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Colts sign another kicker, waive Brandon Renkart, and Roy Hall lands on IR for the fourth straight year

During OTAs and training camp, the Colts will typically bring in a few kickers to take the load off Adam Vinatieri, who is 37-years-old and recovering from numerous injuries last season. Today, the Colts were awarded former-Falcons kicker Garrett Lindholm off waivers.

To make room for Lindholm, the Colts waived little used linebacker Brandon Renkart.

Lindholm was a collegiate free agent signed by the Falcons after the NFL Draft who played his college ball at Tarleton State University. I have absolutely no idea where that school is located, let alone the conference.

There are some pretty decent YouTube videos showing off Lindholm's talents as a kick-off specialist and field goal kicker.

While in college, Lindholm made a 64-yard field goal. I'll go out on the limb and say the kid has a bit more leg power than Matt Stover.

In other news, former-Colts wideout Roy Hall, who was signed by the Saints a few weeks ago, has landed on injured reserve for the fourth time in four years.

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YES!!!!!

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by Colts Homer on Jun 17, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Wonder what yard line he was kicking those FGs from.

He shanked 2 so far wide right, even though he had the distance. And I couldn’t really tell if he was on the 30, 40, 50, or what (still watching as I type this). If he was kicking close in, then he’s not accurate. But if he was far out, then at least he’s got the leg, and maybe gives a better chance than a potentially injured Vinateri, and definitely a better chance than an otherwise very likeable and acceptible Matt Stover.

Can anyone else tell?

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by E.M.H. on Jun 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh. I'm seeing the midfield logo now

So earlier kicks he was closer in. But I still can’t tell exactly where he was at. 30 yard line for the first ones, maybe??

If they’re saying what the distance is verbally, I don’t have a pair of functional headphones where I’m at right now, and I can’t play it out loud, so I can’t hear what’s being said.

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by E.M.H. on Jun 17, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy Hall is on IR **again**??

OMG… that’s it. I’m afraid that’s the end of the poor guy’s career. Unless something amazing happens after he comes back from IR next year (because by the rules he can’t be cut this upcoming season), I don’t think he’s going to see another minute of playing time in the NFL ever again.

Here’s to hoping he has an amazing training camp in ‘11 and makes the Saint’s roster.

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by E.M.H. on Jun 17, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Poor guy

I really feel for him

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 17, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally.

I mean, he’s got to know what the knock is on his durability now. It’s got to be terrible to realize you’re injured and full well know that other teams can see that you’ve spent more time than anyone else in the training room than on the practice and playing fields. I’d imagine he’s feeling like his body’s letting him down; that’s how I’d feel in his place.

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by E.M.H. on Jun 17, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

64 yard kick

To send a playoff game into overtime.

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-Bender

by Colts Homer on Jun 17, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure but believe could be better, but that was his best, many were under 4 sec

He did at least always get to the 6 , ussually the 2 and some 2 yards deep into endzone, He was also told where to kick and did where told, finally, he got 1 3 tards in endzone on a corner kickoff.

As I note below we dont when this was taken, he was trying out with others and may have gotten better and more accurate on FG, Some wide short, others down the center from for a 49 yarder, but all told I didnt take a % of FG but missed many both short and long , though made more than missed.

If this is old and hes better could be good,

Think our current kickoff man is just fine and should improve in year 2 and developed better hang time ( I THINK )

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man did I typo that , see my signature, sorry

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

At start its noted he has an agent

If I am right that means probably done after college season or cant have an agent

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misses?

Maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention but didn’t he miss a ton of the kicks? Or was this just about leg strength?

by buymymonkey on Jun 17, 2010 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Those were kickoffs, not field goals.

I would think the tee and the running start would have been a clue.

by slash196 on Jun 17, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Later in the video, he was doing field goals

Had a holder and everything. The coach was even signaling ‘touchdown’ or ‘wide-right’.

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by E.M.H. on Jun 17, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY DID I WRITE 'TOUCHDOWN'???


Duuuuuuuuuh… I meant “good field goal”!

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by E.M.H. on Jun 17, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always like new kickers getting looked at

And Roy Hall is still worthless I see.

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by MrNFL on Jun 17, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

I cant beleive I just spent 7 minutes watching a guy kick a football.

by DFreeney on Jun 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Made more than mised

but missed some 32 yarders, the closet test, and back to a49 yard FG where again made more than missed but not great %. But who knows when at college this was done and man he was out there with others trying out all day, it was light doing kickoffs and then got dark,

Hang time on kickoffs was just under 4 to 4.2 I belive, u need something over 4 I am pretty sure and dont think 4.2 is great, however all kickoss , well the shortest landed at the 6 and many were in the endzone 2 yards , even one going to the corner as he was directed where to kick

Since this, and again who knows when done he may have gotten better

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

At start its noted he has an agent

If I am right that means probably done after colledge season or cant have an agent

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kicker

Special teams wins ball games. I was impressed. Hard to tell though, until the games on the line and you’ve got bodies flying in from all over.

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by edictben1 on Jun 17, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, i believe STs winning games is a fallacy

Seems to me, i recall an article on this site 6-12 months ago about the value of good special teams play, and the delta on winning percentage was marginal at best.

At least, that’s what i remember.

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by teej813 on Jun 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's more than you'd think

Field position is a big part of the game. Plus, Mike Scifres almost singlehandedly beat the Colts not too long ago.

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by MrNFL on Jun 17, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If thats the Chargers Punter in that payoff game

He sure played apart, but we should have got that last 1st down and then run the clock out afterward. Eeerily simialar to our last series in first half of SB 44. We MUST improve our OL and Running Yards per play and get those short ones. I think Brody E may suprise us all and help the OL as Polian is hoping. . From whats said he’s really athetic with better hands than anyone thought

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

As i recall, that was the point of the article...

It basically pointed out that at first glance, ST play (read return yds) seems like it would play a big part in win/loss percentage. But once you look at the figures, it’s not true. While there was a slight improvement, it was much less than expected.

Not trying to argue with you; just briefly re-stating what was nicely explained awhile back and supported with stats.

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by teej813 on Jun 17, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dont think I got to read that article but agree

ST sure helps, but theres alot more to winning or they’d make the big bucks, Thanks

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by bayone on Jun 17, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know FO weights STs at 1/7th of a teams rating

though I’m guessing your thinking of something mgrex did with the winning stats series.

Another bit of FO insight is why I’m very excited about Lindholm. For kickers that are able to hold an NFL job, FG% is very inconsistent year to year. So much so that I’m comfortable with the conclusion that the skill difference in accuracy between NFL caliber kickers is negligible for the sample sizes you get in an NFL season.

However what does stay quite consistent is KO distance and range.

This doesn’t mean you can grab the strongest legged person you can find and you’ll have an All-Pro kicker. There is quite a lot of skill involved in FG accuracy, but the accuracy difference between the best and 20th-25th (maybe even worse) kicker in the league is pretty much totally washed out by random chance in the 20-40 attempts you get in a season.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jun 17, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So 14%. Yeah, that sounds about what i remember, so you're probably right.

Seems like one of the conclusions the study supported was ‘Spend your money where it makes the most difference’. For example, the Colts seem to prioritize:

  1. Offense
  2. Defense (the delta between #1 and #2 has shrunk the last few years)
  3. Backups for the offense and the defense
  4. Special Teams players

The fact that they’ve won so consistently supports the conclusion pretty well.

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by teej813 on Jun 17, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lindholm knows about games being on the line

Hitting a 64 yarder to send a playoff game into overtime. Ice water in his veins.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 17, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm... that's encouraging

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by teej813 on Jun 17, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tarleton State

Is in Stephenville, Texas – which is also home of Kevin Kolb and Jevan Snead. My company’s customer service team is based there. Bunch of loser Cowboy fans…

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