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Ugh! Reggie Wayne might want a new contract as well

And thus, PhilB of the Indianapolis Star provides us with another example of why a salary cap and a Collective Bargaining Agreement is very much necessary:

Don't know if Wayne is here or what, although his name has been in the news lately because a former girlfriend allegedly rang up $93,000 in credit/debit card charges. The woman says Wayne knew about it. Wayne says differently. What's curious about Wayne and Mathis, though, is that both Pro Bowl players might be looking for a new contract. We've reported Mathis wants one. That Wayne might want one, too, is speculation at this stage, but I won't be surprised. Hate to say it because I know both players have a lot of fans, but I'm not a fan of this power play.

So, if Phil's speculation is to be believed, that is now three Colts Pro Bowlers looking for new contracts. Wayne isn't getting one. He can hold out all he wants, but the guy is making $5.47 million in 2010 and $5.95 million in 2011, according to PFT.

Now, like Robert Mathis and Antoine Bethea, who both want new deals with the Colts, if Reggie sees a player in his same class (aka, Randy Moss) go out and make a mint with a new contract, he can make a claim that he should get a similar raise. Again, there is no salary cap. So, in theory, nothing should hold a team back from paying such a player whatever he wants. The old excuse of "We can't overpay because of the cap" is now gone, and players seem to be pushing back a bit against teams like the Colts, who likely made a mint during their run to the Super Bowl in 2009.

And yes, Reggie Wayne is most certainly in the same category as Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, and other "super star" receivers in this league. Since 2006, Reggie has 372 catches for 5229 yards and 35 touchdowns. Not very many people in this league have stats like that over a four year period as a #1 receiver. In addition, Reggie has a ring and, unlike Randy Moss, Reggie does not have a reputation for disappearing in big games. In the playoffs since 2006, Wayne has 45 catches for 585 yards and 5 TDs.

Since 2006, Randy Moss has 12 catches for 142 yards and one TD in the post-season.

Reggie also plays hurt in big games, like Super Bowl 44:

Wayne played hurt in the Super Bowl, but he wasn't himself and that contributed to the loss -- that pick six at the end will stand out a long time. That was on Wayne as much if not more than Peyton Manning.

Indeed, Reggie is probably more to blame for the INT, but I personally do not fault either him or Peyton for the Super Bowl 44 loss. Had the Colts offense been successful on that drive and scored a TD with an extra point, they would have simply tied the game. Prior to that drive, the Colts defense had surrendered 18 second half points, allowing Drew Brees (32-39 for the game) to dink and dunk them to death. I'm not going to kill Peyton and Reggie for that INT. If the Colt had scored on that drive, what was to stop the Saints from getting the ball back and scoring again? Certainly not the Colts defense.

Back to Reggie, this potential power play move to get a new contract might have something to do with Randy Moss dumping his longtime agent. Moss himself might be looking to get a new contract as well.

Ugh. All this money talk is making me sick. But, power plays for more money are part of the current NFL labor climate.

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I agree the holding out for more money is getting ridiculous....

That said I give you hope….

Bethea…. We have a healthy Bob (for now)
Mathis…. We’ve got a healthy Freeney (and a stud college DE)
Wayne…. We’ve got 3 guys with a ton of potential (may not be able to play #1), but are solid as hell and we’ve also got atleast 2 very nice potentially good developmental prospects.

Push comes to shove, if they continued to hold out we wouldn’t exactly be screwed, but by no means would we want to have these guys forcing us into a corner either. Hopefully things can be resolved amicably.

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by Jamkel on Jun 2, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Pay Bethea

and let Mathis and Wayne wait their turn.

by tenyardfight on Jun 2, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This

Especially Reggie.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 2, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Jun 2, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie and Mathis can take a seat. They got paid. Reggie is a 1st round pick that lived up to his spot and got his payday. Mathis is an above average DE that got his payday.

Bethea comes from a school that no longer has a football program. Pay the man. We need him, Bullitt, and Bob, because we never know when one of them will be out for an extended period of time.

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by MonkeyBusiness on Jun 2, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

"Bethea comes from a school that no longer has a football program."

Also the only school in the nation named after a talking anthropomorphised duck.

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by linkish on Jun 2, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

TAA-DAAAH!!!

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by linkish on Jun 3, 2010 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys actually believe this

There is absolutely nothing indicating, that Reggie asked for more money.

by Ty46 on Jun 2, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed

Reggie always stays away until required. My money is on him showing up with another work truck and hard hat on the first day of required camp.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 2, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope you didn't put much money on that :-(

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by Cassieper on Jun 5, 2010 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

+87

Rampant specuation based on nothing to do with reality. Reggie has always worked out in Florida. His absence from voluntary mini-camp is not a surprise or an indication of his unhappiness.

by invisibulman on Jun 2, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like to believe anything

until it’s actual news. However, Phil B. being the one reporting it lends it some creditability for me.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Jun 2, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not really reporting anything

he wouldn’t be surprised that Wayne wants money. But has no reason to believe outside of it seems like the time to demand money would be now.

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by JustAJ on Jun 2, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

There really needs to be more emphasis placed on the speculative nature of Phil’s piece. Phil was guessing what Reggie would want; whether that was based merely on Phil’s impressions or on actual statements from Reggie is not known at this time.

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by E.M.H. on Jun 2, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I thought about using

the word “reporting” after I posted. It’s all speculation, even on Phil B’s part.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 2, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pssst...

What are you doing in here? The sane people moved on a long time ago.

by LukeM on Jun 2, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi Colt world! Even though I’m a Cowboys fan I do enjoy watching your team play. Wayne literally played high school football next door. This is the first I’ve heard of a supposed desire for a new contract. the last thing I heard was he agreed to re-structure his deal. Wayne draws an incredible amount of coverage and brings headaches for all teams, heck I’m already thinking about that game we’ll have. Now, I know he’s in this credit card thing, but hopefully it will all work itself out. He’ll still give you high end production like he always has. Society puts alot of the blame on the athlete, but the woman shares it too. If it’s true, she is just as guilty because she knew he had a wife and could’ve walked away. She was looking for her pay day because she didn’t want to work for it. Any common sense female could look at Wayne and tell he wasn’t available. She’s no sob case and will get no brownie points with me even if it is true. I consider her to be a home wrecker. Mrs. Wayne can deal with Reggie herself. Congrats on hosting the super bowl and your stadium is beautiful! We’ll both host events for years to come!

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by Loveforjoy! on Jun 2, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Pay him.

They should agree to a new contract, but only if Reggie lets them use his debit card.

by beckmania on Jun 2, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi

I’m a 32 year old receiver, about the same age as the last WR you signed to a big extension and who never did anything after that contract. You might recognize me as my stats got worse and worse at the end of the year and culminated in me fucking up a route that helped cost us the Super Bowl. Also realize that we are stacked at wide receiver behind me. I’ll have one big ass contract, please!

That’s not going to work. Reggie is more of a trade piece than a contract extension candidate.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 2, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Well well well

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by LV Steelers Fan on Jun 2, 2010 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Well well well

Nothing has been verified, genius.

"Comets, the icebergs of the sky. By jackknifing off one after another at breakneck speed, we can create a gravity boost, or something."
-Zapp Brannigan

by Colts Homer on Jun 2, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

People might be upset because

Of all the talk of making Manning the highest paid player? Doing so would have to put a hurt on everyone elses paycheck

by ushoe on Jun 2, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

without Manning, the COLTS will never have a chance to win more SBs.... at least in the

next few years…. What people will be upset? the Communists? I don’t say it lightly since it seems our great country is going down the jealous of the rich paths….. btw, I am poor …. but i know how jealousy of the people can lead to….

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by Manning4ever on Jun 3, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Melvin?

If anyone needs a pay raise it’s him. Bullit has filled in for Sanders and done a fine job, then when Sanders decides he’s healthy and comes back for half a game and gets hurt again Bullit is pushed to special teams again. Thank you NFL for ruining the best spor in America! You see players true colors when they know they can get more money and nothing is holding them back!

by gteare28 on Jun 3, 2010 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

totally agree on Bullit.....

plus he’s got a GREAT name! :) He seems like a very nice good and driven guy… a very valuable COLT….

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by Manning4ever on Jun 3, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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