Dan Dakich makes a fool out of himself interviewing Colts General Manager Chris Polian
For those that think I am confusing things, the General Manager of the Colts is indeed Chris Polian. He is pretty obviously related to the President of Indianapolis Colts. That guy's name is Bill Polian. Perhaps you've heard of him. Recently, Chris Polian was on 1070 The Fan's Dan Dakich Show, talking about the Colts draft, the rookie mini-camp, and the negative perception Chris' father, Bill, has with the media.
Before I post articles about the substance of that conversation, I'd like to take the time here to trash Dan Dakich a bit.
For the sake of politeness, I'll take a quick second to talk up Dakich's strengths prior to me trashing him for the media hack he presented himself as in his interview with Chris Polian. Dakich seems like a good guy. He's got a nice voice for radio. He's engaging. He's funny. Back when he coached basketball, he did a good job in an impossible situation at IU, taking over (on an interim basis) for the corrupt Kelvin Sampson after Sampson was fired.
That said, Dakich really needs to understand that he is in the media now, and the slurp job he did with Chris Polian yesterday is better suited for male porn than sports journalism.
One of Dan's early questions to Chris Polian was such a set-up, softball, bullsh*t-style question that it nearly induced vomiting.
Dakich: Does it amuse you when you see your father kind of portrayed as a guy that isn't media friendly? Because, I've been saying on this show that no one is more friendly to the media, comes on our show, comes on Eddie, does his own show; does that amuse you a little bit, the mis-perception of your father?
Chris: I don't don't know if it amuses me or, as you know, we're not terribly hung up on perception. I think you certainly worked in a program, and headed your own program, where you focus much more on what you feel is reality than perception.
Dakich: Well, I get a kick out of things. When I'm doing this job, I kind of study the media a little bit. And I'm sitting here thinking, Man, your dad is, like, the best guy ever! In terms of, "Hey Bill, can you come on?" "Sure." You know, it just strikes me as pretty funny
Just as you guys have seen me, in the past, rip people like Peter King and Mike Florio, I'm about ready to tear Dan Dakich a new one. It's slurp jobs like this that made me start blogging in the first place.
To start, there is no "mis-perception" that Bill Polian is not media friendly. The reality is the media, overall, thinks he's an assh*le, and that he's about as friendly to them as a chainsaw is to a redwood.
I've talked to dozens of people in established media, from SI to PFT to NBC to ESPN. Not one person, not one, has told me Bill Polian is friendly to media. Everyone lauds his ability to build great teams. Everyone talks about how great his is during the NFL Draft. However, every single one had some story about Bill being an ass to a reporter, a media rep, or a columnist for reasons that, quite simply, baffle the mind. The reason Bill Polian doesn't like many of these media people is because they have an annoying habit of doing their job. There job is not to do what Dakich did, which was suck up to the Polian family.
Their job is to ask tough questions.
Their job is to hold Bill accountable for his decisions.
Their job is to get information from Bill Polian and convey it to their readers in the most truthful, honest way possible.
It is not the job of media to, essentially, be an arm of the Colts PR department, and that is exactly how Dakich comes off here in this opening part of the interview. It most certainly is not a "mis-perception" that Bill Polian is unfriendly to the media.
It's pretty much the universal to everyone in the media: Bill Polian is an assh*le.
It's not like there are people out there writing hit pieces on the guy left and right. However, when you ask Bill Polian a question he doesn't like, or you write something he might disagree with, he has a tendency to act like an 8-year-old little boy who was just grounded.
Look no further back than his temper tantrum towards fans on his radio show after Week Sixteen, or his obnoxious, finger-pointing press conference after the Super Bowl. And these stories pale in comparison to some of the other things I've heard from people privately.
"Everyone's got at least one Bill Polian story," is something a well-established writer told me at the 2010 NFL Draft, and those stories are all of Bill Polian treating so-and-so in the media like sh*t. The universal narrative I got from numerous people is that the Colts, and Bill Polian, view the media as "the enemy." The running joke is that if the Colts could play football games without the press or fans in attendance, they'd be a-okay with that.
So, not offense Dan, but while you are sitting there "doing your job" and "thinking about the media," maybe you should actually go out and, you know TALK to people in he media, like I did. You'll figure out real quick that the media perception of Bill Polian is indeed the reality. Dan's attempt to attach his lips to Chris Polian's ass was embarrassing. Dan's job is to get information from Chris Polian, not placate him by sucking up to him and his father. It's also Chris Polian's job to answer Dan Dakich, regardless of what question is asked. The team has a responsibility to the media and to the fans.
All that said, I'll re-iterate what I have written, many, many, MANY times on this blog: Bill Polian is an amazing talent evaluator and football roster builder. He's a future Hall of Famer, no question about it.
But, "media friendly?" No, absolutely not. He is a complete jerk to the media, and it's a major reason why Bill has only worked for teams in small markets. Bill would not last two months working in New York, Philadelphia, or Boston. The media in those cities simply would not tolerate his bullying. You can bully around media people in small markets like Indy, Charlotte, and Buffalo. But in NYC or Boston, that type of attitude toward the press will get the entire city turned on you very, very quickly.
Again, as many of you know, for many years I have used this blog to defend Bill Polian from a lot of media criticism. However, since Week Sixteen, and since a few other things that have happened behind the scenes that I haven't shared because I'm not that much of a jerk, I can tell you that Bill Polian's reputation in the media is deserved and very much a product of his own doing.
Dan Dakich should know this, and likely does. However, because Dakich kind of comes off as a suck up and not as a real journalist, Bill Polian likes him and treats him "friendly." It's all just a pathetic spectacle of back-scratching, and it drives people like me crazy. To Chris Polian's credit, I've heard that he is not the same sort of assh*le to media that his father is. Hopefully, when he takes over this team, the great team building will continue while a better, more civil relationship with media and fans is established.
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And its because Bill is a HOF GM
that you shouldnt question his draft choices. Question his public speaking skills all you like (i still dont), but when it comes to evaluating talent, you dont second guess the best.
by metal_militia on May 5, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I stopped reading after the phrase "slurp job," BBS
Sorry – there’s really no need to use that term
How can you not love a team that does this?
On the plus side
he stayed away from “schmuck”, and censored his “sh*ts” and “assh*les”.
"If you define your personality as creative, it only means you understand what is perceived to be creative by the world at large, so you're really just following a rote creative template. That's the opposite of creativity. Everybody is wrong about everything, just about all the time.
But ANYWAY..."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on May 5, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Pot? Meet the kettle...
Seriously, you’re having a go at someone else for sucking up to the stars after you spent the superbowl week doing the exact same thing?
In terms of quick information this blog is great. In terms of comment, it has its moments. But in terms of hypocrisy and rose-tinted viewpoints, its abysmal.
by Passdinho on May 5, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Indiana
As a Bobby Knight bullying type, Polian is perfectly at home in Indiana.
ugh, speaking of slurp jobs...
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Bill and the media
For the most part everyone knows how he is, with that said, when it comes to the big market and the media they all have certain teams they embrace, to the extent that they need to get a room.
Long story short, the media gets what they deserve when it comes to the big man of the COLTS.
By the way, Polian would work in NYC
Parcells did. Parcells is the biggest jagoff to the media ever. If you win, that’s all it takes. Media friendly only matters when the product itself is less than.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
I don't know.
I would have paid to see the reaction from the fans and media in NY had Polian pulled the starters at 14-0 for one of the New York teams.
by Cole Farrington on May 5, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably similar. That was a boneheaded move in any scenario.
When he took them to the Super Bowl, NYC would forget about just like Indy pretty much did.
If anything Polian is perfect for New York. Mike D’Antoni is extremely media friendly, what has that gotten him. People still want him gone. Eric Mangini was horrible interviews, yet they still called him “Mangenius” that first year. Winning is still the most important thing, and Polian can do that, and if you are a jerk, at least you would be NYC’s jerk, like Parcells and Fassel were.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
I can't believe I just spent 5 minutes
reading a little over half of that. I used to enjoy your rants, but they are growing tiresome. I still fail to see an actual point in that post; a point that anyone really gives a crap about at least.
Good Lord, I can’t wait until the season starts.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 5, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 16 recs
rec'd
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on May 5, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
normally I just read and don't usually comment...
But I signed in just to rec this ^
by ColtsFanInTexas on May 6, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Stick around.
We don’t bite.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
but...
isn’t that the whole point of this being a blog, especially when YOU are the writer… YOU can write about ANYTHING you want? If you don’t like it, don’t read it, that’s your choice.
~SHaFF!~
I normally wouldn't reply.
However, I’d like to point out that the point of the comment section is to comment on the post. And please, take note that I didn’t read the entire thing.
And I agree, when ONE is the writer, ONE can write about whatever they choose. And I, as a member of this community, can comment on said choice of subject matter.
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by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I can understand that.
at least you didn’t tell him that he “can’t or shouldn’t” write about stuff.
~SHaFF!~
It's all good.
I believe in that First Amendment thingy, too. ;-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Just FYI
Bill Polian is not paid to be nice or friendly to the media. I would much rather him continue to do what he is paid for and let the media do what they want.
I actually kind of like the fact that he is a dick to the media...
Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis
by hoosier in sodak on May 5, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're treating Dakich unfairly
He and other AM sports talkshow hosts are NOT the hardline “journalists” and columnists you seem to be comparing them to. Especially not these local guys. Didn’t you ever listen to JMV? I mean, I loved that guy; he was the smartest afternoon talkshow host on ANY station. But he sounded like a little kid who was just thrilled to death every time some insignificant WNBA player agreed to be on his show. The national guys are usually no better. I mean, you’ll occasionally run into a Jim Rome who calls Jim Everett “Chris” to his face, and sometimes Colin Cowherd will argue with a guest (who’s usually just another journalist), but by and large, these hosts are in the business of KEEPING their jobs and not pissing off their guests.
Case in point. Last year you went on what was then the “Kravitz and Eddie” show and, along with Deshawn Zombie, were completely disrespected by both hosts. Then last week you went on “The Eddie White” show (sans Kravitz, thank God) and while you weren’t necessarily fallated, Eddie kept it clean and called Stampede Blue “one of his favorite sources for Colts news” or something like that. The difference? I think it’s a couple things:
1. Last time you and the rest of the bloggers kind of launched a retaliation effort against Kravitz, who slammed you guys in the column. I assume the radio station made an effort to “let” you on as guests because there was an unexpectedly overwhelming interest in the topic, stemming from the fact that MSM guys (like Kravitz) are typically clueless about new media and us fans are very intrigued by it. But you weren’t, to my knowledge, formally scheduled as a “guest,” at least not until the 11th hour. You were more of a glorified caller. I’m not hating. I thought you did a much better job than DZ (even though I expected the opposite to happen, no offense). But that’s what it sounded like; that they were kind of doing you guys a favor by listening to you defend yourself on a public forum. On the contrary, last week, you were clearly a scheduled guest.
2. Kravitz is gone. Eddie is a PR guy. While Kravitz has proven capable and willing to ask the hard questions, Eddie has spent his career making things look good. So while he may have had to hold his tongue because he still didn’t necessarily think you were legit, he knows how to treat his guests, and showed you the respect he would show any guest. It’s just part of the business.
Point is, don’t knock on Dakich. Like many of these talk radio guys, he’s not a journalist. He’s more of an entertainer who’s paid to put on a decent show, and in that respect, he’s doing his job just as well as the rest of them do. If you want to hear him slam someone, listen to the way he treats some of his idiot callers. If you want “hard questions” and “holding people accountable,” well, I guess you shouldn’t listen to sports talk radio.
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by LukeNukem on May 5, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Perfection.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 5, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Dakich
The only thing I dislike about Dakich is that he mispronounces names so often and often gets his facts jumbled until he figures it out towards the end of his show. I actually thought this story was going to be about him calling Chris Polian “Bill” repeatedly as he interviewed him.
On an unrelated note, if you ever need a site editor that will spell and grammar check your articles before you post them, I am your guy. I know it’s nitpicking, but if you are going to break balls about whether a radio guy does his job well enough, you should also be willing to examine your own product and clean up the spelling and word use errors that you have on almost every single article you post. If Dakich points to your article in his show, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he mentioned that in his response.
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This was a terrible post
First take the structure of your article.
Before I post articles about the substance of that conversation, I’d like to take the time here to trash Dan Dakich a bit.“Before I take two quotes and stir the kettle, I’m going to trash this person I’ve never met.
For the sake of politeness, I’ll take a quick second to talk up Dakich’s strengths prior to me trashing him for the media hack he presented himself as in his interview with Chris Polian.
Wait no I’m not, I’m going to compliment this person I’ve never met before I trash him.”
Now as for what Dakich said in the interview, it’s radio and it’s the offseason. You don’t start an interview with a sports executive by chewing them out, Dakich was being polite to his guest.
Third Bill Polian is perfect for “big market cities.” As others noted above his relationship with the media is similiar to Parcells who thrived in big markets.
Careful with the triple negatives
there is no “mis-perception” that Bill Polian is not media friendly.
Also what’s the point of the asterisk in “asshole.” When your prose is filled with punch lines like “slurp job” and “rip him a new one” you certainly don’t need to censor the “o” in asshole. It just looks ridiculous.
These posts are just made to provoke and I’m not a fan of them.
by torontocoltsfan on May 5, 2010 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
what?
i listen to Dan Dakitch alot on the radio and that is one thing I like about him is the fact that he can get Bill Polian and Chris Polian and all of those guys on there. He wouldnt be able to get them on his show if he annoyed them and put them on the spot. He does a great job of getting the information. Why would Dan be a jerk to anyone who is taking their time out of their busy day to talk to him….especially the COlts GM? I would much rather listen to Dan act like that and have great guests than to read another one of ur blogs about hating on someone for getting good interviews when it just looks like your jealous cause you cant get an interview with the polians
by supercolts on May 5, 2010 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dude..Please distinguish your username
Don’t get me wrong..I’m not a hater but I certainly don’t think it’s too much to ask for you to differentiate your screen name a little better from mine. Being that you just enrolled today on SB, and I’ve posted under this name for awhile, doing so will eliminate any unnecessary confusion. Anyway, welcome to the site and thanks for the vote of confidence on our team and my name lol.
actually they enrolled the day after you ;)
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Wow first time I have seen this happen lol. And he did sign up right after you so I guess you guys just had the same Idea for a name
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by TheAngelsColts on May 6, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
BBS, great post
I dont have a problem with BP and his treatment of the media, he flies by his own radar and doesn’t get pulled into the crisis du jour. BP has a well defined and proven plan, the “media” like to look from the outside and try to tell him how to do his job. I can see why BP would resent the media for this. BP does come across as an eliteist, east coast prick. I’ll take him everyday of the week.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
I really read the article
did BBS really say that? Polian would not get a job anywhere else? Cause if he did, im about to explode with laughter. Teams from all over will be lining up for his services, firing their own GM’s immediately
by metal_militia on May 5, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
mean to say, I really DIDNT read the article
by metal_militia on May 5, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
this I agree with though.
If you are winning, you can be in a big market city, at that point, they don’t care who you are.
~SHaFF!~
Is this blog going the way of talk radio
where the host feels compelled to make some outrageous statement to stir up his audience?
Where have you been?
That train left the station a long time ago.
by peytonsurdaddy on May 6, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
true, that.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
BBS, how can you hold others to a standard you can't live up to yourself?
This article is the worst form of irony, and easily the most pathetic. I love this site, because for the most part, I like your opinions. Even though I don’t always agree with them, they always come from a position of logical, thoughtful reasoning. But too often you fall into this need to bash people who think differently than you. Your Bad Journalism posts are in and of themselves bad journalism. You disagree with something somebody said and you construct evidence as to why you are holier than they. And why is that? Are you trying to make a name for yourself by tearing down those who have the jobs you so desperately desire? It’s sad, it’s frustrating to the readers of this site, it’s inappropriate, and it’s unprofessional to attempt to rile up a fan base against a harmless local public figure who has done absolutely nothing to deserve it. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked.
by ColtsEvangelist on May 5, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
They always come from a position of logical, thoughtful reasoning, huh?
You haven’t been reading his recent pieces on Polian’s draft history, have you?
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I give points for effort
though BBS thinks of himself as a “real journalist,” I don’t, so I grant him some latitude
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked.
by ColtsEvangelist on May 5, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever you say dude
BBS went crazy a while ago. My only explanation for it is that to combat the small contingent of people who cancelled his RSS feed and go to 18to88 or IFR exclusively, he churns out this stuff to generate interest. Gotta hand it to him, it’s working, but most of his stuff lately is blatant rhetorical tricks or sheer lunacy.
The true power of stampedeblue comes from the community (very, very strong, especially compared to the majority of other SB blogs) and the amount of content. It’s always been about quantity over here instead of quality, so I’m not too shocked. Just a little more and more pissed every time I read it.
But the point is, I’m still reading it, so he wins.
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Why do you think...
that any of us CARE if BP is media friendly? It’s pretty clear that a great majority of us care more that he continues to put a superior team out there every year.
This.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
although i do believe that BBS legitimately cares.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Every now and then BBS writes a horrible article
It usually involves bashing someone. This is one of them. GARBAGE.
This is the very definition of “bad journalism” as you so appropriately tagged it.
he's not a journalist, though. and it's his blog and he can do what he wants with it.
any more i just skim these things to see if there’s anything interesting. usually there isn’t.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dakich is still more successful than you BBS....
You sit here and blog angrily while he has his own show on an ESPN radio affiliate and could give two shits about what you think. I’m sure if they thought you had any talent, you’d be there.
by cjc on May 5, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow a very ignorant comment.
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by TheAngelsColts on May 6, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
no... just because it's not really needed lol...
once again, it’s HIS blog…. If you don’t like it, say that, don’t say he’s not talented, and if you do, say it in YOUR blog, like he did about his opinion on the Dan Dakich interview of Polian.
~SHaFF!~
Sorry...
but I’d never waste my time writing a blog. Get off of BBS’ dick.
by cjc on May 6, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Why should he get off his dick?
Is he taking your usual spot at the sperm-trough?
by peytonsurdaddy on May 6, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, I don't even know BBS...
Just stating the fact, it is HIS blog, so get over it I guess is what I’m saying.
~SHaFF!~
So how was the rest of the interview?
Just curious. Beyond, you know, being complimentary in the introduction, what was the content of the actual interview?
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
Polian is rude to the media...
because he’s smarter than they are. By a lot. And much like certain people here (gee, who could I mean?) he doesn’t suffer fools. These media people spend their lives picking at him and his decisions when they know nothing about what he actually does. They write about football for a living, but they don’t know a goddamn thing about football. He sits there and listens as morons pick away at his legendary QB using arguments like “Brady just knows how to win,” and as people squawk about how the Colts are soft, or that he changed the rules, or whatever inane uninformed bullshit happens to pop up that week. And when he has all the information to make a decision and they don’t, I imagine it gets tiresome. Maybe not at first, but after 40 years it surely does.
Sure, he’s also a fiery redhead with a bad temper. That doesn’t help things.
But part of the reason he stands out and evokes such passionate responses like this article is that Dakich is partially right: by some definitions, he IS media friendly, and therefore he’s in the spotlight much more often than most other GMs put together. I’d use a different term – he’s very ACCESSIBLE – but that’s clearly what Dakich meant. And maybe part of that is that he feels a need to argue his case and fake a me against the world mentality. Who knows. As long as he remains smarter than everyone else, I don’t mind that he often reminds people of that fact.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
by willyduer on May 6, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
he's smarter than they are
Is he? If he were to own up to his own screw ups then I might believe that. This team seems to have “high moral standards” except when it comes to the front office doing simple basic things like not lying, taking responsibility for their own actions, things like that.
In that regard I think BBS does an excellent job of thumping Polian when he deserves to be thumped. Yeah, fan relations matter. Sometimes we forget from whom the money comes to keep Polian, the players, and the entire Colts organization running. Sometimes I think the Colts front office forgets also.
It’s people like BBS who have taken it upon themselves to send them a reminder from time to time.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 6, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
yawn
What screw-ups are you talking about? The ones that the media tells you to blame him for?
The front office has no obligation to do any of that stuff publicly. Their only job is to put the best product on the field. Every year when they shape the roster and cut players that Polian drafted, even guys taken that year (as in 2009), they acknowledge their screw-ups.
I’m not saying fan relationships don’t matter. Polian isn’t infallible. But he’s definitely not the type to nod and smile when an uneducated media member says something stupid. Maybe people don’t like that trait, but it’s part of what makes him great overall.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
As you probably know...
It can be really hard to get A-list guests to grant you an interview. Most of the time their handlers go to great lengths, just to make sure that they only do interviews with soft questions. You then have to submit your questions in advance for the guest to look over or they won’t do the interview. If you screw them, you screw your name and your credibility. Making it even more difficult to get the guests that your listeners desire to hear from.
That being said, I agree on some level.
Half the interviews I hear on the radio and read in print ask the same questions as my 10 year old niece would ask if she were interviewing them. What’s it like to meet Peyton Manning? roughly translates to “What’s your favorite flavor of ice cream?” I mean seriously.
The colts in particular are the worse about regurgitating corporate crap no mater what you ask them anyway. How many times have we heard “I’m going to work hard and play good, and one day at a time… the past is prologue.” CRAP!
But that’s just the way it is. You’re not going to corner Pete Metzelaars and ask him, "Is Tony Ugoh a bust or what? Or get Larry Coyer and straight up ask him what’s up with Filli Moala? Can the dude play or what? And even if you did I’m sure you would get the same answers devoted colts fans hear every year. “we’ll throw them in the pot” or “he’s fine, Marvin doesn’t have a knee injury.. it’s a sprain….”
Funny thing is the guy who everyone hates was one of the very few people who didn’t kiss their guest’s ass. Our very own friend at the Indy Star, Bob Kravitz. Say what you want about Bob, he never had a problem telling it how he sees it.
Personally I like Dan’s show, but only from a basketball prospective. His Men’s NCAA coverage was second to none. For football on AM I listen to Eddie White. He can come off as kind of goofy but make no mistake the guy really knows the game.
Release the Kraken!
by Believe in Blue on May 6, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
For what it's worth...
The very fact that journalists generally feel/suggest that Bill Polian is unfriendly with the media and such gives him an opening to come at it from a different angle. Example: I had all but accepted the fact that EVERYONE in the media thinks that Bill Polian is rude or difficult to deal with from a media perspective. It was refreshing and even insightful, genuine or not, to have a member of the media suggesting a different perspective, feeling, or reality.
Now add to that angle, a fresh one, the fact that he’s a sports talk radio host who depends on getting guests on his show… like say Chris and Bill Polian… in order from his program to survive and berating him for so doing is kind of silly.
Of course, I still stand of the position that BBS has a right to say/write whatever he wants on his blog. So… I’ll share my opinion, as have others, and continue generating hits to his site and ultimately increasing the traffic to Stampedeblue. A win-win scenario for BBS :)
It’s funny how this media/blogging thing works chuckle
Oh man, you really took some hard shots at Peter King when you had an opportunity to do so. Such journalistic prowess. Look at the hard hitting beginning to the interview:
BBS: What I want to talk about, if you don’t mind, is you. I come from the blogosphere. I’ve taken shots at you. Many of colleagues have taken shots at you.
Peter King: Yep.
BBS: In the two days I’ve seen you work, you’re just a regular guy. You work with precision. I’m wanting to know what you think of how bloggers think of you? Does it bother you? Does it baffle you? What?
[so you want to ask him about people calling him an idiot, but you feel the need to compliment him for being a regular guy?]
But THEN we get to the real juicy questions, the hard hitting stuff. I know that if I had an opportunity (probably my only opportunity) to interview P king this is what I would ask.
“BBS: How long have you covered the NFL?
PK: Since 1984. So, it’d be my 25, 26th year, I guess.
BBS: That’s a long time."
[you know the kind of question that you can google in 30 seconds: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=peter+king+biography]
Grow up BBS. You aren’t a real journalist. You are an avid and knowledgable colts fan with a pulpit. A pulpit that you use successfully to attract a wide array of colts fans; you’ve helped create an awesome community here, why do you want to be something more?
Being a journalist doesn’t make you better than what you are now and you shouldn’t waste time judging them.
by sandsnake on May 6, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
In Defense of BBS (not that he really needs it from me anyway)
First off, it is his blog right now. He’s the head writer/editor/boss. If he wants to write an article slamming Dan Dakich, fine, it is his prerogative. Also, don’t call him out for being a “bad journalist” or that this is “bad journalism”. He’s not a journalist. He’s a blogger. They are different. Not as different as what Bob Kravitz believes, but they are different.
Finally, it is extremely hard to do his job in the offseason. The Colts, for reasons that admittedly help the product on the field, are one of the least active offseason teams in the NFL, and rarely have any real offseason movement or controversy. Honestly, the Colts themselves are boring in the offseason. So, it is very hard for BBS to actually write stuff all the time about legitimate Colts news. I mean, how many times can he write “Yeah, Jerry Hughes is great”? Therefore, he has to stretch for things. Of course, I don’t agree with his views, on this and especially not on Gonzo (although I see totally where he is coming from). So, he writes something a bit controversial, or at the very least polarizing, and allows the blog to play to its strength.
The strength of StampedeBlue is not the writing (although we have great writing here all around), or the news or anything like that. It is the community. Seriously, I don’t think any football blog on sbnation has the type of commentariat that stampede blue does. Sure, ones like the Raiders, Giants, Ravens all have active comment boards, but stampede blue puts up six open threads for each game (I may be estimating there). That is where the enjoyment comes, particularly in the offseason, when, for the Colts, there is little actual enjoyment. So, the easiest way for Stampede Blue to be everything you want it to be is for BBS to write something polarizing, and get a good solid debate on it, and in that regard BBS is as good as anyone out there.
Again, I don’t agree with BBS’ perspective a lot of times, especially recently with the Gonzo vs Garcon stuff, but I totally agree with why it is helpful for the blog as a whole. If I were running stampede blue, I would do the same. I mean, I could pour my heart and soul into researching every single column, like DZ does at 18to88, and feel proud that I’ve done great work, but I will not get the multiple hundred comments that stampedeblue gets. That’s what is important here, to write something that will get the board active, and give stampedeblue the type of atmosphere it really is, a place for fans to emulate just shooting the sh*t at a bar, talking Colts football.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
I agree that the only reason to check this blog is because of the community and occasional good article. People like yourself, shake n bake, bmock, among others. tend to say interesting and substantive things. But, you can only really make good comments based on good material. Accordingly, I don’t think that the community has an opportunity to grow when it is fed utter garbage like the gonzo stuff and this article. What is there to talk about re: the gonzo article? BBS is wrong, that’s just the truth. All he is doing is spreading misinformation that will pop back up in the regular season comment threads. Sure, the “community” steps into correct him, but that isn’t particularly useful or substantive discussion.
I think that there is enough stuff TO talk about in the offseason that isn’t unnecessarily polarizing garbage. I’m sure I could think of a better list if I weren’t ignoring my finals right now, but for starters, we could:
1) discuss possible offensive packages that could utilize all of our offensive threats. I’m really curious how dallas clarks numbers will be affected by having so many excellent wrs.
2) discuss how our upcoming opponents may or may not have improved their teams via the draft and free agency
3) discuss which teams we think we will beat next year or lose to
4) engage in rampant speculation about whether further playbook changes ar ecoming
5) predict depth charts before camp, during camp, after camp
6) hell, it would be more useful to freaking talk about fantasy football w/colts players or in general then about some journalist asking some questions too nicely.
That’s why I get pissed off about this.
There is stuff to talk about
but its hard to write about this all the time. BBS hasn’t done a “bad journalism” thing in a while.
I mean, if this was a Jets blog, offseason stories would be damn easy. I’m not sure I could even be capable of running a Colts blog in the offseason without getting really repetitive.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
I agree
I said it something similar earlier in this post.
Thing is, SB is like a really fun bar where everybody’s a little too wasted, and 18to88 is like some snobby craft beer tasting room where nobody’s drunk, but there’s fewer people in there so it’s quieter and the conversations are better.
At the StampedeBlue bar, there are a couple guys in the corner who always have the best points, but don’t really fight with anyone…they maybe just sit there and roll their eyes when they hear some stupid shit (Shake and mgrex come to mind…). Then you’ve got the regulars who are varying degrees of smart/drunk. Then there’s this one tool who’s been coming so long, he pretty much owns the place. He’s like THE original customer, and he starts all the drunken conversations.
But lately the regulars have started getting a little less drunk, and seem to have their wits about them a little more . But that drunk tool is still there, yelling and screaming, causing arguments. No new people come into the bar because they see this raving, crazy drunk guy saying inane shit. Regulars who don’t normally speak up start telling his crazy ass to calm down before they quit coming, and before he knows it, he’ll have no one to argue at.
Is that situation good for the bar? It’s like the result of BBS’s crazy has been to generate a little mini-movement of smart people leaving the site all together. As much as we like the community (and I absolutely do) we need smart, logical people to contribute well thought-out points to the arguments. But if he keeps up this bullshit they’re all going to leave (some already have).
"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"
Come visit The Fantasy Ninjas. We'd love to hear from you.
by LukeNukem on May 6, 2010 6:30 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
rec rec rec
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
18to88 has a house drunk
and his name is JC. The analogy is pretty apt though because just the other day I was thinking how interesting it was that JC’s foaming at the mouth actually adds to 18to88 yet BBS’ detracts from stampedeblue.
I assume you are right that it is about where they are on the “drunken” scale.
I really don't think JC adds that much to 18to88
Personal opinion, but i don’t think his valid points are worth his inane Colts-hating.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
he unifies the Colts fans, I guess.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
point.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Are you saying the women are sobering up?
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
I'm not sobering up.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
by gizzardfanny on May 6, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Ditto.
What would the fun be in that?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
what is the difference between BBS and a journalist?
The only difference i can see is that BBS gets a pass when it comes to professionalism, ethics, and standards. That and he never has to make a retraction for saying something that is later proven to be 100% made up.
BBS is a paid writer for a advertisement based media company that is syndicated nationally (perhaps internationally is more accurate).
Worse than that, it seems to me that BBS wants to have it both ways. He wants to be treated professionally by other members of the media (see the Kravitz threads), he wants to be given media credentials (see is continued ranting about the Colts press policy), and he is even had access like a traditional journalist. Yet when it comes to things like journalistic standards he doesn’t feel the need to follow them and hides behind the blogger label.
I think what has become apparent over the last few months (and the last few weeks especially) is that the difference between BBS and a journalist is that the writing is a secondary concern for BBS. It is a by product of his real product which is building a community. He has used this controversial style of writing to get the threads active (and it’s worked well). The problem is it is starting to back fire on him. People are getting tired of it. If he doesn’t get a new act soon the community is going to fall apart.
Funny enough, my favorite BBS writing is when he is lobbing softball interview questions to under-interviewed third team colts. Guys like Chad Simpson and Tim Jennings. Those articles actually provided something I couldn’t get anywhere else, and that was of value.
It's been too long since the last nonsense bashing post
Those who have nothing good to say about themselves are forced to try to put down others.
Insert Clever Statement Here
Total crap..
I can’t get that 5 minutes back…
"If me and King Kong went into an alley, only one of us would come out. And it wouldn't be the monkey."
"I don't really trust a sane person."
"I never met a man I didn't want to fight." The one and only Lyle Alzado
Good Article
would read again.
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
Read it again
Felt like it wasn’t as good the second time around, seemed like I knew the plot.
I eagerly await your post from Feb. 2011 about how you shared a beer (figuratively) with Dan Dakich and you think he’s a swell guy.
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
by SpazMo on May 6, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
Leonard: "Sheldon, why is this letter in the trash?"
Sheldon: "Well, there's always the possibility that a trash can spontaneously formed around the letter, but Occam's Razor would suggest that someone threw it out."
Last piece of Colts merch added to my collection: iPod Touch skin.
by BlueMark1821 on May 6, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty ugly, BBS
Dakich is a class act. Chris Polian is not the boss yet and shouldn’t get the “tough questions” you want to hear. “Welcome to the show, Chris. Let’s jump right in: I hate your father – not professionally – but personally. Why is your father such a dick?”
by naptown_ninja on May 6, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
General Manager isn't just a fluff title
Yeah, he can stand to get some tough questions.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 6, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
alls I'm sayin is
A little on-air fluff goes a long way in ensuring a long future of open dialogue and candid analysis. You make a good point. The GM ought to be able to have a more in depth conversation and I’m sure he will. The Colts aren’t going anywhere and Dakich is on air every day. Don’t you think Chris Polian’s time in hot-seat will come? The issue is BBS’s Polian-hate. And this time we get some Dan Dakich blow-job insults to boot. It’s juvenile.
by naptown_ninja on May 6, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s juvenile.
Ok. I’m fine with that. How boring would life be if it didn’t get a little juvenile every now and then?
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 6, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
funny
since a few other things that have happened behind the scenes that I haven’t shared because I’m not that much of a jerk
Your not enough of a jerk to actually report on the things that can be backed up/defended/proven. But you are enough of a jerk to imply them.
Sleazy journalism 101.
Stay classy BBS.
by kasey_junk on May 6, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
What's really hypocritical
Are all the people on here trying to call out BBS for “bad journalism” then turning around and admitting he’s not a journalist in the first place.
If you want “journalism” go read the puff and fluff in the Indy Star. If you want a blog, then read a blog. Reading one while expecting the other is about as nonsensical as calling out a NON-journalist for not being a journalist.
BBS is a blogger, not much different than anyone else on this board or in this "community." If he is guilty of "bad journalism" – even though he isn’t a journalist – for calling people out then those who call him out are guilty of the same.
Here’s an idea: if you don’t like a particular article then DON’T READ IT. It’s not too difficult. Do you agree with all of your friend’s opinions on sports? Really, do you? Do you call them unethical, non-professional or a complete loser when you disagree with them? Do you suggest they never should have expressed their opinion in the first place?
Some of ya’all need to take this FAN BLOG a lot less seriously and not be so uptight.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 6, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
What's really realy hypocrtical
Are all of the people on here trying to call out the people calling out BBS for “bad journalism” then turning around and admitting they aren’t really bloggers in the first place.
If you want ‘Bloggers’, go to someplace like bloguin or … uhm… blogspot or… uhm… something else with a blog in it, and read a blog. If you want to read people making user comments, you’re a moron. Reading one while expecting the other is about as nonsensical as calling out a NON-Blogger for being a blogger.
The users making comments are comment making people, not bloggers. Words placed here that don’t really make sense because I’m getting really sidetracked from my original goal.
Here’s an idea: If you don’t like a particular comment, DON’T READ IT (comma mine). It’s not too difficult. For example: I don’t read comments made my women. I also don’t make comments made by people from foreign countries. I also don’t read comments that aren’t political or religious in nature. Do you agree with everything I say? This is rhetorical, because of course you do, you aren’t dumb. Do you call people that don’t agree with me unethical, non-professional, or a complete loser? I hope so, as that’s the only appropriate response to someone that doesn’t agree with me. And yes, you should suggest those people never express their viewpoints in the first place, the only thing that can come of dumb people sharing their view is having freedom of speech revoked.
Some of you guys are taking COMMENTS too seriously.
NO POLITICS OR RELIGION.
I love Iowa and Bob Sanders, btw.
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
*really*
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
Doesn't SB nation
mean sports blog nation? We’re all confused and hurt. The journos hate the bloggers. The bloggers hate each other AND movers and shakers they cant get interviews with. The users don’t know if they’re merely commenting (lame) or blogging (important). You’re freaking out because you actually read all the stuff you say you don’t read (how else could possibly discern the content). The off season is so long and stupid….Slurp jobs for everyone! (even the haters)
by naptown_ninja on May 6, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
whats a blog anyhow?
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
Its not hypocritical if you think bloggers can be journalists, and that BBS is one.
This is not a fan blog. A fan blog is run by fans for fun. This blog is run by a paid employee of a media organization. That means it is his profession (though if he has fun, great, that means it is a good profession). All I expect from someone doing their profession, is that they be professional.
The profession he is in (or at least the one it most closely resembles) is journalism. He publishes news, analysis, and commentary. He is syndicated. He is linked to by MSM and quoted on the mainstream airwaves. He wants to be treated as a professional by his peers, he wants and receives the access of a professional and I assume if he ever gets in trouble he wants to be afforded the same rights as those in his profession (shield laws, censorship protections, etc.)
The only thing he doesn’t want from his profession is to be held to the same standard. That is the hypocricy.
Why don't you ask BBS if he considers himself a journalist
I think you are taking this blog way too seriously. I most certainly do not view BBS as a journalist. Not in the slightest. And I wouldn’t want it any other way.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dakich is cool.
Really like Dan Dakich and his interview style. Why are you being such a hater?
Reminds me...
…of the BBS interview with Peter King. When put face-to-face with the guy, you’re criticism wasn’t any where to be found.
by MileHighHoosier on May 6, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions
The funny part is I’ve heard Dakich say on numerous occassions that he likes Stampede Blue. I know he reads it often because he references Stampede Blue a lot. I doubt he’ll do that anymore.
There's a new blog in town, the 12th HorseMan.
by KingRichard on May 6, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe...
BBS is some super-intelligent journalist, demigod-type who just gets great amusement out of posting crap like this on a weekly basis and watching all of us rant and rave about it in the comments then subserviently come back to the site for more Colts information.
I mean at the end of the day…his website hits still go up whether we are praising or bashing him, right?
BBS 1, SB 0.
Dakich
A few things:
1) This article is apparently “so horrible and so terrible,” yet tons of people read it and responded to it.
2) I love how people jump all over me for violating some kind of code of journalistic “ethics,” as if I’m some kind of reporter for the Indy Star, or a radio announcer on 1070, or something. If some of you same people held folks like Dakich, Kravitz, and others to a similar standard, we’d probably have better sports coverage and sports journalism in Indiana. Just a thought.
3) Dakich does indeed like Stampede Blue, and he is a nice guy (as I said earlier in the post). However, if he takes my sharp criticisms of his current profession personally, then he is a bit of a wimp. and I don’t think Dakich is a wimp. Dakich has been called much worse by many others. He likely read my post, saw it for what it was (a fan taking offense to him not doing what he is paid to do), and filed it away. People who take criticisms personally are silly people who should be dismissed and ignored. If I got mad at all the names readers and media people called me (sometimes behind my back), I’d be a mess.
4) I’ve continued to criticize Peter King and Mike Florio since my meeting them. What I have held off on since meeting with King are jokes about his weight (he’s not really all that fat) and his intelligence (he’s a smart guy). His opinions on football, just like Florio’s, can be a bit on the stupid side. However, like Florio, Peter doesn’t take those kinds of criticisms personally. If anything, he appreciates them.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue. Please make an account so you can post a FanPost, make a FanShot, add some comments, and make some noise. Accounts are free, and only require an email address.
by Brad Wells on May 6, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that's what I love about you
In a post complaining about the journalistic standards of someone in the media, you get indignant about people complaining about your journalistic standards.
Big Brass Ones Sir. Kudos.
by kasey_junk on May 6, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
mission accomplished
If your mission was to generate traffic, mission accomplished there. Mike and Mike do the same thing with their radio show all the time: find a story, one of them (or both) take a side that most people will not agree with, and then watch the emails, texts, twitter, etc blow up. Proven model, works well.
Don’t know that I really disagree with the general idea behind your original post, but I really am ready for the football season to start so we can start talking about real football stories!!!
by ColtsFanInTexas on May 6, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Kravitz does it too
He’s a master at it.
The difference between the examples is that people generally like M+M, even in their worst moments of incompetence. The same cannot be said of Kravitz.
It’s up to the reader to decide which example is more like this site’s author.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
who cares.
- I dont care if BP skins kittens alive and eats their raw flesh, if he gets my Colts another superbowl be a dick all day I dont care.
- so what if the guy was a suck up. if you own a shop of some sort you dont get repeat customers by treating people like crap in your store. Its kind of the same thing.
- didn’t we just draft a bunch of guys? Shouldn’t we hear more about them? Or what about training camp. Or well… anything else.
what?
whats the deal. I listed a 1 a 2 and a 3… wierd formatting glitch?
winnah!
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
just roll with it imo.
say “they’re all just that important”
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
If you use the # sign at the beginning
of a line, it triggers SBN’s auto formatting. This particular one is auto-list.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
There is a security involved when writing a blog/editorial
The blogger can use the argument of ‘journalistic integrity’ and ‘ethics’ to someone else, but if someone else calls them out on the lack of the former, they and the supporters can always come back with the argument of “But, it’s just a blog!”
Sorry, if it’s just a blog, then bloggers need to stop extolling the importance of the blog…because it’s Just A Blog.
by Gwen on May 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Wrecked
Nice…
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Try some Pot maybe?
Look, I love the site, it’s great reading comments from fellow blue nation fans and such, but lately this is getting annoying. Why is there so much negativity from BBS? C’mon dude, media friendly or not I think you need to relax and maybe smoke some Cannabis.. might do you some good dude…
Other than that, keep the Colts info coming, albeit hopefully not in such an annoying pissed off type of feel to it maybe?
Sorry if people don’t agree
Yeah, that's exacly what we need...
A stoned version of BBS bitching about how he’s pissed that they don’t make Jello Pudding Pops anymore. And his English is bad enough, can you imagine the amount of misspellings and quadruple negatives if he was stoned out of his gourd? No thanks.
by peytonsurdaddy on May 7, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
What! They don't make Jello Pudding Pops anymore!!?
oh man… i’m seriously bummed.
heh
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
I'm tellin' ya -
it’s ALL about the Snickers Ice Cream Bars…oh. my. gawd.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
oh YES!
haven’t thought about this in ages, but back in the day… i grew up in the 70’s… when i got the munchies, i’d eat brown sugar and butter sandwiches.
If you decide to try this, use squishy Wonder bread… gotta be squishy Wonder bread.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
Never did brown sugar
and peanut butter. Did regular sugar and peanut butter sammies. And, of course, Wonder Bread. I was a kid in the 70’s too.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa! you're as messed up as i am!
i knew i liked you for a reason. heh
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
Stoned version bitching?
In my experience, people are much more calm and relaxed when high (that is if they are the type that don’t get paranoid). Thus, I figured it would knock some more sense into BBS and less hatred.
With respect to writing quality, cannabis actually wouldn’t decrease any ‘quality’ of writing. Cannabis usually makes people more creative and thoughtful not the opposite.. i.e. Steven King, a longtime cannabis user (as well as millions of other writers and musicians).
I'm pretty sure PUD was kidding.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
uh-huh.. guess i missed the joke
fair enough.. so many misinformed people on cannabis use out there, sounded like an ignorant (stereotype-ish) reply that’s why i responded. my bad

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