The Curse of the Third Round continues: Kevin Thomas injuries knee, possibly done for 2010 season
by Brad Wells on May 7, 2010 5:50 PM EDT
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Yeah, I was kinda right. From Colts.com:
Defensive back Kevin Thomas sustained a knee injury during last week’s rookie camp that could cause him to miss the 2010 season, the Indianapolis Colts announced Friday.
Thomas (6-0, 192, Southern California) was the club’s third-round pick in the April 22-24 NFL Draft, the 94th selection overall. Thomas was injured in the final practice of the April 30-May 2 camp that was held for draft picks and undrafted free agents. He is scheduled for surgery.
This is what I wrote just two weeks ago, when the Colts reached big time for Thomas in the third round of the 2010 NFL Draft:
Where do I begin? How can I accurately convey the total f&$k up Bill Polian made with this pick?
Forget about grabbing an o-lineman here for a second. Passing on Corey Wootton? On Akwasi Owusu-Ansah? For this guy? Come on! Are you kidding me? Look, I'm not questioning Bill Polian's competence on the NFL Draft, but his record with screwing up third round picks is pretty well known. There's a reason we call it the "Third Round Curse."
Regarding Thomas, he was so under-the-radar that we didn't even do a draft profile for him. Hell, Mocking the Draft doesn't even have a report on him. And this guy is a Third Rounder? Ahead of so many other defensive backs, to say nothing of the GLARING need at left tackle? Reach pick, utterly and completely.
Many of you absolutely crucified me in the comments for writing that. Don't worry, I don't take insults personally. And with this selection, I had a pretty good idea I was right. Considering that just about every scouting report I read (if I could find one) on this guy said he was injury prone, are we surprised that at his VERY FIRST PRACTICE he gets hurt!
Unbelievable.
Of course, all the insults and silly comments attacking me for having the stones to do what so many others didn't (criticize Bill Polian for making an obviously bad pick) are forgiven. When the Thomas pick was called in at Radio City two Fridays ago, I went off on a rant in front of Don Banks and another SI writer (whose name escapes me) (it was Tony Paulene of Draft Insider) about how Polian continues to bust third rounders.
Hey Don, I said, Bill Polian is terrible with third round picks. Write that in your next article.
Banks chuckled and seemed to acknowledge the observation. My colleagues, Jason Brewer at Bleeding Green Nation and Joel Thorman at Arrowhead Pride, also enjoyed listening to me lose my mind over the selection. Tony Paulene, who was sitting next to Banks, nodded with me and agreed it was a bad choice. Of course, not many people criticized the pick the next day because national writers seem to have some silly fear that Bill Polian will prove them wrong. I don't understand this mindset. If a pick looks bad, it probably is. And in the case of the Kevin Thomas pick, Polian obviously reached for this player from USC when other, more productive (and likely healthier) players where available.
With this injury, the curse of the third round pick continues. Since 2002, players like Joseph Jefferson, Donald Strickland, Ben Hartstock, Gilbert Gardner, Sweat Pea Burns, Freddy Keiaho, Dante Hughes, and Quinn Pitcock were drafted in the third round. All have been disappointments. Only Austin Collie, third rounder from BYU last year, shows promise Jerraud Powers, a corner from Auburn, shows promise.
For a team that is very top heavy, with mega-salaries locked up in stars like Peyton Manning and Dwight Freeney, busting third rounders like this hurts. Bill Polian is still a great talent evaluator, and I am not saying this latest third round screw-up taints his legacy or anything. However, he definitely messed up this draft selection, and should be held accountable for it.
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Collie was a 4th rounder.
Wheeler and Powers show promise.
Thomas’s ankle and leg injuries from 4 years ago and his shoulder injuries from 3 years ago doesn’t mean his body is fragile.
Well
Today’s news suggests otherwise.
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Silly Ty
That doesn’t support BBS’ conclusion or logic/reasoning in his article. It also doesn’t support his opinion that, from what he read elsewhere because he knew nothing about Thomas, he was injury prone and therefore susceptible to further injury.
This news sucks, and it certainly is an early blow to the 2010 draft, but it doesn’t mean Polian was an idiot, that anyone analyzing the pick based upon third party information was right, or that third round picks are “cursed.”
On a positive note, I am excited to see the development of Brandon King and Thad Turner as the information I could gather on both players, and the video that is available for them, suggests that both have promise.
by bamock on May 7, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Everything I could find on the guy suggested he was injury prone. Combine that with the fact that most every board had him as a late round pick or not projected to be drafted, and BBS was pretty spot on. Add the fact that it is not even close to a given that he will be a contributor to the Colts other than as a backup in his career given his reported lack of physicality and cushion concerns, and as a third round pick, bust potential was high from day 1. This only decreases the odds of a successful pick. Polian is good at drafting, but most here are reluctant to say anything negative about any pick, even though every year there seems to be at least one pick that has you wondering wtf.
by strandedincarolina on May 7, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
late round/undrafted?
I never saw that.
1st three projections I could find
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on May 7, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mid-rounder for those who were willing to take a chance on him
But I do know that he was off several teams’ draft boards altogether due to injury concerns.
Nothing's complicated if you understand it.
if he only has 1 pick you're wondering wtf
he’s doing exceptionally well.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Well, I have been saying on this site for a month that we need to invite more DB’s to TC. Maybe with the events of minicamp this will come to fruition. BP is unmatched as an NFL GM, his ability to find hidden gems is second to none. I also agree with Bamock, the undrafted rookie free agents Turner and King appear to have promise. The Thomas pick did seem out of left field, but, the 3rd round curse is only an anomoly in my eyes.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Makes sense to me.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
Injuries
Injuries happen. We can’t control when or where. If Thomas bounces back from this and performs then it’s not a wasted pick.
Let’s not forget that Pitcock showed a great deal of promise until his sudden retirement, which no one saw coming. I don’t see how we can blame Polian for that. Wheeler is still developing but was a solid LB’er last year. Keiaho didn’t light up the boards, but was a good LB’er. Not every player drafted will be a star, much less a starter. A player who contributes for 4-5 years, the average length of an NFL career, is a success.
by 2ndBlueGeneration on May 7, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
To be fair, it was a fairly unanimous "WTF" when Thomas' name was called.
We were all wanting AOA for the most part as our CB option, and as soon as it came out Thomas was a walking band-aid I despised the pick even more. Still I was hoping he’d at least be on the bench because Lacey can outplay his ass, not because he pulled a Sorgi and injured himself by doing nothing.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
But how many of those guys are Rookies that we passed up better quality and less injury history for?
All the while investing a third round pick and somewhere on the order of a million dollars a year on?
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
But AOA had just as good stats, better career numbers, and no injury history...
Even though he played DII, he put up 10 times better numbers than Thomas did :(. I just really wanted the dude to be honest….
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I would have selected Ghee,
but he was declared Jennings #2, because a report said he gives too much cushion.
How, exactly, should he be held accountable?
However, he definitely messed up this draft selection, and should be held accountable for it.
Should Jimmy Irsay take him out behind the shed?
Really, grow up.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
hehe!
This made me smile!
Sail on silvergirl, Sail on by. Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine. If you need a friend I'm sailing right behind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. - Simon and Garfunkel
Reading comprehension
Bill Polian is still a great talent evaluator, and I am not saying this latest third round screw-up taints his legacy or anything.
Thanks for playing.
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Further reading comprehension:
Bill Polian is still a great talent evaluator, and I am not saying this latest third round screw-up taints his legacy or anything. However, he definitely messed up this draft selection, and should be held accountable for it.
Again, please ’splain how he should be held accountable.
Your arrogance of late is truly astounding.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
nicely said
You should win something
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
by teej813 on May 7, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Awww...
I’m touched. ;-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty......
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
I'd be shocked if he responds
Insert Clever Statement Here
by MrNFL on May 7, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. What is depressing to me is that after the site gets rewarded with credentials for the first time, it coincides with BBS getting worse and worse ever year. If I were BP or a colts official and I log on to this site and read just the front page articles, I would completely dismiss this site as a waste of time.
by sandsnake on May 7, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well what do you know, no response
He spews garbage and doesn’t respond when called out on it. He tries to mock PTB but fails, is proven wrong, and goes and hides like the coward he is.
Insert Clever Statement Here
by MrNFL on May 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Held accountable by the fans
We are the ones who fund his paycheck afater all. Hold him accountable by calling a spade a spade. He screwed up on this one. Why the argument over it?
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 10, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
it's apparently BBS' world
Not until the last two paragraphs of your post do you avoid using “I” or “me” as the basis for your writing. No, wait, my bad, there was that one “Unbelievable.” entry.
No commentary on how this affects the team. No forecasting which players could step up to challenge for the spot.
it’s all about you. you vs every single person who ever doubted you or dared to disagree with you. but that makes it sound too dramatic. it’s not so much dramatic as it is sad and funny at the same time. and frustrating to watch.
here’s a new profile pic for you:
Grow up?
I think numerous members of this fan base need to grow up and reach a point where they no longer feel threatened when someone criticizes the franchise.
by Cole Farrington on May 7, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
BINGO!!!
Cupie doll for you! You just nailed it!
by the_iowa_hawkeye on May 10, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
GET THE POLIAN!!!
"Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all. "
- Captain Zapp Brannigan
by Marked Hoosier on May 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Always the martyr huh?
The tone of this piece is triumphant in your ability to make judgements about talent, not muted because the Colts family lost a member to injury. It almost sounds like you are excited to prove yourself right even in the face of a season ending injury. I would expect that out of a jackass hit-them-while-they’re-down fan, but from the head of this blog? You’ve sunk to a new low…
by jantz101 on May 7, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Buttttt...
don’t you know? BBS is the bestest, smartest evah!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on May 7, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
GODDAMNIT!
Why does Bill even have that Crystal Ball in his office if he isn’t going to use it?
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on May 7, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
seriously
It’s probably all that slurp that Dakich left on it the last time he visited Polian’s office.
by torontocoltsfan on May 7, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And now it's green.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
Can we maybe wait til we know the full extent of the injury before tooting our own horns too much?
Knee injuries are often freak things. It depends on what it was. An ACL tear on the carpet isn’t really something that can be blamed on Thomas. Some injuries are due to being fragile; others are just bad luck. Bob’s bicep, for instance, was just bad luck piling onto his other injury woes, which are much more predictable given his style of play.
Taking a player who can’t cut it on the field is a bad pick. Taking one who gets hurt is not a bad pick; it’s bad luck.
The fact that the team has had less than perfect luck in the 3rd round is nothing more than coincidence. There’s no other explanation. Does anyone really think that they just lose their minds during a specific part of the draft? He can grade first round talent and 5th through undrafted talent, but sucks in between? That’s ridiculous.
Clearly this pick was a bit of a risk, but he obviously graded out very well by whatever measures they use for selecting Colts DBs. It’s not a huge loss, as he was only supposed to be depth this year anyway, but until we know more about what the injury is and how it happened, let’s hold off on the “Holy crap I’m so smart!” bragging.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
by willyduer on May 7, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Also,
Can we stop calling Keiaho a disappointment? He was a low third rounder that started and contributed for several years. No, he wasn’t a star. But he wasn’t a flop by any means.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
by willyduer on May 7, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
every draft pick is suppose to be a 5+ year starter
forget your silly, ooohh there’s only 22 starting spots and 6-10 draft picks a year, sissy math. We demand performance.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on May 7, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
REC!
"Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all. "
- Captain Zapp Brannigan
by Marked Hoosier on May 7, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
5 year starter?? GUARANTEED HALL OF FAMER, DAMMIT!!!
You and your low standards.
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by E.M.H. on May 7, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you understand, Shake
Joe Montana was a third round pick. Keaiho and Powers were third round picks. Need I say any f%&%$ing thing more??
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
by dmstorm22 on May 7, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So awesome.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
I agree with you 100%....
Since he was drafted to be depth, he has time to heal for however long it may take. We don’t even know the severity of the knee injury, just an assumption that he could be out for the season. Obviously Polian drafted Thomas for a reason that none of us know…that’s why we’re the FANS and he’s the PRESIDENT of the team. So I agree that we should just wait for all the details before anyone starts bragging about how they know more than Polian….
Sail on silvergirl, Sail on by. Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine. If you need a friend I'm sailing right behind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. - Simon and Garfunkel
by leb_03 on May 7, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I absolutely hated this pick
and never expected anything out of it, so this just reaffirms my concerns. He was an underachieving injury prone DB. I’m not disappointed b/c I never expected squat from him.
Good news is that he was far from being a player we needed to rely on. Next man up, and that next man is probably better anyway.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
I'm glad BBS saw this coming
What would we do without his clairvoyance? Oh yeah, make our own assessments based on logic and sound reasoning. I forgot, because it’s so rare around here these days.
Bravo, BBS, but given your recent track record of spouting craziness I’m chalking this one up as a lucky guess. In fact, because I’ve disagreed with you so much lately, when you said you hated the pick I was sure it was going to work out. I guess I’ll have to wait until later this season, or next season to see if it does, because you know, there IS a future. I’m pretty sure this kid’s career isn’t over.
"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"
Come visit The Fantasy Ninjas. We'd love to hear from you.
by LukeNukem on May 7, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
right
So we get news that we lost a high round pick at a position without much depth and the first reaction from the leader of supposed fan blog is, “I was right ha!”.
What. A. Dick.
How about some discussion of how we fill the glaring hole that is our secondary? How about a look at free agent prospects or the udfa we have on the roster at cb? Even a prognosis on various kinds of knee injuries. I’d take crazy speculation about moving bethea to cb and have someone else play safety over this.
This is the straw that broke the camel’s back. I’m done reading articles with BBS on the bye line.
by kasey_junk on May 7, 2010 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 16 recs
Rec’d. I’m with you on this. I keep coming to the site for the community and for the amazing articles like what Jamkel wrote. Note, STILL NOT ON THE FRONT PAGE despite receiving 15 rec’s during a “slow” offseason. Clearly, I would rather read crap about Jamarcus Russell on the colts front page than something well-reserached and interesting.
From now on, I’m not going to waste my time reading anything you write BBS. So, please, don’t take your “page views” as having anything to do with YOUR writing or ignorant ideas.
by sandsnake on May 7, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
heh... dude, that's Freudian!
‘Bye Line’… i’m done… get it? just so you know, it’s ‘byline’, dude.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
Bring back Keiwann Ratliff!!
We need him for depth and I probably misspelled his name but it really rolls off the toungue….
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Same
Sorry Brad. Gonna miss the old you. Oh, by the way, I was listening to Dakich today and he called you the “dumbest human being alive.” Thought that was pretty accurate.
"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"
Come visit The Fantasy Ninjas. We'd love to hear from you.
by LukeNukem on May 7, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wait, really?
"Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all. "
- Captain Zapp Brannigan
by Marked Hoosier on May 7, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No joke
He was talking about somebody else being the dumbest person alive, and then he said “well, maybe except for my man Brad Mills, or Brad Wells, or whatever the hell his name is…”
Right around the end of the show, maybe quarter to 3.
"You're hitting the wrong person. Don't you know you're hitting Ron Artest?"
Come visit The Fantasy Ninjas. We'd love to hear from you.
by LukeNukem on May 7, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
He knows his name!!!
/heh :)
"Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all. "
- Captain Zapp Brannigan
by Marked Hoosier on May 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Dakich really said that?? hahahahahahahaha
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Oh well
at least beating Houston in Week 1 just got easier. Brian Cushing was just suspended for the 1st 4 Games of the Season b/c of testing positive for Steroids.
"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning
by P0RKINS2 on May 7, 2010 7:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That kid has been juicing since high school
it’s a shame, because I’ve always been a huge fan of his trainer (DeFranco). It sucks that this will taint his reputation as one of the best at preparing football players.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
.....
busting third rounders like this hurts
How so? he was going to be regulated to dime and nickel duties anyways. Also the Colts picked up a few pretty good looking UDFA’s who could take over in Thomas’ absence.
Oh and one more thing, PLAYERS ARENT BUSTS AFTER ONE FRIGGIN PRACTICE! To claim that Thomas is a bust after only 3 weeks after he was drafted has to be one of the most ludicrous, absurd statements you can make BBS. His career isnt over, it just begun.
by metal_militia on May 7, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
*relegated
(I think that’s what you intended, correct?)
Anonymity breeds inhumanity. In simpler terms, don't be a troll.
...
For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.
Remember that trolls are cowards; they’ll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that’s what they do!).
Hmmmmmm
Insert Clever Statement Here
by MrNFL on May 7, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Heh
Rec’d
"If you define your personality as creative, it only means you understand what is perceived to be creative by the world at large, so you're really just following a rote creative template. That's the opposite of creativity. Everybody is wrong about everything, just about all the time.
But ANYWAY..."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on May 7, 2010 10:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice!
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi
Believe in Bill
Who cares about injuries – we the Colts!!
Injuries happen and hindsight is a wonderful thing but Big Bad Bill has got more right than wrong and I for one trust him to keep the Colts the best team in the NFL!!
C’mon the Colts!!
We have a QB who almost won a game down 23-0 to the eventual AFC runner up
throwing to Wayne, Ben Utecht, Aaron Moorehead, Craphonso Thorpe, Bryan Fletcher and Kenton Keith. I sh*t you not.
I think the loss of a nickel/dime corner is not the end of the world. Also, Polian is good enough to find UDFA, or some street guy like Keiwan Ratliff from 2008. Hopefully, the neo-Ratliff, or neo-Lacey (from 2009) will not be a starter, but the dime corner.
Also, this could make the “Bullit-zilla package” more used, when we put all three safeties on the field.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
yesssss
go go gadget bullitt-zilla
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Curse of practice
The real curse here is that the Colts suck at practicing and must have a legacy as strength and conditioning coach because it seems they are ALWAYS getting injured during practice and training camp.
My suggestion is jog 2 miles before each practice and stretch for 30 minutes prior to practice. If that doesn’t help then stop practicing altogether.
Done and done.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
I've actually written directly to the Strength & Conditioning coach
about the injuries and to plead with him to have the team stretch more. I also suggested yoga and wrote that there are probably 120-pound housewives who could outlast the players in a heated yoga session.
How can you not love a team that does this?
apparently, word didn't reach #21
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
heated yoga
is no more useful than regular yoga.
They already place a premium on flexibility and mobility. The issue is somewhere else. I’m convinced they just plain aren’t strong enough.
MOOBS.
bbs, i’m ashamed of this.
Polar bear boxers
by Colts Homer on May 7, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
BBS you suck
Whiny ass bitch. How many years the Colts been good and how many guys were hurt.. You’re nothing but a media cunt living off your retarded opinion influencing football idiots who don’t have a clue.
You think this guy was a bad pick because he got hurt? Polian knows what he’s doing you don’t. How about you stop whining and start talking football.
My 5 year old daughter has more sense than you.
This is a shame. You fucktards who take this guy as gospel should get a life. Seriously
by Bleed__n_Blue on May 7, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
hey now
attack the argument, not the arguer.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on May 7, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
though he did use the word cunt, which partially redeems it.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
Really?
You find that redeeming?
"If you define your personality as creative, it only means you understand what is perceived to be creative by the world at large, so you're really just following a rote creative template. That's the opposite of creativity. Everybody is wrong about everything, just about all the time.
But ANYWAY..."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on May 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Absolutely
not when used in place of vagina. Then it’s repulsive.
But in the british way, hell yeah. Totally underused.
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
Ah.
Didn’t think about it that way.
"If you define your personality as creative, it only means you understand what is perceived to be creative by the world at large, so you're really just following a rote creative template. That's the opposite of creativity. Everybody is wrong about everything, just about all the time.
But ANYWAY..."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on May 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha!
Agreed. That word always makes me smile for some odd reason.
That is Bach and it rocks, its a rock block of Bach
by Prince Lawrence Waverly on May 7, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
When the whole article is just BBS telling us how right he is and how wrong we are then there’s nothing to attack but the arguer
if he posted an article about how the injury effected the colts wed talk about the colts but he posted one about how the injury effected his ego so well talk about him
by ColtsUK on May 8, 2010 6:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You, after posting all that bullshit
wanna tell people around here to get a life? Please…
Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on May 7, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
ZING!
"Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all. "
- Captain Zapp Brannigan
by Marked Hoosier on May 7, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You were right. Duly noted.
Thanks for the update!
by shoein on May 7, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
There was an update in all of that?
"If you define your personality as creative, it only means you understand what is perceived to be creative by the world at large, so you're really just following a rote creative template. That's the opposite of creativity. Everybody is wrong about everything, just about all the time.
But ANYWAY..."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on May 7, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Reply fail?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
Someone please point out how it is
that Thomas’ injury was because Polian reached in making him a third-round pick.
Op-ed pieces should be labled as such – not as news.
Imagine
is Matt Millen was making our draft picks.
Whatever, Brandon King’s a lot more likely to make the roster now. Sweet!
And
Ray Fisher! Return game upgrade baby!
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
There's this guy that plays Hockey for the Ottawa Senators
His name is Pascal LeClaire. He’s a goalie. This year he was injured while sitting on the bench twice. Once, a stick hit him, the other, a puck hit him.
After missing a good portion of the year to these injuries, people started calling him ‘injury prone’.
What does one have to do with the other?
Well, I’m glad you asked.
1) Freak injuries happen. We don’t know if the Kevin Thomas injury was freak or not. Generally speaking, when I think of injury prone, I turn my eyes toward people that are on the injury report every week for bumps, bruises, etc… I understand that they happen every year, but in reality, ligament tears are more ‘freak’ than
2) Not only have you never seen Kevin Thomas play, but you’ve seen 0 draftees from the 2010 draft play. So how can you possibly say he is worse than others he could have drafted? How does this validate your position? Last year everyone and their brother (and some of their sisters) wanted Peria Jerry. He got hurt. Did this make them fools for wanting him? He had a freak season ending injury, in the end, he would have probably had as much influence on the Colts season as their actual first round pick did (okay, slight exaggeration, but not by much).
3) It’s real easy to go to wikipedia and look at drafts past and go, ‘omg with our 4th round pick we could have gotten xxxx player that ended up being a pro bowler!’ There is a reason that people are paid a lot of millions of dollars to bat 300 in the draft, its not an exact science.
4) I had a thought here but then I started thinking about butter. Hmm. What was my thought. Oh. Something about it being really lame (I think I had a smarter sounding word before the butter thought) that the first thing you think about when some rookie hurts his knee before ever playing a game is, ‘LOOK, THIS MAKES ME RIGHT, SEE!!??’ Didn’t Bob Sanders sit out most of his rookie year injured? Does that make that pick a bust?
5) Maybe you could answer this, because you know more about football than me, but how many 3rd round picks are expected to make a huge, immediate impact on a random NFL team? And then extrapolate that out to how many 3rd round picks are expected to make a huge, immediate impact on one of the two best teams in the NFL? The Colts FIRST round draft pick was for depth, what, exactly, do you think their 3rd round pick is for (don’t give me the obvious, and correct, answer of “pleasing the fans”)
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
by SpazMo on May 8, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 14 recs
Yay
This site is a better place when you are here. It’s almost like having a brother in awesomeness.
It’s too bad you’re Canadian…
Day-after draft grades are probably even dumber than mock drafts.
I was reading a Cat in the Hat book to my kids tonight
and you had to read the alphabet (A to Z) and in Canada they say Z as Zed, but me, being American, say Z… so I was reading, and I said, “Zee”, so i was reading, and I read Z, and my oldest son goes, ’No, Daddy, we say it zed." “Who is we?” I ask him.
“You know, Daddy, me, mommy, my brother, Canadians…”
Geeze, I’m a man without a country.
The story of me
(Warning, perhaps NSFW audio, unless you work in a pharmacy(No Cussing, just a description of me that you may not want your boss to hear))
Awww...
that’s sooo cute!!
Sail on silvergirl, Sail on by. Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine. If you need a friend I'm sailing right behind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. - Simon and Garfunkel
/slow head shake
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
Well said my friend!
Sail on silvergirl, Sail on by. Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine. If you need a friend I'm sailing right behind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. Like a bridge over troubled water I will ease your mind. - Simon and Garfunkel
Well said.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
there is at least a silver lining...
if it werent for BBS’ ‘antics’ I wouldnt have all these wonderfully creative, humorous insults and rebuttals to read in the comments.
in cases like this i generally just skip the article and head straight to the comments – makes for a good time and i don’t even have to feel myself getting stupider for reading such ridiculousness!
I suppose
its like watching a really awful film with some friends
by ColtsUK on May 8, 2010 6:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra
I highly recommend this movie for exactly that reason. It’s a great spoof on bad sci-fi. Lost Skeleton at IMDB
Ranger Brad: Well again I didn’t mean to throw a damper. Believe me that’s the last thing I’d like to throw. I don’t want to throw anything at all really. But when folks are horribly mutilated, I feel it’s my job to tell others. We take our horrible mutilations seriously up in these parts.
Betty Armstrong: I’m sure you do. Honey, the Ranger’s just doing his job.
Dr. Paul Armstrong: Of course he is. I’m sorry Ranger Brad. I guess all this talk of horrible mutilation has me on edge.
Ranger Brad: That’s all right Dr. Armstrong. This horrible mutilation has a whole lot of people on a whole lot of edges.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
Why are we all talking about BBS?
And not our solutions for corner depth? Who the next breakout UDFA will be? Whether Ray Fisher will work out as a dime corner?
For a bunch of people accusing BBS of being self-obsessed, you’re doing a pretty good job of being obsessed with him too.
because the original Article
isn’t about our solutions for corner or udfa. the whole article is just an arrogant son of a bitch who made a lucky guess and thinks that’s more important then cb depth it udfas or any of that
by ColtsUK on May 8, 2010 6:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Colts rookie DB Thomas injures knee, might sit out season
I wrote this on 27/4/2010 (http://www.stampedeblue.com/2010/4/27/1446945/ok-now-its-your-turn-grade-the#36135155
In the third Kevin Thomas is he not injury prone, after last year and all the injuries I was suprised we took him. I would have took Akwasi Owusu-Ansai or Everson Griffen).
So no suprise, Thomas being injured, bad pick dont understand why pick an injury prone player ??? I think Akwasi Owusu-Ansai and Everson Griffen will be both better players in the NFL and Polian should have selected one of these.
BigBlueShoe IS RIGHT
ok Mr bigshot doctor
who knows exactly who’s gonna be better players in the NFL
Please explain to some of us clearly not as smart as you what his previous injuries have to do with this one
by ColtsUK on May 8, 2010 6:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Everone can have an opinion..
Some people are just injury prone and unlucky Mr ColtsUk like Roy Hall. I think the Colts would have been better staying clear, so I have said nothing wrong. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and we shall see what happens. I think Ansai will do better, if you dont well no big deal.
Question
Obviously, he hasn’t signed a contract… how does he get paid? Can he just be cut?
I'm no expert, so don't be surprised if someone corrects me,
but i believe all players on the roster are ‘under contract’. Those drafted get some form of guaranteed money, so he’ll be kept… paid for rehabing, basically, while we add another man to the roster to fill his spot.
As an aside and if i’m not mistaken, payments to players on IR don’t count toward the salary cap. Of course, there isn’t a cap this year anyway.
Careful what you wish for... a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take everything you have.
I doubt there will ever be one again.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
He will get a contract
Irsay is a classy guy, he even paid Lilja a big sum, he didn’t have to.
Also, last year, there were many players who suffered season ending injuries before the season, and all got their contracts. A NE OLB, a NO MLB, a SD WR comes to mind.
I think there's something in the CBA about it
or else no unsigned picks would show up to minicamps
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
by shake n bake on May 8, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
good atricle
I thought this was a very good article. it really makes you wonder why so many third rounders dont work out for the horse. It seems like its different every year but none the less the pick doesnt work out. I know this was a freak accident but what are the odds its another 3rd rounder. Polian is great with the 1st round selections and the very late and rookie free agents and for some reason he always nails the 4th rounds too for some reason so even though his 3rd rounders are always busts…his 1st 4th 6th 7th and rookie free agents more than make up for it
No. That's worse
because BBS still has a shot of being right. King will never be. Sean Taylor was the next Ed Reed.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
but if we use BBS logic
King was right, Taylor was an awful draft pick cause he’s no longer alive. Terrible selection.
insert signature here
Article seems a little gloaty...
There’s a word for this: Schadenfreude. It means deriving pleasure from the misfortune of others. BBS turns this into a huge “I told ya so!” against Polian. Could be appropriate if he had ever said that Thomas wouldn’t work out because of injuries. I don’t recall that, though. I’ve had times when I could have gloated, like when I stated that I’d never draft Charles Brown, and then Polian passed him up twice. But, BBS, you can’t gloat over an injury to Thomas when all you said was that he was a bad pick and that better selections were available. Even if you mentioned his injury past at some point in time, I’d hope you’d see this a an unfortunate (and certainly not disastrous) event. BTW, I kind of though King and/or Turner would beat him out anyway. (This is a great group of CFA DBs).
Schadenfreude?
Is that anything like Schlampe ficken?
Anonymity breeds inhumanity. In simpler terms, don't be a troll.
Hmmmmmmmm…
I don’t think too many people liked this article.
There's a new blog in town, the 12th HorseMan.
What was your first clue?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Finals suck.
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