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Colts Preseason 2010: Shake's Notes On The 59-24 Preseason Loss To Packers

Encouraging

  • Peyton Manning to Reggie Wayne is still straight money.
  • Joseph Addai with 100 yards on just 9 touches.
  • Brody Eldridge was used early and often as the Colts shifted between 3 WR and 2 TE sets.
  • Run D,  Packers were held to 3 YPC and the middle of Muir and Mookie stuffed a big 4th and 1 QB sneak early.
  • Pat Angerer stepped up very well for Brackett making a number of excellent stops against the run and having his great cover skills on a QB rollout highlighted by the ESPN crew.
  • Bob Sanders was back bringing the pain in the secondary and erasing runningbacks foolish enough to elude the front 7.
  • Fili Moala was working with the 1st team D early on.
  • Curtis Painter looked sharp his first time out, leading a TD drive.
  • Ray Fisher ripped off a long kickoff return in answer to the Packers return TD.

Troubling

  • The offensive line. Peyton was consistently harassed and was forced into several early and/or errant throws and after opening a gaping hole in the Packers D on the first play of the game for a 49 yard Addai run, there was very little running room.
  • Pass defense really struggled. Rodgers went 21 for 29, 195 yards, 3 TDs and rarely felt pressure, even against the blitz. Backup Matt Flynn went 8/13 for 80 with 2 TDs and 3rd stringer Harrell went 4/5 for 62. The Packers threw all over the Colts D tonight.
  • Hayden in particular still doesn't look right. Last year I could blame the nagging hamstring, but he's not looking like a 43million dollar CB so far.
  • Brandon James struggled, muffing a punt that shouldn't have been fielded after some soild kickoff returns.
  • Jerry Hughes got worked, single blocked by a TE, in the run game on back to back plays.
  • STs gave up a return TD late. Let's hope that's on the 3rd stringers, not a return to the Colts coverage teams of old.
  • Two fumbled QB-Center exchanges with Painter in the game.

ARGHHH!!OMGWTF!!!!!11!!!

  • Injuries, Gary Brackett left with an arm injury was seen on the sidelines in a sling. Rumor is a broken arm. Also Ugoh injured a toe, Lacey picked up a concussion and Addai may have gotten one as well.
  • The new umpire position totally kills the hurry up. Peyton pushed the tempo the whole time he was in and was flagged twice for snaps before the ump was set in his new position.
Poll
How do you feel about the team after tonight?
Better
25 votes
About the same
268 votes
Getting concerned
603 votes
Doom and Gloom
140 votes

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Can they change that rule?

"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning

by P0RKINS2 on Aug 26, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

They can

but I doubt they will. The Comish was at the game tonight to monitor how it went. It needs to be changed. It obviously threw the Colts off completely. Not that is was the deciding factor, but it plated a big role. If the Colts can’t get on a role then they start to struggle. IMO

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think this rule was made to stop the hurry up offense like I said in another post.
I truly believe they are out to limit Manning there for the Colts, that fat old bastard ref was clearly in there to mess with Manning and nothing anyone could say will change my opinion on that.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 26, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you....

it is sad…

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to that ref

He was one of the refs that knocked an NFL player down last year from the old position (I think ESPN was showing replays). I doubt he was the one calling for the new rule.

by kasey_junk on Aug 27, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

In the end, Manning needs to calm down and adapt to this new rule. Aaron Rodgers just did his thing with issues, didn’t pout, etc.

If you can’t chain the rule, blowing 5 yards every set of downs on such penalties is silly.

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang it!

I’m like a typo idiot. Sorry. “without issue”. I should go to bed.

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't just

adapt to a rule that changes the whole way your offense is run. It needs to be changed. It will ruin this team if not. And if you don’t believe me, watch that game again.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya

…that’s true – but didn’t Manning know this was coming? Can’t they practice dealing with this?

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can you deal with something that’s going to take away one of your biggest play making capabilities.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 27, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Manning needs to calm down, that’s just ludicrous, how would you feel if you have a person standing right behind your right shoulder almost touching you while you are trying to do your job.
As for"Rodgers did his thing without issues", the hurry up offense isn’t part of his thing.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 27, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wowsers

Manning looked off, Colts looked bad. Manning has got to stop pouting and shaking his. The two short dumps to Wayne were a disaster! I mean, he got no yards. Addai did well running, for the most part.

I dunno, should I be concerned? I know, pre-season. But compare this to the Packers, who were on fire – and…I dunno.

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

You should be concerned

that you think Manning is any part of the problem. He has got to stop pouting and shaking his head? Right, because he should be all sunshine and giggles when his line gives little time, and they give the RBs no room to run. You know what happens when you can’t run? A good defense will take your one dimensional game to its advantage and quit worrying about run and focusing extra attention on the pass. Those short dumps where “I mean, he got no yards?!?!?!” were the plays called by the offensive coordinator, which Manning clearly expressed his disappointment just as he did when the refs kept screwing him by not getting out of the damn way. You see, Peyton is the best, so he expects the best out of his team. When he gets crap out of his team, he gets pissed.

My advice to you? Be concerned that you don’t know a damn thing about how this team or the game of football works. Being upset with the team is one thing, but making dumbass comments like that about manning expose you either as a poser or just a pathetic excuse for a fan. Know something. Then talk.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Aug 26, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely.
A good defense will take your one dimensional game to its advantage and quit worrying about run and focusing extra attention on the pass.

by etid5353 on Aug 26, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow --

…on the other hand, don’t be a johnny-jackass and blast me for posting my opinion. I think I know a little about the game. And pouting and sitting on the bench just looks silly. I realize he’s upset and care, but don’t be pouty.

I didn’t suggest Manning called the Wayne plays, just that the plays were terrible calls.

Geez, dude, take a pill.

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No....

anyone who accuses Manning of pouting is a moronic tool. It takes more than three preseason games where you get maybe three full quarters of PT before adapting to a rule.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Aug 26, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely agree.....

Manning has been doing the hurry-up offense nearly his whole career and perfecting it…. it is a revolution on its own right… now a rule is designed to take away that ability…. it will be stupid not to try to force the issue and have it changed back… if that is possible.

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

So are you saying...

It was a good defense, or poor offense, or both? (not to mention the Ref situation)

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have to say both

The o-line wasn’t helping in the run game at all, so the Colts had to go with passing to get anywhere. That, IMO, is poor offense, regardless of how well PM throws the ball. Couple that with some very talented players on the Packers defense (particularly that rookie safety) and you’ve got the recipe for another wonderful preseason loss.

by etid5353 on Aug 26, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm saying you're avatar

is more qualified to comment on football than you. You don’t use the word “pouty” unless you are referring to a two year old infant girl, and you certainly don’t use it to disrespect the player who has single handedly built this franchise.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Aug 26, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

What’s up with the personal attacks here npb? I don’t think anyone is saying anything about disrespecting Peyton, I think buymymonkey was making an observation that Peyton got pissy about the ref rule and he showed it a little too much…play your football and then make a case about it…it isn’t like the refs are gonna change the rule in the middle of the game. There is nothing that could have been done about it at the time. Yes maybe pouty isn’t the right choice of words, but he clearly voiced and showed his frustration more than he has in years in the middle of the game.

And please, Peyton is human and is entitled to his eff-ups…lets stop with the its never his fault game…every player on every team will make a mistake at some point and to point the blame solely elsewhere is ridiculous. The pick he threw was 100% his fault…he didn’t scan the right hand side of the field to see the safety creep into coverage to jump the route…big deal, he made a mistake and he’ll make many more.

Is he the best QB in the league? Yes. Would the Colts blow without him? Yes. Will he throw more picks this season? Yes. Will some of them be his fault? Yes. Will they win the Superbowl this year? F*ck Yes.

"There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. " - Nigel Powers

by Z.Pain on Aug 27, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

We bitched about Brady for calling for flags on the Brady rule.

Peyton will get the same treatment if he keeps bitching at refs.

That being said. I don’t give a damn what anyone else thinks, I hope he keeps bitching at refs.

53% of statistics are made up on the spot.

by Bri Bri on Aug 27, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree that he should keep on bitching....

squeaky wheels get the grease?? or sth like that….

If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!

by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

If I wanted to get pummeled for posting any opinions, I’d post on the IndyStar site! :-)

Hey, I’m as frustrated as you guys are about what happened. And I’m not a football expert by any means, but to say I know nothing about football is not accurate either.

I think sometimes Manning gets too peeved at himself, or the team, or his offensive coordinator and it ends up stressing him out more and he plays even more poorly and starts trying to force things. But I also agree that Manning is the #1 reason we ever make the playoffs.

Anyway – I went to bed and I feel better. Hopefully everyone else does as well.

by buymymonkey on Aug 27, 2010 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Manning is a stubborn man

It’s true. BUT… this rule has shit to do with safety and EVERYTHING to do with handicapping the teams that MURDER the rest league every year. He should complain. Better, Polian should complain. And he had reason to bitch at Clyde Christensen: every “bubble” screen he called unfolded with NO BLOCKERS and he continued to call the fucking play. The first team definitely has some kinks to work out, but our HOF QB’s attitude problems are FAR down the list.

BTW you take abuse like a man. And I would like to make an offer on your monkey.

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Aug 27, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its my impression or....

the game clock already rolling when Manning calls snap and the refs calls a “snap illegal” foul?

i’m sure that the clock are rolling…so a QB can call a snap… right?

by danielper on Aug 26, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Should be

yes the clock was ticking when he snapped every time, but this new rule is so douchey that it’s still an illegal snap. If the refs feel they are in danger, they need to get a career change. This is football. If you’re on the field, you are knowingly putting yourself at risk. Don’t like it? Go work somewhere else.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and..

And all two times, the ref are behind Manning…this is what made me so angry…. Two bad calls

by danielper on Aug 26, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The refs

have to be behind the RB….that’s why they were called.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't think so -

I think when the sideline ref points at the ball, then the clock starts. At that point, the ref who previously was positioned in the defense, is supposed to get back behind the offensive player furthest from the line of scrimmage before the QB can snap the ball. Both the pointing and the getting behind the RB (usually) happen at the same time. Manning would push it by snapping as the sideline ref raised his had. But the other ref was still in line with Addai and so the flag was thrown.

Silly stuff, and I think Manning was just “trying things out” tonight. Too bad it was such a plastering.

by buymymonkey on Aug 26, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because Moala was working with the first team...

Doesn’t mean he’s first team material. Mookie must have been hurt. Moala got shoved around pretty good out there tonight.

by Collin McCollough on Aug 26, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Completely disagree

Moala had a great game. He was stuffing run lanes and getting inside pressure on lots of plays. I thought he and Angerer were parts of the highlights of the game.

by kasey_junk on Aug 27, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

and MOOkie was in for the 2nd half

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Aug 27, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Manning is being interviewd

and he is PISSED to say the least about this new bull shit rule

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Good I hope he tells them to get some ref’s in there that can get the hell out of the way so it wont slow down “HIS” offense.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 26, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This should be interesting

This’ll really show who runs shit – PM is pretty much the “face of the NFL”, I’m interested in seeing how much pull he has..

by etid5353 on Aug 26, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say

that he has some pull, but Comish, IMO, is a douche bag. Every rule he has put into effect since taking over is taking away from what football really is. So, will it change? Doubt it.

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's still just a player

PM will get headlines, but Polian carries the big stick

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Aug 27, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Aug 26, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

now Caldwell is blasting the refs being pussies! haha I love it.

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

On the radio

Our heads may be bloody, but they are unbowed. We will be back next year better than ever!
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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

figures

All this technology, and its usually the oldest medium still used that has the best info.

by etid5353 on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I just love listening to Bob Lamey. He’s such a homer.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 26, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah!

He’s awesome! Nobody can scream the word “TOUCHDOWN” quite like him!

by etid5353 on Aug 27, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

This team has got severe problems right now

Granted, the Packers look like a Super Bowl caliber team and Rodgers an MVP caliber QB, to say we looked abysmal is a complement. Tonight, aside from a season altering injury to Brackett and injuries to Addai and Lacey, we saw Freeney and Mathis put little, if any, pressure on Rodgers who I think hit the ground maybe once. Just as we saw in the SB we saw tonight that when the rush is prevented, it exposes our weak coverage skills in the secondary. What we never saw last season was the stupid penalties we saw tonight. Humiliating. With no run game to speak of thanks to the complete absence of anything resembling run blocking from the same crappy unit we have no choice to use, it forces to Manning to throw all…the…..time, which allows the secondary to focus on only pass coverage. No matter how awesome our WRs are, you can’t do a lot against a good D when they know it’s a pass play every time. Ump shift is the worst rule change in NFL history. F**k yourself, Goodell. Tonight was a wake up call for this team to get it’s crap together and rediscover the formula to being dominant. It was a wake up call to the fans by saying, “hey, temper your expectations. We can be pretty awful.” Preseason or not, this was pathetic and depressing to watch. I’m not saying we can’t bounce back from this, but I do not expect to be a juggernaut, either.

"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning

by npb1985 on Aug 27, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

settle down

I know it was hard to watch, but the Colts have a habit of doing this in the preseason. We got beat by the detroit lions in the 3rd preseason game last year. We rushed for 50 yards in that game.

Some things I did notice:

- Linkenbach (??72) is a liability out there. He was getting man handled. I don’t want him on the field at the same time as Manning any more.
- I’m officially on the Mike Pollack is a bust train.
- I hate the blitz packages. Last week I said we were going to get torn apart by a good qb bringing that nonsense and that is what happened tonight.
- Brandon James made a bone headed play, but the rest of his game was pretty solid (including special teams tackles!)
- Painter deserves more time.
- Addai is a damn fine back, and we all owe him an apology.
- Does it really make sense to put Freeney in Mathis into coverage? The best QB pressure tandem in the league playing zone coverage. Really? Really?
- Is there a special rule about the refs and the new position during the 2 minute drill? I’m not really bitching cause we all knew this was going to happen, but while the Packers ran their 2 minute drill the refs were in the old spot.

by kasey_junk on Aug 27, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

On your last note....

Peyton seemingly runs the two minute drill throughout the game, at times. Thus, they are in their normal “behind the LOS” new position. During the action two minutes, they are in the old position.

53% of statistics are made up on the spot.

by Bri Bri on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Under 2 minutes the ump reverts back to the old position in the defensive backfield

by Lell87 on Aug 27, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you on Addai

When he got into space he was a beast. Our o-line still scares the shit outta me.

Gotta disagree on Brandon James though. He did “ok” but with D. Moore and Fisher shining in the return game I just don’t see a roster spot being available to him.

by etid5353 on Aug 27, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to add

Brandon James needs to be cut for that one HUGE mistake. Once he screwed up a punt that he had NO BUSINESS touching in the first place, he should have given his jersey up.

Cut his ass and make him walk home.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

After that

Murphy’s law took effect and the whole team sucked.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear that - total deflation on every side of the ball.

That dude needs to go, and he needs to have the whole team line up and kick him in the ass as he’s leaving. I’m a Gators fan, but I’m ashamed that he wore the blue and orange!

by etid5353 on Aug 27, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Heard of this guy?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7806/career;ylt=Av2c05YrsFC3iI2_4n21mqvOot4

He has fumbled/muffed punts before…I am sure James will get coached up again and hopefully still be on the team. Make your mistakes now and not when it counts.

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by Z.Pain on Aug 27, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got to disagree.

If your sole role is to field punts/kickoffs, then you can’t muff them in your very few auditions. Moore has a stranglehold on the returner position right now.

53% of statistics are made up on the spot.

by Bri Bri on Aug 27, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

but he is a rookie with limited NFL experience…I am sure his decision making and timing will get better…to cut someone for one mistake is insane…if he does it when it counts, yeah, than I’d say we could reconsider.

"There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. " - Nigel Powers

by Z.Pain on Aug 27, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he does it when it counts...

What is the pre-season for and why audition them at all?

53% of statistics are made up on the spot.

by Bri Bri on Aug 27, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pre Season

is the time for the noobs and rookies to prove that they have what it takes to make the team. IMO, mistakes have to be kept to an absolute minimum, and considering Brandon James was brought in to compete for the returners spot, a mistake like that is a huge strike against him. When you are that close to the goal line, let it go. Don’t even try to touch it, just run away if you’re tempted. I think this is gonna be a bad spot for Brandon James’ case to make the team. There are too many other guys competing for that spot to make a mistake like that.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In all fairness

I think James wanted to insure the ball didn’t get downed inside the 10…he hesitated for a split second and it cost him…but again, he had done a lot of positive things throughout the game..his KR were decent. I think returning a punt is one of the hardest things to do in the NFL, and for that, I think he needs to be given another chance. To strike the guy off the team for screwing up once on an “audition” is no good.

Not to bring this up, but here is an “audition” of the biggest d-bag ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g93MuptlSqo

Hate to say it, but he did alright in the NFL. You can’t necessarily judge everything based on an audition…players grow and develop. They become smarter and better decision makers, regardless of how important or minimal their roles are.

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by Z.Pain on Aug 27, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately, that is what the preseason games are for....

if there are no better returners, it may be a different story.. but there seem to be one.

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess ultimately

we have no say…no matter who they choose, just give #18 some decent field position so we can light up the score boards….

But off topic, the thing that scares me more than anything this year is #18 taking the hits cuz of his O-line…I thought they looked half decent at first, than I watched the first half again…ugly.

"There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. " - Nigel Powers

by Z.Pain on Aug 27, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

from someone who played football

the harp on returners in that position was “put your feet on the 10 yard line. If it’s over your head let it go, if it’s in front of you, field it.” That’s like the base fundamental of returns. Brandon James went totally against that. I see what you are saying, but I just think its a bad. bad mistake.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't agree at all

Moore looked good against a terrible ST unit. Other than the muff James looked good against a good ST unit. Doubt James will try to field any more unfieldable punts from now on.

Other thing I notice was that he was out there making St tackles, which I didn’t expect from such a little guy.

by kasey_junk on Aug 27, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't see the ST tackles.

That is a positive in his direction. That being said, I’m a catch it first, everything else is butter, returner fan, and if you are going to be risky, well in your few attempts those risks better pay off.

53% of statistics are made up on the spot.

by Bri Bri on Aug 27, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 refs

went down last year…THREE in all those games. That’s not enough to make a rule change. You take the job knowing the risks. Deal with it, or move on the better pastures cause being a ref in the NFL isn’t cut out for you.

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Calm down it is still the 3rd game

Agreed the new rule is screwing up the timing of the hurry up offense….It is still Manning we are talking about people and he will definetly adjust to this new rule in a couple of games .I am pretty sure Caldwell would know the real picture and unfortunately if the new rule stays (Which I think will since the Commish is an absolute stubborn idiot ) the coach will work something out in practise.

The O Line is something to be really concerned about…It is absolute shit…no more apologies for Linkenbach , Pollack and rest of the jokers..The line is absolutely porous.

The pass defense will definetly improve with time and so will the blitz packages.

I only pray the Oline gets better…the new rule is just exposing the weakness of this line further.

by Horseshoe_Tsunami on Aug 27, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

My problem is

this game is the one pre season game the Colts spend time game planning on. And it looked BAD…

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree somewhat

:( Yup what you state is true…..but when you have a stinking Oline it would not matter how so much they plan.

I would love to think otherwise , all preseason have seen explanations for Linkenbach and other predictions…but am tired of them.

This Oline is porous as a cheesecake.

by Horseshoe_Tsunami on Aug 27, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wish we could have cut Wheeler... so he didn't put that hit on Brackett

Brackett is too valuable for the D

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes...

Wheeler blows..oh, and Addai did in fact suffer that concussion

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by Z.Pain on Aug 27, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to hide and cry tonite....

I love Addai!! He is such a great back that he is always under-appreciated….. hope the concussion is mild….

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the rule regarding the position of the refs changes when it comes to 2 min drill

then NFL does nothing but accept that the rule was put in place to slow down the no huddle offenses

by codrutc on Aug 27, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

You said it there you said it....

Did Peyton do anything to piss off the NFL??? while everything is falling apart and junk is being talked up? The refs clearly have a jealousy complex last SB and now the new rule?? Maybe Peyton had them running too fast all the time and this is the chance to get back at him…
oh, btw, even with the new rule, i saw a ref hurt in one of the pre-season games…. so??

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jacob Lacey

suffered a concussion tonight as well as Addai :/

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by coltsfan723 on Aug 27, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I am going to double-cry tonite....

for Addai and Lacey!
This is BS!

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why the rule has the ump change back to his old position on the defensive side of the ball for two minute drills. That aspect of the rule acknowledges that a quick, no huddle offense is strategy but then it penalizes the teams who use that strategy throughout the entirety of the game.

by Lell87 on Aug 27, 2010 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Just like codrutc said above...

it is a rule for Peyton but in a good way….

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

JerMichael Finley.....

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Enjoy your company, bucko.

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by Bri Bri on Aug 27, 2010 1:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Painter

I need to give this rule change and bad o line a rest for a while.
So what’s your view on Painter, for me, as negative as I was about him before I believe there may be some hope for him, he really didn’t look bad tonight.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 27, 2010 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Even Ugoh shows flashes...

his 2nd drive is not that impressive… seems like he at least did well on the last 2 opening drives for himself…. that is all i can say.

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by Manning4ever on Aug 27, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

The comments on this site never cease to amaze me. The fact that people here are analyzing this game and thinking it will have any sort of relevance come week one is just hilarious. The Colts always look mediocre in the preseason, even with the starters. It’s not a big deal at all. What is worrisome is all of the goddamn injuries. Evidently this team is incapable squashing that injury bug.

by KingRichard on Aug 27, 2010 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed

As for the injury bug, in general I’ve decided that is just the major weakness of the Colts system. Because they pick smaller guys they just can’t take as much punishment and because we have so many resources locked up in a few major players there isn’t a lot of depth behind the first stringers.

I also think that the Colts may not have the best training/medical staff. We’ve seen too often guys go down with training injuries (torn pecs, etc.) and seemingly less problematic injuries get worse than they should (Gonzo & Manning’s knee).

Having said that, the injuries last night were just plain old football injuries. Concussions and (probable) broken arms happen to every team and there isn’t much you can do about it.

by kasey_junk on Aug 27, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

so glad we can amuse you guys....

my pleasure, personally…….

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by Manning4ever on Aug 28, 2010 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brackett

I hope his injury is a hand injury and not an arm injury. Put that hand in a cast and get him back out on the field! Angerer is a good backup, but Brackett is much too important, and in the most important defensive position, to be out for a long period of time.

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by AceOfSpades on Aug 27, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Brackett

I just said in another post – I think Angerer is going to be a stud – however in coverage he looked “lost” out there IMO.

This is something that he will just have to get better at – something that Gary does very well and doesn’t get much praise for.

I have never been a Gary fan – but man I am starting to think about him not being out there – and as much as I would like to Angerer become the next rookie stud – I think for right now him being out there for Gary would hurt us – quite a bit….

Especially against some pretty good QB’s – Schaub, Manning for the first two weeks.

How does everyone else think Angerer looked in coverage?

by IT GOD on Aug 27, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better than you give him credit for

Newton SUCKED, Lambert SUCKED, Hayden SUCKED, etc…

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by naptown_ninja on Aug 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hayden looked bad last night his lack of effort shows.

by Ufanforreal on Aug 27, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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