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Ryan Diem seems to disagree with Bill Polian over how the Colts offensive line performed in Super Bowl 44

The day after Super Bowl 44, Bill Polian went on his radio show and said the following:

"Our offensive line, by our standards, did not have a good game," Polian said of Sunday’s performance. "They were outplayed by the Saints’ defensive line."

These were comments that the Colts offensive linemen seemingly did not appreciate, especially since the Colts offense did not surrender a sack in Super Bowl 44, and helped the running backs rushing for 99 yards on 19 carries, and a TD.

Not long after the dust settled, and Polian's comments were echoed on just about every TV show and website in creation, Colts center Jeff Saturday went on local Indianapolis channel WTHR and said Polian's opinion was, quite simply, not something he agreed with:

"I don't agree," Saturday said.  "I looked at the film, I've watched it and, yeah, obviously he has his right to his opinion and he's gonna say it.  I went back and looked at it, I looked at the numbers again.  We rushed the ball for well over five yards a carry.  We didn't give up any sacks.  Peyton got hit maybe a couple times."

In that same interview, Jeff went on to say he didn't like how Polian used the media to be critical of the o-line.

I don't ever like things being done in the press. I would have much rather [Polian] sat us [the offensive line] down if that were really the case or he really felt like that.

Well, recently, Ryan Diem made a comment about the offensive line's performance in Miami last February in an interview on the Colts.com show "The Heavyweights." While ansering a question about how Jim Caldwell was able to keep the o-line fresh all throughout last season (seemingly better than former-coach Tony Dungy did when he ran the show), Diem made a comment that seemed to echo Saturday's rebuff of Polian back in early March:

Regardless of the outcome of the Super Bowl, I thought the offensive line played well. I thought we were fresh. We weren't banged up to bad, and we were able to kind of manage throughout the year.

Though I doubt that this little disagreement between the players and the team president will translate into little more than off-season fodder for blogs like this one, it does warrant further close watching as mini-camp approaches. We now have two established, well-respected veterans saying, in public, that the president of the team is wrong and that the Colts o-line did indeed play well in Super Bowl 44.

Now, Diem obviously didn't go so far as to say Polian's comments were in the heat of the moment, as Jeff Saturday implied in his comments last March. Diem didn't even mention Polian. However, Diem and Saturday are friends, and have played together a long time on this o-line. So, for me, it is not surprising that they seemingly share the opinion that Polian's criticisms of the o-line were not grounded in fact.

Though, during this off-season, Bill Polian's actions (which always speak louder than his words) have suggested that his comments were not in the heat of the moment. He was not just mad, and vented his frustration at the offensive line.

He meant what he said if you follow what he's done since that game.

We've seen the Colts best guard, Ryan Lilja, cut for seemingly no reason whatsoever. Lilja and Diem are good friends, by the way. We've also seen the Colts bring in bigger, stronger interior linemen such as Andy Alleman and the recently drafted Jacques McClendon. And then, there is Adam Terry, who just so happens to play Diem's position of right tackle.

While I do not think Diem or Saturday are likely to lose their starting jobs, it will be interesting to see if their public comments contradicting Polian will affect anything. I doubt they will, but stay tuned.

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I wonder...

To understate it, this is a difficult situation. I wonder how much of this is Jeff and Ryan defending themselves, personally, but getting credit for defending the entire O-Line. They’re both savvy enough not to say, “he’s right, the O-Line as a group didn’t do well, but I did great!” as it would throw their squad under the bus. I suppose it’s a moot point, and we’ll see how they respond this season.

However, I think the players focus a bit much on how little Peyton was touched. Obviously, this is very important, and certainly the squad did great all year long. Even with Peyton’s quick release he would have been sacked more had the line not performed well.

But I think the stats back up my assertion that the Colts’ run game was miserable. Miserable. Absolutely miserable. I say that with confidence because the Colts appear in the last spot on this chart. Ok if you don’t like my BBS-like statement, then I’ll say that the run game was relatively miserable, as in relative to all 31 other teams.

And the reason the run game didn’t continue to be miserable in the SB was because the Saints’ strategy was to let the Colts run and vigorously defend the pass. The line simply can’t take the credit (or at least it can’t take all the credit) for the run performance in the SB.

But you’re right, Polian’s actions have definitely backed up his words, and I seem to recall him in some obscure interview scoffing at the reporter and referring to the entire year’s body of work, not just the SB. Does anyone else rememeber that? Or am I just making stuff up?

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by LovinBlue on May 22, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

They have every right to be defensive, and we should all be OK with it, but let’s be honest about it: they’re being defensive. By our (admittedly high) standards, they did NOT have the best game. I recall that Saturday wasn’t his usual self, to say nothing of the short yardage failures that were kind of a joint effort. And if I recall correctly, Polian wasn’t being inflammatory when he said that; it was more of the typical calm matter-of-fact demeanor he usually has on the radio show, wasn’t it?

Anyway, the run stats in that game are inflated because they faced 6 man fronts for most of those drives. The Saints took a tactic similar to Belichick’s SBXXV strategy of “let Thurman Thomas rush for 100 yards” – coincidentally another Polian-run team for a while there. They mixed and matched a lot more though, changing formation and eventually adding in some semi-effective blitzes. (I say semi-effective because don’t think that the blitz had as much to do with the pick as say, Reggie Wayne, but without it maybe Peyton sees Dallas for a 15 yard gain.)

Anyway, they weren’t terrible in the Super Bowl, but it wasn’t that great, and it wasn’t very good in many areas during the entire season. While Jeff and Lilja were the most reliable pieces, Lilja was pretty expensive relative to his value over a replacement, so they cut him. And now with a new coach who, despite the qualifications that got him the job, can’t be reasonably expected to work miracles with every undrafted undersized guard who comes along, it makes sense to get a bit bigger and stronger and see where it takes them.

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by willyduer on May 22, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Colts O Line

with Jeff saturday leading is a prideful bunch. I like their refusal to back down. I like the competetive attitude. Jeff Staurday had it out with Peyton in the press, in 2005 after losing to God damn Pittsburgh.

by naptown_ninja on May 22, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, we had some protection issues out there, you know...

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by LV Steelers Fan on May 22, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Understatement.

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by Cassieper on May 22, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember several plays where Steelers LBs were almost totally untiucjed

Especially on that one drive where the Colts turned it over on downs at their own 2 in the fourth quarter.

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by LV Steelers Fan on May 22, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Untiucjed?

Is something wrong with your keyboard?

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by Cassieper on May 22, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Home Row, dude... home row.

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by teej813 on May 22, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I think people forget

in their haste to mock Peyton is that he has a pretty big role in the protections. Saying “we had protection problems” is not the same as saying “the O Line failed me.” Some of it was on him, and he knows it. In that game, it was often assignments/mental stuff rather than just whiffed execution (which you can blame on individual performance). People were just too happy to jump on him and say he threw his guys under the bus. It wasn’t the most tactful thing, but he was blaming himself a bit there too.

Did you get into Cornell? Congrats.

A word of warning : They’re not going to let words like untlucjed through the freshman writing seminars. :)

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by willyduer on May 22, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

PFF charted the Super Bowl OL play as allowing 5 QB hits and 8 QB pressures

the average for the whole season was 2.4 and 8.8

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by shake n bake on May 22, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

and obviously, zero sacks as you said when the average was about .7 a game.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
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by shake n bake on May 22, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be proud

It’s great that Florio and his band of morons can get all their Colts-bashing material right here in one place.

by coltus on May 22, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

It's not hard to rush the ball

When the Saints played coverage the whole game.

by Drakul on May 22, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

O-Line changes....

While the comments of Polian after the SB say that the O-line needed major overhaul, what changes did we actually see? I feel like Polian’s comments were actually more of a smoke screen. I think he wanted to make people think we were going O-Line when really he felt that D-Line depth was the reason we lost. If we had someone other than Freeney and Mathis that could get to the passer the day would have turned out differently.

I do say look at actions….one change in the starting O-line after a performance “not up to our standards.” Polian is fine with the current O-line as shown by not drafting a LT in the draft and only bringing in second level lineman. Yes, they are bogger, but I think the draft shows that Polian is more worried about D than O-line in general.

by emiller17 on May 23, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure, but don't disagree vehemently with you

Polian is obviously a shrewd manager, and very well could have been throwing a smoke screen. But there have been changes in the O-Line mix (too early to tell what the final result will be). And there were rumors that the Colts tried to trade up to grab Bulaga (or Beluga, as one Packers fan calls him), but were unsuccessful. Still – he goes for value and chemistry, so he wouldn’t have just dumped the whole squad and gone for broke to find all new players.

I suppose we’ll really only know come September 12. God it can’t come soon enough!!!

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by LovinBlue on May 23, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they're bogger also.

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by linkish on May 24, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

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