2010 NFL Preseason: Recap of the Colts and Bills preseason game in Toronto
I spent much of Friday recovering from an illness. Thanks to GoBigBlue88, emiller17, and LovinBlue for posting some great game recaps for the Colts and Bills preseason game in Toronto. Before we get to my notes, it seems the "Toronto Experiment" for the Bills is not working. Only 20,000 people attended the game. That's putrid, even by preseason standards. No offense, but if Ralph Wilson cannot get football to work in Western New York (where they are crazy for pigskin) but a publicly-owned team can make football work in Green Bay, WI, that suggests to me that the problem is Ralph Wilson, not the fans. Playing game in Canada is a sure fire way to isolate your fanbase, Mr. Wilson.
OK, onto the notes. I've watched the game three times. Yes, I am THAT obsessive!
- From the first kick, Devin Moore had something to prove. He was four years deep in the endzone on the opening kickoff and got the ball out near the 30. Tremendous burst and "shake." On his second return, he runs it out to the 37. The 49 yard punt return late in the first, where he took it straight up the middle of the seam without any hesitation, was awesome. This explosive element adds a new weapon for the Colts if Moore can be consistent with it.
- Devin running was also quite impressive. He hits the hole, and his speed takes care of the rest. Devin Moore had an outstanding overall game against the Bills.
- All night, punt returns were very good for the Colts. Brandon James had a good one in the fourth when he came into the game. Either the Bills truly suck on special teams, or the Colts have two or three guys who can make some things happen with the football returning punts and kicks.
- Penalty on Tony Ugoh to start the game was a trend. Kyle Williams, #95 for the Bills, killed Ugoh all day. Pretty much on every passing play, Ugoh was getting beat. Again, Ugoh has all the talent in the world. There's no excuse for him to be losing battles to players like Chris Kelsay.
- Manning seemed to be annoyed all evening with Clyde Christensen. During the first drive, Peyton was seen gesturing to the sideline, indicating a 'hurry up and get me the friggin play' attitude. Later, on the team's second drive and near the red zone, the Colts tried to run the WR screen, but the Bills sniffed it out. Manning threw the ball in the dirt, turned to the sideline and said "You can't f*cking call that!" I've watched Peyton since 1998. I never recall him ever doing that to Tom Moore. Maybe some of you can recall a time or a moment where you saw him do that, but I can't.
- After a third down competition, Manning looked at the bench and shook his head in disgust about something. To me, it seemed he was pissed at Ugoh blowing his block on Chris Kelsay, almost giving Kelsay a free shot at Peyton's blindside.
- Lots of 4 WR sets with empty backfield for the first team offense. For those of you who want to see Anthony Gonzalez and Pierre Garcon on the field together, this was that formation. 4 wide, no back in the backfield, spread offense. The first time they used it, Marcus Stroud was able to penetrate and bat the ball down. Stroud slapped Jamey Richard around all night.
- The C.J. Spiller TD run was just a fluke play. Robert Mathis, Jacob Lacey, Bob Sanders, and Antoine Bethea all missed tackles. Spiller should have been dropped for a loss, which he was several times throughout the evening. It will be interesting to see how Spiller performs throughout the year. He's a speed back, and as the season drags on and he takes a few hard sticks, will he be able to maintain that speed?
- Impressive receiving skills on display by one Brody Eldridge. Manning trusts the kid. Equally great receiving by Joseph Addai. If the Colts use a 4 wide package on offense this year, they can do it with multiple personnel groupings On his long third down receptions, Addai beat Paul Pozlusnky. Addai running routes with a LBer covering him is a match-up that favors Indy.
- Strong running by Donald Brown, especially on delayed draw runs. He saw the field a bit better this evening, and allowed his blocks to develop.However, on passing downs, Brown does not have reliable hands. He dropped an easy one from Manning late on the first.
- On the 19-yard Joseph Addai TD, blocking up from was excellent. Jeff Linkenbach, who played both tackle and both guard positions Thursday night, did a nice job blocking at the second level, taking out Bills safety Bryan Scott to spring Addai for the score. After the TD, Addai pointed to Linkenbach as if to say 'Good job.' Good blocking by Mike Pollak on the run as well.
- Joseph Addai has speed. The TD runs proves it. Give him blocking and he can make things happen. Most under-rated back in all of football.
- In second Bills offensive series, Colts defense imposed their will. Bills fans had to shudder seeing Trent Edwards taking multiple shots. His pass outside on second down should have been picked by Kelvin Hayden. Edwards got lucky. On third down, the Colts had six defenders up against the line. None blitzed. Dwight Freeney, Daniel Muir, and Robert Mathis all got into Edwards' face, and Edwards was absolutely rocked by Mathis. Helmet came off. Edwards clearly dazed and affected by Mathis' hit. The ball floated out of his hands and yet another pass that the Bills were lucky was not picked.
- The pick six was Gonzo's fault. Ball was thrown right into his hands. It bounced off, pick six. Catch the ball, Gonzo.
- Back to Ugoh, as bad as he was in pass protection, he was seemingly quite good in off-tackle run blocking.
- Jacob Tamme really is a great asset for the Colts. He is an outstanding receiving TE. Dallas Clark is awesome, but if Clark were out of a few games, Tamme could pick up the slack. He runs great routes, and the TD catch from Manning to tie the game at 14 was excellent. Tamme's excellent special teams skills, and his ability to play long-snapper, make him a very vital part of this Colts team. Anyone suggesting Tamme will be cut is just someone who is ignorant of how valuable Tamme is. The Colts love the guy and view him as an essential player.
- The Lee Evans touchdown was a result of Antoine Bethea not getting over and helping Kelvin Hayden. Colts need to tighten that up. Giving up big plays in the passing game is often a side effect of a blitz happy defense. Bug plays are unacceptable. At their core foundation, the colts are still a Tampa-2. Tampa-2 absolutely cannot give up big passing plays. It defeats the whole purpose of playing the scheme.
- Ray Fisher did a good job handling the coffin corner punt in the second. Ray also had a nice hit in the second to cause that fumble. However, in coverage both he and Brandon King had issues with Chad Jackson.
- Javarris James is a nice, physical runner. I've been impressed with him in the kid's two preseason games. He initiates contact well.
- Terrail Lambert seemed to own the second half. In the second half, Lambert made a great tackle on Jackson after Bills quarterback Brian Brohm was pressured. Lambert also covered very well. He finished the game with 9 tackles. Lambert might beat out Fisher and King for the fifth corner spot.
- Regarding Curtis Painter, it's nice that he had a decent bounce back game from the disaster that was last weekend. I say 'decent' because even though Painter had a perfect QB rating for the game, I'm still seeing too many mistakes. Painter really panics in the pocket when things break down, and I have no patience for stuff like that. This is why I have a sense Tom Brandstater will get a shot at replacing Painter. Brandstater seems much more poised and confident. I cite his near sack but resilient fourth quarter run as an example.
- The two throws that gave Painter confidence were the two long passes to Taj Smith in the second quarter. Both were against Bills corner Ellis Lankster, who was awful. I mean, truly awful covering Smith. Were talking David Macklin bad. On the 43 yard TD throw to Smith, Taj ran the exact same route he had smoked Lankster on the play before. Lankster, lost and frustrated in the coverage, essentially tried to tackle Smith before the ball landed in his hands. Flag. Smith catches it anyway, strolls into the endzone, celebrates.
- Painter's one in-completion, in the second half, should have been a pick six. There's a reason Ashton Youboty for the Bills is a third string corner, and his drop of Painter's gift is why. Painter's next throw was a useless dump-off to Javarris James. Again, Painter's whole night was made because of two throws against an awful coverage corner. I need to see more than that to say he has truly "bounced back."
- More so than Curtis Painter, Taj Smith absolutely needed to have a bounce back game. He did. Nice job, Taj. Smith played better than Painter, and thus made Curtis look better than he is.
- Second string Colts defense utilized a lot of Eric Foster at defensive end and Mitch King at tackle. King really does have a tremendous motor and get outstanding line penetration. Bills guard Cordaro Howard was having trouble dealing with him, and was called for a hold on a good run by former-Colts back Chad Simpson. Without that hold, King likely drops Simpson in the backfield.
- Mike Newton played better against the Bills. Saw some nice blitzing from the guy who might need to step in for Jamie Silva, who was IRed last week.
- Saw some good line penetration in the second half by Ricardo Mathews, a kid who has been invisible for this team all preseason. Ervin Baldwin also had some good rush from his DE spot. I spent a lot of time watching Jerry Hughes, and yes the kid is very raw. He isn't ready for real NFL games. Lots of speed. Lots of ability. But, he isn't there yet.
- Yeah, Tim Hiller is getting cut. He's pretty awful.
- Jacques McClendon and Brandstater need more reps. The fumble in the fourth looked like McClednon's fault.
All in all, I have to say I saw many, many positives out of this Colts team in their second preseason outing. Some players that really needed to play better to have any hope at making this 53-man roster did so. I also have some very high praise for the Colts second string defense. They have some players there. Colts seem very deep, and very talented, on defense this year.
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A few points:
1. I have seen Manning give Tom Moore the wtf face. Can’t recall a specific instance right off the top of my head, but it has happened. Having said that, I don’t recall it ever happening as much as it did in the BIlls game.
2. I’ve watched that pick 6 3 or 4 times and I can’t decide if it is Gonzo’s fault or just really good defense. Watch it again and you will notice the guy covering is holding his other hand, and gives him a bump. Part of me says Gonzo shouldn’t even try for that ball because of the potential for a pick, but another part of me says that was just good d.
3. Richard got blown up several times by Stroud, but I don’t think it is as bad as you make it out. He handled him 1 on 1 most of the game with no issue. That is pretty rare for a guy of that size. Normally the Colts would use the center and a guard for that. But they were rotating/stunting guards around to help out the tackles. I think Richard is a serviceable back up to Saturday, not his long term replacement, but a fine player for the team.
Good news on the O-line
is that the guys with issues aren’t starters. As far as Ugoh having “all the talent in the world”, eventually that changes to “occasionally overachieves and makes great plays but normally is a poor LT”.
I’ve been trying to decide what “deep” means. I think it means that you can replace a player with no noticable dropoff. Given that definition, I’m not sure if we’re really deep or have a bunch of equally mediocre players (except for Bullitt) that could feel in for a starter.
Feel free to tell me I’m wrong.
you're wrong
…but seriously,
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
-Peyton Manning
Thanks for all the detailed info. I watched this locally on TV4 and the viewing angle
was so poor, you couldn’t even tell who was on the Oline. Now I know what the problem was with Peyton, or one of the problems. Penalties didn’t help anything. But again, thanks for a great write-up.
TV4
I can’t stand the production of games.
1. too many closeups
2. replays take too long and the next play is often partially missed
3. announcers don’t pay attention to the game
4. announcers don’t even mention penalties
5. bad camera angles
there are other things too, but I am VERY glad that the professionals take over once the games start to count.
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by AceOfSpades on Aug 22, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Joseph Addai, does anyone have a chart or some sort of stats comparing him to the other backs in the league last year?
My brother and his friends are convinced Addai is one of the worst backs in the league .
There is also something called....
the worst couch-analysts in the league…. :)
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by Manning4ever on Aug 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Contract year
I think Addai is going to be very good this year and he has shown improvement over the past 2 seasons which is promising.
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by AceOfSpades on Aug 22, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Peyton seemed legitimately pissed at...
Tony Ugoh. All night. I hate “reading” faces, but his expression really seemed to say “are you freaking serious, Tony? Are you an NFL player?”
I noticed this on several occasions, and Peyton wasn’t exactly subtle in his inference as to who was getting the penalties that disrupted the offense’s rhythm.
by Collin McCollough on Aug 21, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions
Good recap
I was pretty disappointed with the game at first, but Merril Hoge of all people slapped me with some logic, reminding me that this was preseason, and we were tweaking things around on defense, which may have contributed to the Bethea mishap on the Evans TD. Basically he said this is the time where we are able to play around with different looks a bit, and more or less experimenting, where as in the regular season we will follow the same formula we always do.
Despite several comments, I will say the run blocking was much improved. Still needs obvious work, but for a bunch of backups, not too bad. Ugoh was definitely pissing off Manning. Not just for penalties, but pass blocking was subpar on his part. However, from what I have seen from him the first two games, he has potential to be an excellent guard. He is just not great covering the outside.
I agree that Spiller’s TD was a fluke, but that dude is blazing fast. Easy to bring down (despite our guys trying to prove otherwise), but open field he is dangerous.
Devin Moore and B James have looked phenomenal returning, particularly Moore. I say James will be listed as WR on the depth chart and Moore will make the team as RB. I don’t see how either does not make it. They have been preseason studs. Should be interesting how the final roster works out.
The Christensen/Manning communication is nothing that can’t be fixed. That is why I think Big P has been playing far longer than his usual two series and out, especially with this o-line. They need to work on making sure they are always on the same page. It was pretty clear Peyton was pissed at Christensen for that call you referenced.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
He (Peyton) can be seen talking to Tom Moore on the sideline also.....
he must be frustrated and needed to vent to his legendary coach…..
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by Manning4ever on Aug 21, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
James
I’m not quite sure why they don’t give him more reps in the return game. Is it because they already feel he will be the returner and don’t need to see any more out of him? I would still like to see more. He has excelled in practice but Moore has looked better in (pre-season) games IMO. James has stone hands so WR should be out of the question unless they use him on reverse plays or gimmicky plays like Wildcat formations.
Fisher has been disappointing to me as I had very high hopes for him. Not sure if he will make the team at this rate.
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by AceOfSpades on Aug 22, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts on Tony Ugoh and John Chick
Ugoh needs moved back to Guard. I believe he struggles in pass protection mainly because he is isolated on an island. If anyone has ever played tackle, they know what I’m talking about. I was excited when I heard they were moving Ugoh to guard, mainly because I’ve always thought he’d be better there. Hopefully CJ can get back soon and Tony can rotate back.
John Chick will play a big role on our D this year, and flourish. This guy has a MOTOR. Look for him to come in sporadically on 1st and 2nd down, and cause mayhem. You heard it here first. He reminds me of Chad Bratzke.
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by Spiral Boiler 41 on Aug 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
Hi BBS, re: Brandstater....
do u know if the Colts “really” planned to draft him in 2008 before he was grabbed by the Broncos… that may have a bearing on whether he will be kept ont he roster if the Colts carry 3 QBs….. just curious….
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Brandstater
I really have no idea if the Colts wanted Brandstater in ’09. It is important to note that the Colts claimed Brandstater off waivers. They did not sign him as a free agent. Usually, when a player is claimed off waivers, it means the team REALLY wanted him.
I think the Colts will keep three QBs. They do so all last year. They also kept two FG kickers for most of 2009. I doubt they’ll do that again, but three QBs is definitely possible. Plus, in general, I don’t think management is sold on Curtis Painter.
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3 QBs?
What’s the logic in keeping 2 inexperienced QBs (that never play)? The only reason they kept 3 last year was because the Sorg was hurt (shocking!) all season. Painter probably keeps the #2 and Brandstater goes to the PS. It’s not like any other team is coveting either of them.
they kept 3 QB before Sorgi was hurt
Manning, Sorgi and Painter were all on active roster when the season started.
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by Manning4ever on Aug 21, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorgi was on the roster, but hurt the entire year
I think he played one preseason game. Since they drafted Painter it made sense to have him as the emergency QB, which doesn’t count against the 45 man roster on game day.
I can’t see the logic in keeping Brandstater except on the PS unless they think some team would grab him.
I don't think Sorgi got hurt until 2/3 through the season.
Am i remembering wrong?
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That's about the time he went on IR
but I think he was hurt the entire season.
Proof?
I clearly remembered he played some meaningless snaps in a game or two BEFORE he went on IR. Also, in an interview after he was put on IR, he said he was disapponted not to be able to play since it was his time…..
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by Manning4ever on Aug 22, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It appears he was injured in Week 9
Sorgi, who appeared in one game in 2009, had been inactive since Week 9 vs. New England.
Jim Sorgi Injured – WishTV 8
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
He never threw a pass after playing in 1 preseason game
Why are we still discussing this? LOL
I still think we won’t carry 2 inexperienced QBs. The #3 will never see the field, they’ll put Joe in at QB before that.
we are discussing this because some of us, unfortunately,
still want a better backup QB.
The Chargers, The Patriots, The Saints….. it seems to me all of arch-rivals have better QBs than we do.
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by Manning4ever on Aug 22, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I want a better back-up too,
but I’ll live with the better starter.
"Pressure is something you feel when you don't know what the hell you're doing."
-Peyton Manning
Neither the Saints nor Pats
spend money on their backup QB. Volek is the only one that has any real experieince. The Colts use the same strategy.
I hope the better player between Painter and Brandy win the spot, but no way both make the team , IMHO. It’s almost certain the Colts want Painter to win the job since he’s not PS eligible.
geez, why are you guys still discussing this?
/cough
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
haha... awesome.
Careful what you wish for... "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Gerald Ford, 38th US president
BTW, thanks BBS!
due to my ignorance in how the system works, does it mean more that a team claims a player off waivers?? and if yes, how so? Thanks in advance!
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by Manning4ever on Aug 23, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions

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