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The steady decline of the Colts offensive line

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Look, let's not sugarcoat this: Bill Polian is not all that great at drafting high-quality, All-Pro level offensive linemen.

Yes, I know he can draft good utility linemen, and clearly that is not something one should just dismiss. "Glue guys" are often just as important as star players; sometimes more so. Without Charlie Johnson in 2006, the Colts probably do not win Super Bowl 41. Johnson was a nice, utility tackle-guard who had to come in for Ryan Diem during the Super Bowl. Charlie played much of the game, and the story goes that he played so well that Peyton Manning didn't even notice the change until two or three series in.

Also, consider players like Kyle DeVan, a free agent last year from Arena II football. Like CJ, he is a nice utility player. Throw in stalwarts like Jeff Saturday (undrafted free agent, 1999), and one-time guard Ryan Lilja (undrafted, 2003) and one can see that Polian is certainly not terrible at acquiring linemen.

The issue is his recent draft record in acquiring linemen that should be at an All-Pro level based on their pedigree and expectation level. And no, this isn't a "Polian sucks" post. Polian is a draft genius. We all know this. This is about showing the one flaw in Polian's armor: Drafting quality offensive linemen.

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Yes, players like Jake Scott (5th round, 2004) and Ryan Diem (4th round, 2001) have been solid players for the Colts overall. But, Bill Polian has not been able to replace Scott since he left in 2008, and he has failed to truly replace Tarik Glenn, the All-Pro left tackle who protected Peyton Manning's blindside for years. Glenn was drafted prior to Polian's arrival in Indy in 1998. He was a vocal leader for the team, and many players, including defensive end Dwight Freeney, consider him to be one of the league's best offensive linemen when he played.

Since 2007, when Tarik Glenn retired, and later in 2008 when Jake Scott jumped ship to join the Tennessee Titans, Bill Polian has used two high round draft picks (a 1st and 2nd in 2008*) and four lower round picks (6th and 7th in 2008, 7th in 2009, and a 4th rounder this year) on offensive linemen. The jury is still out on 2009 7th rounder Jaimie Thomas and 2010 4th rounder Jacques McClendon, but in general the offensive line draft selections have not worked out.

Not one of those draft picks is a projected starter heading into training camp in 2010.

I realize that players like Jamey Richard have done a fairly decent job subbing for injured stars like Jeff Saturday, but the fact is high picks like Tony Ugoh (2007) and Mike Pollak (2008) were not selected where they are just to be "quality reserves." They were picked to be long-term starters. Both have failed to achieve that status. In fact, both were given the starting jobs and then lost those jobs to players of a lesser draft pedigree. With Ugoh, the failure is so spectacular that the coaches are transitioning him to guard. 

Entering 2010 training camp, I personally feel that Mike Pollak is at greater risk of getting cut in late-August than Tony Ugoh. Like Andy Alleman, Pollak is at a cross-roads in his professional playing career.

It's worth noting that since Glenn retired and Jake Scott moved to Tennessee, we have slowly witnessed a steady decline of the Colts offensive line. Yes, pass blocking has remained solid. Part of that is Peyton Manning being so damn good at getting rid of the football. The other part is having running backs, like Joseph Addai, who are outstanding at blitz pick-up and "chipping."

However, while the pass protection has held up, the rushing numbers have consistently declined since 2007.

The Colts ran for 1,706 yards and a 3.8 yards per carry average in 2007. In 2008, it was 1,274 yards and 3.4 a carry. In 2009, 1,294 yards at 3.5 a carry. Contrast these numbers with the team from 2004-2006, the years Tarik Glenn and Jake Scott were part of this team. In 2004, they ran for 1,852 yards at 4.3 a carry. 2005, 1,703 yards at 3.8 a carry. 2006, 1,762 yards at 4.0 a carry.

This means that from 2004-2006 (with Scott and Glenn), the Colts averaged 1,772 yards a year at 4.0 yards a carry. From 2007-2009 (without Scott and Glenn), the Colts averaged 1,424 yards a season at 3.5 yards a carry.

As we have often said around here, running the ball is secondary to throwing the ball. If running the ball directly translated into winning, the Colts would have beaten the Saints in Super Bowl 44. The reality is it doesn't. Two of the worst rushing teams in the NFL last year (Colts and Chargers) were the two top seeds in the AFC Playoffs.

However, even though running the ball is secondary to the passing game, as Peyton Manning gets older, it will become more and more important for a balanced ground game to work in tandem with the passing game.

We simply cannot rely solely on Peyton chucking the ball all over the place. Since it seems reasonable to assume that Joseph Addai, Donald Brown, and Mike Hart do not suck, the only reason I can think of for the fall off in the running game is Bill Polian's inability to replace Glenn and Scott. Also, age and injuries to other linemen have to get factored into, but part of remedying that is find talent to negate and, possibly, replace players who are old or oft-injured. People here have screamed for two years that Ryan Diem is "done." Jeff Saturday is entering the twilight of his career. Lilja is gone.

Right now, on this roster, who is going to adequately replace these players?

Finding good "glue guys" helps the overall stability of the team, and along the offensive line Bill Polian has done a terrific job finding those guys. But in terms of finding high quality, All-Pro level talent to replace players like Tarik Glenn, Polian has been less than perfect. As a result of him not being able to find high caliber replacements, the numbers for the line have suffered and the team has had to rely more on Manning and the running backs to make something happen.

Going forward, Bill Polian absolutely must find better talent along the offensive line. If you use Pro Football Focus as a rough guide, Charlie Johnson leaves much to be desired as a left tackle, and guards like Mike Pollak seem even worse. Toughness, desire, and being technically sound are all important traits for an offensive lineman. However, without better talent, opponents will continue to control the line of scrimmage against the Colts o-line, forcing Peyton Manning to shoulder more of the offensive load.

Going forward, that is not a sustainable plan for winning.

Here's to hoping guys like CJ, Jacques McLendon, and maybe Adam Terry can infuse this line with a bit more talent. The team is going to need it if they want to pull off the seemingly impossible: Win a Super Bowl one year after losing one.

* A 2008 first round pick was traded by the Colts so they could draft Tony Ugoh in the 2007 NFL Draft.

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sabotaged by success?

Do you think the Colts, who build mainly through the draft, are held back by drafting so late (if at all, some years) in the first round? It seems like you can draft high quality skill-position players all over all 7 rounds of the NFL draft and beyond, but the high quality O- linemen aren’t really there when the Colts get to pick. Even the two or three OTs everyone was all over Polian for not picking had major injury concerns. Are really good O linemen that few and far bewteen?

by naptown_ninja on Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Our picks have consistently been 26+ and we know Polian isn’t going to sell the farm to get a top 10 pick. Soooo….

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by peytonsthebest on Jul 8, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's worth noting that

Tarik Glenn was the #19 pick in the 1997 draft. Also, players like Michael Oher (23rd in 2009) and Sam Baker (21st in 2008) are very good players. You don’t need a top ten pick to get a quality lineman.

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by Brad Wells on Jul 8, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

But what was the last time the Colts drated in the low 20s? It’s time to bite the bullet and trade up into the teens somewhere to find a top quality OT. Looking at our line right now, I dare anyone to name a single player whom they are confident will be starting 2 years from now.

by invisibulman on Jul 8, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

rumor is

that the Colts tried to trade up this year to get Bulaga, but nobody was willing. Then I saw some article the other day about how well he did in OTAs.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Jul 8, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, but.......

Does Polian deserve all the credit for offensive lineman? I gotta beleive that even Polian has input from other “experts” on the Colts payroll. The cream of the offensive linemen are picked up at the top third to half of the first round usually. How long has it been since the Colts were even top 20? I’m not looking for a fight here, I’d love to see the O-line improve, but I doubt that Polian deserves all the credit for good as well as bad choices, there must be input from coaching and scout staffs. Maybe free agents picked up this off season will turn out to be an upgrade. If so, betcha we are all singing praises to the “Polian Genius”.

by tim55 on Jul 8, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tarik Glenn was taken in a draft

That included Orlando Pace and Walter Jones. It is arguable that this was the best tackle class of all time. Tarik Glenn does not go 19th in any other draft. Further the Colts have not drafted that early since 2002.

Along with Ogden taken the year before you are talking about 4 tackles that redefined the position and were some of the best Tackles ever. It is not surprising that Glenn has not been replaced yet.

I don’t necessarily disagree with your point about the Colts line degrading but using the lack of replacement for Glenn as an argument seems to cheapen your argument not augment it.

Finally, every time you right an article grading a draft, or criticizing Polian’s ability, I ask for the same thing. What are your expectations and how does that stack up to the real world? If you can give me some clear objective measure of this and show how it compares to the rest of the league that will go a lot further in convincing me.

by kasey_junk on Jul 8, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

maybe I am not really following you correctly....

and thanks for the info on the OL draft…. however,

lack of replacement for Glenn
is in fact a reason why the OL is not as good especially that Glenn was the LT who protected Peyton’s blind side… Based on my very limited football knowledge, LT seems to be the most important OL position. If you cannot “replace” Glenn with equal or better talent, that logically leads to a “decline”…..

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by Manning4ever on Jul 9, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that Glenn being gone is part of the reason for the decline

I don’t agree that not having found a replacement for Glenn is an argument supporting the supposition that Polian can’t draft offensive lineman.

At the end of the day, when you lose the top OT in franchise history and one of a few revolutionary players at the position, you are going to see a drop off in production.

That doesn’t mean that Polian can’t draft OL players, it means that there aren’t many blue chip OT out there.

by kasey_junk on Jul 9, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

the last sentence....
it means that there aren’t many blue chip OT out there.

is especially true. I remembered during the draft, somebody or Polian said that you cannot draft a top notch OLmen pretty much beyond the top 10. I guess if they go really fast during recent drafts…. or if a team just gets lucky…..

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by Manning4ever on Jul 10, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could we trade Gonzo for an Offensive Lineman like

Tackle Max Starks or Guard Eric Steinbach or Tackle Dennis Roland.

by Coltsdude1000 on Jul 8, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

no no no.....

Gonzo belongs to the Colts…. and Peyton…. and he needs to show why he was Colts’ 1st round pick 2007.

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by Manning4ever on Jul 9, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great article.

One of your best lately, imo.

Also, I agree that draft position isn’t the cause here. We have found good players at other positions late in the first round and in later rounds. For whatever reason, we just don’t seem to do to good of a job finding OL diamonds in the rough. It is really unfortunate we couldn’t trade up to get Bulaga, but I am very happy with Hughes, who we likely wouldn’t have gotten if we traded up.

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by Shi on Jul 8, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm actually more confident in the Oline than the secondary this year...

The offensive line has more depth, more room to work with. They may not be the best in the league, but I think they are a solid group. They can be even better at the run with the potential of Ugoh moving in or if Mclendon can adjust to the system right away as a rookie. The secondary can be the best in the league, however, an injury or two can really set them back. As of right now, the depth is not there at corner, which causes more concern for me than the Oline.

by ColtsFanNChiTown on Jul 8, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

The offensive line has more depth

Having 9 players that suck is not better than having 5 players that suck. I would trade any 4 of them for one guy who was merely above average. I share your concern about the secondary, but they are fine if nobody gets hurt. There is always a chance that the light comes on for one of the OL guys and he plays great this year, but I just don’t have the same faith in it that you do.

by invisibulman on Jul 9, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

We can win w/o a great running game.

At least till 2014. But there is no guarantee that Manning will play that long. We can get back to the Superbowl with this O-Line. We got to Superbowl XLIV with a mediocre O-Line. Collie and Garçon should be better this year and Wayne and Clark are coming off their best seasons and we get Gonzo back. The passing game should be BETTER this year. With Manning highly motivated, we should be back in the SB this year. The question is can Vinnatieri revert back to form and can the defense get off the field on 3rd Down as well as find someone else to pressure the QB besides Freeney and Mathis.

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by P0RKINS2 on Jul 8, 2010 7:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

How about this plan...

…we’ll trade you our offensive line drafting skills (from Vollmer, to Kaczur and Mankins, to Koppen, to Matt Light, heck, even UDFA Stephen Neal) if you give us wide receiver skills for a year?

Sound good?

by Richard Hill on Jul 8, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

We'll pass...

No pun intended. (maybe)

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by bamock on Jul 8, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

why didn't polian make a move on jammal brown?

the saints gave him up for a 4th round pick, he’s a lot better than andy alleman

by r c a on Jul 8, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

why didn't polian make a move on jammal brown?

the saints gave him up for a 4th round pick, he’s a lot better than andy alleman

by r c a on Jul 8, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

seems like Polian and the Colts do not think he is top OL material....

but who knows….

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by Manning4ever on Jul 9, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

top flight LT are not available when the Colts draft

Using profootballfocus if you look at their tackle ratings you get the following top 10 LT

Joe Thomas (pick 3)
Jake Long (pick 1)
Sebastian Vollmer (pick 58) – a little misleading as he really isn’t even the starter and his stats are for both LT and RT replacement service.
Jared Gaither (supplemental draft)
D’Brickashaw Ferguson (pick 4)
Jeff Backus (pick 18)
Andrew Whitworth (pick 55) – drafted as a guard
Ryan Clady (pick 12)
Jordan Gross (pick 8)
Jason Peters (undrafted) – came out of college as a TE

So 6 of the top 10 tackles in the NFL were picked outside of the range of what the Colts can draft. The other 4 either overachieved (Vollmer), moved from other positions (Whitworth, Peters) or had serious question marks coming out of college (Gaither).

by kasey_junk on Jul 9, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Draft day trades

I wonder what kind of evaluation Polian uses that suggests that there were no other first round grade OTs left when they picked, wonder if he is still stubborn and uses his own scale after talking to coaches or lets coaches provide him a value chart for OL.

Besides, when the Ravens can move in and get Michael Oher at what, #23 (moving up from #26) and the Colts were picking at #27 (got Donald Brown in that Michael Oher 2009 draft), I sometimes have an issue with Polian not willing to move up just a few spots in round 1 to get the OL we want. You don’t have to do it all the time (Polian did do that in round 2 for Fili Moala) but you can do it once in a while in round 1 too. Ravens did it for Flacco, then did it for Oher again in round 1.

From Polian’s perspective, just like picking up Corey Simon left a bad taste in his mouth for acquiring players via free agency, giving up a future 1st round pick for Ugoh has left a bad taste in his mouth as well. So Polian crawls back into his comfort zone which has worked for the most part, and I doubt he gives up a high future pick for an OL again, as long as he is GM.

by chad72 on Jul 9, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I buy that Polian won't trade up.

There were pretty persistent rumors on draft day this year that the Colts were trying to move up for an OL and couldn’t find any takers.

Also you have to remember that the Colts consistently bad draft position hurts their ability to trade. When you trade with the Colts for later round selections you are getting the tail end of the round and if you trade for future picks you are almost assured of getting a late round selection. Add to this the fact that nobody wants to make the Colts any better and you can imagine it is harder for them to trade picks than other teams.

Also, I’ve never heard any indications that Polian doesn’t listen to his scouting department. In fact the Colts are one of the few teams that have independent scouts. They have a particular methodology and stick to it. I think the real issue is that “we” as fans don’t know what we are talking about so we find it inconceivable that Polian doesn’t want to move up.

Finally, I think it is a little early to say for sure that the Oher pick was a great move on the part of the Ravens. For all his hype, he doesn’t grade out that well when you look at various statistics of his play, combine that with the warning flags he had coming out of school about ability to learn and adapt and he doesn’t seem like a great fit for the Colts at least.

Remember, Ugoh looked pretty good after one year too. I’m not saying that the Oher pick was bad, I’m just saying it is too early to tell if that was a good pickup for the Ravens or not.

by kasey_junk on Jul 9, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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