NFL Preseason 2010: Notes on the Colts 37-17 preseason loss to the 49ers
Prior to this game, we talked about how important it was for certain players to step out onto the field today and prove something to their Indianapolis Colts coaches. We also touched on how playing well in preseason almost always trumps practicing well in training camp. Some people look great in shorts, but stick them in pads and place them in a simulated game environment (let alone a real one), and things change.
Here, we focus on the good and the bad that can be taken from this game. Though the final score indicates a 'blowout,' preseason final scores are meaningless and anyone who cares about them is a loser. The importance of preseason is in how specific players performed 'with the lights on.' Again, I'll quote Bill Polian:
You can get something from the practice field, but not everything. They don't keep score at practice. They only keep score when the lights go on.
So, who 'scored' and who sank in today's preseason game? Find out after the jump...
These are a few of my notes from the game. I treated it basically the way I would a team scrimmage. If you have additional observations, or you want to elaborate on a point, shout it in the comments.
- First unit defense was excellent. Causing a turnover on the very first play makes one smile with anticipation as to how good this defense can be. Without Dwight Freeney or Bob Sanders, Colts first stringers just seem too much for the 49ers offense.
- Kavell Conner played WILL linebacker today in place of Clint Session.
- After the turnover, Colts offense looked out of sync. Run blocking is a major issue. More on that later.
- The second offensive series for the Colts was vintage. Peyton Manning carved up SF's defense like a turkey. Several precise passes to Austin Collie, Reggie Wayne, and Jacob Tamme. Colts have so many receiving weapons it can get dizzying.
- We also saw Anthony Gonzalez run the 'Garcon screen play' to great effect. However, Gonzo needs to protect the football better when he gets into the open field. Gonzo fumbled when he was tackled, and was lucky it went out of bounds.
- Again, run blocking for the 'starting' o-line was terrible. Mike Pollak is just garbage. Even on the the Joseph Addai nine yard TD run, that was all Joseph. Again, why was Ryan Lilja cut?
- Marcus McCauley looked very good in special teams coverage. He made a great tackle on bad Garrett Lindholm kickoff. McCauley's effort held the 49ers runner at the 20 yard line.
- On the second defensive series for the Colts, Robert Mathis was doubled. He tried to use a spin move that was 'Freeney-like' to get to Alex Smith.
- Great run blitz by Kavell Conner against draw play. He dropped runner in the backfield.
- Ted Ginn Jr. got absolutely rocked by Jerraud Powers! Powers read the screen play from his slot position. Defense looks ready, especially considering no Session, Freeney, Bob.
- Manning goes 8-10 for 91 yards. Big P. sits at around the 6:00 mark in the first quarter with the Colts up 10-0 and dominating the 49ers.
- Curtis Painter enters the game. Run blocking is still terrible. Two runs by Brown net a total of -3 yards. Despite an off-season of preparation and a supposed 'renewed' emphasis on the run, they still cannot generate consistent yardage.
- Third defensive series and the D continues to shine. Bethea made play on ball, Powers catches the deflection and returns it 48 yards.
- Painter's first INT of the day is returned 90 yards for a TD. It's a terrible read and comes at the worst time. turnovers in the red zone are unforgivable, and when they are returned for touchdowns the QB should start worrying about his job status.
- The 49ers offense kept first stringers in while facing Colts second string D. 49ers scored another TD and took the lead.
- Taj Smith dropped too many passes today. Classic exmaple of a guy looking good in shorts, but coming up small 'when the lights are on.' He should have caught the deep ball by Painter in the second half. It bounced right off his hands, and he was open. He catches that, which is what he is paid to do, it's a TD. Taj also dropped another in the third quarter. As bad as Painter was today, Taj Smith was almost worse.
- It was Mitch King playing fullback that caused Painter's fumble on the 4th and one exchange near mid-field. King bumped into Painter during the exchange with Mike Hart. Painter got the fumble back, but it was a turnover on downs.
- Pat Angerer impressed today. After the Painter fumble, the 49ers and their back-up quarterback David Carr drove into the Colts redzone. Angerer blitzed twice and recorded two sacks. Fili Moala got a sack. More on Fili later. Overall, Angerer looked good today.
- Adam Terry really struggled in pass protection. Bruce Davis of the 49ers abused him. Terry also had a false start in third quarter.
- Jamie Silva's knee injury looked nasty. Possible ACL. Does not look good.
- Brody Eldridge looked good. Nice catch and run on third down in third quarter.
- Poor tackling in third quarter for Kavell Conner. Should have had the 49ers RB in backfield, but whiffed.
- Jerry Hughes, on a flare route by Anthony Dixon, got stiff armed pretty badly.
- Fili Moala looked good as an interior pass rusher today. Number 68 of the 49ers was pretty blatantly holding him. But, it's preseason and the refs don't give a crap.
- Brandon King was solid today, making several good tackles.
- Devin Moore impressed me today. Jim Caldwell was visible cheering Moore; nodding his head with each Moore run. For a small back, Devin runs with authority. He finished with 4 carries for 26 yards.
- Tom Brandstater took over for Curtis Painter late in third. He started out looking good, going 3-3. However, he did throw a bad INT after guiding team into 49ers territory. Later in the fourth quarter, Brandstater's TD throw to Tamme was a nice play. Aside from the INT, Brandstater guided the offense well. He looked much more comfortable than Painter, which is a pretty bad indictment of Painter. Brandstater's only been on the team four weeks. For him to learn the offense and execute like that in his first preseason game for the Colts was impressive.
- On Anthony Dixon's TD run in the 4th quarter, both Mitch King and Mike Newton missed tackles badly. Newton looked especially horrendous, getting stiff-armed and out-muscled.
- Some nice returns by Brandon James. Even though fourth quarter kick return was called back because of a Taj Smith hold (again, rough day for Taj Smith), James ran well.
- Blair White impressed me today. He played physical and made some tough catches, especially the deep ball from Brandstater in fourth quarter. I LOLed at number 27 for 49ers on that play. He practically stuck his fingers up White's nose in a blatant inference attempt top stop him from catching the ball. White caught it anyway, and it set-up Brandstater's score to Tamme.
We'll do another recap later tonight to see which players improved their stock and which didn't. Needless to say, Curtis Painter should start sweating.
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I will not bash too much until I see Ugoh at guard, CJ at tackle
Tony was hit and miss today at tackle, but I saw some flashes that he could really do well playing guard. Jamey Richard looked awful out there, and was blown by nearly every run play it seemed. Pollak was just as bad. So it’s tough to really be too critical of a line that is clearly not our first team. It sucks because we don’t know what the line of Johnson, Ugoh, Saturday, Devan, and Diem are really capable of run-wise. And yes, the SF run d is very very good, so I will not ignore that. So with 2 starters not playing, and one moved to another position, I will not be too critical, but as far as depth is concerned, we are paper thin at OL. If that team sees regular season action, yikes.
I will agree that cutting Lilja was a move made by Polian that makes absolute no sense. I guess Ugoh is supposed to be an upgrade there, but you would think that we would sign or draft one or two guys capable of starting and making an impact. I would love to hear Polian’s assessment of the OL that he clearly did not do a thing to improve aside from moving Ugoh.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
Will McClendon Develop?
Who knows. Terry looks to be a bust. Thomas didn’t look good at G. Even when CJ and Jeff comes back, I’m worried that we have no depth on the line.
But I predict we won’t be a worse ranked running team than last year. You heard it here first.
Painter...
I was watching the game on justin.tv, with a bunch of 49rs chatting on the board and it was quite funny, the remarks about Painter. Really terrible play by him. They suggested giving Manning a second jersey with Painter’s #’s on it so he could step in for Curtis. We also laughed at the Painter interception where it was run back for a TD, and the 49er did a little dance. Even the 49er fans were like, “dude, please.” Funny stuff.
Run game was bad, especially Downtown Brown. Is he just very tiny? He gets touched and falls down. We really need a bruiser, like Brandon Jacobs, to take the ball thru the offense line.
But overall, good first game of the pre-season for the Colts.
Not the backs fault
Our running backs are above average. Our O-Line is below average (kind). When there are 3 players in the backfield before Brown can even get the handoff, theres not much he can do. Barry Sanders would look bad behind our current patchwork line.
Sorry, it bothers me when people assume having a Brandon Jacobs type back would result in a better run-game. If that were true, every team in the league would have the Refridgerator in their backfield.
Purdue Boilermaker and Indianapolis Colts fan since 1995
by Spiral Boiler 41 on Aug 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
There is another player that should get a mention
Colin Cloherty
he made a couple big plays. I think he was the one that took down Ginn at the 15 on the kickoff return to start the game and he made another big play on defense.
I like Colin Cloherty.... he is cute...!!
/sorry, can’t help it…. women’s instincts…. just like some of you are checking out the “tire barn” girl… :)
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by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Which reminds me...
Could that Tire Barn girl be any cuter?
/heh
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
I bet she can... /wink wink!
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by Manning4ever on Aug 17, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone make an excuse for Painter, please...
Because he couldn’t even execute a handoff to Mike Hart @BUF last year, and there were excuses for that. I just want to hear how Polian is justify keeping Painter as a QB2 this year. And he will. Hiller and Brandstater will outplay him, and he’ll still be QB2.
by Collin McCollough on Aug 15, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
Polian already said
one of the INTs wasn’t Painters fault. I assume he meant the one that bounced off of Guns. The one that was behind him? He’s horrible, a waste of a draft pick.
Guess he figures 1/3 ain't bad?
Or something like that. I really don’t second-guess Polian in a lot of departments, but QB2 is one of them. I know the Colts without Manning are screwed anyway, but it seems they would be notably less screwed with a veteran backup or generally competent QB than with Painter. Hell, at least Sorgi could manage a game. Painter even falls apart when it comes to that. There is NO defending Painter’s inability to compete at the professional level, and it sickens me that Polian doesn’t really care about that and will allow him to be QB2 anyway.
by Collin McCollough on Aug 15, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the backup QB never plays
but I don’t understand the reluctance to sign a decent veteran QB. Probably money, which is why they got rid of Sorgi. They don’t want a $1M clipboard holder.
Do you remember Mannings first preseason game?
Besides his first throw for a TD he looked awful. He will admit it. I don’t have the exact figures but I think it was a 4 turnover day for him too. His second and third outings weren’t great either.
Its a little early to be claiming Painter can’t be a QB in the NFL, though getting boo’d every time he leaves the field probably isn’t helping.
Having said that, I didn’t like him at Purdue, I didn’t like that we drafted him and don’t think he is the answer at backup QB, so I’m ok with jettisoning him.
don't forget
that this is far from Painter’s first pre-season game
How can you not love a team that does this?
Not that far
It is his 5th pre-season game and he had 2 meaningless real games last year. That is not a lot of time for someone to judge an NFL career.
I don’t think Painter is the answer, but I also think he got about the worst situation for a new QB in that he is backing up perhaps the greatest QB of all time and he is paying the price for managements decision to pull players last year.
Sorgi was never popular while he was here either yet he didn’t get the vitriol that Painter does. In fact, I was at a game where the crowd was actively cheering for Sorgi even though he wasn’t playing particularly well.
Well, I wouldn't say that Sorgi was UNpopular
(i know you didn’t say that) He wasn’t revered or anything but he was well liked, especially near the end of his contract.
I know I liked him anyway. I’ve been watching Painter for 4 years and I still don’t like him (as a player), and probably never will.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
a couple of years ago
In the pre-season the year Sorgi was hurt, people around here were actively hoping he would be replaced as the backup. He was definitely not liked. Just in comparison to the hatred for Painter it looks mild.
I'm not so sure I'd go so far as to say "unliked".
Sure, some were that way, but I didn’t get the feeling that it was general. Rather, people just thought he stunk and was simply not a good QB, but didn’t have anything against him outside of that. Most of us – myself included – figured that, for his production, Indy could get a young gun who could hold the clipboard for less and provide some young enthusiasm to the position. Should’ve realized that it was altogether possible for the backup QB position to regress, but that didn’t seem to occur to us at the time. It sure didn’t occur to me.
Anyway, a lot of us thought he stunk, but many of us who thought that way thought he was an otherwise likeable guy.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I would say unliked...
in that we knew he couldn’t win us games like Manning, so we thought we could get a better quarterback. Little did we know we would wish to have him back…
I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky. - Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Aug 15, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And on top of that, Manning showed definite progression in his games after that.
Painter is showing regression, if nothing else. In Manning, you saw him build and learn; in Painter, you see a guy that’s gun-shy and for whom the game hasn’t slowed down yet.
Maybe he’ll improve; I don’t know. But he’s not showing that he’s getting any better. He wasn’t facing the starting D, and he still looked like he did against the Jets. That’s a bad sign.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Thanks EMH....
I have a hard time trying to figure out why Painter is so bad and most of us want him to go… but you make a great point! Progression and Regression…. It is NOT his 1st game, preseason or not. He has been in the system for over a year…. and today he played more than 2 Quarters… NO improveements at all…. Polian may simply be vengeful and still keep him as the primary backup! That is my fear!
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by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree with you.
REGRESSION. There’s no doubt about it.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
right
excuses for CP will continue…It’s just never CP’s fault, because BP has to continue the guise that he is a GENIUS. BP has made very good picks and some very good grabs in the market, but he’s not perfect and has missed on more than one occasion, including this time. However, the excuses will just keep rolling…the pass was tipped…the O-line is terrible…the sky is falling…etc.
yung lace
Highlight of the game for me was seeing Lacey cold cock a 49er OLineman (I think it was Joe Staley) on the powers INT return; he just flat out knocked that dude on his ass.
by dfree93 on Aug 15, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Another:
It didn’t make up for throwing the pick, but Bradstater made a solid tackle on the guy that made the INT. Seriously; he looked more poised than Painter and hustled to prevent a bad play from turning worse. And it wasn’t a wussy shove or anything, it was a full-on, arm-wrap, impact tackle. Bradstater didn’t shy away from the contact.
I liked that.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
me tooo... and it draws praise from other observers too! NOT a wise move by a QB but
also shows he is a great football player and has guts.
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by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, you'd never see that Manning guy do that!
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
Marinelli
Other than the obvious that’s already been stated. Marinelli just did not look comfortable playing guard. He was abused all day. Chick played avg. Which is not good. And giguere still sucks in my book.
by tenaytiousd32 on Aug 15, 2010 6:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
There seems to be a huge dropoff
between our starters and the subs. I know a lot of that is because our first team is so good. Backup LBs look pretty good (some better than Wheeler).
Backup DBs all look like they’re from the Jennings school of pass defense.
this made me snicker, but it's sad because it's true.
…from the Jennings school of pass defense.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
I think a lot of it has to do with the way we evaluate talent in the preseason. The Colts are exceptional at turning late-round/undrafted talent into valueable contributors every season.
Polian throws all these players out there, and looks for diamonds in the rough. Most other teams have journeyman veterans that makeup most of their roster. This is why it seems like a huge drop-off when our 2nd and 3rd teams play in the preseason. It also doesn’t help that they’re running base cover-2 95% of the time.
Purdue Boilermaker and Indianapolis Colts fan since 1995
by Spiral Boiler 41 on Aug 15, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Brandstater
Was pretty impressive considering the situation he was thrown in so quickly. He looks the part, and seems to throw a good ball. Lets hope he turns into a great backup as these weeks go on.
Me too
People seem to forget Brandstater was a quality player in college and one of the better 2nd tier QB’s from his draft…. the guy has the tools and the know how, just needs the chance to shine…
If he plays well in the preseason, I’m all for ejecting Aint’er…
by DevilsReject on Aug 15, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep Brandstater
Painter is terrible. I was pulling for him last season against buffalo and new york but enough is enough. the guy is terrible. he looks awful. I know a few things wasnt his fault but come on he was awful
Brandstater was actually drafted before painter.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
and romours has it that Colts actually wanted to draft Brandstater but he got grabbed by
the Broncos ahead of the Colts….
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard that
before from one of the news reports on that draft…..not to mention I believe BBS or shake may have commented on something akin to that in a post shortly after we picked up Brandstater…
I think if he continues to play the way he has, in such a short time with the Colts offense, that you’d be an absolute idiot to keep Painter over him…
Brandstater has all the tools and the height, not to mention the desire…
by DevilsReject on Aug 16, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
hopefully some of the first timers take something away from this and do better the second time around
I was really impressed by devin moore… maybe they keep him and drop hart to the practice squad… hart a couple good runs…who know still 3 more games to watch… moala definitely looked better… kavell conner showed potential… brandon james looks good too… and so did eldridge and blair white…. white reminds of collie.. he might become the 5th WR over taj smith and sammy G.
Hart looked better than Brown...
Just saying.
by Collin McCollough on Aug 15, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. And his blocking has improved.
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
Just throwing this out there
Since we have an abundance of amazing WRs. Could the colts possibly use one of them as trade bait to shore up the O-line?
by FreeneyWillEatYourBaby on Aug 15, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
Probably not.
Manning makes those guys look a LOT better than they really are. Other GMs know this. Plus, you can never have enough good players in the injury-prevalent NFL.
by Collin McCollough on Aug 15, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
White didn't play with Manning.
He made PAINTER look good.
Just saying.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
This ^
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
White is unique....
I sure hope that the Colts keep him on active roster.
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
If I was in charge, he'd make the 53-man roster,
Painter and Taj would be released, and we’d all go out for ice cream after every game.
Fans too.
Oh! And we’d show away games on the Luke screens and sell tickets really cheap.
Yeah… that’s what i’d do if i was in charge.
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
Let us vote you in teej!! :)
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by Manning4ever on Aug 17, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Devin Aromashadu
He is likely going to be a breakout player for the Bears this year and is one of the Colts’ castoffs….however he has a certain special skill that none of the Colts backups have except Blair White. He can catch the ball.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
I get really tired of hearing this...
It strikes me as lazy when people make sweeping generalizations that the Colts’ receivers(or any team’s for that matter) only look good because of the QB. Tell that to the Bears. They would kill for an Austin Collie.
Don’t presume to know what “Other GMs know”. Did Aaron Moorehead ever look as good as Collie or Gonzalez or Garcon or Clark or even Wayne? No. Because he wasn’t as talented. By your logic they could put Tony Ugoh at WR and he would look like a deep threat.
Please. Give credit where credit is due.
Purdue Boilermaker and Indianapolis Colts fan since 1995
by Spiral Boiler 41 on Aug 15, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I remember listening to Colin Cowherd before the Super Bowl and he had OchoCinco on as a guest and he asked him the question Does Manning make his receivers look better than they really are? Chad said “Wayne, very good WR. Collie, very good WR. Garcon, very good WR. Someone needs to check their payroll because there’s no way they can pay all those guys.” That interview cleared up what I was wondering myself.
by FreeneyWillEatYourBaby on Aug 15, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember Moorehead making a sick behind the back catch once...
I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky. - Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Aug 15, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun fact
Angerer had 2 sacks in his entire career at Iowa. Norm Parker might be closer to Meeks than Coyer in aggressiveness with the bliz.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
They should cut Painter and
try to get Max Hall that is an undrafted free agent QB from BYU that is trying to make a roster spot in Arizona. He has poise, guts and the moxy to be a good QB in the league. Under Manning’s instruction he could be something special when Manning decides to retire. Plus Hall and Collie were teammates together. That would be fun to see them light it up on Sundays.
we have brandstater now and Tim hiller.. no need to look elsewhere.... if and when painter is cut....
still i doubt genius Polian will cut Painter since he has stood behind him all these times….
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions
how many times has he stood by him?
His rookie preseason, 2 regular season games when Colts fans lost their minds due to something that was not his fault and 1 preseason game this year. That is not a lot of time for a QB to develop.
This whole idea that Polian is keeping a 6th round pick because of his ego is idiotic. It doesn’t jive with the man’s history. He plays the guys that prove it and cuts those that don’t. The Colts have one of the best records in the NFL on this point.
I believe all the other fans have posted rebuttals or observations....
I don’t believe I need to rehash them here….
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by Manning4ever on Aug 17, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Javarris James looked solid
Ran with authority considering the blocking.
I'm already suicidally depressed by how the OLine sucks
This is how good Manning is (like I need to tell you all): the Niners are a reasonably good defensive team and #18 has essentially no pass blocking BUT he was still 8-10 for 91 yards in 9 minutes of playing time. I attribute that to him adjusting to shorter drops, quicker throws and counting on good YAC, which our receivers excel at giving him. What was impressive to me is that he made the adjustment in the first two series of the preseason. He’s been in camp what, two weeks? The line has to give him more time, he can’t make these adjustments week after week (well, I don’t think he can, but I can’t say it’s impossible) especially after teams begin planning for the quicker drop and throw. What I’m saying is stretching the field with deep balls will be very hard to do with this line as it is. But—deep breath—it’s only the first exhibition game.
As bad as the line was in the passing game, it was worse—much worse—in the run game. Addai’s TD was all Joe. Love the effort but you know he’ll break down if he has to work like that on every play. Brown is veering toward being a bust. Veering is a little strong, because his best move today was to make a move, hesitate, then roll up in the fetal position. Of course, the line sucked, but Addai before him and Hart after him made a little out of nothing.
I think my frustration is that Polian identified this problem after the Super Bowl…then set about fixing it by cutting Lilja, failing to draft Saffold or Brown or someone to help, and then inserting Adam freaking Terry (if keeping Terry took up a roster spot that caused Alleman to be cut, imagine how bad Alleman, our other FA pickup, was). Injuries happen every year, so it isn’t like CJ or Saturday going down was unexpected. What is killing me is that it doesn’t look like the team did much to fix the problem, when everyone knew it was THE problem.
Repeat after me: It’s only the first preseason game…The Colts don’t try to win, just evaluate…We go 0-4 almost every year…It’s only the first preseason game…The Colts don’t try to win, just evaluate…We go 0-4 almost every year…
The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in the stars, but in ourselves.
It's the Colts
drafting position that is the problem. When you draft last every year for 12 straight years you don’t get a lot of chances to grab premier lineman. A 320# athletic freak is a lot more rare than functional receivers and running backs and they are snapped up. If your philosophy is to draft the best available player than you rarely will have a lineman high on your board left by the 30th pick. You win by drafting the best player left on the board. Over-all you get the best team for your money. You may have to use an all-pass dink-n-dunk offense and a bunch of really fast small defenders to make do, but if you are winning in spite of what seems to be glaring weaknesses, then obviously you did the best possible drafting you could do.
I don’t predict that the Colts are going to get a remarkable run game going again until Manning retires, the team starts getting good draft spots and builds a new line.
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Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
HA! i just thought of that today!
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by Manning4ever on Aug 17, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
preseason game 1
ugoh looked much better in pass protection.moala was very good also.b james show nothing in punt returns,but was okay in kr’s.I still wonder if the line would be better with ugoh at left tackle and c.johnson at guard.
Lindholm did well today.
Good write up. However, how did Lindholm have a “bad kick” when his 3 kickoffs averaged to the 6 yard line? He did well for his first NFL game. The writers on this website seem very against this rookie kicker. I have seen good things at Anderson from him. He has an extremely strong leg for a rookie
I was high on Lindholm before the draft. Was actually hoping the Colts would select him.
But the problem wasn’t really with the depth of his kicks (which was decent not great), but they had almost no hang time. He was practically firing line drives on kickoffs. McAffee definitely doesn’t have to worry about losing the kick off duty.
"I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal."- Peter La Fleur
my thoughts exactly.....
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind it was his first game ever in the NFL...
Do you really think he performed at his very best his when it was his first time stepping on an NFL field? I think some people need to cut him some slack…. he was keeping up with Pat at Anderson, many times even out-doing him. His FG’s are by far his strong point though. Wait until the next 3 games and Im sure we will finally get some positive feedback from these columnists who think Vinatieri and McAfee blow him out of the water. I’ve seen him kick 65+ yarders consistently in practice so I have some confidence in the rookie.
let us hope so.... maybe groomed as a future kicker for the Colts??
But Vinatieri is still legendary…. the “cluth-iness” (heehee) is what sets him apart….most of the time.
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 17, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Take a deep breath arm-chair GMs...
First off, I agree Curtis Painter needs to be cut. He is an abomination. Embarassing for all Purdue fans. Terrible.
Donald Brown is fine. Its not his fault when he gets the handoff and gets raped by 3 DLinemen 5 yards in the backfield. Same goes for Hart. I was very impressed by Devin Moore, and to a lesser extent J.James.
I expected a poor effort by our O-Line today. Saturday and Johnson both out. McClendon out. The 49ers run-defense is very solid and physical. Bad matchup for our running game.
On the bright side, several players looked great individually: Angerer, Kavell Connor, Powers, Moore, Brandon James, Blair White, Eldridge and Tamme, Collie, Brandon King.. and others.
Phillip Wheeler is going to be a beast this year.
Purdue Boilermaker and Indianapolis Colts fan since 1995
by Spiral Boiler 41 on Aug 15, 2010 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
My Thoughts
1. Painter is really bad by NFL standards. He holds the ball way too long, is inaccurate, and doesn’t show any confidence in himself to make a play. His decision making, once he finally decides to throw the ball, is questionable and the Colts would probably never score a TD in a meaningful game if he was leading the offense.
2. Sammy Guns and Taj Smith are horrible. Guns is slow and has stone hands. Taj also can’t catch the ball. Blair White, on the other hand, is also slow but can catch the ball which is something I personally value much more than speed. On a side note, this is why I like the Townsend signing…he isn’t very fast, but he understands coverages and positioning and has the ability to make plays when needed.
3. The O-line play was disgusting. Brown never had a chance. The play of Pollak and Richards is maddening. Jamie Thomas is awful. Terry is way to perfectly sized as an O-lineman to be so average. I have never wanted CJ, Ugoh and Diem to be on the field as much as I did during that game. If the line is going to be full of backups, I would like Peyton to sit out the rest of the preseason please.
4. I don’t understand why Brandon James was pulled for kickoff returns in favor of Guns in the first place, but after Guns misplayed his first return the coaches continued to send him out there a few more times when all the buzz surrounding special teams was about James and Ray Fisher’s ability to bring playmaking to the return game. James was brought back in later and showed why he should be the only return man on his long return which was called back on what I thought was a fantom holding call.
4. Did I mention Painter is really really bad?
5. McAfee didn’t look all that great either. His punts were short and did not have the hang time we are all used to. He has set the bar very high for himself and I’m glad this was a preseason game.
6. Wheeler continues to look average. I have said a million times that I want him to cut his hair, but obviously that has nothing to do with his performance (I hope). His abilities in coverage are below average and he looks to be out of control much too often when trying to make tackles. I would like to see him used in a more natural role this season as a blitzer with Bullitt, Sanders and Bethea used in coverage.
7. The starting D looked really good as a whole unit. Especially while missing some of the major players in Freeney, Sanders and Session. I look forward to Coyer continuing to let this defense use more aggressive packages this season.
That pretty much wraps it up for me…not too worried because pre-season is only the pre-season and obviously health is the most important thing. Also, call me harsh but I am not bothered by the Silva injury at all because I don’t really care for him as a player and I think almost anyone else could step in for him and the coverage units would not skip a beat.
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Apparently I'm not that good at counting
I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
you and me, pal. Do what I do, blame the beer...
I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky. - Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You can use the HTML "ordered list" tags
That way, the browser does the counting for you. If you type things in like so:
<ol>
<li> First item
<li> Second item
<li> Etc.
</ol>
That turns into this:
- First item
- Second item
- Etc.
That makes it all easier, especially if your list is long or each individual list item has a lot of stuff. Since HTML will do the work, might as well take advantage of it.
Or, you could just blame the beer. That works too. 
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Beer. The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky. - Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Aug 16, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Painter should stick to painting walls and houses!
Curtis Painter was just bullshit! Why didn’t the team cut him?
When the great Peyton Manning retires (SHIVERS…) who will replace him?
Do we need to have a couple of 1 to 4 win seasons and stay at the bottom of the division before finding a college replacement for him?
Or will Jim Sorgi be the more than capable?
Or is there any YOUNG (not necessarily Vince Young) QB that is rotting in the benches of all other 31 teams who has the potential (at least 65%) to be very capable of leading our team to Super Bowl wins and have a lot of winning seasons again?
Or if Ben Roethlisberger is totally hated by Pittsburgh and let go, do we take him in?
by Rasetsu on Aug 16, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd for your funny headline
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
question for colts fans
do you guys regret Sorgi leaving after watching Painter?…just wondering
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Jim Sorgi was a more capable backup. The rest of the QBs not named Peyton Manning? Forget them! No use missing players who leave.
Wish we could get Brian Brohm. I think he’s more than capable of being a backup to the great Peyton.
hmmm.... this comment was posted before Sorgi threw 2 TDs against the Jets in his
Giant’s debut! Honestly, even though he is never great, he is never as bad as Painter.
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 17, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions
what former Colts player will you miss?
Offense: Michael Toudouze
Defense: Freddie Keiaho & Tim Jennings (don’t laugh).
Michael T. wasn’t the best pass blocking OL they had but he can make way for Addai or any RB to find the lane and punch it in. IMO he was average at best in pass blocking but run blocking seemed to be his bread and butter.
Freddie Keiaho was amazing at stuffing the run and he truly improved the Colts’ rush defense and he had a great level of aggressiveness to help compliment Brackett, OK so he couldn’t play well on coverage or will get smoked by a very talented TE. But bottom line is Freddie was my favorite LB on the team after Cato June departed he was way better than Humber or Hagler (even though Hagler can cut it, but Humber just sucks).
Tim Jennings (the man most Colts’ fans picks on) was very well versed in man coverage to be so small, the guy can cover elite WRs as long as they didn’t have a 4-6 inch height advantage over him, but playing zone really didn’t work out for him that much, and now that he’s in Chicago (another cover-2 defense) the same thing could happen all over again. Send him to the Cowboys, Raiders, or Ravens and you’ll see my fellow Colts fans how good Jennings really was.
Bottomline....
Our Great GM may be getting senile…. and the hip replacement surgery may be a tell-tale sign.
/sigh!!
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Aug 16, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a chance.
The Colts ALWAYS lose pre-season games with few expceptions.
Wouldn’t matter what they wore.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.
Shoot
They could have dressed in Togas and did the Samba and they still woulda lost…
by DevilsReject on Aug 16, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking they may as well have worn retro kilts.
"You can't defend the perfect throw, what can I say?" Peyton quoting Marino
"As I grow older, the list of people who can kiss my ass grows longer"-Ancient Hoosier Proverb.

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