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Bengals dump Keiwan Ratliff; will Colts sign him?

For the second time in his career, veteran corner Keiwan Ratliff has been dumped by the Cincinnati Bengals. In between the first time and the second time he was cut by the Bengals, Ratliff spent two pretty productive years with the Colts. His 2008 season was probably the most productive of his career. He logged four starts, 22 tackles, an INT for a touchdown, and one fumble recovery that season.

With the Colts secondary lacking depth (Jacob Lacey is the only veteran non-starter, and he's in his second year), picking Ratliff up off waivers might not be a bad move. If the Colts cornerback health issues continue to trend as they have the last few years, the Colts are in big trouble. Kelvin Hayden has only started 18 games the last two seasons, and Jerraud Powers missed four games last year with hamstring and foot injuries. He played hurt in the Super Bowl.

This means if Powers and Hayden get hurt during the 2010 season (and they likely will), the Colts will be forced to work with a second-year player (Lacey) and a bunch of rookies.

Not good.

Finding valuable, veteran depth at corner should be a big priority for the Colts heading into the regular season. Unless he's hurt, claiming Ratliff would improve this secondary.

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Personally i would say yes....

my memory tells me Keiwan played well, not steller, for the Colts …. particularly the game vs Steelers in 08 and maybe that is why the Steelers picked him after the season.

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by Manning4ever on Jun 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I almost posted something like this

Would the Colts have to wait until July 22 to pick him up? (i.e., is Ratliff considered an unrestricted free agent right now?)

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Once realeased u arent considered anything and can be picked up by top 8 teams and dont have to wait till after July 22

At Least I belive thats the case, in fact didnt we pick up someone else released but cant think of name maybe a lineman or that new kicker, pretty sure someone

I say do it , and if someone after July 22 even is better, we neede the depth

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kicker was off waivers not sure the difference

But pretty sure a released player we can pick up

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

we picked up QB Brandstander, right?

ok i didnt check the spelling….

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by Manning4ever on Jun 18, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

also was signed off waivers, again that may be same as released

Need to find original article

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe was Andy Alleman or Terry

Anyway looking at Colts roster we did sign alot of Free Agents after being waived

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Wikipedia
According to the collective bargaining agreement, if any waiver of a veteran player who has completed the season that gives him four years of service occurs between February 1st and the trading deadline in mid October, then that player shall be considered an unrestricted free agent by termination of his contract.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 18, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

due to the uncapped season, is the 4 becoming a 6?

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by Manning4ever on Jun 18, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that I'm not sure of

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 18, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly hope so.

I really liked him – he made some big plays when it counted. I was kind of bummed when they released him.

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by peytonsthebest on Jun 18, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

me too...

was he really released by the Colts?? he was only signed for one year kinda mid-season and then right after the season ends, he was picked up by the Steelers…. he seems to be one of those guys who play well for the Colts and the Colts only. dont know why? I am counting him making more big plays if he is re-signed.

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by Manning4ever on Jun 18, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

FROM THESE 3 Headlines / stories itvseems waived = rtelaesed = cut & we can sign as have done so already

Brandstater was acquired off waivers by the Colts yesterday after the team that drafted him in 2008, the Denver Broncos, dumped him.
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Bengals dump Keiwan Ratliff, four others

Posted by Mike Florio on June 18, 2010 10:19 AM ET
The Cincinnati Bengals have announced that they’ve parted ways with several players.

Gone is veteran cornerback Keiwan Ratliff, who entered the league as a second-round draft pick of the Bengals in 2004. After four years in Cincy, he spent one in Tampa, two in Indy, and one in Pittsburgh.

The Bengals waived safety Bryan Evans, running back Walter Mendenhall, punter Jake Richardson, and cornerback DeAngelo Willingham. Mendenhall is the younger brother of Steelers starting running back Rashard Mendenhall.
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Last updated: Fri, June 18, 2010, 11:54 EDT CBS DAILY TRANSACTIONS
Friday, June 18, 2010
Team Player Transaction
Cincinnati Bengals Keiwan Ratliff cut
Cincinnati Bengals Walter Mendenhall cut

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

so i guess he is "waived" also??

and can be claimed off waivers? well, it kinda just depends on whether BP thinks he should be re-signed…. why was he not with the colts after the 08 season? Was he “cut” or “waived” by the Colts?? Or, simply get picked up after his 1-yr contract with the Colts was up?

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by Manning4ever on Jun 18, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that we can pick him up now.

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by Cassieper on Jun 20, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This isn't a terrible idea at all, given the actual need there.

I’m liking it so far, but if anyone sees a drawback, sound off. I don’t want to be all rah rah about this without full knowledge of the good and bad about the idea.

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by E.M.H. on Jun 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

as long as they don't have him returning punts again, I'm all for it.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jun 18, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Oy! I Forgot about that!

Yes, keep him away from special teams! Please!

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by E.M.H. on Jun 18, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't hurt, but I don't think they sign him.

They will give one of the UDFA’s a chance to earn that roster spot. If there are injuries during or around camp, then he might be signed, if he is available.

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Jun 18, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

one other thing

I don’t think he is athletic enough or fast enough to play the amount of man to man coverage that they are asking the CB’s to play now.

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Jun 18, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe true, but we need to get some depth

Unless Colt Staff know something we ghavent seen in undrafted free agents or have eye on someone later after July 22, but how much couldhe cost on a 1 year contract even if we dont keep him on 53 man team

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right, the Colts do need some depth at CB

I just don’t see them signing Ratliff because he mostly a zone CB. The coaches absolutley know somethings we don’t, if none of the UDFA’s work out then they will sign some one that can play man to man and zone, I just don’t think it will be Keiwan.

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by BetterD on Jun 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess my point was

Yes you are right we now look for more speed and better man to man CBs , I just thought if he costs nothing to sign as been dumped around already, take him for 1 year even if we cut him there is no cap that matters for the litle we sign him., maybe we can even make an intial signing for real cheap with clause that if he makes roster its upped somewhat

But if we cant find anyone else out there for whatever reason we at least have something better than nothing for ER purposes

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by bayone on Jun 18, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, please

the guy played pretty solid for us in the past. Why not take another shot on him.

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by coltsfan723 on Jun 18, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I liked him here in Cincy - as a backup

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by JUNGLEJOHN on Jun 18, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, he wouldn't enter the season as anything above a dimeback

though the 3 guys ahead of him were all banged up last year, so it wouldn’t be a shock to see the 4th CB playing a fair amount of nickel and maybe even getting a spot start or two.

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by shake n bake on Jun 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll just point out that in the 2009 Pats game...

perhaps the most important regular season game that year, Silva started as part of the dime.

yeah, some more depth would be good.

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by teej813 on Jun 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgive the obvious comment...

But I would guess, of course! I really wonder what the Colts staff think of him. He seemed he was signed as a “best-available” insurance type of player, was called on for extended duty, and basically outperformed all expectations. Would anybody care to compare Ratliff and Lacey? Unless the Colts plan on other players being available after training camp cuts, etc….

by taipei_coltsfan on Jun 18, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

...clarification

I meant to write, “of course they should consider” signing him. The question was, “will they.” I’d like to change my answer to, “probably not.”

by taipei_coltsfan on Jun 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just dont understand... do u know "IF" he was released by the COLTS after 2008...

OR, the Steelers just had an offer better than what Colts would have offered? It seems to me he was signed by the Steelers pretty much shortly after the end of the 2008 season… anybody??

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by Manning4ever on Jun 19, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was not re-signed by the Colts after '08.

He had a 1 year contract…this after being signed and released 2-3 times before during the offseason…and the Colts didn’t re-sign him. Steelers signed him right away.

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by peytonsthebest on Jun 20, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks PTB!

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