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Raheem Brock unlikely to rejoin Colts

Over the weekend, Raheem Brock Tweeted this to his loyal fanbase on Twitter:

Me back in indy? Anythings possible!

Certainly, anything is indeed possible. However, the only way you are going to see the Colts make an offer to Raheem Brock is if something happens to Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, or rookie first-rounder Jerry Hughes. Much like Josh Thomas was for this team the last few years, Brock is more of a utility player for emergencies rather than a full-time starter.

I say this as BIG Raheem Brock fan. He has always consistently been one of the most under-appreciated Colts during the Dungy-Caldwell regime. Remember, Brock was the starting defensive tackle in 2006 when the team won the Super Bowl. He filled so many rolls for this team that the Colts are looking to replace him with potentially three different players!

Jerry Hughes (drafted, first round), Ricardo Mathews (drafted, seventh round), and Mitch King (undrafted, free agent) were all brought into the team this year to do the jobs Raheem Brock did.

However, the reality is age, along with wear-n-tear have limited Brock's effectiveness. He was next to invisible in Super Bowl 44, filling in for Dwight Freeney on many downs while Freeney nursed a badly injured ankle. During the 2009 season, the Colts utilized him more as a "joker" at linebacker, blitzing him (standing up) in between the tackles in a hybrid 3-4 look. Now, with the younger and quicker Jerry Hughes, Brock doesn't seem as suited for this role.

Also, from what we know, it was Brock who asked for his release, and the Colts granted it. Since his contract was terminated back in early March, no teams have seemingly sniffed around the nine-year veteran.

For me, Brock will always be a Colt. But, for 2010, it's time to move on.

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Re 3 players drafted to fill 1 man role

1 big problem with that. You could just leave Brock in, thats why he had more D snaps than anyone. U rotate 3 players to fill 1 spot and hurry up offenses will catch us with the wrong man on the field or still in midst of change and get a penalty like Peyton does to others

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by bayone on Jun 21, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You listed 3 rookies

I would rather have Brock’s abilities and experiences over theirs. Call me crazy, but Brock was a beast. He always did what was asked of him and never complained. Brock knows the defense. They are new to it. He would be a great asset to have back on this team.

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by coltsfan723 on Jun 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

And analysts agree the an was underated

but always came through on key plays, Saying he did nothing in SB 44 well neither did Mathis do anything remarkable, I want Hughes quite alot & , love to see three real DE’s in at once as has been talked about, But Brock was a special player in his own right

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by bayone on Jun 21, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

And analysts agree he was underated

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by bayone on Jun 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's too old now

He was a beast, back in 2004, 2005, 2006. Not anymore. Back in 04 and 05, he could actually rush the passer from the outside. He lost the burst. He isn’t as great in inside pass rushing anymore either.

Sad, but it happens to every athlete with age. Time to retire, Brock.

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by Bluedude on Jun 21, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

All I know is

he made many a key play lasy year at critical times whenever I see a game replay on NFL network

Of course with each year he gets older, a bit slower, just think he stil can contribute

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by bayone on Jun 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

he disappeared a lot of times too.

Back in 06 SB, he actually made key plays. 09 SB? He disappeared.

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by Bluedude on Jun 21, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mathis kind of did too, Freeney sets the tone for all

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by bayone on Jun 21, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why Freeney is the keystone of our D.

The whole line depends on what Freeney does or stops doing.

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by BlueMark1821 on Jun 21, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly my point, dont look at SB44

dont look at SB44 & say Brock didnt do anything & say he has nothing else left, Mathis was in same boat, No Freeney and the ship sinks

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by bayone on Jun 22, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i tend to agree too....

just like if we dont have Peyton… doesn’t really matter who the receivers are…..

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by Manning4ever on Jun 22, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately with or without Freeney

Brock hasn’t done much. Mathis, for example, has done a hell of a lot more with Freeney.

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by Bluedude on Jun 22, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mathis and Freeney Are a great combo and work well together

I’m just saying Brock has made some key stops, re watch the Pats game and just listen to announcers at time rave. Does he do this every game, of course not ! Is he getting older , Yes. just saying he did fill a niche that this article is saying we will use 3 players to fill. I think that alone is a statement on the variety of things he can do as needed to a satisfactory level. Am i saying that the 3 will do a better job or not, NO as We will have to wait & see , but Brock would be a nice mentor.

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by bayone on Jun 22, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

well said bayone well said...

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by Manning4ever on Jun 22, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a reason why he hasn't been picked up

by all the teams that could’ve picked him up after he got released.

He certainly wasn’t playing at a satisfactory level. Sure, he made a few key stops, but so did other players like Foster. The difference? Brock got paid big time money for a few key stops, way too much compared to the other guys. For the salary he was paid, he was playing at nowhere near the satisfactory level.

The man is getting older, and last couple seasons showed. He lost the burst he used to have. There are cheaper, younger options available, so the Colts should go that route. It’s probably better to bring Brock back as a consultant (probably never going to happen) if he were to play a mentor role.

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by Bluedude on Jun 22, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brock is a beloved player and a fan favorite and .....

as in my Fanshot, i believe he has reasons to ask for a his release which I am sad to see. A common trend for Colts players is that other teams most likely will not sign any of them generally speaking. Not being picked up by other teams does not necessarily mean he is a bad player. Your points here kinda explain why the Colts wanted to re-negotiate his pay….. i just hope there is no ill will between the Colts and Brock.. so in case he is needed, he can come back…. that’s all….

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by Manning4ever on Jun 22, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

When u watch a draft they alawys talk about someone being a great pickup for the Colts as he is a perfect fit for that teams " SYSTEM " Thats what Brock was with us, plug him here, plug him there. Not as good at his age as a pure fix, put a plug can sometimes work wonders in a system and not in other teams schemes so wont get picked up. The Colts love players that can do a job in many a position.

Its nice to have a verstile plug. Like only 1 item in your junk draw to look for instead of a cluttered mess even an old used one comes in handey at times. As a mentor , consultant , yes he would be great but doubt that too. He wants to play At less of a salary well worth it.

In time I am sure we will get it right his subsitute as all who age eventually move on and bring in others to replace. I just hope we get it right sooner rather than later

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by bayone on Jun 23, 2010 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand the Mitch King love...

BBS and it seems SB in general goes out if his/their way to praise this guy and assume him into the defensive gameplan for the next year. But what the hell is this based on? What has he done as a pro? Why does anyone think he’s magically going to come here and be ready to contribute?

It’s possible, but I swear folks around here write about King like he’s a surefire thing, even though he’s far from it.

by Collin McCollough on Jun 21, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I hear ya, I don't think King will make the roster, and probably won't make the practice squad

There is a lot of competition for those Defensive Line spots this year.
The four tackles will be Johnson, Muir, Foster and Moala.
The four DE’s will be Freeney, Mathis, Hughes and Chick.
Mathews and Baldwin will make the practice squad leaving King, and Dawson out of the NFL.

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Jun 21, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way the Colts will re-sighn him, if they were thinking about re-sighning him they would not have brought in so many yound guys.

His production has dropped way off over the past few years, and they have so many young guys, the coaches will find someone they like that is younger, faster and with more upside.

He was a likeable player and has had some decent years, but that was 3 or 4 years ago, it’s time for him to move on.

Defense is more important than breathing.

by BetterD on Jun 21, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Perception is a funny thing...

Funny how everyone loves Brock for what he brings to the table…yet the same people don’t like a guy like Charlie Johnson for the exact same reasons…Size, lack of athleticism, production, whatever…but both are players that are COLTS in every way shape and form (do anything to help the team)…just sayin…

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by TRDean on Jun 22, 2010 6:31 AM EDT reply actions  

observation correct.....

I think maybe we have very high expectation of our LT, Tarik Glenn set the table (despite the compulsory criticism)…..

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by Manning4ever on Jun 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Tarik Glenn left our running died

Thats why we are spoiled, it was a shocking decision on his part for the colts and thus never gave Ugoh a chance to learn from a great one. When u throw someone into the fire sometimes the mistakes bring a defeat of ones ego , instead of a resolve to get better, Think this happened to Ugoh.

We do need a tarik glenn, we need an OL that can both pass protect and run block and when we had Tarik at LT with Sat in the middle we were set. Thats what we miss. Its not that CJ is bad , just a 1 dimensional blocker

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by bayone on Jun 23, 2010 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

BBS I have to disagree

I think Brock played a pretty big part in our defense last year. He had more snaps than either Freeney OR Mathis last year, something not a lot of people think about.

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by SHaFF87 on Jun 23, 2010 4:22 AM EDT reply actions  

just hoping...

hughes can fill his shoes

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by SHaFF87 on Jun 23, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed and said often in this thread or elsewhere

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by bayone on Jun 23, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll miss Brock... just like i'll miss MJax

but the truth is, every time a player is replaced with someone the coaches think improves the team, we should be happy.

If the new WRs turn out to be so good that Gonzo never again sees the field… if every one of the current O-Line players are replaced with better, newer players… any time a position is upgraded, we should be ecstatic.

Bye, Raheem. It was really fun watching you.

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by teej813 on Jun 26, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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