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So, do you still want the Colts to try and trade for Chargers left tackle Marcus McNeill?

While I know many of you are a tad annoyed with Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis acting like stereotypes of modern, greedy athletes, I can give you at least one small ray of sunshine: At least the situation is not on par with what San Diego is doing to Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill.

If you haven't been following the news out of San Diego, here is a brief synopsis from PFT:

San Diego Chargers restricted free agents Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill are reportedly making financial preparations not only to sit out for the first 10 weeks of the 2010 season, but also to sit through all of 2011 without getting paid if the owners lock out the players.

Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports that Jackson and McNeill have made financial preparations in case a lockout wipes out the 2011 season.

Jackson and McNeill both declined to sign their one-year tender offers before midnight last night, which means both will have those offers reduced from more than $3 million to about $600,000. But if they both play only six weeks (which is the minimum needed to earn an accrued season toward unrestricted free agency), Jackson will make $206,000 and McNeill $212,000 in 2010.

One year tenders for players that are the caliber of Jackson and (especially) McNeill is insulting. McNeill is a top five left tackle in this game. He protects the blindside of the franchise player, Philip Rivers. He's a helluva lot better than the 49ers Joe Staley, and he just got a $42 million dollar deal last year.

It's pretty obvious the Chargers are working on the cheap. The Colts went through a similar situation to this with Antoine Bethea, but managed to get something done last week. Meanwhile, the Chargers and their odious owner, Dean Spanos, seem to not give a crap about locking up two very essential players.

Earlier this off-season, a San Deigo radio station floated out a rumor that the Colts were looking to trade for Marcus McNeill pre-NFL Draft. With the situation between McNeill and the Chargers deteriorating the way it has, maybe there was some truth to that rumor. Perhaps Bill Polian called his old buddy from their days with the Buffalo Bills, Chargers GM A.J. Smith, and proposed a few trade scenarios that would take McNeill off their hands. In exchange, the Chargers would get some kind of compensation.

Obviously, the deal did not happen, and the Chargers are stuck with a left tackle who might not play for them in 2010. Things have gotten so serious that the Bolts just signed left tackle Tra Thomas to a one-year deal.

From our point of view, this situation only helps the Colts. The Chargers will not win much in 2010 without Jackson or McNeill. They are also without Jamal Williams, Antonio Cromartie, and LaDainian Tomlinson. Oh, and sans the steroids, Shawne Merriman is an ordinary player.

With the Colts unwilling to give new deals to Reggie and Robert, it is very doubtful the team brass would swing a big trade for a player like McNeill and then sign him to a big extension. However, anything that hurts the Chargers helps the Colts, and right now it seems the Bolts are a shell of the team they once were.

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The Logan Mankins situation is also interesting

I can’t believe he turned down the deal he did

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Great news

“One year tenders for players that are the caliber of Jackson” – He might be good, but he faces suspension, had only 198 catches and 25 TDs in 5 years and he got reasonable money for his production.

Did Merriman sign his tender? His production declined after coming off steroids and he was injured then, he doesn’t deserve a big contract.

by Ty46 on Jun 15, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

This.

Jackson has been a handful off the field to say the least.

In addition to that, AJ Smith is exactly the type of GM I’m grateful we don’t have.

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by peytonsthebest on Jun 15, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got it there... no AJ Smith for the Colts.... whew....

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by Manning4ever on Jun 15, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

McNeill is not top 5

Ryan Clady
Joe Thomas
Jake Long
D’Brickashaw Ferguson
Jared Gaither

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by Colts Homer on Jun 15, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Gaither might lose his job to Michael Oher. Long is good, but I don’t think you can call him top 5 yet.

I would be comfortable with McNeill in the top 5.

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by MonkeyBusiness on Jun 15, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long is first team All-Pro

He’s #2 behind Thomas.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 15, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gaither is being replaced because the Ravens don't want to meet his contract demands

and think his attitude (which may or may not be contract related) sucks.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jun 15, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its hard to judge LT with the crappy coverage there given on tv

So I wouldn’t argue specifics like that.

You can watch every regular season pass of every nfl quaterback, but your going to struggle to get a good view of every tackles play.

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by ColtsUK on Jun 15, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

McNeill

Wouldn’t he have to be under contract in order for a team to trade for him?

by hoosierstudent on Jun 15, 2010 1:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

yes.

Dun nuh nuh nuhhhh!!!! Super Mathis

by hoosier in sodak on Jun 15, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

BBS, you have a small error in your article

Losing Tomlinson as he currently is probably improves the Chargers. You foolishly suggest the loss diminishes the team.

Cheers! ;-)

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by Bobman on Jun 15, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Call me crazy but

Im a fan of Charlie Johnson and if Ugoh improves and beats him out then all the better but I think Charlie Johnson does a very good job and doesnt make too many mistakes especially for going up against the best DE’s in the league plus he is a good guy.

by supercolts on Jun 15, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh

McNeil’s a decent pass blocker, but he’s a poor run blocker and he takes too many penalties.

OK, he’s still better than Johnson and Ugoh but really, we should be thinking about better guys than this.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 17, 2010 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

McNeil’s a decent pass blocker…

That’s Job One.

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jun 17, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chargers fan, following closely, reporting.

If I were AJ, my priorities would be as follows:

1) Gates is first. They want to reward him for playing ball. But they also don’t want to give him a big extension unless they know about the state of his foot. So that deal will wait until training camp.

2) Merriman can wait as long as he wants, but he needs to play football this year, and he’ll make exactly the same amount no matter what he does. The Chargers will try to get him to sign about the start of TC, either right before or right after Gates.

3) McNeill is very good at what really counts. I don’t know if the Chargers originally planned to pay him, but I think they should. No matter what the next contract situation, the $7M/year will save a high draft pick that could be used to shore up the defense or replace VJ. Still, he has to wait for Gates. He may or may not start Week 1; I think AJ relishes Russian Roulette, but I’m optimistic that this is all Kabuki.

4) VJ doesn’t have nearly as much leverage as he thinks he does. Elite WRs are a nice-to-have; Colts fans of all people understand that QB+OL=offense. VJ should have signed his tender; as is, he should hold out only long enough to see if he can squeeze a few more hundred thou out of them (not likely, but his best remaining hope). If he sits out the year and there’s a lockout, he’s in serious career jeopardy. He could totally play this season and cash in next year, but this will cost him millions without hurting the team much.

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by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Jun 17, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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