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NFL Films' Steve Sabol calls Peyton Manning "greatest quarterback of all time"

One of our readers, coltus, was kind enough to post a great USA Today article featuring the man behind NFL Films, Steve Sabol. If you don't know who Sabol is, stop reading this article right now and look him up. For those of you who do know who is he, it's pretty safe to say the man has watched more film on NFL players, both past and present, than almost anyone in the NFL, and he has a pretty good idea of who is and isn't great in the annals of NFL lore.

So, when Steve Sabol says that Peyton Manning will go down as the "greatest quarterback of all time," then that opinion holds some serious weight.

NFL Films president Steve Sabol says Manning is well on his way to another rarefied place — as in best ever.

"When he retires, he'll go down as the greatest quarterback of all time," Sabol says. "The only player I can remember saying that about while he was playing was Jerry Rice.

"When he was playing, I felt comfortable saying, 'You're looking at the greatest receiver who's ever played.' "

In Sabol's mind, Manning ranks with Rice's former San Francisco 49ers teammate, Hall of Fame quarterback Joe Montana, and three other icons as he enters his 13th season.

"Peyton's up there on the Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks with Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and Sammy Baugh," Sabol says. "He's up there on that mountaintop now. And because of longevity, the way he's such a field general and great passer, he's going to hold every record by the time he retires."

Sabol's opinion on Manning is likely not shared by television commentators like Chris Collinsworth, but there is a reason why people often berate and insult Collinsworth for his rantings on football. Meanwhile, Sabol's pontifications on the NFL are about as close at gospel as it gets.

For us Colts fans, our feelings and thoughts on Manning have always been at odds with what people write and say about him. To call him the "best ever" is no surprise to us. We've always known that. We see him at every game, at every practice, and we know.

We know that no one in the history of pro football has ever done what Peyton does. 

With people like me, it has never been about "proving" Peyton is the best. It's common knowledge he's the best, and anyone who disagrees is simply an idiot or a Manning hater. In many cases, they are both.

For me, it has always been about pointing out the inconsistent exceptions associated with Peyton; how critics move the goal posts after every Peyton Manning accomplishment. Critics said he could never win "a big game." When he did, they changed their expectations and said he would never get to a Super Bowl. When he did, they changed their expectations and said he'd never win a Super Bowl. When he did, they changed their expectations and said he needed to win two. And so on...

After winning an NFL record four league MVP awards, a Super Bowl MVP, and his continued assent up the statistical charts in categories like touchdowns, yards, and completion percentage, Sabol's words simply reinforce what most of us have known since 1999: Peyton Manning is the best ever.

Better than Montana.

Better than Unitas.

Better than Elway.

Better than Graham.

Better than anyone at the quarterback position.

Also, just FYI: ESPN called Tom Brady the best quarterback of the 2000s. The ESPN analyst quoted in the article, backing up the Brady selection, was former-Chiefs coach Herm Edwards. Recently, someone asked Herm Edwards on Twitter "if you could start a franchise 2morrow with any player retired or still in the NFL who you got?"

Guess who Edwards' answer was?

"Peyton Manning."

Really Herm? Not the best quarterback of the 2000 decade? Not Tom Brady, who is the quarterback in a rather sizable ESPN market, especially compared to the Indianapolis one?

Throw ESPN in with the idiot, Manning hater, or both categories.

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Collinsworth is an idiot

I believe it was the Tenn game last season during garbage time since the Colts kicked the Tits’ ass, and Michaels and Collinsworth were discussing Peyton’s place among the great quarterbacks. I can’t believe Michaels agreed with Collinsworth about Peyton needing another ring to join the elite group. Anyway, Collinsworth continued to say that in order for Peyton to be an all-time great, he needs another ring to be in the same class as Montana, Elway, and Marino—Marino?!

 The same Dan Marino who didn’t get a ring in the one Super Bowl he had ever played in his career?! The same Dan Marino whose TD record was broken by Manning?! The same Dan Marino who’s considered the greatest quarterback without a ring and one of the greatest of all-time?!

As soon as Collinsworth said that, he shut the fuck up because he knew his argument was invalid and Peyton Manning was now an all-time great who is on his way of being the greatest quarterback of all-time.

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember that Collinsworth comment.

Too funny to say Peyton needs 2 rings to be up there with Marino…

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This hits the nail on the head for me:
For me, it has always been about pointing out the inconsistent exceptions associated with Peyton; how critics move the goal posts after every Peyton Manning accomplishment.

Such a source of frustration over the years.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, let’s face reality here, the league’s passing rules have opened up the game and resulted in a lot of benchmarks being wiped out. Not to say that should count against anyone playing now, but it’s easier now with the “emphasis” on PI calls.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the passing rules had been in place since 1978

they just began to enforce them more after the 2003 Championship Game against the Pats.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jun 4, 2010 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And what was the result?

Manning smashed every record in the subsequent year, and QB ratings league wide went up. Again, this is why the benchmarks got moved forward for everyone. It’s not a conspiracy to hold Peyton down.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

the fact that rules, that were already in place, were actually being enforced should be held against a player’s legacy? Not seeing the logic in that…

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jun 4, 2010 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Neither am I, I said: “Not to say that should count against anyone playing now”.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing to prove?

For someone with nothing to prove, you seem very invested in having everybody agree with you.

A lot of people are reluctant to bestow GOAT status on an active player. One of the qualifications for GOAT is how a player fundamentally changes the game itself. It’s hard to know the extent of that until the player has been gone for a while.

As for the Brady vs Manning debate, I think that one is dying out. Every year that Brady is “just” a great quarterback on a great team (as opposed to the captain of a juggernaut) while Manning continues to rack up accolades makes the argument look a little weaker.

But then again, as you say, Marino racked up a ton of personal accomplishments but zero rings. Hate it all you want but rings are a big measure of achievement in a lot of people’s minds. Calling those people idiots doesn’t automatically make it so.

"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning

by szquirrel on Jun 4, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Rings - Smings

People who compare championships won vs. best players are morons…..and yes, it does make it so…

Steve Young won a single SB, yet in doing so, broke most of Montana’s records…..

Kurt Warner played in 3 SB’s, won 1, has 2 MVPs, a SB MVP, and holds the 3 top best passing games by a QB in the top game of the sport…

Peyton Manning has 4 MVPs, 1 SB MVP, broke the all time TD record, holds numerous statistical records, and will hold more by the end of his career, and has played in 2 SB’s….

Yet, these guys are inferior compared to the like of Terry Bradshaw and Tom Brady…… considering Bradshaw was on the greatest single defensive team ever….and Brady was on a similar situation. Were both QB’s talented? Absolutely….but with that defense you could have had JaMarcus Russell at QB and won games…

by DevilsReject on Jun 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

With that defense...

Peyton would have 5 rings by now…

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And if a frog had wings

he’d be my uncle.

This isn’t fantasy football, this is actual football. Actual achievements always trump the ones that might have been.

But sure, let’s talk about achievements. How many of Peyton’s are thanks to his all-star receiving corps and offensive line? When talking about how awesome Peyton is we like to cite his individual accomplishments as if he achieved them all by himself while putting his disappointments on the defense, the running game, etc. We can’t have it both ways.

No, I don’t seriously believe that Peyton ranks lower than that walking tubesteak Bradshaw. But I bet if you asked Peyton himself, he’d absolutely trade all those statistical records for a few more rings in a heartbeat.

If Peyton retires with one ring, there will always be people who ask why. That’s all I’m saying.

"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning

by szquirrel on Jun 4, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

All star Offensive Line?

And I’d put the all star receivers’ success equally on Manning’s talent as well as their own.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

while I do think Peyton will trade his records for a few more rings....

which i think he “WILL” get, you really cannot say he is not the best simply based on number of rings… It is an unfair judgement. But really who cares, history will tell…. I am darn sure he WILL be the GOAT when he retires… will he be the GOAT forever? Not so sure… there are afterall, future generations of QB until the Apocalypse. OH, btw, chicken and egg issue again, does Peyton makes our OL and WR cores better? or vice versa…. ??

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

what!!
but with that defense you could have had JaMarcus Russell at QB and won games

The steelers in the 70’s had a great offense as well. Harris, Swann, Stallworth, and Bradshaw all HOFers. Maybe the first two Super Bowls they relied on Defense but the next two it was all around play offense and defense

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are on drugs ....

JaMarcus Russell cannot win crap with the best Defense of All time….. he is not Trent Dilfer….

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is not dilfer

or even Hostetler.

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and no im not on drugs

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

good to know...

seriously we are all entitled to our opinions here…. especially that you are a Steelers fan. History will tell… and at this time, the single most experienced person who watched football history has spoken.

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

steeler fan or not

i’m not trying to discredit Peyton. unfortunately now these days you grade a qb’s career by rings. a question though?
ball on the 20 yard line down by 4 in the 4th quarter with less than two minutes go, who do you want as your qb??
Not Favre
not Kelly
Not Peyton

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me fix that for you, you seemed to have messed that up some how
i’m not trying to discredit Peyton. unfortunately now these days you grade a qb’s career by rings. a question though?
ball on the 20 yard line down by 4 in the 4th quarter with less than two minutes go, who do you want as your qb??
Not Favre
not Kelly
Not I WANT Peyton

There we go! Thats better!

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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

its still not going to change that Peyton threw an interception

in the 4th quarter in the Super Bowl

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

which wasn't his fault

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

wayne or whoever it was doesnt get charged for an INT

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton can't control the fact

that Wayne stop running his route.

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coming from the fan of a team who's QB

had a 23 rating in a Super Bowl.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jun 4, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and still won the Super Bowl

remember that?
well remember Peyton threw and INT to seal the fate of the game.
not Brady, not Elway, not Montana, not Ben. Peyton

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 6, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The defense won that Super Bowl for Benjamin.

I remember when Reggie quit on his route and Porter stepped in front of him for the INT. You’re on the wrong site if you want to berate Peyton, buddy.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

plus he was down 7

even if he scored a TD, the odds were good that Brees would have driven the Saints to the winning FG. He had already led them to 21 straight points and the Colts Defense hadn’t shown any indication of being able to stop the Saints Offense. Not saying that the INT wasn’t a bad play, but people seem to forget the circumstances facing Manning before he threw it.

 People act like he had a chance to win the game and blew it yet if he had led them to a TD it would’ve only tied the game at 24 and I wouldn’t have been very confident that the Colts defense would’ve been able to stop Brees with the game on the line.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jun 4, 2010 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I serously doubt your logic...

NO, a QB’s career is not “defined” by the number of rings… it is aided but NOT defined…. but again….. talking with a Steelers fan or home-grown trolls do not make sense to me either…. i’d rather go do some Peyton drooling…. heeheee

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're quickly becoming one of my favs!

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

I have been adoring you for a while too…. hee

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally words of wisdome from Steven Sabol.....

I know i always like that guy… “wink wink”….

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh side note.....it seems BBS's writings are getting more and more enjoyable recently....

don’t know why…..

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

rings matter, but aren't the only factor

Right now Peyton Manning is clearly among the top QBs in NFL history, with pretty strong arguments for being #1. You can still argue for Montana or Elway based on their rings, maybe Unitas and some others who won pre-Super Bowl championships as well. But if he gets a couple more rings he’ll be clearly the greatest ever beyond any reasonable debate.

by ex-Viking fan on Jun 4, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

if he gets a couple more rings he will be the greatest ever

or 1 more

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sabol's schitck has always been hyperbole.

Best regular season QB? You could a great case for Peyton.
Best post-season QB?
Let’s be honest folks. Post-season is a big part of a player’s legacy, it’s when you go against the best the league has to offer. Not padding stats against some tomato can.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Manning has a bunch of postseason records.

It’s not entirely his fault that the win/loss record is .500. Do you think it was Marino’s fault that he never won a Championship? He’s had a ton of great Post-Season Games. (vs. Denver in 2003, @ KC 2003, vs. Denver 2004, vs. Patriots 2006 AFC Championship Game, SB XLI, vs. Chargers 2007, vs. Jets 2009)

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jun 4, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Enough with the Brady comparisons.

Part of GOAT is being a winner in big games and pressure situations no matter what your stats are.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks... you are right...

just “part” of it…. and Peyton “can” win in big games if the “team” performs…. I appreciate home-grown trolls with some great insights to offer…. please don’t rehash what all Peyton haters say… Yep, repeating it does not make it true. So, let us just all wait and see… for us Peyton lovers (too bad not Peyton’s lovers… haha) it is good for an influential voice to finally stand up for Big P.

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm stating this becuase people act like Peyton doesn't perform in the playoffs.

Playoff performance does indeed matter. Clutch performance is indeed true. It is just Manning is as good in these categories as anyone not named Joe Montana (there’s time to beat him too). Just because Brady had a better kicker and Brady and Ben had better defenses, does not make them better postseason players.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jun 4, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Abso-fucXXXX-lutely!!

rec’d!
and note that Sabol says Peyton “WILL” be the GOAT when he retires…. not really putting him above Montana yet…. And above that he will….

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

when you face the Jaguars, Titans and Texans twice a year your stats go up a bit

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Says the fan who teams plays the Browns and the Bengals twice a year....

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

Jebus.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

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by Cassieper on Jun 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where have you been for past several years?

The Texans are starting to turn into a pretty damn good team. And you have to play the fucking BROWNS twice a year….talk about inflated states. Oh wait…they beat your ass’ last year didn’t they. Maybe they are a challenge for Rapistburger and the Squeelers

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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

*stats

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So every div. has pushovers

The point here is that he’s not the juggernaut in the post-season (against the league’s best, when it matters most) than he is against pedestrian regular season foes.
Post-season play is a big part of GOAT consideration.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?!

Earlier in Peyton’s career, you were probably on to something; but for the last 4-5 years, the Colts, especially the defense, has been pretty banged up. Even in this past Super Bowl, Peyton had the Saints figured out and still loss (Peter King’s actual words)! Peyton has been damn good many of the Colts Playoffs losses the past few years, but when your team isn’t healthy (i.e. Freeney in ‘07 and in the Super Bowl and Sanders the past few seasons), it’s really hard to win the Super Bowl.

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dead. On. Right.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yards in last 4 playoff losses:

2009 Super Bowl: 333
2008 Wild Card: 310
2007 Divisional: 402
2005 Divisional: 290.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jun 4, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid injures.

"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir

Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: In the average lifetime, a person will walk the equivalent of 5 times around the equator.

by Cassieper on Jun 6, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm

OP put

+1
when you face the Jaguars, Titans and Texans twice a year your stats go up a bit

that has nothing to do with the post season. That has to do with stats and division games. You are trying to blame every freakin loss in the post season on Manning. This is a team game. Manning didn’t run a lazy route in the biggest game of the year. Defense has injury issues for I dont know how long. But that falls on Peyton too huh? Please. Turn off ESPN and make some assessments of his play on your own

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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ummmm OP put

+1
when you face the Jaguars, Titans and Texans twice a year your stats go up a bit

that has nothing to do with the post season. That has to do with stats and division games. You are trying to blame every freakin loss in the post season on Manning. This is a team game. Manning didn’t run a lazy route in the biggest game of the year. Defense has injury issues for I dont know how long. But that falls on Peyton too huh? Please. Turn off ESPN and make some assessments of his play on your own

the guy’s post before mine asked this question

Best regular season QB? You could a great case for Peyton

So my answer was refering to that question not postseason.
My qb didnt throw an INT in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl
He threw a td with less than 45 seconds to go to win his second Super Bowl
There is no need to deny that Peyton is a great qb
But in the postseason I’ll take Ben all day.

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can have Ben

if you can keep his ass out of drunk girls and on the football field. No one here wants trash like that on this team. We take pride in being a a classy organization. And that class starts at the top with the Irsays and goes and goes all the way down. If ANYBODY on the Colts roster had been in that situation then they would have been gone. No matter how much money the Colts had wrapped up in him. They would cut their losses and move on.

And don’t try to say “oh well Eric Foster did the same thing!” No, Eric foster was falsely accused by a trashy woman who wanted a pay day. Foster passes a lie detector test and proved he was the victim in that situation. None of the stuff brought against Foster was even questionable. Can’t say that much for your QB. I hope a FS has his way with that mullet on opening day.

SHE SAID NO!!!!

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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can say Ben was falsely accused as well

She said no, It was probably bandwagon Colt fans that were chanting that during the draft while a minor was presenting the pick. Classless my ass

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 6, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

cause Ben was GREAT when he QBed a 16-1 team at home in a title game, and so great at home in the snow against a team from California.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jun 4, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make that a team from Florida.

BTW, I was referring to his 3-int game in the 2004 Title Game at home, and his even more uber-suck of a 4-int game in the 2007 Wild Card game against Jacksonville.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jun 4, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that team from florida Jacksonville?

is built like a team from the North

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 6, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

how old was he?

How much experience did he have. in 04 he was still a rookie. A ROOKIE!! He went on to win a Super Bowl in his second year. Okay say his first SB game was terrible, but his line of the work in the PLAYOFFS was amazing for a sophomore type player. Anyone see the game vs Denver or Bengals, or the COLTS. oh by the way lets not get into the Polamalu INT that should have been. He had possession on it.
 07 wcgame was horrible no doubt in that. But he had won a Super Bowl by then.

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 6, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colts are supposed to go 16--0 every season and win in the playoffs

but they CHOKE!!

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 6, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This coming from a person

who is a fan of a team that makes the playoffs every other year. Goooo consistency!!

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 7, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

You realize that is the only TD he's thrown in 2 Superbowls.

Prior to that drive he was playing an okay game and in Super Bowl XL he was horrible except for one pass to convert a 3rd and 28. So you’re saying you’d take Ben over Manning b/c of one drive?? Eli had a great drive in Super Bowl XLII but I don’t think many people would take him over Dan Marino.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jun 6, 2010 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yes i would take Ben over Peyton in the playoffs

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 6, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let him take Ben.

I think we’re all happy taking Manning.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jun 7, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know your profile

says your a Colts fan, but I have my doubts. Specifically when you mentioned the DPI calls getting more attention now.

Regardless, post season play must include defense. You know, the whole “defense wins championships” thingy?

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He/she is a Colts fan?!

Can’t be!!! I can’t believe someone that is so negative about his/her team!

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

I had to check because upon reading the response to my original comment above I was SURE we were dealing with a Pats fan…

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not hating the team, just trying to get past the homerism. I said he was the greatest reg. season QB. But there’ more to being GOAT, and post-season is a big part of that.

by Cro-mags on Jun 4, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like DZ says

it’s not homerism if you’re right

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

I’ve always wanted to use that somehow. Very well done, my friend!

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, thank you!

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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by coltsfan723 on Jun 4, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking.

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jags were 7-9 last year, which is mediocre.

Titans were 8-8 and 8-2 with Young as a starter. Plus the Texans probably would’ve won 12 games last year if it weren’t for stupid mistakes and clutch play by Manning and the Colts’ Defense in the 4th Quarter.

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Jun 4, 2010 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

touche

I love Vegas
Franco made that play because he never quit on the play. He kept running, he kept hustling. Good things happen to people who hustle."

by PCISteeler on Jun 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey!! Get an APB out for Indy Lori

No way does she miss this thread…….She’s gotta be being held for ransom somewhere…..Or else Peyton had her locked up.

by tim55 on Jun 4, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

We need Indy Lori here!

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree!

If she’s locked up (lol, btw) I’ll contribute to a bail fund!

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Jun 4, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me, too!

"The only time you really live fully is from thirty to sixty. The young are slaves to dreams; the old servants of regrets. Only the middle-aged have all their five senses in the keeping of their wits." -Theodore Roosevelt

by KMR24 on Jun 4, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If she is locked up by Peyton .... and she can see Peyton everyday...

I bet you she would definitely NOT want to be out here…… with us Schmuks…. :)

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 4, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh..... ahhhhh....

haha……. I have a weird little mind here ….

Peyton had her locked up
. hee heee

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 5, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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