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Anthony Gonzalez and Bob Sanders might not be medically cleared for training camp

From Indy Star's Mike Chappell (who is a very nice guy, by the way):

Every indication is that Sanders and Gonzalez are on schedule with their rehabs. I'm not certain if each will be medically cleared for 100 percent participation in training camp, but I'm expected them to be ready for the start of the regular season.

Bob Sanders did not participate in training camp or pre-season last year, rehabbing from an injury separate from the one he is currently recovering from. Not having him fully participate in camp is not the end of the world, but it is disappointing.

If Chappell is correct in his assumption and Anthony Gonzalez is not fully cleared to practice at camp, he is indeed the fourth WR on the depth chart. Maybe it's not "official," but it is pretty logical to assume the coaches will not simply bench the very productive Pierre Garcon for a guy who is still recovering from a serious knee surgery. If Gonzo somehow gets healthy in camp and yanks Garcon's starting job away or puts Collie on the bench as the slot guy, that would be a major coup. Since that is unlikely to happen, Garcon is your starting WR for the Colts heading into the 2010 regular season.

I hope that makes things clear.

Gregg Rosenthal of PFT weighs in on Gonzo:

Gonzalez is more of a luxury at this point. He's likely fourth on the Colts wideout depth chart, creating a good problem of finding snaps for him along with Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie.

Based of past experiences with other players, I am certainly not optimistic we will see Gonzo or Bob in pre-season. How rusty they will be entering the regular season, if they even play in the regular season, remains to be seen. I'm intentionally being pessimistic on this so that I can be happily surprised when we (hopefully) see the Bob Sanders and Anthony Gonzalez we all hope for.

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‘Since that is unlikely to happen, Garcon is your starting WR for the Colts heading into the 2010 regular season.’

Seriously do you really have to state it as fact like that. I get the feeling your doing it just to wind people like me up. I think gonzo is better then garcon, you think garcon is better then gonzo. Neither of us know who is the starter, so neither of us should pretend our opinion is fact.

I can see the argument both ways for garcon vs gonzo, but I think you’d have to be insanely arrogant to claim you know which one is going to start.

Why couldn’t you of phrased it more like Gregg? Did said hes likely fourth, that’s fine, he doesn’t know but hes making an educated guess, he doesn’t claim he does know, so why do you? The only fact in this whole thing is that your an asshole

by ColtsUK on May 13, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't let it get you all bent out of shape...

(this comes from personal experience recently) – none of us denied that Gonzo would not start in the beginning of the season after coming off injury.

This is BBS’ way of beating a dead horse and getting hits.

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by peytonsthebest on May 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I dont understand

None of us denied gonzo would not start? You lost me in the triple negative.

It annoys me how he states it as a fact. If its your opinion that garcon will start fine we can even have a nice little debate about it. But for someone to say GARCON IS STARTING IS THAT CLEAR without any source on this other then their own opinion it really gets me annoyed.

by ColtsUK on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

None of us thought (think) Gonzo would start at the beginning of the season because he is coming off injury and hasn’t played a down for nearly a year.

I completely agree with you re: your second paragraph…

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by peytonsthebest on May 13, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcon will start

Unless Gonzo wins his spot back. Who’s to say Gonzo hasn’t lost a step with his injury? I’m pretty sure his timing with P Money is off. Garçon has very few things he needs to work on. And the biggest one is his catching. With that cleared up, I don’t see Gonzo taking his spot. Gonzo has a better chance at taking Collie’s spot then Garçon’s spot IMO.

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by coltsfan723 on May 13, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Collie is a better WR than Garcon, in my opinion. My crystal ball says that Collie will step up a lot this year, so long as there are enough footballs to go around. Gonzalez, pre-injury, had scary good timing with Manning. His timing will be off if he’s lost a step, otherwise I would imagine Manning is licking his chops in anticipation for his return, and not as a slight to Garcon in any way.

Manning throws to guys who catch, it’s his MO, and Gonzalez does that as well or better than anyone else (historically speaking). All conjecture, for sure, but I have confidence in Gonzalez and so long as his recovery is complete and does not re-occur, we’ll be in very good shape.

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by bamock on May 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Yet another biased blogger. Collie is not better than Garcon. There is a reason why he plays the slot. He doesn’t have the skill set to play outside. That’s why Collie played the slot and Garcon started. Collie’s success came against opponents 3rd CBs. Garcon’s came against STARTERS. Enough with this nonsense that Collie and Gonzo are better than Garcon please. You guys sound like a bunch of cheerleaders rooting for their favorite player.

by Daywalka on May 19, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then what do you sound like?

Personally, I think Collie is better at his own job than Garҫon at his. This does not detract from my opinion of Garҫon, who I think can excel in this league; I have as much faith in him as a person as I do an athlete. However, his low catch rate must be taken into account in a fair assessment of his skill.

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by linkish on May 21, 2010 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Listening

to you and looking back on things reported. You’re much more in the know the BBS

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by Gottaluvcolts on May 13, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only jerk is you coltsUK

Gonzo better than Garcon? Who made you the football czar of the Colts? What are you going by that tells you Gonzo is better than Garcon? GONZO ISN’T EVEN IN THE SAME CLASS AS GARCON. Garcon is bigger, faster, and more athletic. Gonzo can’t even get off the line against bump n run coverage from above average corners cause he doesn’t have the strength, size or speed. That’s why he played the slot in college. THAT IS WHERE HE BELONGS. He is not going to come in as the starter for
A- He’s still coming off of a major injury
B- The Colts have never started an offensive player coming off of a major injury immediately upon there return
C- GARCON HAS EARNED THE RIGHT TO START… PERIOD

You are obviously biased in this argument and thankfully the Colts are not going to make starting lineup changes REGARDLESS of how biased people like you are. Garcon will be the starter opening day. GET OVER IT. GET USED TO IT. BE DONE WITH IT. END OF ARGUMENT.

by Daywalka on May 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzo started most of 2007 on the outside

to say he can’t play outside of the slot is ridiculous. Especially to cite speed as the reason given that he ran a faster 40 than Garçon and comparing their seasons starting on the outside, Gonzo’s average catch was actually deeper than Garçon’s.

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by shake n bake on May 19, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's Jay Hesus?

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by linkish on May 13, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's the son of Mary and Joseph Hesus.

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by E.M.H. on May 13, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not according to his "other" dad.

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by linkish on May 13, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad news

Boy I hope you’re wrong and they get some playing time pre-season. I was hoping they’d actually be out of rehab and on the way to a healthy season. Keeping the the faith they’re recovery will take a fast turn for the good!!!!

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by Gottaluvcolts on May 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Injuries

Are a part of the game, Colts have proved they can play well without Sanders, if Sanders can’t stay healthy this season? I don’t know how Polian can justify keeping him. Bullit does a fine job, in my opinion.

by gteare28 on May 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

So lets Recap....

Last news on Gonzo or Sanders was 6 weeks ago when Caldwell said, "Gonzo may not be where he wants to be," meaning…..? Where does Gonzo want to be? 100% healthy and back in the number 2 slot? On the field working back into a competitive position? Simply being cleared, medically, to practice? At 80%? Excuse me for being blunt, but that is a wide range of "where he wants to be," to cover. As for whether he will be ready to start training camp soon, our source of information is….? The opinion of writers who have just as much information as the rest of us?

As for Sanders, He had surgery. This we knew. Whats the new information? Oh, what was that? He had surgery during this past season? Well, that is new groundbreaking information. I will be sure to file that right under my "Breaking Headlines," compartment of my brain.

Sorry for being sarcastic, but our only information in this whole thing is simply new people writing their opinions on information we already know, and have known for weeks. If Chappel has heard from "unnamed colts sources close to Gonzo/Sanders," then this would be news, but if it is simply speculation, I really don’t see why people continue to see the need to prognosticate while lacking any pertinent information that would make their evaluations any more valid than anyone else’s.

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by Jamkel on May 13, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Also, from the source thread....

Alot of us weren’t disagreeing Gonzo is probably 4th in the depth chart.

We were arguing that BBS’s arguments for it were completely convoluted, self-righteous, and hypocritical. Also they tended to be patently wrong. I know some people went after BBS for other reasons, but I for one always thought Gonzo would start training camp as the 4th in the depth chart, but I disagreed that he was A) Injury prone, B) a worse producer than Garcon, C) a receiver of lesser talent than Garcon, D) a draft bust, E) a slower developer than Garcon, and F) an unworthy number 2 receiver in the colts lineup. It was not the presumption that BBS had we disagreed with, it was his reasoning, as each successive reason became even more outlandish than the last. Based upon arguments he made after a while his original declaration of Gonzo as a draft bust and injury prone became almost a sane rational comment from him. We weren’t shooting him because he was the messenger, or because of the message he was carrying, we were shooting him because he was trying to light everything on fire while he danced around naked in the street. Eventually he just had to be tased.

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by Jamkel on May 13, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Actually

I personally feel people were shooting me because I was telling them something they didn’t like in a blunt way. Nothing i’ve said was incorrect, wrong, or not truthful. People sometimes don’t like hearing that their favorite player is injury prone, or that someone has leap-frogged them on the depth chart because of various reason (superior play, injuries, etc.).

What I base my opinion on is 1) what I read, 2) What people tell me, and 3) My own, personal logic process. Based on those three things, unless Pierre Garcon is injured in 2010, Anthony Gonzalez will not replace him as the starting WR. If Gonzo does, it would be a pretty big deal. Most people feel Garcon is better than Gonzo based in large part on how Garcon played in the playoffs.

Some people think that is too small a sampling, but the reality is no one gives a crap what you do in the regular season. It’s what you do in the playoffs that matters. And Pierre Garcon was magnificent in the 2009 playoffs.

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by Brad Wells on May 13, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude.
Some people think that is too small a sampling, but the reality is no one gives a crap what you do in the regular season. It’s what you do in the playoffs that matters.

Isn’t this part of what you’ve been arguing against for all these years?

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by linkish on May 13, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not necessarily

When it comes to a person’s overall legacy, I think overvaluing playoffs is a bit much. Example: Bradshaw and his 4 Super Bowls v. Marino.

But, there is absolutely no denying that a player who sucks in the regular season, but “turns it on” in the playoffs will always be valued over someone who was great in the regular season, but disappeared in the playoffs.

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by Brad Wells on May 13, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Deion Branch is better than Marvin Harrison?

Or is he better in the post-season only?

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by linkish on May 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

But Gonzo isn't injury prone by definition. He suffered a single freak injury and a single small injury

similar to what Garcon suffered this year. Garcon also wasn’t a statistically better receiver than Gonzo. Garcon also did not develop faster than Gonzo. Gonzo also does not qualify as a draft disappointment/bust. These are all reasons you had used to justify Gonzo being 4th in the depth chart. Each time you passed each of these off as irrefutable fact. Each time you rejected all empirical and logical evidence to the contrary and dismissed all contrary opinion as unworthy of consideration. The fact that Gonzo has only suffered 2 injuries in his career didn’t matter to you. The fact that Garcon did less in 2 years than Gonzo did didn’t matter to you. The fact Gonzo did more with less as a wide receiver and had THE BEST HANDS OF ALL NFL RECEIVERS didn’t matter to you.

I get you have a valid opinion that Garcon is a better receiver than Gonzo, but you didn’t phrase your posts in such a way that it reflected that it was your opinion. You wrote it as if it were biblical truth. I also understand you may have more contacts and inside info than just a random fan like myself, but that doesn’t matter in this debate because your inside information played no part in your reasoning. As readers, we are sorry we didn’t read your mind when your arbitrarily redefined “injury prone,” to fit Gonzo. As readers we are also sorry that we don’t share your fascination with single game performance as a show of success. As readers we are sorry we don’t share your affinity for raw production without regard to any determining factors.

If you simply want to continue with your same themes here, without engaging in hypocrisy then here are three indelible truths you must admit too or else you are admitting that your opinion is simply biased in your argument and do not hold the same standards in your evaluation of players.

A) Peyton Manning is a poor Quarterback because his performance in the postseason is lackluster at best.

B) Terrel Ownes is a better option at wideout than Garcon because Terrel Owens had more yards and more TDs than Garcon did last year.

C) Tom Brady is an injury prone player.

Unless you can admit to everyone that you agree with those two statements, then you must admit that your reasoning thus far for Garcon being a better receiver than Gonzo is simply preferential, biased, and hypocritical, and does not reflect any sort of unbiased analytical position, but simply is a demonstration of your man crush on Garcon.

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by Jamkel on May 13, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

2 statements?

I count 3.

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by Cassieper on May 13, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry went back and added the Tom Brady analogy..

But then forgot to correct all of the “2s”

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by Jamkel on May 13, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamkel

What is the literal definition of “injury prone?”

It means prone to injury. In the urban dictionary, an injury prone player is sometimes called a potato chip. In a nutshell, it means he gets hurt often and misses a lot of games.

In Gonzo’s case, he is not a player who was always healthy and then, BOOM!, had a freak injury ala Tom Brady. Gonzo got hurt in 2007, and missed several games with a hand injury he sustained against the Patriots. One of the games he missed was the now-infamous Chargers game, which Manning threw 6 INTs in because his receivers were named Morehead and Crap(phonso Thorpe). In 2008, he played the whole season (yay) but got hurt in the playoff game against the Chargers, which the Colts lost. In 2009, he hurt his knee in pre-season and then re-hurt it in the regular season opener. He was originally diagnosed as needing 2-6 weeks. He ended up getting IRed after having another surgery to repair the knee in October. Now, heading into OTAs and mini-camp, he is STILL not 100%.

Even Polian himself has referred to Gonzo as a slow healer. So, it’s not like this injury “bug” for Gonzo is a big surprise to the Colts.

So, again, three seasons in the NFL, and all three have had him miss significant time, with seasons one and three being the lowlights. A non-injury prone WR is someone like Reggie Wayne. The first two years of his career, Reggie missed several games with injuries. Then, for the next 8 years, Reggie started in every game he played. Another is Marvin Harrison. From 1999-2006 he missed only two starts.

THAT is a non-injury prone WR. They play in every game, no matter what. And that is what I expect from Gonzo if he wants to shake this label of being injury prone.

As I’ve said before, if Gonzo wants to shake the label, we need to see him go through an entire season without him misses any games or time because of an injury. We then need to see him sustain it for three-four consecutive years. Until he does that… injury prone.

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by Brad Wells on May 13, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

But my point BBS, is that you set alot of people off because you didn't define your usage.

Most people disagreed with you about Gonzo being injury prone simply because you focused on his freak injury as somehow indicative of his health. Gonzo misses what? maybe 1 game a year? Clark didn’t play a full season until this past year, and plenty of players have had a year with a single freak injury. You didn’t define “injury prone,” as being simply “he is likely to miss snaps at some point during the year with an injury.” Most people define injury prone as being very susceptible to repetitive injury and being “weak skinned,” meaning easily injured. Under normal circumstances the injuries Gonzo sustained in the first 2 years were commonplace for receivers, and his 09 injury was completely freak in nature and had nothing to do with his normal capacity to play.

The biggest point though was that you were being exceedingly premature in passing sentence on him after such a short span of time. In Wayne’s first 3 years were plagued with injury and if we followed your logic we would have sent Wayne to the back of the bench and never started him again. Yet now, after time and faith he has earned your praise and distinction as “non-injury prone.” The point is that a freak injury does not make one injury prone, and any short time span does not allow for any judgment to be made on the ability of a player to stay healthy.

Still, I am waiting for you to tell me how any of my three statements are wrong under the criteria you have been using for debate on this issue thus far.

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by Jamkel on May 13, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also injury prone...

1. Peyton Manning
2. Dwight Freeney
3. Gary Brackett
4. Reggie Wayne
5. all of the rest of the players in the NFL

Reaching?

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by AceOfSpades on May 14, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

No reaching there.

They are ALL injury prone. Makes me wonder, if one calls the guys above injury prone then what the heck are we going to say about Bobzilla? I mean, he makes “injury prone” look like a day at the park.

lol

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by peytonsthebest on May 14, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it's settled

Gonzo may not be 100% by training camp so he “will not replace [Garcon] as the starting WR.” No player could ever enter training camp at less than 100% and take a starting role from another player. Especially if “most people” (which I would dispute) subjectively think the healthy player is better. That logic is flawless.

The bottom line is that Garcon and Gonzo are different players. Garcon may be more of a big play threat, but Gonzo is more consistent. I guess it comes down to which you prefer. In the end, I think this entire debate will prove pointless because they are likely to receive the same amount of playing time and targets regardless of who is #2, #3, and #4 on the depth chart. The top four WR on the Colts’ roster have all proven they can produce at a high level.

by CDECK on May 13, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Most people feel Garcon is better than Gonzo based in large part on how Garcon played in the playoffs."

But has Garcon played better than Gonzo in the playoffs?

In 3 playoff games, Garcon has 21 receptions for 251 yards and 2 TD.

In 2 playoff games (really 1.5 because of an injury in the 2008 playoff game vs. the Chargers), Gonzo has 10 receptions for 176 yards and 1 TD.

Now, I’ll put those in rate stats for you so that people won’t have to do that pesky math.

Garcon: 11.95 Yards/Rec, 7.0 Rec/Game, 83.7 Yards/Game, 10.5 Rec/TD.
Gonzo: 17.60 Yards/Rec, 5.0 Rec/Game, 88.0 Yards/Game, 10 Rec/TD.

Now, what I take from those stats is that Gonzo had so much more YPR in the playoffs that even with 2 less R/G, Gonzo still averaged more yards/game than Garcon and a higher rate of TD’s.

I also realize that this is an absurdly small sample size (a grand total of 5 games), and I also don’t have any of the advanced stats available, but it appears that your claim of Garcon outperforming Gonzo in the playoffs is flat-out wrong.

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by Cassieper on May 13, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Temper the frustration...

Needless to say, Chap’s comment was hardly a “inside sources tell me this” comment. It reads a lot more like Chap’s personal opinion or perspective that it’s possible they won’t be ready to go.

This is not to say that I don’t see merit in the perspective, the Colts tend to treat injuries very cautiously and will allow Gonzo and Sanders all the time they need to fully and completely rehab and train to full strength before they rush them back into action.

I just don’t read too much into a relatively harmless and unsupported hunch, a relatively safe hunch at that. So in a lot of ways, I appreciate updates like these… but to me, it really doesn’t give us anything new.

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by bamock on May 13, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

abso... f***** lutely.....

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by Manning4ever on May 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's it,

I’m going to flag you!! lol

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by peytonsthebest on May 13, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

she might be crossing the line at CSC

but it’s ok here

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on May 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’m proud of you.

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by linkish on May 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

Take it for what it’s worth which is appearing to be very little now.

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by Gottaluvcolts on May 13, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its time for a hard look at the Colts training and medical staff

If Gonzo and Sanders aren’t ready for camp they’ll join the ever growing list of Colts players whose injuries seem to linger on for far longer than normal.

Gonzo was injured in game one, then kept on the active roster for most of the season. If the Colts medical staff thought he could come back last year, but were so far off on the timetable that he won’t even be ready for camp this year, then I think its fair to start wondering about the effectiveness of the medical and training staff.

Obviously every body and injury is somewhat unique but it certainly feels like the Colts aren’t responding (in either diagnosis or recovery time) as effectively as some other teams around the league. The Colts are a first class organization but this area seems to killing them. Getting (and keeping) our guys healthy would arguably be as valuable as any free agent signing they could possibly hope to make, improving the medical side should be among the teams top priorities.

by TheNoodleMan on May 13, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

couldn't agree more

well maybe I could, but it would be difficult

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on May 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can help; I have a crowbar.

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by linkish on May 14, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

here is my opinion...

I think our WR depth chart going into Houston will be 1-Wayne- leader of the WRs, heavily trusted by Manning, route running and hands are incredible. 2-Garcon-think this kid stepped up last year? Wait till you see the jump he makes this year. I have faith that his hands will be more consistent and he will run sharper routes. Who better than Peyton than to help him get to an elite level. 3-Gonzo-he should be able to battle back from injury but I don’t believe that he will be our Slot reciever. He will be a rotational wideout to take snaps from Garcon(kinda like a rotational DE for Freeney/Mathis). There will be different 4 wide and dare I say 5 wide packages that he will play a roll in. 4-Collie-our starting slot reciever although I have him listed as 4th simply because I am making this list based on wideout capability only. 5-(stab in the dark) Sam Giguere-some say the colts are high on his ability. I think hell prove to be a quality #5. Hey, at least it not Hank the angry drunken dwarf Baskett. Like Gonzo, I see Bob Sanders as a rotational player. Its quite clear that he should not be on the field every down as his risk for injury is high. He should be in as a box/blitzing safety on early downs and get just enough snaps to keep him sharp until the postseason but few enough snaps that his risk for injury will be drastically reduced. Then come postseason time, just like our SBXLI run, unleash the beast and let him take the game over. It seems to me that it would be the best way to get our moneys worth out of him. And please, if either of these guys have a chance at not playing for the first couple weeks of the regular season, they should be placed on the PuP list as these roster spots can be very valuable. That about covers my honest opinion.

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by metallicolts on May 13, 2010 9:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Even though the info MIGHT be outdated

1. Gonzo doesn’t have the trust of the coaching staff when it comes to his ability to get healthy at this point.
2. Worrying about whether Bob Sanders will be ready for training camp is like thinking about what you will do with jackpot lottery winnings…..wondering how you will spend and save the money without reminding yourself that actually winning the lottery is never going to happen.

“Bob stubbed his toe 3 weeks ago and his progress isn’t quite where we want it to be. We are shooting for the playoffs with Bob.”

I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by AceOfSpades on May 14, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

SANDERS & GONZO

THE REAL QUESTION IS WHO WILL GO DOWN THIS YEAR. NO ONE IN THE NFL CARES ABOUT LAST SEASON. WILL SANDERS START 8 OR 10 GAMES LETS HOPE. WILL GONZO START 9 OR 10 SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN REHAB FOR ALMOST8 MONTHS?? AND WHO WILL GO DOWN THIS YEAR? NO ONE KNOWS. ALL WE KNOW IS SOMEONE HAS TO STEP UP WHEN IT HAPPENS. IT WAS A LUCKY BREAK, AT THIS POINT, THAT GONZO WENT DOWN EARLY VS WELKER GOING DOWN JUST 4 MONTHS AGO. WELKER MAY NOT PLAY THIS YEAR . HOPEFULLY SANDERS AND GONZO ARE AT FULL STRENGTH WHEN IT COUNTS, NOV, DEC, JAN AND FEB FOOTBALL

by indy john on May 15, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

A very loud point, thank you.

Anonymity breeds inhumanity. In simpler terms, don't be a troll.

by linkish on May 15, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice!

Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.

by teej813 on May 15, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY ARE WE YELLING?

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.

by Cassieper on May 15, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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