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I know many of you are kind of "ho-hum" about the SB Nation regional sites that were just launched. While I think that, in general, we all agree that they look good and that good people are associated with them (like Sean Yuille from Pride of Detroit and Ed Valentine of Big Blue View), most of you are here because you love to talk about the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, it's early June, and the football chatter in here seems no different than if it were early September. Since the focus is almost always on Indianapolis football around here, the lunching of sites that are focused on New York, DC, and (barf!) Boston sports are not really high on everyone's OMG! list.

But, as you know, SB Nation plans to roll out more regional sites between now and July 1st. Places like Kansas City (June 14th), St. Louis (June 15th), and Minnesota (June 16th) will have such sites deployed during that time. It's very good that more Midwestern cities are getting some regional love, not just the coastal megapolis centers... plus Chicago.

However, despite a fairly good Midwestern presence in the regional sites realm, we Hoosiers are kind of left out in the cold at bit.

Personally, I understand why cities like St. Louis, Minneapolis, and others are getting regional sites over Indy. They are bigger markets with larger fanbases, overall. And, at the end of the day, that is the bottom line.

You'll also notice that cities like Cincinnati, Milwaukee, and Charlotte are not scheduled to get sites between now and July 1st. Each of those markets are bigger than Indianapolis (which is the 33rd most populous metro area in the union, for those of you who care about that sort of thing). As of right now, I am not aware of any plans by SB Nation to create a regional site for Indianapolis, or for the heartland area of the Midwest in general.

However, if they did want to make such a site, what would you want to see? Talk with me about it after the jump.

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I've always been the curious type, and I'm always interested in what people want to see and read about when it comes to websites and blogs. And since this group has absolutely no problem telling me what they do and do not like, I'm curious as to how you think an SB Nation regional site for our area should offer.

Now, I'll preface this by saying that I have absolutely no say in how any regional sites are made, designed, and rolled out. None. Zero. It's a totally separate crew that makes decisions on that stuff. There is also no guarantee that I would have any involvement with such a regional site in terms of editing or contributing content. For some around here, I'm fairly certain you think that's a good thing (hehe). So, this discussion is all about what you would want in terms of content and focus with ZERO guarantees that it will ever come into existence. 

OK, all that said, let's talk.

What should be the sports focus categories? Logically, teams like the Colts and Pacers should be there? But after that... what?

So, the site focus for Indianapolis is likely Colts, Pacers, and probably Butler basketball. However, SB Nation does not have a blog that covers Butler (ahem, for anyone with an itch to blog Bulldog hoops). So, with only two major sports to cover (sorry, but minor league hockey and baseball simply do not count), Indianapolis simply does not offer enough for a regional site to cover.

Now, if you want something that expands to the entire state, then you can start including places like Indiana University, Purdue University, and Notre Dame.

But, I know several Hoosiers in southern Indiana who are big Louisville Cardinals fans. My father was born and raised in New Albany, IN, which is essentially a suburb or Louisville, KY. There are also many Cincinnati Bearcats fans in Southern and Western Indiana, along with many Ohio State fans. With Columbus and Cincy in the mix, you now have to include the Bengals, Reds, and Blue Jackets. But, once you start adding in southern Ohio and Kentucky, you are no longer talking about a regional site just for Indiana. I haven't even mentioned the University of Illinois, which is in Urbana-Champaign and has absolutely nothing to do with the Chicago sports market. 

So, that's Indiana, Southern Ohio, most of Kentucky, and a dash of Illinois. Oh, and Notre Dame, which is a universe all its own, according to their fans.

From SB Nation's blog make-up, they have people writing about the Colts, Bengals, Pacers, Reds, Hoosiers, Boilermakers, Cardinals (Louisville), Bearcats, Wildcats, Fighting Irish, Buckeyes, and Fighting Illini.

So, what you have now, if you go that route, is a SB Nation: Indiana-Illinois-Kentucky-southern Ohio regional site. Kind of crazy, isn't it?

What some of this regional discussion highlights for me is just how different the people are in the regions we are discussing compared to the borders placed around us. Folks in Southern Ohio aren't much different from people in northern Kentucky or southern Indiana. Fans in Indianapolis root for IU and Purdue just as much as they root for the Colts or the Bengals. For me, our "region" isn't tied to one city or even one state, but a collection of pieces of various states to make up one big Midwestern, heartland market.

So, with that, I ask you guys your opinion: What would you want in a regional site? Would you read such a site if it also covered Kentucky basketball and Bengals football? Would you only read it just for the Colts coverage? If the same writer or writers here were involved in that regional site, would you still hit it everyday to read their content over there as opposed to here?

Please offer your thoughts.

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All these regional blogs/websites cover multiple sports

And Indiana doesn’t have a major presence in more than football. Sadly Indiana isn’t known for basketball anymore and everyone in Indiana that’s a baseball fan follows a Chicago team, St. Louis, or one from Ohio. Minor league baseball and hockey is nice, but it’s not something that the everyday person wants to get behind.

So for a regional blog, I think we would have to be included in Chicago, or St. Louis, or Ohio.

by MarkFive05 on Jun 8, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Indiana isn't know for basketball?!

Maybe not the NBA, but it still is the amateur basketball Mecca. I was in Ireland a few months ago and ran into guys who heard I was from Indiana and wanted to talk basketball with me, because I was a Hoosier. Trust me, we’re still known for basketball.

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by JustAJ on Jun 8, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

My recommendation to add Cal athletics

might be a bit misplaced, so I’ll refrain

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by LovinBlue on Jun 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the whole state (plus outliers) approach

will get the hits.

Colts, Pacers, IU, Purdue, Butler, Notre Dame, Louisville?, Boys HS Basketball & Football coverage

I mean that’s enough to have a decent amount of coverage to keep people coming to the site throughout the year at any given time.

With the possible demise of the Star, I think another website that is another hub of all major statewide sports could be needed sometime soon within the next couple of years.

I say go for it whenever the opportunity presents itself!

by LBizZLE on Jun 8, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

It wouldn’t make much sense for multiple sites to cover the same thing. Even though Indiana only has three professional sports teams, there is still plenty of other things to be talked about like the minor league sports, RACING (Indy is the racing capital of the world you know), high school sports, and the like.

I’m looking at this from the perspective of a Ohio or Illinois sports fan; would I want two different sites talking about the Reds or Cubs? No. I’d want all of my Reds and Cubs information in one spot. Ohio and Illinois are big sports states and are more than capable of holding their own, just like I think Indiana is as well in it’s own right.

/imo

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by KingRichard on Jun 8, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I forgot to mention all of the college sports as well.

The more I think about it though, the less I understand the point in these regional blogs. Unless SB nation decided to get rid of all the team specific ones, what’s the point?

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by KingRichard on Jun 8, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

^

Pretty much what KR said.

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by bamock on Jun 8, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question

Good point about racing.

Also, your question on the point of all these regional sites is one some people have raised. Why read Windy City Gridiron when I can get great content from SB Nation:Chicago? Or, the reverse: Why read SB Nation:Chicago if I already get great stuff at WCG?

I do not think SB Nation plans to get rid of team specific sites. However, I can see why you’d ask that.

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by Brad Wells on Jun 8, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this site’s case, there’s been plenty of other sport discussion during the offseason. You don’t necessarily do any analysis, but it wasn’t weird when people started following Butler through here. And if something noteworthy happened with the Pacers, the 500, the Indians, Notre Dame, you could certainly cover it here and just tag it differently. And then you’d end up keeping the brand intact and not spreading people out over several places. I think it’s better for the users and it’s better for you.

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by willyduer on Jun 8, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, regarding Butler

One of the reasons people followed Butler through here is because there isn’t a Butler blog. I mean, I literally cannot find one. The only one that kinda fits the mold of Butler blog is this one, and it doesn’t really offer what we offer. Also, the fact that Butler played the NCAA finals in Lucas Oil Stadium factored into the coverage.

But covering Indiana sports in general is not really the focus of this site. If it were a focus, I’d probably have to start-up a new blog somewhere else, with a new brand, and work on it from there. Thousands of people every day hit Stampede Blue to read Colts news and opinions, not my feelings about the Pacers or Danica Patrick.

Regarding the brand, in general I try and keep the discussion focused on football of football fans. A regional site could possibly be focused more for casual fans.

Good comments, willyduer. Thank you.

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by Brad Wells on Jun 8, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of the good Butler info

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by Colts Homer on Jun 8, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can get around the other sport discussion with open threads though.

BBS doesn’t have to re-brand the site for us to talk about soccer, baseball, etc.

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by Cassieper on Jun 15, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in the large markets, there comes a point where a community of fans of one sport end up wanting to also discuss another sport, since there’s so much overlap in the fanbases.

Think Yankees, Giants, Knicks, etc in NYC. There’s a whole subforum of the Yankee site I go to dedicated to the other local teams, and it gets just as much traffic. Once you’re locked in with a group of people that you “know,” you have better discussion with those same people than over at some other site. And then it consolidates things and gets more hits.

But I don’t think Indiana is a big enough market with enough sports to support it. While I made the argument above for the regional stuff, I still don’t see it as that huge a draw or necessity. Outside of the very largest markets, I kind of think it’s pointless.

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by willyduer on Jun 8, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree somewhat

2 major sports is not enough. Kansas City is cutting it pretty close to be honest. I love the idea of regional sites though!

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by Colts Homer on Jun 8, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more I think about it though, the less I understand the point in these regional blogs. Unless SB nation decided to get rid of all the team specific ones, what’s the point?

I would like to have a site that gives me a “Readers Digest” version of how the various Indy sports are doing. I don’t have the time/inclination to keep up with Bulter and the Indians and IUPUI and the Ice and the various races that come through town. I would still appreciate knowing a little something about them all and being able to follow a conversation about them.

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by szquirrel on Jun 9, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The issue...

Indiana sports fans, generally, are fiercely loyal to individual teams. The regional sports idea would be tough, in my mind, because there would be a lot of information on a regional site that would not interest many fans in the slightest. A fierce IU basketball fan won’t care about Purdue football, and what not. But who knows, it will be interesting to see it come together.

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by bamock on Jun 8, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Colts
Pacers
Butler
Indiana
Purdue
Louisville (?)
Notre Dame (?)
High school sports

Maybe….

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by Colts Homer on Jun 8, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course

But if we are going to take regional teams I would consider Louisville to be more associated with Indianapolis than Cincinnati, but I may be wrong about this.

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by Colts Homer on Jun 9, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Louisville makes sense

Given the proximity. Unfortunately the Reds and Cubs do as well.

I actually wouldn’t mind if the site bled over into Cincinnati in addition to Louisville. But it starts getting really grey once you do that, because while Reds and even Bengals coverage makes sense, it suddenly seems like Bearcats and Xavier stuff doesn’t. At all.

And having Reds and Cubs coverage makes absolutely no sense, because it completely turns the whole “Indiana” thing upside down. It’s just a hodgepodge at that point, which kind of ruins the whole “Indiana” angle.

It’s tough because we can get all of our local information pretty easily by visiting three or four blogs. Like bamock said, we are fiercely loyal to our college sports anyway, so going to a regional site to find out about what recruits Notre Dame picked up in football or what kind of positives Indiana basketball has going into the season just seems like a lot of bypassing for most of us.

Even still, I for one would like to have all local sports information gathered together, especially in regards to more minor local sports. I like to know how the Fever are doing even though I don’t really care a whole lot about the Fever. I would like to know how various high school teams are doing in football or basketball. I just kind of care about that stuff even if I don’t care about the teams themselves. That’s the advantage I would get from a regional site, certainly not in terms of needing them to follow the Colts, Pacers, and Hoosiers.

by Nathan S. on Jun 9, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

 If Indiana were to have a regional site on SB Nation. I would like to see: Colts, Pacers, Fever, all Indiana colleges, all minor league baseball, Indy 500, Brickyard, High School news i.e. IHSAA basketball tournament and IHSAA football results, Pro and amatuer MMA events statewide,Pro and amatuer boxing events, minor league hockey and anything else Indiana related.

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by whardiek on Jun 9, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

We deserve and need one

Indianapolis is regularly voted one of the best sports towns in the country, right? Why wouldn’t we need something dedicated solely to Indpls, and to some extent, Purdue and Indiana?

That would be pretty cool.

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by RockyRippleColtsFan on Jun 10, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, has anyone here ever been to Indiana?

The DePauw-Wabash football rivalry is one of the oldest rivalries in all of sports. ISU is the former stomping grounds of a certain—oh what’s his name—his skills make Peyton look like a vagrant hobo—oh yeah, Larry Bird. I won’t even mention Franklin, Earlham, Anderson…

but I guess a site about Indiana would be best talking about Illinois and Louisville…

sheesh.

Who will love Indiana if it doesn’t learn to love itself???

by Fernando Nougatieri on Jun 10, 2010 7:52 PM EDT reply actions  

arkansas

wouild be nice as well for peopie that say arkansas is too small 3 M where i am its unique a hour from memphis a hour 30 min from okfrod miss a hour from the missouri boothill 3 hours from kentucky paduch 3 from littie rock it couid incorpate tenn and miss also 5 hours from alabama lousuina and okiheoa and texas

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