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Are the Colts the deepest team in football heading into 2010 NFL season?

This post is sort of on the heels of Rick Gosselin's article predicting Colts v. Cowboys in Super Bowl 45 at Cowboys Stadium in "North Texas." The primary reason Gosselin picks the Colts to do what no team has done in sixteen years (return to a Super Bowl after losing one) is their depth:

The Colts were the NFL's best team last season with a 14-2 record. Manning was the league's best player, capturing the MVP award a record fourth time.

The Colts reached the Super Bowl despite the absence of Pro Bowl safety Bob Sanders for 17 of the team's 19 games because of a torn biceps muscle. Indianapolis also played 18 games without starting wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez, and starting cornerbacks Marlin Jackson and Kelvin Hayden combined to suit up for only 16 of a possible 38 games.

We've written a lot of stories this off-season about the status of certain player, like Gonzo, Bob, Donald Brown, etc. It's interesting that, in many cases, our discussions about these players have been so heated, so charged with fan passion, you'd think that we were talking about a team that was searching for a key starter at a position of need.

Instead, the players we've been chatting about are, essentially, reserves.

This speaks to how potentially deep this Colts squad is at several key positions. While up-and-coming clubs like the Kansas City Chiefs are still searching for a go-to receiver, a running back, consistent quarterback play, a pass rush, and better interior defensive tackle play, the things we are talking about are fourth wide receiver, fourth corner, kick returner, and punt returner.

When you look up and down this roster, you see a pretty damn deep corps of talented players. But, how deep? The deepest in football? Is this Colts team better than last years? We discuss after the jump.

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All off-season, we've had readers like Jamkel providing us articles collectively breaking down the Colts roster. They provide a good starting point for this discussion.  For me, you can look at other teams and, potentially, find more talent at X or Y position over the Colts, but when you look at the over-all roster, the Colts seem to tower over the rest of the league in terms of real depth.

We hear this a lot, but the reason we do is because there is truth in the statement: It all starts with Peyton Manning.

He is the linchpin for the entire team. Without him, the house crumbles. Yes, players like Reggie Wayne, Dwight Freeney, and Gary Brackett are important. But, everyone (including many coaches) takes their lead from Manning. This is a completely different football team without him.

With other positions, we have lots of Colts fans taking an even stronger interest in Donald Brown this year as opposed to last year (his rookie year). My thoughts are that Brown has more to prove than Joseph Addai does. Brown's rookie year was not all that stellar; too many injuries and too much inconsistent play. He has tremendous talent, but too often last year we saw him make mental mistakes. Sometimes, those mistakes produced some rather humorous audio from Peyton Manning:

But with Brown, we are still talking about a reserve player. Joseph Addai is the starter, heading into a contract year. The team also has solid veteran Mike Hart and an interesting rookie prospect in Javarris James (Edgerrin James' cousin). Right now, the position is three-deep.

We've talked far too much a ton about the wide receivers. The corps is five deep, and with players like Dudley Guice and Blair White possibly offering a bit more size to the group, it might be six-deep.

And like the receivers, the tight ends are a pretty talented group. Dallas Clark is the best tight end in football. I'll continue to shout that from the mountains tops until my lungs burst. No other tight end in football offers more big-play ability. Newly included into this group is Brody Eldridge, who seemed to really impress coaches and Peyton Manning during OTAs. Additional players like Tom Santi, Jacob Tamme, and Gijon Robinson are all quality players who have had issues staying healthy. Santi seems to offer the most well-rounded options at the positions among the three. Tamme is the better special teams player of the group, and he is also the emergency long-snapper. Regardless of who sticks around, each and every one of these guys has contributed to this team in big games in the past. Prior to getting hurt last year, Tom Santi was starting to really showcase some talent.

The offensive line has questions at the guard spots, but that's not because they don't have anyone to play the positions. The team has seven guards on the roster, not including Charlie Johnson (who once started at guard in 2008) and Tony Ugoh (who the Colts worked at guard during OTAs). Some of these guards are free agents like Andy Alleman or high draft picks like Mike Pollak. There is some pretty significant talent here. The question is who will stick around.

The Colts d-line is the fourth best in football, according to Yahoo! Sports' Jason Cole. The addition of rookie defensive end Jerry Hughes make the pass rush scary good in terms of talent. Unlike years past, there is significant investment in quality defensive tackle talent via the draft with players like Fili Moala and Ricardo Mathews. This depth is in addition to quality starters like Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir.

Speaking of Moala, a light seems have turned on inside his noggin this off-season. In case you've forgotten how good he could potentially be:

The linebacker corps is so deep that Bill Polian used a second round pick on a back-up linebacker and didn't think twice about it. Pat Angerer is designated as Gary Brackett's back-up. This move was done because Polian does not want a repeat of what happened to the team when Brackett went down at the tail end of the 2008 season. Second year player Cody Glenn offers some speed and pop at weakside reserve backer. He was initially drafted by the Redskins, but was cut after camp last year. The Colts scooped him up, and I know of more than a few Redskins fans who are upset Glenn was let go. I, personally, am intrigued by the size and speed of Vuna Tuihalamaka, the collegiate free agent out of Arizona.

Depth in the secondary is a concern, but not "doomsday"-level. Jacob Lacey is a high quality back-up DB with game experience. With Bob Sanders returning to the starting line-up, we might see more of Melvin Bullitt as the dime DB. Rookie Ray Fisher offers some talent as a cover man, and the Colts seem to feel good about Terrail Lambert. Of all the areas on this team, the cornerback spot in the secondary has the least depth, and by depth I mean talent and experience. Players like Lambert, Fisher, and Brandon King offer talent, but not much gameday experience.

When you look around the league at other teams, they may have better depth at specific positions, but I don't know if I see better overall depth throughout the entire roster. Obviously, in early-July, it's hard to know who will pan out, who will get hurt, and how both will affect team performance. But, as articles like Gosselin's suggestion, if there is one team that really looks like it's ready to reach another Super Bowl, it's the Colts.

They are loaded with talent at several very key positions.

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Do you consider the Colts the deepest team heading into training camp for the 2010 NFL season
Yes, loads of talent at all the key positions
313 votes
Sort of, areas like corner, offensive tackle, and free safety concern me
249 votes
No, teams like the Saints, Cowboys, Jets, and Ravens offer more overall depth
38 votes

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Chris Polian too

He has had much more involvement with the roster this season than in years past.

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by Brad Wells on Jul 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that my first ever fanpost here last year was about the amazing depth

and it has only gotten better.

That is the reason that we could make the Super Bowl with a whole stable of injuries. We have a stable back-up at every position on the field. We go 4 deep at receiver, we have a quality (i’m guessing) third DE. We have good motors at DT. I think we might be a little thin at LB, but in reality, this is the deepest team out there.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Think only thin at CB depth, Otherwise fine

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by bayone on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Colts always find guys. The CBs have really never been the problem in our losses

the pass rush has, orthe unexplanable (Brackett out in the SD game in 2008) has. Guys like Lacey just seem to come naturally to the Colts at this point. I mean, we beat the eventual Super Bowl Champs in their building with Tim Jennings and Kiewann Ratliff as the starting corners in 2008.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Jul 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teams always ran on us then, they may now test the CBs more as more QB driven now

What I wouldnt give for a good low draft choice but not at the sake of aa losing season, but thats what lets other teams rebuild

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by bayone on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ONE BIG OMISSION!!

We don’t have depth at the QB position…. If Peyton goes own in the playoffs, we are done done and done!! 1972 Dolphins has an extremely good backup QB so when Bob Griese went down, they were still winning!!

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by Manning4ever on Jul 1, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I share your intrigue with Vuna Takawammabamma

Dude looks like a whirling dervish on his hilight reel.

by tim55 on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm scared about DEs

Obviously Freeney and Mathis are the best DE combo in football but when Freeney faded out in the second half of the Super Bowl the pass rush fell off in a hurry. I’m excited about Jerry Hughes but he’s still a rookie. Here’s hoping the DTs can continue to improve and make some opportunities for the LBs.

Freeney has made some amazing comebacks from injury but I wonder how much longer he can keep that up in such a physically demanding position.

But I guess that shows how spoiled I am, that I can be worried about how an injury to the #1 guy drops the talent level at that position from amazing to merely average…

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by szquirrel on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the addition of Hughes will get both Freeney and Mathis some blow time.

IF he develops as planned. If he becomes a force, I also wonder if Freeney will wind up in a center gap once in a while. Three wild ass pass rushers, with one in the middle now and then just to give the center a nervous breakdown……..

by tim55 on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we replace Dawson

We’ll be in good shape at DE.

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by bamock on Jul 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who has a better DE roster than the colts????? I can't name one team, can anyone else?

I think we are good as can be on DE. No other team I can think of has two top DE (if not the two best overall), plus a good rookies prospect, plus one or two okay DE likes Dawson. Most teams have maybe one great DE and an okay one on the other side and in reserve. Can anyone name a team with a better DE roster?

by smits07 on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't consider this a deep team at all...

I think that has been the Colts primary downfall over the years, lack of depth. I would say this is a well balanced team. 1-22 on the roster are all good players, with several super stars. There are very few starters who are not in that good-great category. The problem is, and has always been, 23-53. Losing starters at a key position leaves us scrambling because the cap dollars and talent are so top heavy. Our top two CBs are solid and Lacey is servicable, but after that we have absolutely nothing. If we lost Bethea, do we have anything even resembling a servicable FS to take his place? Clark at TE? Any of the LB spots (possible exclusion of Angerer)? OL? QB (knock on wood)? Perhaps i’m splitting hairs here with the terminology, but there’s a reason that we get taken behind the woodshed during the pre-season. Our backups are not as good as other teams’ backups. We are good; and balanced, but not deep.

by invisibulman on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point, we never have depth at QB. I’ve always thought the team should be a little bit more solid and deep in the O-line because of this. Colts still overall go cheap on that. But the O-line turned out to be awesome last year despite their cheapness. The years before that though they had trouble with injuries in O-line and their lack of depth hurt them big time.

Good point on Clark too. No one can replace his skill. But don’t forget about Tamme. He would do a half ass job at replacing him, and with their deep reciever core they could survive a few games with out clark. It would still be hard though.

Definitely agree on LB depth! I’ve already stated my opinion on that though.

by smits07 on Jul 1, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO... the following players are SOLID or better...

And for the heck of it, SOLID in my mind is someone who would not scare me if they had to carry a load for a time during the season.

Manning
Addai
Brown
Wayne
Garcon
Collie
Gonzalez
Diem
DeVan
Saturday
Johnson
Ugoh
Pollak
Clark
Santi
Tamme
Johnson
Muir
Foster
Freeney
Mathis
Powers
Lacey
Hayden
Bethea
Bullitt
Sanders
Session
Brackett
Wheeler
Vinatieri
Snow
McAfee

That is 33 players, includes no players site-unseen, and is pretty stingy in my opinion for solid or starting-caliber if needed.

The following players are most likely solid, should they be needed but primarily for lack of experience and tape for me to give a developed argument.

Hart
Eldridge
Terry
Moala
Hughes
Angerer
Silva
McClendon
Robinson

That is 42 of 53 players. That would likely fill in fine as a starter or temporary starter should they be needed. 1 QB, 3 RBs, 4 WRs, 4 TEs, 3 OTs, 2 Cs, 4 Gs, 3 DEs, 4 LBs, 4 DTs, 3 CBs, 4 Safeties, 1 K, 1 P, 1 LS.

The players who I feel will also prove they deserve to be at least on the second list include:

Humber
Glenn
Lambert
White
Conner
M. King
Baldwin
Alleman
Giguere

Those guys make 51/53. I don’t think all of these guys will make the team. I also think there are a number of guys who are not on this list like Thad Turner, John Chick, Brandon King, Mike Newton, David Caldwell, Jordan Hemby, Ricardo Mathews, Brandon James, or Dudley Guice who I think have some real promise and potential. We shall see but I am VERY comfortable with where we are depth-wise minus MAYBE deep corner depth, deep linebacker depth, and deep offensive line depth.

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by bamock on Jul 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Needless to say my list is shorter.

I would remove Ugoh, Pollack, Santi and Tamme. I have no fiath in them to fill in adequatelty. Foster and Lacey are both good spot players, but I would question their ability to be full time starters. Of the rookies, Hughs and Angerer might be able to fill in if needed. So, I guess I’m left with 29/53 players that I trust to hold up every Sunday.

by invisibulman on Jul 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We'll throw out our differences in confidence...

And just go with, based upon your talent assessment and the level you require, how many do you think we should field and how many teams have more than 29?

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by bamock on Jul 1, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

One final word on the differences though...

I do expect drop-offs from many of the players I listed from the starters but in almost every case that is unavoidable. But I see those players, should they need to fill in for a starter as not being weaknesses that would ruin our chances to be successful. I guess I just don’t know what people “expect” when it comes to the depth.

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by bamock on Jul 1, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

For most part I agree, there will be drop offs from starters

The degree that affects the team depends on what starter is hurt, WE have no other TE Like Clark and Defenses have to scheme against him, Same with WAYNE . God Forbib Peyton

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by bayone on Jul 1, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

all good points, Clark would be a dramatic lose, hes so hard to cover

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by bayone on Jul 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colts have great depth overall, still not thrilled about the LB depth chart

Overall, the colts do have awesome depth! The one big place I’ve never been real thrilled about is their linebacker situations. I mean Gary bracket is an all time stud. And I’m excited to see what Pat Angerer brings to the LB position. I’m not a big Wheeler fan or Sessions fan. They are growing on me though and slowely getting better. I think sessions lacks speed to keep up with TE and WRs. But he is superprisingly strong and can pack a punch. Plus, other than these starters they don’t have anyone worth noting that I’ve been impressed by. Never watched Vuna Takawammabamma. If he is interesting as you say, I’ll have to keep an eye on him! Overall, I think the outside linebacker postiion is one that needs better quality and depth.

by smits07 on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, the team's pretty well stocked

If somoene held a gun to my head and say “Choose the positions without depth”, I’d have to qualify anything I say with the word “relatively”. If you talk TE, for example, there’s little there who’s proven other than Clark, but what more do you need at that position? There’s damn good potential there, and as BBS said, Santi was getting some glances. On top of that, newly drafted Eldrige is turning some heads.

Corner? Sure, that’s the legitimate choice. But with Hayden, Powers, and Lacey there they’re only hurting a little bit. A fourth corner would make things better, but if it were only those three plus some schmuck, I don’t think the Colts would be hurting that bad at all. They’ve gone pretty damn far with lesser corners, like Jason David, before, and David started.

Linebacker? Sure, another legitimate nomination. I’m not convinced that Wheeler is anything other than servicible, but the Colts didn’t do a bad job at all against the run last season. The line plus the backers must have been doing something right. Plus, nobody in their right mind would complain about Brackett and Session being on the field. I’d feel more comfortable if there were more players there, but the starting three works just fine. If Wheeler ups his game, I’d elevate my opinion to very good.

My point here is the same as BBS’s and everyone elses: Lacking depth is a relative concept for this team. Thankfully! It’s an honest concern, given that a player going down suddenly creates a productivity problem, but that’s stating the obvious. In the days of the 53 man regular season roster and the 45-player game day rule, it’s impossible to be deep everywhere. What the Colts have done – which is find acceptible starters for damn near every position while lacking glaring depth at any position – is amazing in that light.

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by E.M.H. on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think there’s a team in the NFL that’s been assembled with the kind of talent across the roster like the Colts have. Most of that has to do with success in the draft.

This team is deep. Even with what happened in XLIV, barring a devastating injury, I’d say the Colts should be prohibitive favorites for the SB this year.

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by MonkeyBusiness on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

On paper

I don’t see a team in the AFC that should beat the Colts on the way to the SB.

But I have said that many times in the past and it hasn’t panned out the way I hoped it would. Health is the key as it always seems to be.

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by AceOfSpades on Jul 1, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will weep for Joy...Colts winning SB

I will weep for joy if the colts win the SB this time. I do not want to jinx them or anything, every season starts out this way . We the fans know this team is great and has an amazing work ethic . Peyton deserves to win his second one.

I still cringe at the missed route by Reggie in last year’s SB and have a hard time defending Peyton from haters.

Thanks for cheering me up BBS with this article. I really really really hope we make it back to the SB.

by Horseshoe_Tsunami on Jul 1, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

same here....

if they make it to the SB this year… I will forfeit my vuittons, Chanels, Guccis etc to go watch the game….
or maybe get a part-time job…. or something….

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by Manning4ever on Jul 1, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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