Robert Mathis skipping Colts mini-camp as well
by Brad Wells on Jun 4, 2010 2:05 PM EDT
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PrintLike Reggie Wayne, Robert Mathis is not happy about his contract. Also like Reggie Wayne, Robert is hurting the team by not showing up to mandatory mini-camp because of the before-mentioned contract situation.
From Paul Kuharsky's Twitter:
Caldwell: Mathis and Bethea are not at minicamp along with Wayne. "Coach who shows up" is his mantra.
Does that also mean that Coach Caldwell will play only those players who "show up?" Again, if things are as the Colts often say they are, this means that Robert Mathis and Reggie Wayne's roster positions are "open." Since they aren't there, does this mean someone like Anthony Gonzalez or Jerry Hughes can get a leg up on taking their jobs from them?
In reality, that's probably unlikely, which is why I have often said of late that this "open competition" stuff the Colts throw around is total BS. Personally, I kind of wish it really was "open." It might motivate Mathis and Wayne to get their butts to camp instead of sulking wherever they are over contracts they signed and agreed to years ago.
The only person with a legit beef is Antoine Bethea. He has not yet signed his tender, which is a number significantly less than what he is worth. So, I understand why Bethea is not there.
I have less sympathy for Wayne and Mathis.
Again, like with Reggie Wayne, it's not like Robert Mathis' last game (Super Bowl 44) was anything to write home about. From PhilB:
Mathis didn't so much as have one tackle [in Super Bowl 44]. He was dominated. Freeney takes pressure off Mathis, so one could argue he wouldn't be the same player without Free, and thus he's not in the same Pro Bowl class.
And now, Robert wants more money? Please.
Get your butt in camp, Robert. If not, I would have absolutely no problem seeming Jerry Hughes take your job. It's not like the team drafted him just to sit on the bench, or anything.
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Actually I am starting to get a bit upset, sad and numb around this time of the year....
What makes me sadder this time is that these are all very important COLTS players which can enable us to win the SB this year and next. Other than Bethea whom I totally think deserve a new big fat contract, the other two most likely are forced to do so due partially to the uncertainty of the CBA – at least I hope. While there is sure no loyalty in sports, COLTS is one of the few (if i can think of any) that actually is quite loyal…. they attempted to renegotiate Harrison’s contract and not outright cut him even though he was surely not as productive as he was….. One thing of interests, it seems most good COLTS players do not really command that much wins or attention “after” they signed with other teams…. any exceptions anybody knows? I mean, like, oh, he is sooooo good kinda way?
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
Jake Scott has been a very good guard for the Titans since leaving the Colts
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Jun 5, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
true, but at least from my pt of view.....
he may not have achieved as much as if he was still with the Colts….
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
It might be an open competition
But that doesn’t make it an even one. Mathis is a Pro Bowler competing with a guy who has never played a down in the NFL. Wayne has more experience as a starter than the rest of the WR corps put together. Even at 75% effort I doubt that either one would get beat.
I don’t consider either one to be a feminine hygiene product for skipping mini-camp. Holdouts are a legit negotiating tactic. They’ll both get fined for it even if they don’t get what they want. If they overdo it, they’ll get cut. I have confidence in the Colts’ ability to not be held hostage in a contract dispute. Let these guys make their statements and (hopefully) be done with it.
"The best defensive player is the sideline." - Trevor Pryce, on how to stop Peyton Manning
I totally agree that
both Reggie and Mathis had a very disappointing SB XLIV.
Mathis was absolutely humilliated and even Freeney, as hurt as he was, did even more than Robert.
Wayne didn’t have a lot of participation and when both guys were needed, both failed miserably.
I’m not saying we lost that game because of them, but they didn’t do a lot for the win either.
Now, both guys are needed again and its, well, their JOBS to show to a MANDATORY camp.
I would have absolutely no problem watching Hughes and Gonzo/Garcon/Collie out there.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
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by BlueMark1821 on Jun 4, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
POINTS EXACTLY!!!
actually the more I think about the issue and the more i look at analysis of theSB pick 6 AND Wayne’s dropped TD in the endzone, the more I wonder how much he can contribute to our next SB run! I am sure he is great, but c’mon!
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
There is no legitimate reason to wonder how much Wayne can contribute to a SB run
Look at how many games he came up huge in during the regular season last year (start with the Patriots game). Also, Collie and Garcon wouldn’t have looked half as good in the playoffs if Wayne wasn’t double covered on every single snap. People are reading too much into one game. Wayne and Mathis are both GREAT players.
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Jun 5, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
NO one denies they are both great players....
and in fact they have all the rights to demand what they think they deserve…. and also we actually really do not know the whole truth of how their contracts work….. so I believe we should with-hold judgment at least for now….. however, if it comes down to whether that will hurt the team or not, maybe that is a different story. We all can do whatever we think is right but if that hurts the team, fans have the rights to dis-like them – some fans even dislike Manning…. so……
btw, with Wayne, I am bitter…. since that is the single most important game in 2009… and he also dropped a TD besides the pick-6. Manning went to whom he trusted most in that situation and obviously it was Wayne…..
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
I like how all of the sudden the Mathis and Wayne are seemingly expendable commodities just because they want to be paid. If anyone seriously thinks not having Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis starting doesn’t adversely affect the team as a whole, you’re nuts.
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by KingRichard on Jun 4, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
you are right...
but nobody knows IF the Colts can win the big one without them either… maybe, maybe not…. maybe the defense suddenly came alive as in 2006….. maybe the management will do something unexpected to booster the team…. teams keep on changing and adapting – this is just the business and realistic side of the sports… I also had doubts before the SB whether Colts will win it or not, both on your blog and here, and most of the Colts fans assured me that my concerns were unfounded….. it is just “you never know”!
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