More from Chris Polian: Bigger guards do not signal a "shift" in offensive line philosophy
Last year, it was pretty obvious that the Colts had made a shift in philosophy along the defensive line. When Tony Dungy coached the Colts, he was often quoted as saying size had nothing to do with the atrocious play of the defensive tackles during the 2006 and 2008 seasons. During both those years, the Colts run defense set records for inept play, often starting people like Raheem Brock (275 pounds), Eric Foster (268 pounds), and Keyunta Dawson (254 pounds) at a position where the normal weight of a player is well over 300.
After Dungy left and Jim Caldwell took over, you stopped seeing Eric Foster starting games at DT. Dawson was converted back to defensive end, and Raheem Brock was transitioned to a "joker" linebacker for some defensive packages. He rarely played DT in 2009, unless it was on a rush down. The full-time replacements in 2009 at DT were Antonio Johnson (310 pounds), Daniel Muir (312 pounds), Fili Moala (303 pounds), and Ed Johnson (300 pounds). Also, in 2009, the Colts drafted Terrance Taylor (319 pounds) in the 4th Round out of Michigan. Taylor didn't make the final roster, but his drafting, along with the other players listed, signaled a pretty obvious shift in philosophy along the defensive line.
Now, you might be asking why I keep italicizing the word "shift" in every paragraph. I'm doing so because, for some reason, Chris Polian and the Colts don't like that word when it's used to explain a change in philosophy or mindset with the Colts and their personnel decisions. Why do they not like this word? Beats me. What I do know is that their explanations for why they don't think the change in offensive linemen this off-season is a shift are rather silly and humorous.
After the jump, Chris Polian explains why dumping the team's best guard last year, Ryan Lilja (6'2, 290 pounds), and replacing him with players like Andy Alleman (6'4, 310 pounds) and Jacques McClendon (6'3, 324 pounds) is not a "shift."
Chris Polian:
You, I don’t know if it’s a "shift." And I think its kind of analogous to what we did on the defensive line last year, where we may have gotten a little bit too far from the norm, and may have gotten to a little bit of an extreme. Anytime you acquire a player, you’re certainly looking at his size and his strength. Its an old Bill Parcells axiom: You don’t want to become too much of one thing at a position. Otherwise, your team becomes that. Just as we focused a little bit more on size that the defensive line last year, its been a little more of a focus [on size with the offensive line], but I don’t want to say it’s a "shift" because we would have always liked big offensive linemen. You know, Ryan Diem’s big guy. Tarik certainly was. Charlie Johnson is 300-plus pounds. It's something that’s been… it’s not a shift because the guys we’re bringing in still have feet and stil have athletic ability. But, to be honest, its probably something that we are taking a bit more focus on.
Look, I really have no idea why Chris Polian, who sounds much more media-friendly and savvy than his father, is fumbling all over himself to to explain why all the guards on the Colts are seemingly over 310 pounds now, but it's fairly obvious that the brass at West 56th Street do not like this word "shift" even though that is exactly what is going on here.
Their philosophy has indeed "shifted."
To prove this, I'll provide you all with the definition of the word "shift."
shift
–verb (used with object)
2. to transfer from one place, position, person, etc., to another
So, um, yeah. When the definition of the word is placed right there in front of you, all this juggling and disagreement over the use of one word when applied to an obvious change in personnel preference between last year and this year is a bit humorous. It's especially humorous when Chris Polian says it isn't a shift, and then compares the... what word should I use that means the same as shift but isn't shift... change? transition? alteration? swing?... oh, whatever! It's a friggin' shift and I'm calling it a shift. The Polians can disagree all they want. Next they'll tell me the sky isn't blue, it's navy.
Anyway, not wanting to call the offensive line changes a shift, and then comparing it to the stark shift in defensive line philosophy last year, just seems kind of contradictory.
If the Colts were always interested in bigger lineman, why did they always bring in people like Jeff Saturday, Ryan Lilja, and Kyle DeVan? If it isn't a shift, why dump (for no reason whatsoever, it seems) the team's best guard (Lilja) and replace him with a cast-off from the horrid Kansas City Chiefs (Alleman)? Alleman is certainly not a better overall player than Lilja; nor is McClendon, Adam Terry (if they move him to guard), Jaimie Thomas, Mike Pollak, or Jamey Richard.
The only difference between those guys and Ryan Lilja is that they are bigger.
And, no offense, if Tony Dungy and Howard Mudd were still coaching on this team, I highly doubt the club would be dumping smaller players for bigger ones. It's likely not a coincidence that the departure of Dungy and Mudd had something to do with this little shift in personnel along the defensive and offensive lines. Dungy was a defensive guru, and spent a lot of time working with the defense and the d-line. Mudd was the o-line coach, and he preferred coaching smaller, quicker players.
Again, I like Chris Polian and he seems like a good, intelligent guy. But please, don't assume we are stupid, Chris. Don't assume you can just talk a bunch of contradictory nonsense that will placate us into thinking that the Colts have not made an obvious, deliberate shift in how they evaluate and bring in offensive line talent.
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Same old, same old
I think they’re trying to say they’re not changing any philosophies. They’re (pretending) like they’ve always been after big OGs. I’m not shocked at all about any of either Polians’ weird behavior. They’re always cloak and dagger. If they are shifting anything, for whatever reason they don’t want anyone to know about it. Just like they lied to us about the Manning injury (it was a blatant lie, if you recall). And they’ll continue to lie about this strategy shift, for God knows what reason. Same Polian, different first name.
BTW, I don’t care either way.
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the famous “second surgery” two seasons ago was what I was referring to when I said they lied to us about the Manning injury
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I know
I kind of care because answers like this are, to me, insulting. I could go off on another rants against Dakich, who probably should have called out Chris on his fumbled definition of “shift,” but I’ve done enough Dakich bashing for one month.
The Colts really enjoy controlling the lexicon when it comes to how things should be written about or discussed. It’s not their place to do this, and they often do not like it when someone calls them out on their obvious silliness when they do it.
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I like the Shift regardless of whether it is a Shift or not. It appears that Jim Caldwell, Larry Coyer and Pete Metzlaars are putting their thumbprint on this team. I love Dungy, will always , but, this is long overdue. The fact that we have been as successful as we have is really amazing. The Polians’ keep everyone at arms length. I like it, I really wouldnt have a confidence or faith in the Colts organization, if Polian and company listened to or even cowed down to the media. The media is there to report news, the GM is there to Manage the organization. So, I respect your position as a member of the press, but, your opinion is ultimately that. Polian is tried and true in this league. Polian insulates himself away from the minor and insignificant issues of the day, it’s that sort of issue that causes division on a team.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Excellent point.
Take a look at Cleveland with regard to media/fan influence. No bueno.
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by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it too
Especially if it helps the Colts win another Super Bowl. :)
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Someone please set me straight...
I thought the reason the DTs were so much smaller in 2008 was because Pitcock retired suddenly and Big Ed got caught smoking the Mary J. So, we brought in Mookie in ‘08 and drafted guys that were our normal size the following year. I remain confused about this. I didn’t perceive it as a “shift” so much as a run of bad luck.
I am relying on my memory here, so I could be completely wrong. If I am, I’d like to know.
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by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well
Dawson was drafted specifically to play tackle. He’s 254 pounds. Foster was signed to as a collegiate free agent, and they used him solely as a DT in 2008. He’s almost the exact same height and weights as Dwight Freeney! They also used to have Darrell Reid, who was a 280 pound DT, and Montae Reagor (285 pounds).
So, using small DTs was not just a by-product of injuries and silliness in 2008.
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using them as everydown DTs was due to injury though.
and Foster got more snaps than anyone but Brock on the DL, almost all at DT. So I see 2008 as situational guys being forced into a every down role due to circumstances.
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by shake n bake on May 6, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
*more snaps than anyone but Brock on the DL, last year....
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2008 was so close to being a lost season (like 2001).
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I'd argue that season was when Peyton decided that he would not allow this team to be mediocre.
and SuperManning was born.
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Peyton was incredible that season.
That MVP is what keeps it from being a lost season.
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That really was a lost season.... and Manning still got 12 games.
Honestly, seeing him somehow win the Vikes game, the Pats game, the Charger game with that 4th down pass, the Jacksonville game, and the best of them all, the game where he went into the eventual champs building on a flurried day and beat them 24-20, that was incredible. I think that was the second most points the Steelers gave up all year long, and by far the most they gave up in Heinz. Manning was just incredible. Any other QB, and that was a 6 win team.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
Agreed.
I’d like to interject that the D played a HUGE part in the Steelers game, though. ROFLsburger threw 3 picks i think (the last a desperation heave to the endzone). and there were 2 or 3 sick goal line stands in one series of downs. The team came together that game, or as much as it could in it’s patchwork form at the time. I think (forgive my fuzzy memory here) Ratliff and Jennings were starting at corner… enough said.
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"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
That MVP is what keeps it from being a lost season for me.
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finals do suck.
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Your memory is off
That whole paragraph in the article is wrong – The four man rotation last year was Mookie and Muir on run downs (the “starters”) and Foster and Brock on passing downs. Moala often didn’t even dress. Brock didn’t play a single down of linebacker, and while he was the left end sometimes, he was primarily a DT. Also, it’s hard to call Ed a full time replacement when he lasted just a few weeks.
Down in this comment, you’re right, though Dawson was not drafted “specifically” to be a DT. They drafted him as a guy who could be a pass rush weapon, then decided to put him at DT. It was an experiment that was not an amazing success. Still, I’m inclined to say he was a more effective weapon as a 3rd down DT than as a 1st down DE, which is why we may not see him next year. (Although it’s entirely possible that he’ll just assume Brock’s role if Moala can’t step up.)
Also, Darrell Reid was not 280 in 2008. And he actually played a fair bit of DE that year. It was funny seeing him outside and Dawson inside.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
Also,
the Colts made Muir drop like 30 pounds before the 2009 season.
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I think that started during 2008
they picked him up injured, 340+ pounds and having been taught 3-4 technique for the previous 1 1/2 years. No shocker he rarely saw the field that year.
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Kudos to him for getting through that though.
Love seeing that kind of story.
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He wasn't in a 3-4
The Packers ran a 4-3 while he was there. They just converted to a 3-4 with Dom Capers coming in before last season.
by TrustInPolian on May 6, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
that's absolutely right
and I swear I’ve heard that 3-4 line from tons of people over the last year.
Thanks for the correction.
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possibly from me
Not sure why I had that in my head.
Their gap responsibility was different though, I think. He definitely had to adjust and learn something new.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
Thx
Jason Terry at OG would be… interesting.
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Chris Polian also said my moobs werent a sign that I was gaining weight.
And his dad also said that Tony Ugoh could be as good as D’brickashaw Ferguson… In the middle of last year.
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by SpazMo on May 6, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand
Recced. :)
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YAY
I get excited whenever someone uses the word moobs.
Over at CHFF I’m having fun with Steeler fans who legitimately think Ben (with his moobs) is not fat. So I got to toss in a few gratuitous uses of the word moobs.
Moobs.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
by willyduer on May 6, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hee hee hee
Moobs.
Nothing's complicated if you understand it.
I'll rec
anything with the word “moobs” in it!
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by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
DT snaps from all 19 games last year
Foster, 810
Muir, 645
Mookie, 555
Moala, 187
Ed, 139
Gill, 71
Throw in 936 snaps from Brock between DE, rush DT and Joker and it’s obvious the Colts are still using undersized DTs. They have just been allowed to move back to a situational role now that they have competent 300lbers integrated into the system.
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by shake n bake on May 6, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Starters
Starters at DT from Week One to Super Bowl were Muir and Johnson. Ed started for three games before he was cut.
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ok and....
the point is that undersized DTs still got a ton of snaps in situational roles, just like in the years before 2008.
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Up until the last half of last season
I think there could have been a case made that the best DT (I don’t count Brock) was Foster. I agree with everything ese you’re saying.
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Foster was great.
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I like Foster...
I also liked Ratliff…he made some outstanding plays for us. I kind of wish we could have held onto him.
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by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I have NO idea why Ratliff was cut
He was about 4.2 billion times better than Cushion.
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and yes
I know more about Football than real scouts and GMs, fuck off
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At least you are saying it with a smile on your face.
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i just wanted PTB to know
that I wasnt telling HER to FO, but people that are like, ‘omg these people know more than you’.
Well, they don’t know more than me in general. Maybe about football, but not in general. And while Jennings might have more football skills than Ratliff, in general, he sucks, so, you see, my general knowledge is more useful than football knowledge in this case.
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I caught the preemptive strike…
;-)
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by peytonsthebest on May 6, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jennings wasn't that fast either.
He was horrible at closing on the ball.
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slow + skilled >>>>>>
fast + useless
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Pssssst...........
We play a Tampa-2 defense.
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Correct
but the difference has nothing to do with corners. It’s the role of the MLB and safeties that changes.
Not sure what you’re arguing here.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
probably
or they’d have kept him.
Jennings was underrated. That doesn’t make him good, not at all, but he was better than most people here think.
I don’t remember Ratliff’s strengths and weaknesses. He was just there as a 5th stringer when they needed him.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
he was a horrible punt returner
I’ll never forget that.
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10 things
1) The Colts played mostly Tampa-2 last year.
2) Jennings wasn’t any good in man coverage. Whether the Colts were playing man or zone, the cushion was too much, the offense would run the proper route against the coverage+cushion, and get a completion. (normally the 10 yard come back route)
3) If we have Ratliff and not Jennings, i promise you, Drew Brees doesn’t complete 9,295 straight passes in the second half to the WR on Jennings side of the field in the Super Bowl.
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For being too fat.
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Also
What’s your source for those numbers? It would be interesting to see how many of Foster 810 snaps where on obvious passing downs.
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Pro Football Focus
really the most useful (and objective) thing they do imo
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
Their "rankings" are worthless
but the other stuff is great. Who was playing what snap, covering what guy, etc.
Semper ubi sub ubi!
It's never that simple.
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if it was that simple
They would cut Ugoh, Saturday, Diem, Johnson, et al and go pick out the first 7 guys to walk into Lucas Oil Stadium and win the Super Bowl for the next 10 years.
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Maybe they could go to Japan and sign
a couple sumo wrestlers.
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Sumo wrestlers
are the property of Hockey Forums that think a 400lb guy would be the ultimate goalie.
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What do we have to pay to gain the rights?
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Hockey will trade Sumo Wrestlers to football for
some viewers.
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How many?
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enough to get a contract with ESPN
and get hockey off of NBC/Versus.
Also, BRING BACK GARY THORNE AND BILL CLEMENTS!!! (childhood flashbacks)
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Can't be done.
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Sumo wrestlers have been considered before, and there's one tryout on record
Link: http://asianweek.com/2001_07_13/sports15_sumo.htm
Doesn’t seem to have worked out well.
Besides which, the NFL’s already got it’s fat bodies in Wilfork and Cody. Does it really need any more?? :D
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No. It is not that simple.
Tony Ugoh’s one competence happens to be run blocking, and while he’s not small, he’s not an Iupati or a Loadholt either.
Size is only one characteristic, and it can be offset. What I’d want to see is a good maxing out of all relevant characteristics: Size, quickness, agility, and hand technique. Miss any of those, and you’re vulnerable. And being a 400lb agile guard won’t matter a bit if your technique is so poor a much smaller DT can break your grasp and get by you. If you can’t lock onto a rusher and sustain a block, what good are you?
Size cannot be taken by itself; otherwise, failed Japanese sumo wrestlers would be dominating US offensive lines by now.
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Yet
The only place we ran decently last year was behind Lilja and Saturday – the smallest guys on the line.
I.e. skill trumps size.
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Chris
Chris is just covering for Dad and Dad’s complete inability to admit he may have been wrong about something. Chris does, overall, seem infinitely more reasonable though. From a public relations perspective, having Bill fade into the background while Chris becomes the mouthpiece of management would be good for the franchise.
A theory...
I believe it is possible that the reason the two people who are in charge of acquiring, overseeing the development of, and ultimately the retention of the best possible 53 players for their final roster don’t want to suggest there is a “shift” from one kind of player to another is because there are still an awful lot of players on the roster now, competing for spots now, and who are probably even likely to make the final roster now that are not in the “new mold” of players that they have brought in.
The people who administrate and oversee the organization are less concerned with placating the wishes of journalists and bloggers and more concerns about maintaining what is considered by many around the league as possibly the team year-in and year-out that has the best chemistry. No player is over-valued, under-valued, makes the team or does not make the team, based upon his weight, his size, or his speed compared to another. For the Polians and the Colts, for some time now, it’s about performance and execution.
As a result, he admitted that they are focusing on possibly adding some size to the offensive and defensive lines so those units on the team do not “become too much of one thing.” But he’s not ready to accept the idea of a “shift” because regardless of dictionary definitions the general picture that paints is that the Colts no longer want, value, or will retain the best players available for their roster but will instead keep bigger players, etc.
You say to the media, publicly, “yes, Dan, I think we’ve reached the conclusion that our players are too small, not heavy enough, in order to be effective and so we’ll be replacing those small players with bigger ones… it’s a shift in our philosophy and you can expect to see more of that in the future,” then you’re shooting yourself in the foot by discouraging players you might want to draft, or recruit to accept your contract offers, etc. that coming to Indianapolis under 300 lbs. and trying to compete for time at defensive tackle is a waste of time.
The reasons to say or not say things when you’re trying to run a franchise in professional football are far more complicated than, “well he should just say it because the fans would rather hear it, and the bloggers, and the media doesn’t like it either >.<.” They’ll say, “you don’t have to like it, that’s fine, but we’ll continue to put together a 53 man squad that is capable of winning 12+ games a year, is almost a shoe-in for the playoffs, and almost always a favorite to get to the Super Bowl every year and we’ll do it with the best players we can… no matter how big they are.”
Are they focusing on getting bigger? I think Chris admitted that, and referenced the defense line last year in the same vein, but are they “shifting” their philosophy from one where quickness/athleticism etc. are their primary focus? I don’t think he, Bill, or anyone is comfortable making a statement like that because when you get down to brass tax, they’ll retain the players they feel fit the bill best regardless of size.
As for the release of Lilja, I think it probably has to do with his performance in run blocking to a degree, maybe the size of his contract, maybe the status of his health long-term, or something that none of us on the outside really know or appreciate at all. Do I think it’s a blatant sign that, well duh, he was released because he is only 290 lbs? Not necessarily.
Well put
You agree with BBS, but you are not insulted by the imperious Polians. Shift or no shift, last year felt like the Colts finally started to get out of the rut they had been in for a while on the defensive side of the ball. This year brings more of the same with special teams and the O line getting overhauled. Finally, when a little old lady asks “where’s the beef?”, we can say it’s in Colts locker room.
by naptown_ninja on May 6, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lilja was cut
because he was expensive.
He was the best guard last year, but that wasn’t saying much. The interior line, which was the most reliable during the regular season, was decidedly less so in Miami.
With the retirement of HOF-level Coach Mudd, we have a new and inexperienced OL coach. Maybe he won’t be as good at getting the most out of undersized undrafted prospects. A good hedge against that is acquiring skilled players who also happen to be larger. There are a million different reasons why they acquired the guys they did (who still have to battle to make the team, it should be noted), and none of them are necessarily a damning indictment of the player who was just released, again, largely because of money.
Nor is Alleman “his replacement.” He’s a scrap heap player that they picked up afterwards. The timing was close and they each have Chiefs ties, but it wasn’t a one-for-one swap with Alleman expected to start. I’d consider that a long shot.
This conversation is going to get really interesting come November and December when Peyton’s numbers are a bit down and sacks are a bit up. Regardless of the personnel, the simple loss of Mudd makes me quite pessimistic about the line’s play next year. Sure, maybe they’ll be a bit stronger and maul people for a few 3rd and 1 conversions straight ahead, but I see it being a tougher road for Peyton next year. Last year’s line was flawed, but he was familiar with it. Next year it’ll be brand new.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
by willyduer on May 6, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

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