten times better than last year’s.
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CBA
One thing to consider is that Newsome and Irsay need eachother to combat Jones and Synder. They are the two leading proponents of revenue sharing and a new salary cap. Poisoning the contract could seriously hamper that.
Also, we’ve only really seen CJ at LT for one season. I thought he did a pretty darn good job.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Mar 8, 2010 6:07 PM EST reply actions
Can we stop with the myth that “the residents of Indianapolis pay for the stadium” please?
The tax increases that were created to fund the public portion were almost entirely on tourist and travel-related goods and services. The only thing the actual residents are paying is 1% on prepared foods. And some undisclosed portion of state lottery ticket proceeds.
Otherwise, as with just about any other piece of property, it’s financed, and there’s a big old mortgage on it.
Let’s not start with any implications that having a budget is a bad thing, especially right now, when there’s no guarantee that there’ll be a 2011 season. Irsay has broken the bank in the past and has the largest football staff in the league in one of the smallest markets. But budgets are wise for all businesses in all times. Especially right now.
Mock drafts are stupid and pointless.
by willyduer on Mar 8, 2010 6:28 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
so in that case
Y’all should thank me for visiting your lovely state twice last year, staying at the Sheraton, eating at St. Elmo’s and taking cabs from and to the airport! ;-)
How can you not love a team that does this?
You pay for all taxes
Increased taxation on tourism lowers tourist numbers and lowers tourist spending, leading to less employment, revenue and profits for local business, resulting in less being spent in the Indianapolis economy.
In this case, of course, the burden is shared with tourists, but thinking that government taking money out of the economy – even money from people not from the local area – doesn’t affect it is inaccurate.
by eltharion_doa on Mar 12, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking as a Ravens fan
The general mood of the fanbase regarding our tackles:
“OMG Oher! Blindside! Sandra Bullock! Great story!”
“Gaither? boo. no work ethic. who wants him.”
People are saying Oher is the equal or better of Jonathan Ogden. Gaither has gone from, “Promising young left tackle” to “lame duck seat filler,” except among some die-hard Terps fans.
I personally don’t think Oher is ready and that Gaither’s done really well. Supposed issues about his “work ethic” didn’t arise until Michael Oher got drafted and the Ravens offense played worse when Oher started on the left for injured Gaither and played better when Gaither returned (but it’s not Oher’s fault! the offense sucks! Flacco sucks!). Me, I just think fanboys are popping a stiffy over a movie star. I like Oher, but I don’t think he’s proven anything yet.
This is just how the fans think. No idea what the Ravens think, but just saying, the majority of Ravens fans probably won’t be upset.
and Yanda at RT?
I got the impression he was solid there as a rookie.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions

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