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A few thoughts on new Colts quarterback Tom Brandstater

It's probably fair to say that we all hope Tom Brandstater never plays significant snaps in a meaningful game for the Colts now or at any point in the near future. While I am sure he is a good guy who works hard and offers some good things as a young quarterback, the fact is the Colts have this dude named Peyton Manning playing quarterback for them right now. According to most people, he's pretty good.

Brandstater was acquired off waivers by the Colts yesterday after the team that drafted him in 2008, the Denver Broncos, dumped him. Brandstater was selected in the 6th Round of the 2009 NFL Draft out of Fresno State and many Broncos fans were hopeful coach Josh McDaniels could possibly transform him into a new Tom Brady, who himself was a 6th Round pick in the 2000 NFL Draft.

Unfortunately for Brandstater, McD fell in love with the McHype associated with Tim Tebow, who Denver drafted in the first round this year. With Denver's roster already containing Kyle Orton and the newly-acquired Brady Quinn, Brandstater was expendable.

Brandstater's new team, the Colts, already has a back-up they feel pretty comfortable with in Curtis Painter. Painter, like Brandstater, was a 6th Rounder in the 2009 NFL Draft. Does Brandstater have a realistic chance to hold a spot on the Colts active roster? We discuss after the jump.

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Mocking Dan at MTD offered this scouting report on Brandstater last year:

Brandstater certainly looks the part. He's tall with a solid frame and knows how to adjust pre-snap. Unlike most current college quarterbacks, he goes through his progressions nicely and often looks to the second and third receiver. Protects his receivers by placing the ball in stride. Very good timing on his throws. Throwing mechanics are sound and consistent. Excellent on short and intermediate routes. According to reports, Brandstater was the most impressive quarterback throwing at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Brandstater's negatives are his mobility and his tendency to let his passes sail. When I watched some footage on the kid, the sailing passes was one of the first things I noticed:

I won't lie to you and tell you I'm some kind of wizard at determining what is or isn't good about a quarterback, but I know what "zip on the football" is supposed to look like when a QB throws a pass. with Brandstater, I don't see that "zip."

With Painter, I do.

Unlike Jim Sorgi, whose noodle arm really limited his effectiveness as a quarterback in the Colts offense, Painter has the ability to make the 15-yard out throw. He can also get the ball down the field, allowing his receivers to make stretch things and make plays.

If the Colts opt to go with three quarterbacks in 2010, which is what they did in 2009, then Brandstater has a shot at making this roster. If the Colts go to two QBs, then Brandstater might need to find his third team in two seasons.

The positive for Brandstater is that regardless of whether he makes this team or not, he's been presented with an excellent opportunity to learn from some great teachers. I personally am not sold on Josh McDaniels as some kind of offensive wizard, or anything. However, the Colts have people like Tom Moore, Frank Reich, and Jim Caldwell. All have extensive experience teaching young quarterbacks how to improve their games at the NFL level.

One interesting note for this year's pre-season is that with the Colts being so deep at wide receiver, quarterbacks like Painter and Brandstater might actually have some good players to throw the ball to during the third and fourth quarters of several exhibition games.

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Colts fans, hopefully you remember me from last season! As for Tommy Brandstater, I thought he had great potential but McDaniels knows it’s silly to have too many signal-callers on your team. Thus, I hope Brandstater pays attention as he learns at the feet of the G.O.A.T, Peyton. Hopefully, he works out for you as if my Broncos don’t go on a deep playoff run, I always hope for the Colts to do well. Call it horse sense!

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Jun 8, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll beat out Painter

I know it.

"My one regret is... that I have... boneitis."
-That Guy

by Colts Homer on Jun 8, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen, I know you despise Painter with every last breath...

But realistically unless we carry 3 QBs, or Brandstater has some phenomenal super powers that make him a much much much (as in starter quality) better than Painter, I don’t think he has much of a shot. First off Painter, for all his faults has 2 major legs up against every competitor. 1) He has a year of experience in the Colts system, learning the playbook inside and out, and 2) He spent the last year learning first hand from Sorgi on what made Sorgi a good backup, which is what the colts need. So ya, If Brandstater shows amazing physical and mental skills during Training Camp, the colts carry 3 QBs, because if they replace Painter with him, they’ll let him glean whatever passed on knowledge Painter has. If Brandstater is on par with all the other Backup quality QBs at camp (Painter, Willy, Hiller) then he is going to have a serious fight on his hands to justify making the colts keep 3 deep at a position that doesn’t need it. (Especially considering the necessity for depth at positions like CB, and the slew of good prospects at WR that could be dual threats).

"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."

-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)

by Jamkel on Jun 8, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Barring injury to Painter, it’s very unlikely any of the other three make the roster. We may have carried 3 last year but Sorgi was pretty much hurt the entire season, making #3 necessary.

We’ll carry 2 active and 1 on the PS again.

by smonroe on Jun 8, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jun 9, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Bronco fan I can tell you,

This kid is underrated. If Peyton goes down, you guys won’t be in to big trouble.

Measuring 6-5, and weighing in at 225, Brandstater has many of the physical tools a quarterback needs to succeed.

With Kyle Orton the incumbent starter, Brady Quinn, and Tim Tebow learning the system, Brandstater’s reps in OTA’s began to dwindle. That was the sole reason Denver let him go, his performance wasn’t an issue,

    "The reps had been dwindling," head coach Josh McDaniels acknowledged. "It’s hard to try to keep a guy in the loop where he can be a competitive player with very few reps. With the way practice was going in the (number of) repetitions, we felt like it was clear now. It was time for us to make the decision and not try to get everybody reps."

The Broncos actually did Brandstater a favor by letting him go earlier than expected. Now he has a chance to become the #2 quarterback in Indianapolis, and won’t miss any of the Colt’s training camp.

by jonmark93 on Jun 8, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

As a Colts fan I can tell you,

if the player this entire team is built around goes down, we will be in big trouble. Even if Brandstater shows promise, he has neither the ability nor the knowledge required to step in and play one tenth as well as Peyton.

Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.

by DontHateAddai on Jun 8, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Jon, we Broncos fans are lucky to cheer for a class organization. If Tommy B was with the Raiders, Al the cadaver in the jump suit would have screwed him.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Jun 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

GO Painter!

that is all

See Ball, Get Ball. Quarterback Has Ball, Sack Him.
I'll either be a Dead Body or a Winner at the end of the day.

by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jun 8, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't forget the practice squad

The Colts have frequently kept a 3rd QB on the practice squad. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the loser of the Painter/Brandstater battle stick around that way.

by ex-Viking fan on Jun 8, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it is a resonable assumption....

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 9, 2010 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna buy his jersey

My last name is Branstad and this is probably the closest thing there will ever be to a Branstad on the Colts. I know its unrealistic but I do hope he makes the final roster if only for selfish personal reasons.

by Endo on Jun 9, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a Colts fan living in Colorado...

As soon as I heard that the Broncos were cutting this guy, my immediate thought was “please Colts, sign him!”
Dyed-in-the-wool Bronco fans have been saying for the past year that this guy was one of the most underrated players in their organization. Many were calling for him to see some playing time when Orton was injured last year.
From what I’ve seen of him and what I’ve seen of Painter, this guy will find his way to the #2 spot. Bank on it.

"'And worse I may be yet. The worst is not so long as we can say 'This is the worst.'"

by Rube on Jun 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

the fact that the COLTS actually actively claim him via waivers say something...

the Colts already have 4 QBs before claiming him…. and does anybody know if it is customary for the Colts to carry 5 QBs during the off-season?? just curious…

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jun 9, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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