Pro Football Focus: Colts Ranked #2 to start 2010 season
by BigBlueShoe on Jul 30, 2010 5:33 PM EDT
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From PFF:
2. Indianapolis Colts
They may lack talent in a number of positions but for their team to work they need an elite, out-of-this-world quarterback and a fearsome pass rush. Check and check. It's a formula that has worked for so long for the Colts that we know that it gets them into the playoffs and to a Super Bowl (which this writer contends would have been very different if Dwight Freeney was completely healthy). Nothing has happened this offseason to suggest the Colts shouldn't be the team to beat in the AFC.
I'd kind of like to know where the Colts lack talent at "a number of positions." I like PFF and I think they do a good job overall, but the Colts are loaded with talent at a number of positions.
In fact, they might be the most talented team in football.
From the wideouts to the running backs to the linebackers to the d-line, the Colts are stacked with quality depth. I could go through each position, compare it to other teams, and make my point that way. Instead, I'll just keep this quick and say players like Anthony Gonzalez would be starters on most other team. Jerry Hughes, likely a reserve pass rusher for the Colts in 2010, would start for many other teams. Other key reserves like Donald Brown, Austin Collie, Pat Angerer, and Melvin Bullitt are all starting-caliber players who happen to be back-ups for the Colts.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand that "lack talent in a number of positions" remark. It just sounds... well, it sounds ignorant and uninformed. In general, PFF is not ignorant and uninformed. Thus, the statement is odd.
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Anthony Gonzalez is a reserve?
He’s twice the receiver Garcon is, so why would be a reserve if he’s healthy?
Since when did this become gospel? Training camp hasn’t even started yet.
let's please not go down this road again.
the horse is dead!
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
just don't, dude.
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
well, there are plenty of such places without great talent.
pretty much the entire offensive line, as well as defensive tackle. and while we do have a talented secondary, it isn’t a very deep unit. also, special teams is still a huge question mark outside of mcafee. hopefully some rookies step up on punt and kick returns, but it’s very fair to say that we have some areas of concern. thankfully they are much fewer in number and lesser in importance than many teams, but they exist nonetheless. so the comment from PFF of the “lack talent in a number of positions” is neither ignorant nor uninformed.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
what makes you think
Hughes and angerer are starters? I mean, I hope they are, but let’s not crown them too quickly.
by Bobeo on Jul 30, 2010 6:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah, that seemed a little premature to me as well
And even Donald Brown—he seems fast and likeable and smart, and we’re glad to have a potential one-two punch that worked so well in the 2006 playoffs, but we also remember the “Goddammit Donald!” moment.
I’d keep the crown on the shelf for him as well. I’d quote Harvey Keiten from Pulp Fiction, but it’s a family website….
Personally, I think the comment that we have talent gaps in a bunch of places is a compliment. The context is they were a SB team last year and are the team to beat this year, so they are excellent and have a ton of talent, but there ARE gaps. (He’s human after all!) It’s like saying Scarlett Johansen has toes that are too long. It’s not saying she’s a beast—far from it. The implication is she’s perfect except for the long toes. Likewise, the Colts are world-beaters except for a few gaps that they usually cover up for anyway.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Thats what i want to know as well
The Colts are always revered as having some of the best group of safeties in the league. The talent at that position is stacked
Oh, and the positions that the general football watching public sees us as lacking talent?
I’d say the OL in general and it’s hard to argue with the shift that’s taken place this year or the running stats the past two. Most people credit 18 for the low sack totals. 63 is steady and wifdely recognized as excellent, but our recent draft disappointments and the high number of UDFAs suggest a bit of a weak link.
RBs have performed poorly in traditional stats past couple years, but I think most serious fans see that as a result of the line and not the RBs, but who knows? the 32nd and 31st ranked run games the past couple years? Some people need no more info than that to start a bonfire and throw a couple men on it.
DT—they were actually pretty good last year, but they’re no-names who suffer from our old Spinal Tap curse, at least in terms of public perception. They are the filler in the Freeney/Mathis sandwich—perception-wise.
LBs—These guys are just disrespected and underappreciated in general. Brackett should have 2 pro bowls under his belt, and Session is a monster. Wheels is new and depth is sketchy, so I could see this as a point of complaints from general fans. No pro bowlers like we seem to have everywhere else, therefore a weakness.
CBs: I love our young guys, but we’ve had our share of injuries and fill-ins and the kids have no rep yet, so like our LBs they are very effective, but unheralded. Could well change this year. Guys like Revis and Asomugha will get all the press, but our guys are fine if underappreciated.
So I could certainly understand people saying we have talent gaps there, even if their only criteria is “I haven’t heard of these guys” or “they’re not pro bowlers.” Give the CB rookies some time to develop skills and reps, and they’ll be feared far and wide. For the LBs… Brackett is probably on the downward slope by now and if he did not get much league-wide recognition yet, he never will. For which I’ll forever be resentful.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Uh oh... Bobby Boucher just read your post.
And he’s comin fer ya!
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Fair assessment
I agree with this being a fair assessment. Great summary by “Bobman”. I think they hit it on the head. Our 3 “weak” areas on this team are the DTs, LBs and CBs. I would also toss RBs in there, however I believe Joe Addai is going to have a pro bowl season this year and hopefully we will see a little more flash and power from both Brown and Hart.
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