BBS' take on Colts selecting Jerry Hughes in the first round of the 2010 NFL Draft
I sat with Jason Brewer all throughout the draft, and on more than one occasion, I told him that if the Colts did not select an offensive lineman with the 31st pick, I was going to turn around and punch the person behind me. Didn't matter who it was. I was going to lose my mind and start making a fool of myself, in public, at the NFL Draft.
Then, I started seeing TCU's Jerry Hughes fall. And fall. And fall.
After Devin McCourty was plucked by the Patriots and Kyle Wilson was snatched up by the Jets, I felt pretty good the Colts would take Rodger Saffold or Charles Brown. Both are solid. Both are way better left tackles than Charlie Johnson or Tony Ugoh.
But, there was Hughes, just sitting there. The same Hughes that Football Outsiders ranked as the #1 pass rushing prospect using their SACKSeer system.
Jerry Hughes separates himself from the rest of the pack by virtue of his elite 4.15-second short shuttle run at the Combine. Not only is Hughes' short shuttle time the best amongst defensive linemen in 2010, but it is also better than any shuttle time run by any edge rusher at the Combine in 2009 or 2008.
At 6'1, 255 pounds, Hughes is built well as a defensive end in Indy's Tampa-2. Joe "shake n bake" Baker offered his take on Hughes:
Hughes is a small speedy pass rusher who can spell and backup Freeney and Mathis at the end spots. The Colts really suffered last year without a 3rd edge rushing option.
My personal take is the pick is outstanding. So, no punches flying or embarrassing tirades on the draft floor at Radio City. I'm actually quite ecstatic that Hughes lasted this long. As we all entered this draft, we said offensive line and pass rusher were BIG priorities. Some of you wanted Brandon Graham, and he would have been a great fit as well. However, Hughes offers the type of explosion from the DE position that the Colts absolutely must have to content. Their defense simply does not work when they cannot pressure the QB (see Super Bowl 44, the second half).
With Hughes, the fears we all have year in and out of the Colts losing Dwight Freeney or Robert Mathis have subsided somewhat. The TCU demon adds a third head to a monster of a pass rush. Smart pick by Mr. Polian.
Tomorrow, the Colts have added pressure to possibly make a move in the second round to get Charles Brown, Rodger Saffold, or Bruce Campbell. After those three, there is a drop-off at LT. But that is tomorrow. Tonight, we celebrate.
Welcome to the Indianapolis Colts, Jerry Hughes!
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Happy to be wrong
The more I read about Hughes and about his workouts for the Colts, the more I became convinced he was the guy. However, I thought the pick would be Saffold because I thought the Jets would take Hughes two slots above us. When Minnesota traded their pick, I knew we had him. I was more than happy to be wrong.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 22, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
same
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Apr 22, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This is awesome
And not just because it’s who I wanted. They had their pick of 3 good OTs and several good pass rushers, and he’s clearly the best on the board. Might not see too much out of him next year, but it’s great to not have the fear of losing an entire year if Freeney gets hurt.
A trade up for an OT like with Ugoh is a possibility, and I would not mind losing next year’s first for Brown one bit.
Mock drafts are stupid and pointless.
Brown not worth a first.
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Apr 22, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
meh
I have no idea. I just remember people hoping he fell to them at 31, figured maybe that meant he was one of the better ones.
Mock drafts are stupid and pointless.
most think he is
but like everyone, he has his detractors.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on Apr 22, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I think everyone's on him for being "too small"
Whereas it’s not his height or weight that matter to the Colts, it’s his jump off the snap and his ability to get to the QB. I think this is a case where the things he’s penalized for in other team philosophies is actually a benefit to Indy. That’s my take.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Not just small but lazy looks like a Ugoh repeat
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Apr 22, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops... I posted this on the wrong thread
I was intending to comment on Hughes, not Brown
. Then I looked at the parent comments. Ooops.
I’m tellin’ you, if Charles Brown ever had to rush a QB, the team he was on would be in deep trouble. :D
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
If he was worth a first, he would have been taken in the first and he wasn't
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Apr 22, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
right
because all the other teams are always right in those cases.
Seems Polian didn’t have either of them rated as that great though, based on his presser. A trade down was apparently preferable to either guy.
Mock drafts are stupid and pointless.
Kind of early to start judging.
Was Tom Brady worth a first? Brett Favre? Joe Montana? Frank Gore?
The list goes on and on and on.
Some teams need different pieces and Brown didn’t happen to be one of them but that doesn’t mean he’s not 1st round talent.
"In a game of poker, I can put the players' souls in my pocket." - I forgot who said this.
Polina said in his interview that he didn't have any other player other than Hughes
that was left as first round talent
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Apr 23, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He might not have but my point is
you don’t have to be drafted in the first round to have “first round talent.”
Look at the above list, all those players have first round talent, 3 of them are H of F’s but they were taken past the first round.
I’ll be happy if he gets an OT somewhere down the line in this draft because he obviously knows what he’s doing but just because he didn’t see Brown or Saffold as a 1st round talent doesn’t mean that they aren’t.
"In a game of poker, I can put the players' souls in my pocket." - I forgot who said this.
I love this pick and am so grateful we did not reach on Brown or Saffold
and we got a good player in return. :)
Back when I was picking beans in Guatemala, we used to make fresh coffee, right off the trees I mean. That was good. This is shit but, hey, I'm in a police station.
by TouchdownColts on Apr 22, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions
OT
I don’t think we trade up to get Saffold or Brown tomorrow, because then we essentially are using another first round pick, just next years. I think we sit pat in the second, take a CB, and then take a OT or an OG in the third
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 22, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions
What about somone like Jared Veldheer in the fourth or fifth to sit a year behind Johnson as a short term developmental guy. He has the size and athleticism to be a pretty good tackle.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
Veldheer could work. I also think Fox could be a pick, if he passes his physical
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 22, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd
no doubt. The O line needs addressed
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by coltsfan723 on Apr 23, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE it!
it was one of my 2 actual wish lists names and I screamed of joy when they picked him. I wanted graham or hughes on d and never thought hughes would be available. I know the pats wanted him bad!
what a grand night. the jags get an F and the colts get a GREAT PLAYER!!!!!
as for tebow! say goodnight mcdaniels. Id actually fire him before he blows the rest of the broncos picks
never seen such two idiot picks in the first round like the jags and broncos as this year
as for the colts….YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
My thoughts very similar
I thought we HAD to go OT. HAD to. That is until I saw guys like Charles Brown, Saffold, and Bruce Campbell continue to go undrafted. I also saw that for whatever reason, guys like Kyle Wilson and Jerry Hughes were also undrafted (two of the three I would have been extremely happy with along with Brandon Graham, had we gone non-OL). I then began to think that it would be extremely idiotic to pass up on either Hughes or Wilson. You can’t pass up players like this, esp. if OL will be available in the 2nd. Wilson went, and Hughes somehow fell to us, and I couldn’t be happier. GREAT pick by Polian. Huge addition at pass rusher, and will be a great fit. Huge steal for us.
I actually thought I’d be shocked and see Golden Tate be picked by us (my ND homerism would love it, my Colts homerism would have slapped palm to face). But NOPE, we hit a homerun pick. McShay actually just said he was a top 15 talent who will make our defense better right away. Called it an outstanding pick. Don’t care for the guy (or anyone who does jobs that I want), but I agree. This could be Polian’s best defensive pick in years (which is saying something).
And OH YEAH…..Charles Brown, Roger Saffold, Bruce Campbell…..All still available. Very likely one will end up a Colt. We could have taken one 1st round and sacrificed a great player like Hughes. That would have been desperate and stupid. Two words that are not in Polian’s dictionary. I expect yet another fantastic Colts draft by Polian. Bruce Campbell is my favorite of the three, and I think is very likely we get him, but I would love any of the three.
Also very amusing to see Pats pass on Kyle Wilson, who is far superior to McCourcy, to imagine all the groans in Denver, to see Oakland actually not waste a top 10 pick, and to see Jax completely waste one.
A+ Polian. Gonna be a great draft.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
Do you think one of those three will last all the way to our pick or will we need to trade 10+ picks or so?
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
I think ONE of them will likely be available
but if we do not want that particular one, we may have to trade up. I like Campbell a lot because for a guy his size, he is unrealistically athletic. Not often you see guys with that kind of size have that much more muscle than fat. But the other guys are very solid as well, obviously. Yet, after the failed Ugoh experiment, I find it hard to believe we will trade up for an o-linemen again, but you never know. Polian knows what he’s doing, so I’ll back it if he does or does not.
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No way horrible
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh heh.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: After waiting seemingly forever, it is finally draft week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and the schedule for next season is being released or something like that this week.
I'm soooo...
… umm… happy for you guys, that ummm… you got another Freeney-like pass rusher. woo-hoo. No, really, I’m thrilled. Thrilled.
Keep the faith!
yeah, I like the guy
I was just surprised at getting him in the first round. Truth is though, with the top two corners off the board, he wasn’t going to make it to number 44.
Keep the faith!
uggg
u have gotta b shitting me we have 2 go through another year with CJ and diem at tackles again? WTF!!!
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 22, 2010 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, no kidding. Some folks think we need to do it in the first round, or not at all.
Doesn’t work that way.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Usually the best talent is in the first round.
Colts pick up Brown or Saffold tomorrow this pick is ultra-golden. However, we end up with some unknown OT scrub we’ll be stuck with CJ and Ugoh again.
by ActionOxford on Apr 22, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How many unknown scrub prospects has Polian used to build elite teams?
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
Polian said his weakness was OL
You telling me all his picks for OL are great? Do you really think Ugoh should be the starting LT? Charlie Johnson? Polian was pissed at the OL at the end of this season and they were his guys. Now you’re saying we should trust Polians OL picks in the late rounds?
We need a LT. I can only assume Polian will pick one early, but this feeling that we’re fine without a good LT is stupid.
by ActionOxford on Apr 22, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Jake Scott? Steve McKinney? Ryan Lilja? Diem was a great tackle in his day, he’s just getting older. Polian and the Colts consistently hit on linemen taken in rounds 3 or later.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 22, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said all his picks were great. Also if you didn’t notice we made it to the SB with Johnson at LT. I’m not saying we coudn’t stand to upgrade but please don’t use a small sample size of poor picks to muddle a larger pool of good OL picks by Polian.
Jason Heyward wins at baseball.
Polian said his weakness was OL, not me.
If you’re fine with CJ at LT then good for you. Polian was extremely pissed at the OL at the end of last season. Apparently, he wasn’t happy with CJ. Considering our running game was terrible it’s either the line or the running backs.
by ActionOxford on Apr 23, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Not the first time the OL thrown under the bus...
Polian defended Manning’s comments about the OL after they were shredded by the Steelers in the 2005 playoffs. Yet, it was the same line that won the SB the very next year. I know Polian killed the line after the SB, but they gave up 0 sacks, few pressures in the SB and the Colts outrushed all three playoff opponents, each a Top 10 rushing team. Sure they can’t convert a 3rd and 1. I think they should just pass it more. Improve the passing D and get the offense the ball more often than 8 times a game!
by Utah Colt Fan on Apr 23, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Everbody points to our rushing successfully
during the playoffs. What I rarely see mentioned is that ALL of those teams (Ravens, Jets AND Saints) were playing the pass. We MUST get better running the ball and passing 50+ times a game isn’t going to work.
And I have this little feeling that Polian will do whatever he can to rectify it. I just hope it works.
But I will say having an injured Freeney lost us the Super Bowl. Period. Not the 3rd and 1. So I’m thrilled with this pick. Besides, a quality LT is not going to fall to 31 and Polian is not going to mortgage the future to move up that far.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Apr 23, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think early round
OL picks are a weakness, not later rounds. He probably doesn’t want to risk one in the first round unless it’s a bonafide stud.
Whoa, easy, step away from the panic button
There’s still 5 more rounds for Indy, 6 is Polian somehow makes a move that regains a 6th rounder. Plenty of time to find an upgrade for that position.
And no, nobody’s saying Ugoh or Johnson’s the permanent answer at LT. But remember, Indy made the Super Bowl in spite of that weakness. Better to make sure the player at the point Indy drafts is a proper one for that round than make a reach and end up hurting yourself.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
see also: The Jacksonville Jaguars
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, case in point
And occasionally, Oakland.
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don't get me wrong
I like Hughes but there r only 2 startable LTs left that’s it we have no shot at either I’m really worried about the o Line
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 22, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There are certainly some starting quality RTs out there
Kyle Calloway in the 3rd would be one for sure.
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by shake n bake on Apr 22, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but Charles and Roger were just sitting there waiting 4 us One of them would have been out stud LT for the next 15 years and now we have 2 worry about this 4 at least another year that’s all i’m saying
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 22, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
if not o line this is the guy I wanted so I’m not 2 upset I’m just not overly thrilled
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 22, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Good teams don't reach for one particular position when the best player at
another position is still magically available. Brown and Saffold will be waiting. Jerry Hughes would not have been. Great pick by Polian. You can’t afford to pass up talent like that at a position of need.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
I like this kid a lot
Underappreciated due to Bulaga’s higher profile, but still very solid. I believe that rounds 2-4, there is not gonna be a whole lot of separation as far as talent goes with the OL.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
I hope ur right
As long as Diem as not the RT then I guess we’ll b ok
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 23, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The OL is not as awful as you are making them out to be
Yes, there needs to be an upgrade, but you’re talking as if we are screwed unless we get Charles Brown or Saffold. Not at all the case. Calloway is solid, and don’t forget Adam Terry is no slouch. He is young (27 yrs old) and is a former second round pick. Here is a tidbit from his wikipedia page. “In the 2006 season he played in all 16 regular season games and was part of an offensive line that only allowed 17 sacks, a franchise record. Furthermore, that season the Ravens rushed for 1,637 yards and 11 touchdowns.” Charlie Johnson is capable of playing either guard position, and don’t forget as bad as Ugoh was last year, he was a very good rookie LT. We still need to draft someone and we will, but a second round OL is not going to be the difference b/w a crap line and an all pro line. Relax. We got a great player and steal in Hughes and will find a caliber linemen as well.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
Very well said....
And couldn’t agree with you more!
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Hate the pick...
…but that’s because I’m a Patriots fan. Look for Hughes to have a fantastic career.
Trade with the ravens?
I heard that Baltimore is willing 2 still trade their stud LT 4 a 2, now I realize since our 2 is so low that we would have 2 throw something else in but if we did that, then I would be exremely happy. Also we can’t get out of thes draft with out Javier Arenas
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 22, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions
If we get an OL next round
as well as Arenas the next, I may need a new pair of pants.
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ya def
that would b incredible
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 23, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
OL
Every needs to take a deep breath. Brown, Saffold, and Campbell may or may not be elite left tackles, that’s part of the debate. If they’re not, then we’ve entered into the second tier of tackles that lasts until the 4th round. There is still plenty of time to get more O-linement.
As far the second round, I’m expecting a cornerback.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 22, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
Polian said that the OL draft is not deep...
I don’t think Polian has given up on Ugoh or that pathetic 2nd rounder from 2 years ago (who sucks so bad I don’t waste my energy with his name). I am not convinced that OT is as high a priority to the Colts as everyone is saying. Manning had time to throw in the playoffs against three very tough passing defenses. The problem in the SB is that he only had 8 possesions and they gave one of those away at the end of the 1st half and Garcon dropped the another one.
by Utah Colt Fan on Apr 23, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
No
get ugoh and pollack out of here 2 busts they r god aweful
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 23, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember, Ugoh had a great rookie year and Polian looked like a genius for taking him. Rumors are Ugoh fell out of favors with Mudd, and it looks like he’ll get a second chance with Metzelaars. Don’t give up on him yet, he can still be made into a RT
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
It wasn't the passing game he was upset with.
We couldn’t run worth a damn!
by ActionOxford on Apr 23, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The Colts did run the ball with success
They outrushed the ’Aints. The Colts struggled converting a 3rd and short. But, Brees was the MVP for completing over 85% of his passes!!
by Utah Colt Fan on Apr 23, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
There was a pass rush
But what DE can reach a QB on a three step drop, especially, with huge OL in front of them?
by Utah Colt Fan on Apr 23, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree.
In the 2nd half there was no pass rush. Mathis was being double teamed and when Freeney was in (very little, I might add) he was playing on one leg. Our defense is not built to succeed without a pass rush. Brees may have been using 3 step drops, but he had a lifetime to through the ball.
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by peytonsthebest on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the pick but a little confused...
Big BYU fan and watched Hughes tear up our line every year. He is very fast and never stops. What I am confused by is that the Colts cut Curtis Johnson and Marcus Howard because they were too small and not good against the run. I thought Howard showed great potential rushing the passer. Then, we spend a 1st Round pick on the same type of player? Realistically, a healthy Freeney would not have made a difference in the SB. The Colts were winning in the 4th Q but the ’Aints switched to an underneath passing game and neutralized the Colts pass rush. CB is the biggest need but I know the top guys were gone.
Good point
I really liked Howard he didn’t get a fair shake
by Colts Live Free or Die! on Apr 23, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree to Disagree
A healthy Freeney would have made a HUGE difference.
by TouchdownMonkey on Apr 23, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Freeney's injury a non-factor
In the first half, when the Saints tried to drop back deep and complete the seam routes, Freeney got a sack and the Saints offense stalled. In the second half, the Saints killed the Colts with three step drops and underneath passes to their RBs.
by Utah Colt Fan on Apr 23, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I was at the game, and I have to say Freeney’s injury was HUGE. Brees had all day to throw and could just wait for the zone to break down
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Zone break down?
I watched the game and the zone did not break down as much as the Saints took advantage of the cushion we provided. The Saints have a huge OL and Brees took short drops. Look at the opposing QBs completion percentage against the Colts. It is rather high.
by Utah Colt Fan on Apr 23, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank. You.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Apr 23, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It became a big factor.
I got the impression that the ankle got worse as the game went on. Early on Freeney was close to his usual self and Brees didn’t have time to throw. But after a few drives the cameras showed him getting re-taped, and after that he became a non-factor.
by ex-Viking fan on Apr 23, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you serious???
Freeney’s injury left him basically unable to walk in the second half, and the Saints pass game opened up incredibly. His injury was a huge part in costing us the game.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
I'm hoping for
The Raiders wanting to trade down and get more picks so we give up our 2nd rounder, a fifth, and a seventh and can grab Charles Brown. Then get Amari Spievey in the 3rd. And Kyle Calloway in the 4th. And Garrett Lindholm and Brandon Banks in the 7th.
Welcome to the Colts, Jerry Hughes!
If Brown isn't worth a first
I doubt he’s worth 3 picks.
I personally am rooting for Myron Rolle.
Mock drafts are stupid and pointless.
True
I don’t really know what the value is. When we traded for Ugoh, it was a 4th rounder and a future first. Not sure if a 2nd and a 4th could get us the same deal.
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by Colts Homer on Apr 23, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope
I assume it’d have to be roughly the same trade as for Ugoh.
In Tony’s case, Howard and others loved him and had him as a first round talent. Apparently noone feels the same about Brown and Saffold.
Which means…. well, who the hell knows?
Maybe it’s Terry this year and the first rounder next year…
Mock drafts are stupid and pointless.
2nd, 5th, and 7th is WAYYYYYYY too much. Personally, I think Saffold and Brown (and especially Campbell) are in that second tier of tackles who last into the 4th. I’d rather see a corner in the 2nd and then an OT like Veldheer or Fox in the 3rd. Save the picks!
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
What makes Spievey better than Arenas
in a 3rd round pick? I’m super high I Javier so please give me a good answer :D
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Spievey is a better fit
Better tackler and more physical IMHO. He would be a great nickelback.
Welcome to the Colts, Jerry Hughes!
by Colts Homer on Apr 23, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Can he return?
Thats what I want from Arenas
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by coltsfan723 on Apr 23, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
look for Ray Fisher out of IU in the 7th or a UDFA for that role
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Nailed that one.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: After waiting seemingly forever, it is finally draft week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and the schedule for next season is being released or something like that this week.
he returned a few punts
only when it was back around the endzone though. Basically he was trusted not to muff the punt and to make the right call on catch vs let it go. He wasn’t expected to gain serious yardage or take any for TDs.
He was a great gunner on punts though.
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by shake n bake on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with ColtsHomer. Everyone is saying Arenas because of the return aspect, but we can get a returner in the 7th. I’d much rather see Spievey. He’s more polished
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Id rather see a
Kicker in the 7th round…but thats just me
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by coltsfan723 on Apr 23, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
GARRETT LINDHOLM!
Welcome to the Colts, Jerry Hughes!
by Colts Homer on Apr 23, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
We have more than one 7th round pick.
We can get both. What CH said about Spievey, Calloway, Banks, & Lindholm is great with Brown and Hughes added.
How likely? Idk, but it’s great.
"In a game of poker, I can put the players' souls in my pocket." - I forgot who said this.
In his press conference about Hughes, Polian said Hughes was the last of the first round grades the Cotls had. That tells me he didn’t think either Brown or Saffold were worth the first round pick. Extrapolating a bit, that tells me it is unlikely he’ll give up next year’s first rounder to move up in the second.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:37 AM EDT reply actions
Also although I like Hughes it makes you wonder cause I don't like the idea he was the last choice.
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember
their First Round draft board probably did not have 32 players on it. It may have been only 15-16 guys, which makes him a steal.
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Polian didn’t say he was the last choice, just the last left. Think about who some of the others probably were though. Pouncey? No way he fell. McCourty, probably on the board but after Hughes. Graham? He was a pipe dream from the beginning. I am thrilled with this pick. The pass rush is instantly upgraded and should easy the transition when Freeney and Mathis retire.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 23, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions
agree mostly but a little contradiction in your thought in the first part.
Polian didn’t say he was the last choice, just the last left.
Really lol. Friend he said he was the last on the list for the first round which means he was the last choice on the list for them in the 1st wise they were trading out. He said that.
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It still doesn't mean that
he was ranked the lowest on their list. Say there’s a list of the players they would like to draft in the first. Hughes might have been ranked 3rd, but those above him and below him were taken by other teams. So he’s the last one left on the list, but not necessarily their lowest choice.
True and must better explanation I think. (or maybe I am tired and stupid lol).
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Next years D
Bethea, Bobzilla, Bullitt, Hagler, Brackett, Freeney, Mathis, Session, Moala, Hughes Powers, Lacey….drooooools
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I just got done watching the highlights that
torontocoltsfan put in the Fanshots! Can’t wait for this guy to start playing! He looks like a clone of both DEs that we have already! Very excited!!
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You're still here!
haha!! I was going to put this in the other thread when we were talking about ugliest QB but I didn’t want to look for where that was…I think I have to change my pick and say that Kyle Orton is pretty ugly….
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It was just today beefcake...
Only 6-7 threads back…no big deal…haha!! That’s why I didn’t want to look for it.
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lol...
Alright well I’m gonna go to bed now so I’ll talk to you tomorrow!!! Hope you day goes alright with everything tomorrow. If you need to talk let me know.
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No problem!
Goodnight!
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what time does it start tomorrow?
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok no earlier I hope
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
am almost done listening to the press conference.
CH to you Polian was very insistent about the 3rd rusher and that we have found him now. I can see where he is coming from if he never saw Brock as a DE (pure DE) cause he really wasn’t. Seems to me maybe there was more to letting brock go than we thought.
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also he says
“The need line crossed the talent line by a hair”. To me he believes that DE was more of a need by a tiny bit over the O line. I think if the BA is a OT they will take him next round wise it will be another position.
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you...
if there is a OT in the next round I think Polian will take him…but we never know about Polian though…he is a man of mystery
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We do know he is thinking best player available though. And is not putting need first for most part.
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Too many scenarios
running through my mind for sleep….gah!
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same hit me up on aim we can talk about them and get them out
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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 23, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This is not a pick I'm goint to do cartwheels over
Even Polian said Hughes was the absolute last player they would have picked in the first round. I’ll hold my judgement until we see what he can do against NFL O-lines.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
see above
he said he was the last one with a 1st round grade left on their board. Hughes could have been rated anywhere in the first round column of their board.
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by shake n bake on Apr 23, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions

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