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Manning and Brady contract negotiations holding up extensions for other QBs

When I was at an event for the 2010 NFL Draft, I bumped into Giants running back Brandon Jacobs. He got angry with me. There was some pushing and shoving until finally I lost my cool and started using my level three Kung Fu skills on the 6'4, 264 pound back. After a few minutes of me painting his face all over the crowd, security pried me off Jacobs and escorted me to the door.

OK, everything in that above paragraph was a lie, save me bumping into Brandon Jacobs. That I did do. Instead of engaging me in mortal combat, Brandon was kind enough to chat about the NFC East. We chewed the fat about the upcoming season, the draft, and the Giants overall. Pleasant guy. Easy to talk to. I asked him about Donovan McNabb getting traded from the Eagles to the Redskins.

Jacobs' mood changed quickly after that question.

He shook his head in disgust and talked to me about how completely disrespectful it was of the Eagles to trade McNabb within the division. From the conversation, I got the strong sense that most NFC players very much respect McNabb, and there is a feeling that Eagles management acted like @ssholes in their treatment of him this off-season.

I mention all this because McNabb, like many other NFL players, is looking for a new, fat paycheck before all this "lock-out" stuff starts messing up the works. The problem is McNabb can't get that paycheck, and the reasons are named Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.

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As respected as someone like McNabb is among his peers, Manning and Brady dominate the upper echelon of quarterbacks in the NFL. Some say Drew Brees is up there now, but I disagree. Last year was a great season for Brees and the Saints, but he's never won a league MVP and he's only taken the Saints to the playoffs twice in his four year career with them. Manning and Brady have quarterbacked their teams to the playoffs every season since 2003, and have played in five Super Bowls, winning three.*

Like McNabb, Big P and Tommy Terrific are in the final year of their contracts. The teams they play for are waiting for the other to make a move on contract negotiations. The Patriots are secretly hoping the Colts sign Manning to the mega-deal everyone expects first so that they gave give Tom a slightly less deal. But, until both players have those deals, it is impossible for Donovan McNabb's new team, the Redskins, to give him the extension he very much wants. Like Manning and Brady, McNabb is now in his 30s, and this extension will likely be the last big payday of his career.

The Mega Manning Money Deal is a sub-plot of the 2010 season that we plan to follow closely. This deal will likely be the biggest contract in sports history, and it will send shock-waves through not just the NFL, but sports globally.

*I'm discounting 2008 (a season where the Pats missed the playoffs) because Brady went down in Week One with a knee injury. No reason to hold that season against Tommy.

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So wait... The Patriots want to hold out on their deal so they can pay Brady less?

Maybe I’m just being stupid, but I’d think that as soon as Manning gets whatever he wants, Brady would want more? Is that not how Eli got his payday? I mean, unless we are talking in the sense that the Patriots are high-balling a number right now with Brady, and they are hoping Manning takes less then that, allowing them to sign Brady for less than that astronomic price they’d been thinking.

I don’t know. I’m probably just getting myself confused on the topic.

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by Jamkel on Jul 2, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Patriots

Pats management knows that Brady is not on the same level as Manning, but they obviously do not want to convey that publicly because it will embarrass Tom. Realistically, Brady can’t ask for more than Peyton because Peyton’s accomplishments dwarf Brady’s. Schmucks will throw out the three Super Bowls, but everyone knows the Patriots defense had more to do with those than Brady’s quarterbacking. since the defense has regressed, the Patriots have not won a Super Bowl. Peyton’s also won a league-record 4 MVPs. Brady has one.

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by Brad Wells on Jul 2, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Colts and Manning are in possibly the most unenviable position possible.

On one side, you have Jim Irsay, who wants to give his star quarterback the biggest contract in NFL history. They have a great relationship, and want to get it done.

On the other side, you have Peyton Manning, who is the quarterback of a team that can win a Super Bowl now and cement his legacy as the greatest ever.

Unfortunately, in the middle you have the other owners and the NFLPA, who will use Manning’s contract as leverage against one side or the other.

Without a new CBA, it’s nearly impossible to give Manning a new contract, because it could screw you under a new salary cap.

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by MonkeyBusiness on Jul 2, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt they’ll give Peyton the biggest contract in sports history. Right now it belongs to Alex Rodriguez at $275,000,000 over 10 years.

Right now the biggest NFL contract ever is Michael Vick’s $130,000,000 over 10 years. But we know how that turned out.

by JoeMama123 on Jul 2, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Ummm

P. Manning, E. Manning, and Rothelisberger all got deals ranging from $95 million to $110 million over 5-6 years….which trumps Vicks contract….

As for Rodriguez’s contract…..it’s not a fair comparison when you factor in the fact they play 162 games just in the regular season…..

by DevilsReject on Jul 2, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is right to point it out though as BBS did say

“Biggest contract in Sporting History”.

Ill agree that it isn’t a valid comparison to compare NFL and MLB contracts but he was fine pointing that one out.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 2, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Globally?

You meant in the whole world or just in America? Maybe I’m being stupid right now but I don’t think that a football mega-deal will affect any future contracts outside the US

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by trOOly on Jul 2, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 2, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually disagree

I don’t have the #‘s in front of me, but I would bet that other athletes of similar staus in their repsective sports pointed to Alex Rodriguez’s contract as a measure of what elite talent is worth.

I’m not too familiar with sports outside of the US but I would bet that outside of soccer there aren’t any real high paid athletes that make the type of money that top level athletes in the NFL, NBA and MLB make. But that could be my typical American attitude shining through.

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by ZayJack on Jul 2, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is your typical American attitude

but at least you admit it

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by ColtsUK on Jul 3, 2010 8:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Manning and Brady’s deals have nothing to do with McNabb’s. Everyone is just using that as an excuse for the real reason, which is that the Skins want to see how badly he sucks this year in Washington before they waste any money on him.

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by willyduer on Jul 2, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

this

"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
-Peyton Manning

by ZayJack on Jul 2, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will be the "Biggest in Sports History"

…but I’m not talking about the biggest $$ contract. Football is king in the US and extremely popular all around the globe. The Redskins can’t give McNabb a contract because they don’t yet know his value. The values of these awaiting contracts can’t be set till Manning signs, then it all trickle’s down from there. It shows that one single player sets the scale in the NFL. The world see’s and admits that he is the biggest Football God that we have ever seen. Also, he’s on our team.

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by Firebird on Jul 2, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

football isn’t extremely popular around the world

its not popular around the world at all only in the US

And the world has never heard of Peyton never mind ‘admit that he’s the biggest football god ’

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by ColtsUK on Jul 4, 2010 4:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, you can say that Brees is not an elite QB

But I bet you he would rather win the Super-bowl MVP than the league MVP. He is nowhere near as great as Manning, you can tell by the amount of commercials. Brees set the accuracy record last year, Manning ate oreos faster. How can Brees hope to compete with that. Brees almost broke the single season record for yards in 2008 held by Marino, but he was a few yards short so no MVP, he didn’t deserve it. Maybe some day when Manning retires and moves back to New Orleans Brees will be considered for a MVP, but I doubt it.

I think the only way he will get a league MVP is if he wins 3 more Superbowls or starts playing for a team with a larger market.

Disclaimer: Manning did deserve consideration for last years MVP, but so did Bret Favre and Drew Brees. The tragedy is that the player that deserved it, Chris Johnson, did not win it.

PS: Brees has taken the Saints to the playoffs twice in 4 seasons, as you said. He has taken them to the championship game every time they made the playoffs.The Saints have had the best offence in the NFL 3 out of 4 years under Brees. They finally have a defense. The Saints secondary will be better this year, see ya in Dallas if y’all make it. Is it too early for trash talking?

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by DrWhoDat on Jul 2, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Dallas the Saints will not go .......

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by Manning4ever on Jul 2, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

...home without winning their second Lombardi.

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by DrWhoDat on Jul 3, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah in your dreams.....

many many many nights of dreams….anyhow… enjoy your fantasy season!

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by Manning4ever on Jul 3, 2010 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

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by dmstorm22 on Jul 4, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha... good answer good answer.....

I wish i was that witty…

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by Manning4ever on Jul 4, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correction... before Cass finds out....

I wish I were that witty

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by Manning4ever on Jul 4, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

um. i think you were right the first time.

When the subject is singular: I was, she was, he was…

When the subject is plural: You were, they were, we were…

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by teej813 on Jul 4, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, i really don't care and don't know any more....

as long as I don’t incur the wrath of Cass….. i will just go with whatever is appropriate on this blog. I remember if it is hypothetical mood and if it is something that would never happen, then “I” is paired with “were” instead of “was”, based on the numerous Garmmar classes we had during elementary school (equivalent to junior high here). Mind you those are British English Grammar classes…. and my memory may not serve me well….. so my goal is just hope most people can understand me and I don’t make colossal mistakes…..

Thanks so much teej!! ummm…. can we have the Houston game recap now….? please please please pretty please??

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by Manning4ever on Jul 5, 2010 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You Are Correct

Please Read My 1st paragraph of profile to realize my multiple disabilities making it hard to type correctly if there are many typos etc

by bayone on Jul 5, 2010 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

MEANT TO SAY teej is correct

Please Read My 1st paragraph of profile to realize my multiple disabilities making it hard to type correctly if there are many typos etc

by bayone on Jul 5, 2010 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a tidbit....


and I am sure there may be more discussions on this choice of words. I will in the meantime, stick with what I learned in grammar classes… Honestly language is constantly changing and adapting. If people use language in a certain way long enough, most certainly the new usage will become acceptable. And I don’t even want to get into language evolution and tranformation…. my major is theoretical linguistics and that IS a head-spinning fun subject, eh (just learned this… from other fans)….Thanks guys!!

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by Manning4ever on Jul 5, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

ok... link fail....

Here you go again….

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Jul 5, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

another link

a shorter description….
Just want to let teej and Bayone know that I am trying to verify what I learned is correct. I believe I am correct in my memory. I have utmost respect for both of you and please do not think that my putting out the links here for any reasons other than confirming what i learned. You two are in fact my two favorites on this blog!! :) love u guys!!

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by Manning4ever on Jul 5, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. Thanks, M4! Interesting stuff.

Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.

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by teej813 on Jul 5, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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