Curtis Painter: Most improved Colts player in 2010?
Take this for what it's worth, but on the Friday night radio show "The Heavyweights," hosts Jeffery Gorman, Joe Staysniak, and Will Wolford talk Colts football. The show is on WIBC, where Staysniak is an employee. Gorman and Wolford are employees of the Colts. Anyway, last Friday, Gorman and Wolford were chatting about Colts back-up quarterback Curtis Painter. The show had a Painter interview recorded and ran the interview later in the broadcast.
The substance of Gorman and Wolford's Painter chat focused on just how much the Purdue prospect had improved this off-season.
As we all know, the old adage is that an NFL player makes the biggest jump from year one to year two. The reason people say this is because, typically, after one year your brain and body get adjusted to NFL life. Thus, by year two, your talent should start paying dividends on the football field.
Since 2003, we've seen big "year two" jumps from players like Pierre Garcon, Dallas Clark, and Robert Mathis.
Last year, the Colts had a pretty impressive haul of rookies. Many of those rookies contributed big time to the Colts Super Bowl run. How those rookies "jump" from year one to year two has been something dorks like me will most certainly watch for at camp in three weeks.
However, if Gorman and Wolford are to be believed (and since they are Colts employees, they are obviously going to be a bit biased), it seems that the 2009 rookie who has improved quite a bit from year one to year two is Curtis Painter.
This is Gorman talking to Wolford on the show last Friday:
Gorman: You watch this. You're going to be up in the booth this year, this season, with Bob Lamey and I'm just telling you this much, we got the best in the business at the quarterback in Peyton Manning [but] Curtis Painter [is] making huge strides from his first to second year. I know you're like, Why are you talking about the back-up quarterback?
Wolford: He was baptized by fire last year. I tell you what, it's amazing. You learn from experience, and he got some experience. Good or bad, he got it. The improvement you make from your first to second year is the most improvement you'll ever make in your career.
It's never fun to talk about the back-up quarterback spot, especially when your starter is a living legend. But, with Jim Sorgi jettisoned this off-season (and now backing up Eli Manning), Painter is now the unquestioned back-up QB.
Two years ago, while at Purdue, Painter showed the kind of talent and ability that teams look for in a starting quarterback. He can put zip on the ball, make the 15-yard out throws, and has a pretty good deep ball. With Painter, it was always the mental aspect of the game that provided the biggest obstacle.
If Gorman and Wolford are correct, maybe Curtis has overcome his mental hurdles and has developed into the kind of talent many people thought he would. We'll find out fairly soon. The first pre-season game, against the 49ers, is August 15th at Lucas Oil Stadium.
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How much is greatly improved?
Will his passer rating make it in to double digits?
"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning
by P0RKINS2 on Jul 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
LOL.
When you’re at the very bottom, there’s nowhere to go but up!
/heh
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 13, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe...
He’ll be running the Wildcat with Peyton split out in Reggie Wayne’s place! Hmmmm….
Actually, all kidding aside, if we did do that, wouldn’t it be hilarious to use it 100 times against the Dolphins this year? Payback. (actually, I can’t recall if we play the Dolphins this year)
We don't play the Dolphins
unless we both make it to the playoffs
How can you not love a team that does this?
good point
the other way to interpret your comment – I try hard to remember that I’m not actually ON the team, LOL
How can you not love a team that does this?
Oh I'm sure he'll be running...
Ha. Ha. I made a funny. OK, perhaps I’m the only one laughing; it’s one of those days.
I do wish him the best, but I still can’t get those images out of my head. We might have pulled it out with Sorgi. All moot now.
by TouchdownMonkey on Jul 13, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Curtis Painter vs. The Perfect Season and the Perfect Blizzard
The moments when he was called on during the regular season were so wacky – trying to keep a perfect streak alive, and during a freakin blizzard – that its hard to know what the kid can really do.
I vaguely remember that he looked decent against Detroit in the pre-season, but I really don’t know…
How do you measure improvement when you don’t really know what someone is capable of?
I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work ... I suspect its a bit like fucking, which is only fun for amateurs. -Hunter Thompson
by RockyRippleColtsFan on Jul 13, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions
Polian said they're going to play Painter...
…with a blindfold “just for fun.”
by Richard Hill on Jul 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LOL
He might play better that way…hm….
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure he'll have more TD passes this year.
Only problem is they’ll be for the other team.
/hates Purdue kids
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I hope he's not the most improved
just because ideally the most improved player would be one that we are actually hoping to see on the field.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Word. Just word.
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Thank You!
We need Devan to be the most improved… or Ugoh (to replace Lilja at LG), maybe…
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
it sux that the most improved player is a backup qb
I was hoping, it was Fili Miola or an O-lineman.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
Seriously.
But, we still have TC!!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jul 13, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone mentioned Sorgi (aka "ol' Noodle Arm)
Have you seen any film of Sorgi’s college career? He was a BAD QB. Really bad. Painter was much better, but the stat that scares me, his TD record nearly equals his INT record. But, if he is really improved, there are a couple of games where the Colts could always use him. 16 & 17 Yeah, I know. 1 is better than 0, which is what his NFL TD record is. I think for those two games last year, his INT record is 2.
I listened to the interview...
And read the quote and don’t really understand where you get any impression whatsoever that Curtis Painter is the most improved or even improved at all. Wolford actually seems to go out of his way to not specifically cite Painter when he says:
The improvement you make from your first to second year is the most improvement you’ll ever make in your career
He doesn’t mention that Painter is the one making those improvements he is making a generalized statement about football players in general. In fact, it seems he’s glossing over Gorman saying Painter’s making “huge strides” by saying, “yeah, between the first and second year guys usually do a lot of improving” which is kind of a duh statement.
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"yeah, between the first and second year guys usually do a lot of improving"
this sort of blah statement is exactly what we’ve come to expect from the colts.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I just don't see it...
I just don’t see CP really making it as an NFL QB, much less, the replacement for Peyton Manning. Is there room for him to improve…well, with how ghastly he looked last year, is there any question? I’m tired of the comments saying CP got a bad rap, getting thrown to the wolves and all. That’s just horse manure. You get your chances, and you go out and make the most of them. Stop making excuses. CP stunk! There isn’t a QB in the Colts back-up corral, including CP, that would lead the Colts to anything better than 6 and 10, and even there, they’d need some lucky breaks. As for the video with this article, hard to find a pass in the selection that was really “on target.”

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