Colts struggle mightily in pass pro/run D in 34-24 loss @ Texans
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 4:10 PM EDT
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Key miscues by the offense left the Colts unable to compensate for very poor protection and run defense. Early drops by Pierre Garcon forced the Colts to punt from midfield and kick a short FG, a 3rd and long sack took the Colts out of FG position, confusion on the O-line forced the Colts to burn two of their 2nd half TOs early, allowing the Texans to run out the clock much more easily, and an Austin Collie fumble inside the 10 ended another big scoring opportunity. Those miscues kept the Colts from covering up major struggles in run D and pass protection.
Peyton lived on checkdowns most of the game and was sacked twice as the Texans were able to apply pressure all game. Meanwhile Texans backs Arian Foster and Steve Slaton ground out yardage and drained the clock with over 250 yards on the ground.
The Texans threw only 19 passes, but the threat of a potent passing game kept the Colts safeties back, opening up extra room for the Texans run game.
The Colts need to pass protect and defend the run better, but the miscues on offense put the Colts into a death spiral. Trailing all game tipped both teams playcalling away from the Colts ideal. The Texans were able to use a run heavy attack with 40 runs to 19 passes, while the Colts were forced to abandon any semblance of balance, running just 10 times vs 58 passes. The Colts are built to play close and with a lead.
The Colts can compete with sub-par protection and run D, but they can't afford any mistakes on offense when those units struggle to this extent.
I still have high hopes for this team, but the offense needs to execute to their usual high standard while the offensive line and run D need to give them some margin for error.
Normally I'd post a gameball poll, but I can't think of anyone but Joseph Addai who impressed me today turning shaky run blocking and checkdown passes into 73 yards of offense with 4.4 YPC.
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that. was. unpleasant.
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Did BBS write your headline?
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions
no, I've got it fixed though
; )
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
much bettr.
:)
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Garcon’s drops murdered two drives dead.
I’m also taking bets on whether #21 hits IR.
Did Gonzo come back?
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No
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My money's on both then.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanders
I personally think is fine…just a scare and didnt want him back out there period. The guy didnt want to come off the field. I read he was concussed and I think thats why he didn’t come back in
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That was ugly
one plus? Peyton Manning is still alive
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Although a little foggy, I suspect.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Run D
Looked JV at best. Can’t win game after game having shoot outs
by cwill111 on Sep 12, 2010 4:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Meh.
I don’t like the game either myself. But at least Indy knows what they need to work on now. Better to have the wakeup call on game 1 than game 16.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
well...
The Colts can compete with sub-par protection and run D, but they can’t afford any mistakes on offense when those units struggle to this extent.
I can’t say I agree. This is football. No matter who we have under center, things like this (mistakes) are going to happen from time to time.
The systematic, repeated failures of the O-Line to pass protect, and the D-Line to get any push to contain the run are the much, much bigger issues. Are we really going to say we lost this game because of a few key mistakes, when we couldn’t do two of the most basic fundamental aspects of football correctly?
the purpose of highlighting the offense mistakes was to point out the game was winnable
they won’t be a very good team without better play from the OL and run D, but they could have won this game with a better performance in those handful of plays.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The D-Line
gets a minor pass simply because the Offense couldn’t stay on the field. Eventually, our smaller defense will get worn down and that’s ultimately what happened here….
Shake has the right of it, fix the OL issues, catch a few balls here, and this game was absolutely winnable.
Between the fumble by Collie and the inexcusable play of the O-line, this game was ours and we let the Texans take it…
Kudos to the Texans for winning their seasons SB, because they still have yet to make the playoffs..
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, the game was still winnable
But how long are we going to continue to put ourselves in position where we have win in spite of an O-Line who can’t hold a pass rush for three seconds, and a D-Line who can’t hold the run to less than five yards when we know the run is coming right at us.
No doubt the mistakes hurt us. But from a personnel standpoint, and a practice/gameplan/preparation standpoint, it SHOULD be much easier to address and correct systematic failures of the O-Line and D-Line, than a few inopportune, poorly-timed mistakes.
Some things you can prepare for, and some things you can. I hope this is a wake up call to the coaching staff and front office. We’ve watched the O-Line steadily decline for years, and I think we all knew, while wanting to believe otherwise, that nothing was done to correct this during the offseason.
by jochexum on Sep 12, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's as bad as it gets folks
i think our comeback karma against the texans just ran out. If we want to win any games this year we have to play better, bottom line. this could have happened week 12, but instead it’s week 1. we just have to get better.
p.s. i’m sick and fucking tired of bob sanders hurt. i’ve reached my “done with him” point.
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
Man....some things
you can just count on. The Indy run defense being porous beyond belief if one of them. Year in and year out…..they never seem to get a grip on it. Idiot Polian can’t come close to fixing the offensive line, and special teams…..well….need I say more.
Manning did a he could to win but he can't do everything himself.
Just like in 2008, we’ll regroup and come back to beat the Giants @ Home next week. I’m still seeing 12-4 and a Division Title for us. Texans will lose to someone they’re supposed to beat somewhere along the line. Still they look good enough to win 10 or 11 games.
"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning
by P0RKINS2 on Sep 12, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not too worried about the defense
I just want Polian to get the ball rolling for a trade for a LT.
"The essence of being human is that one does not seek perfection."-George Orwell
I also want a stud LT!!
where can we find him….? and is Polian going to use his genius to get one My heart sank when I saw Peyton took ALL those hits and lied face down on the ground for a few seconds… I am really afraid……
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Sep 12, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know who
But Sanders landed directly on his head/neck. That’s a vicious blow for anyone…and with the league’s mandated enforcement on concussions, I’m wagering this was more precaution than anything else…
THIS!!
its already been reported he suffered a concussion. Not sure the credibility of the source, but he looked gazed after that hit
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Last year, Sanders
was put on IR with a biceps injury which was first reported to be an elbow injury.
Colts have to commit less errors early. Drops, plus holding on Saturday, plus Manning wanting to change every play left 6-14 points on the board.
I think that the injury
report was wrong. He was barely involved in any plays, and the only significant one was when he landed on his head. My bet is simply an error….
However, if he lands on IR this year….he’s done with the Colts…
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we don't have to worry about an undefeated season.....
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by Ram27 on Sep 12, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah... that is what i thought..... no more argument on that this year.
and we may actually win the SB by losing to the Texans just 1 game.
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Sep 12, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Good call on the gameball
Joe was deserving (as was Peyton but that goes without saying).
Brown is looking more like a bust everytime I see him. Still doesn’t know his blocking assignments.
i was telling my buddy that i think brown will end up being the biggest bust of the polian era. the guy can’t do anything, run, catch, or bock
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
Bigger than Ugoh?
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
without a doubt
he was a first round pick. a luxury pick, and polian wiffed. nothign worse that than
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
Brown was supposed to compete for the starting job with Addai
As many people criticize him. But damn, Addai is probably the second best player on the offensive side. We can’t afford to spend a 1st rnd pick on backups
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
3rd.
Reggie is 2.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Addai catches, runs with virtually nothing and is the best pass blocking RB in the entire league
Wayne “just” catches
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
He's probably the 3rd best player on the offensive line
And that’s sad, considering that he’s a running back, not a lineman or a TE.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
wait the running back from CT?
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Not one colts starting linemen would make most teams. keep that in mind.
well maybe Diem, maybe Saturday. maybe.
Joe is not just a better blocker than Brown
He’s a standout EXCELLENT blocker, period. Probably the best blocking back in all of football.
Brown has the talent
but our O-line is atrocious……and even Joe Addai, who’s been here awhile…..is struggling…
You can’t slam him for things outside his control. Yes he could play better, but the O-line play is a bigger issue…
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Brown almost got Peyton killed!
Still waiting to see that ‘talent’
When
you rely on a RB to constantly block pass rushers, you got bigger issues…..
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This ^^
Brown may have screwed up, but handling the edge rush is supposed to be the job of the tackle. The backfield player should at most be helping or chipping, not picking him up entirely.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I'll be the first to say it....
“Godamnnit, Donald!”
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The more Addai plays, the more he shows everybody what he can do.
The hits he takes, the plays he makes and the resilience he has…. i want him to stay with the Colts after this year too. Brown really doesn’t seem to get it….. :( sad….. i like him.
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Sep 12, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a little concerned about the defensive mindset
You’ll have a hard time convincing me that the D didn’t quit. Really no excuse for that 4th quarter effort.
I know i may be damned....
but Brock may actually be a better pick-me-up for the Defense when all hopes were lost. If he was on the field, there may be some sort of leadership at least for comeback plays…. he had a few vs the Texans if i remember correctly.
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Sep 12, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know what to feel
it’s only wk1, wk2 better see some improvement
Game ball?
I would give one to Peyton — He did everything he needed to do, but he can’t block, catch or play run defense. Other than he and Addai, the rest were fairly worthless.
Mannings numbers please?
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how many times was Manning sacked
just wondering
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Twice
but he was hurried and hit like crazy.
ouch
i assume from the LT spot?
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Once was
because the Colts forgot to block Mario Williams….how? I have no clue
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Wrong
Several people failed to pick their assignment….and there were 3 players in that area who not even so much as touched Williams…
Brown, Johnson, and Clark…..
It was a piss poor effort on all 3…..assignments be damned….you do NOT let a guy go free like that….PERIOD.
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is correct. Brown was at best the help, not the primary blocker on Williams.
The line whiffed. How, I don’t know. But at best, Brown was assigned to pick up the interior rush, not the edge. I don’t recall any time the backfield guy in the Colts offense goes to that spot and is supposed to pick up the edge rush. Heck, how many times is the backfield blocker supposed to pick up the edge rush period? I honestly can’t remember any cases where that’s the job; they’re normally there to pick up the blitz, not the edge rush.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
or more....i am very worried....
If you see my smilieys, think of E.M.H. - our COLTs King of Smileys!
by Manning4ever on Sep 12, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
In a lot of ways our gameplanning just made no sense
No help on the edges at ALL. CJ was blocking Super Mario one-on-one constantly, even DALLAS was asked to take him totally alone. Gotta get Eldridge in there.
Brody is my new favorite but do we know if he's ready playbook-wise yet?
and know all of the checkdowns.
Fuck checkdowns
Stick him in there on CJ’s hip. Every play you have outside contain. Go do it.
Jags win
Colts fall behind in the AFC South fast
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yes game ball Peyton
Collie doesn’t fumble , most likely they make a TD on that drive and the game is totally changed, take away the drops and Peyton hardly made any bad throws
Except that one almost-pick
but that wasn’t really his fault.
exactly
on that one, he kind of tripped
by metal_militia on Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
He was hit as he released the ball, which altered his throw….
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Peyton suffers from his own greatness here
I expect Peyton to do what he did today.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That fumble by Collie
may have cost the Cost the game. And, Garcon………he’s still dropping passes at a ridiculous rate.
Garçon's unreliable
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
Heartbreaking
And it was a nice catch, too.
Collie had both arms around it, but it was a strange hit. Two defenders in sequence with the second almost sliding across his chest.
I knew the ball was going to roll out, but I didn’t want to believe it. We needed that score.
Last year we were 1-0 in our division
everyone else lost.
Just the opposite this year.
Amazingly
that might qualify as good news for him. I thought for sure his ACL was destroyed.
I thought his whole knee was shredded
his lower leg was at the wrong angle to his upper leg
How can you not love a team that does this?
Yeesh.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
knew it was bad when they zoomed in on him on the field and one foot was pointed to the side...
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Too soon to panic?
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
way too soon
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Marked lives his life on the edge.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I will have the button installed later this week.
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuban Missle Crisis ain't got nothin' on you.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were president then, we would now be a soviet state of the glorious soviet union.
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
In Soviet Russia, Hoosier marks you!
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh? Eh comrades? Eh?
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, man.
I’ve missed open threads.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. But I want you to jump anyway.
I need the entertainment. ;)
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
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"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well... if you jump, I can't call ya anyway.
Funny how that works out. 
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I am sooo haunting you.
…after I haunt Alyson Hannigan.
On second thought, I will have better things to do.
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
But that's the wrong approach.
You see, the goal is to steal her away from that Nancy boy she met on Buffy, then show her things that normally only appear in a certain ancient Sanskrit text. 
Kinda hard to do as a ghost, ya know.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
oh ye of little faith...
you have forgotten the lessons learned from the movie High Spirits.
It all works out in the end. 
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
IT IS ONLY WEEK 1
The eventual champs in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2007 all lost their opener. All of them.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
And in 06 we lost to the Texans.
"We’re only going to score 17 points? haha...OK" - Tom Brady
Last piece of Colts merch added to my collection: Riddell Authentic Revolution Helmet!.
by BlueMark1821 on Sep 12, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And the champs in 04, 05, 06, 08, and 09 didn't.
It’s almost as if your opener has nothing to do with whether you win or not.
Back to back SB?
With such a shaky OL, I don’t think so…
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
Didn't we lose to the Texans
and also gave up an unheard of amount of yards rushing one other year?
How did we do that year?
Yep. That'll do
Giants didn’t look that great either.
I don’t see how you can “fix” an o-line once the season started. This isn’t baseball… teams don’t trade good players for no reason. Especially on the o-line.
I mean… isn’t everyone that started for our o-line are who we thought they were? did anyone REALLY expect anything else in this game?
Our o-line being shitty? Garcon dropping easy catches? Our run defense being piss poor? Sander hurt? Gonzo hurt?
People are shocked by this????
Is it any reason to panic? No, not yet. If collie doesn’t fumble (it was a fluke fumble) we are still right there. But this isn’t going to be no easy waltz through the division…
Oh and brown is looking worse and worse…
by dbcb on Sep 12, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I actually agree with this.
We have the line that we have. Better start thinking outside the box with the O.
2nd. The line will get better
I’m not sure what to make of that defense
Will DBrown be another bust?
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
He'd get more reps
if he knew his blocking assignments. That’s job 1
yep
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Pay someone
to come in this O line…Marcus McNeil would be a good start
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by coltsfan723 on Sep 12, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Anyone have a phone number for him.
Bill Polian needs it today.
Him
or Jarred Gaither please
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I'd be surprised if either of those things happen.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well duh
Polian’s not gonna do anything about it, even though the O Line caused a hit on Manning and he laid on the ground for a good 20 seconds afterwards
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Rietz FTW!
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...
that guy who was inactive today? :P
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Allowed less sacks than CJ.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Would not surprise me in the least
If Rietz saw time on the O-line this week….. there was no way he was going to be ready by this week to play…..the Colts knew that…
But this coming week? Definitely time…
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not that Polian won't try
but if I were another GM, I wouldn’t want to trade a solid OL for anyone / anything the Colts have to offer. I would prefer to watch the Colts start sinking in the conference.
How can you not love a team that does this?
That's really about as bad
as it gets and the Colts still had a chance to win due primarily…..to Manning. The rest of the team is very suspect.
run defense is really a mental thing. They can stop the run.... just not today.
The pass rush looked pretty good, as did the pass defense as a whole.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
silverlinning
Peyton is the best QB in the game, no one can deny that after the game he threw with such a joke of an OL.. anyone else and this game could’ve been uglier
He's the reason
Polian has looked good the past several years. The answer is Manning. Polian is not nearly the great football guy people think he is. New slogan…….In Polian I don’t trust.
Anyone who disputes this
is the biggest moron on the planet. There is no longer any argument just how great he is. It is just unfortunate he has to deal with all this crap. He deserves far better from his team, coaching and especially management. He sure as hell better get it, too, because if otherwise, I would not blame him for electing to explore his options elsewhere rather than sign an extension (Yes, that will NEVER happen, at least I hope to God it doesn’t, but with what I saw today, I imagine Peyton is absolutely furious and he should be).
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
With any other team
Manning would have at least 4 or 5 superbowl victories by now. And yes, Peyton should be furious. He should have been furious after last season’s derailing of a perfect season. Hopefully, this team can get it’s act together, but after watching the pre-season Green Bay game, I had my doubts. I still trust in Peyton. But his supporting cast sucks for the most part, especially the management.
Addai, is receiving core, Mathis, Freeney, Sanders, Bethea, and Brackett are great.
Otherwise his suporting cast leaves much to be desired. You can’t win a Superbowl w/ a few All-Stars, a good receiving core, and bad role players. Maybe in the NBA, but not in the NFL.
"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning
by P0RKINS2 on Sep 12, 2010 6:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is anyone really surprised by the loss
after the crap that was the Green Bay preseason game? People kept saying “only a preseason game” but it was ones vs ones and we were exposed.
Bob Sanders has once and for all proven his complete worthlessness to this team. I have been one of his biggest supporters over the past couple of seasons, but if he is going to be that stupid and dive head first to tackle a guy already in the process of being tackled rather than act like a safety and go for the pick, then I don’t know how he helps this team. Bullitt should start and Sanders should have been traded long ago. Same goes for Gonzo. I don’t know his status, but the foot out of bounds catch was just amateur crap that a professional should not do.
Caldwell coached a horrific game and refused to be a man and go for any fourth downs at midfield until he absolutely had to. He coached like the same coward we saw in the Super Bowl. Christensen….not a lot to say. How any OC would think risking destruction of his QBs arm by throwing almost 60 times while running only 10 is beyond me.
I would also like to personally thank Polian for not only failing to address ANY weaknesses in the offseason, but in fact further weakening them. His first round pick from 2 yrs ago, Brown, is riding the bench. Thank you Bill. Thanks for surrounding the man who made this team, Peyton, with virtually nothing.
Run D was a joke. As of right now we are easily the worst team in the AFC South, because if Arian Foster can look like the offspring of Barry Sanders and Jim Brown, then I CAN"T WAIT to see what Chris Johnson and MJD do against us. Truly disgusting and pathetic display by the defense.
OL was also an atrocity. Richard clearly still sucks horribly, CJ is no match for Mario, Diem looked bad, and Peyton was hit on nearly every play.
Garcon looked terrible in the first half and dropped several easy passes, Collie had an inexcusable fumble, and there was the Gonzo out of bounds idiotic play. Very bad.
Addai played great while given nothing (what else is new?), as did Wayne, Clark, and obviously Manning. On D, I’ll give props to Justin Tryon, Melvin Bullitt, and on ST, to Devin Moore, who got screwed out of a return TD on a horrific call.
We are no better than a 7 win team right now. It goes without saying there is a LOT of work to do with this unit. What was proven today is that every idiot sports writer and analyst who tries to base QB greatness on SB wins and losses is wrong. Manning played like the best player in football, which he is, despite having absolutely no help from anyone on either side of the ball. WIthout him, we may not win two games.
Get your s*it together, Colts. Horrible start to what appears to be a very long and frustrating season.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
Agree with everything except
we’ll still win at least 12
I hope your right
but unless this team does a complete 180 next week, I have some serious doubts.
"A lot of times, Kenny, we have no idea what we're doing. But the DEFENSE doesn't know that we don't know what we're doing.....and that's next level." -Peyton Manning
I thinking
bob sanders was held outside of the field cuz he wanted to go back and play.. and with a concussion he is not allowed… at least i want to believe this
3rd paragraph -- we did go for it, and made it, on 4th down in the 1st half
yes, props to Tryon. He definitely gave effort.
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
It seemed like every time the Texans
ran the ball ……it was 6, 7, or 8 yard gains. Unacceptable!!!!!!
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"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Some sanity
1 We have played 6.25% of the season.
2 We get to find out how good our coaching staff is and how they handle a defense that flat out quit on them.
3 Addai looked good, Brown looked nervous, 1st week mistakes were made and they will be corrected.
4. PM looked sharp…better than last year’s first game.
5. The Colts will undoubtably looked at all options on both lines and will improve.
6. Houston should be good…they have picked first for the last 10 years.
7. This was the best wake up from a SB hangover that the Colts could have asked for…painful…but helpful. This will be a really good year.
good points...
sigh a lot of the bad stuff in this game can be put into perspective. The two soul crushing moments: Collie’s fumble and when Peyton was lying face down…still positive thoughts for the rest of the season.
We all write poems; it is simply that poets are the ones who write in words. ~John Fowles
I guarantee
the entire O-line will be getting chewed out in the locker room, and back home after that hit…..not only by Manning, but by the entire coaching staff….
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
they should get a chewing
That being said. We have a long week to get a ton of work done and lay 50 points on a not too good Giants D.
The timing will get better.
what good will a chewing out do
when they just simply aren’t capable, either for health reasons or straight up ability?
How can you not love a team that does this?
well, you may as well give up and root for another team then, LB
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
we have told her that over and over...
but she is still a Red Sox fan. Wait, what?
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
MH, i love the list of teams you're a fan of. Very nice.
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
thank you.
my favorite is my fantasy team(s)
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
you sell yourself short -- Pee Wee and Colbert are my faves...
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
I'm not giving up
I’m facing reality. I’m also still hopeful and will be back week after week. I’ve rooted through shitty years before.
How can you not love a team that does this?
that's cool: keep chin up, stiff upper lip, steely gaze, & other facial contortions...
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
Missed the first 3 quarters.
How’d Fili do with the chance to start? Other than the whole “not stopping the run” thing. 5 tackles, 2 solo. Not bad.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
He had more than Brackett. That's bad when your d-lineman have more than your MLB.
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This sucks
Now not only did the Colts lose a game that they should have one, but all this gives is incentive for fuckers like Collinsworth, Gottlieb, Cowlherd, Russo, and all those brainless idiots in ESPN to say the entire season, “well without Bob Sanders…” or “there offensive line is shaky…” This is aweful. Way to go Polian!
Teneo Haud Fines Finium (Know No Limits)
"Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure...Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller
It was only a matter of time before this happened. The Colts weren’t able to pull a win out of their ass, big deal. On to week two!
You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
Stop being so rational
"I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal."- Peter La Fleur
ok...
OMFG WE LOST THE GAME
POLIAN IS A DOUCHE SCHMUCKSICKLE WHO NEEDS TO BE FIRED
PEYTON CHOKED AGAIN
Better?
You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
lol much better
"I found that if you have a goal, that you might not reach it. But if you don't have one, then you are never disappointed. And I gotta tell ya... it feels phenomenal."- Peter La Fleur
That'd be funny if it weren't true
That reads like half the comments at Phil B’s live chat. Except the people making them were serious. I’m tellin’ you guys, some people have zero perspective.
On the plus side: Phil posted a note of rationality. Which helped out those of us who were trying to do the same. I mean, my God… Peyton’s paycheck was the reason Indy lost? Yes, someone wrote that (although I think he was trying to troll rather than be serious… still, though…). Some people totally define bipolar where the Colts are concerned. Manic-depressive too.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
eh...
the “bipolar” ones seem to always be trolls. They pop up when things aren’t going well, and disappear when things are going good.
"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. pull yourselves together, people! there's no crying in football!
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
Another bit of optimism...
Yeah we lost the first game of the season, but don’t be stupid and compare this to the 2008 season when Chicago thumped us on opening day. Peyton isn’t running around like he has a wooden leg. The offense will get back in sync, it always does.
You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
Stop being so rational!
I mean, what are you? A sane guy?
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
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"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The worst thing is....
Now we’re a game and half behind everyone else.
Teneo Haud Fines Finium (Know No Limits)
"Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure...Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." Helen Keller
I'm too bummed to read this whole thread.........
So can somebody answer me a few questions, as I watched this in a bar and could hear nothing. What did Sanders ultimately have for injury? Elbow or concussion? What took Gonzo out of the game? I was screaming to see him while Stone Hands Pierre was dropping passes. WTF happened to our “deep” defense for cripes sakes. Looks to me like there may be a problem brewing between the OC and Peyton. Peyton seemed to check on every play. Bright spot was Bullitt coming in and makin a pick right off the bat. Oh yeah, I couldn’t tell what the Colts side of the offsetting penalties on that kickoff return was. Anybody know?
I could hear everything
and still can’t answer any of your questions
by smonroe on Sep 12, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
re: questions
Sanders – I heard elbow more than concussion; would actually “prefer” concussion because you can come back from that; nervous that elbow injury actually means another torn biceps
Gonzo – ankle
Colts offsetting penalty was holding, but I never actually saw it. If it took place far enough away from Devin Moore, then this is another bright spot for the Colts.
How can you not love a team that does this?
the buzz is
gonzo has ankle inj, bob has conc/neck injury.
good point about PM & OC. the plays seemed to be slow coming in, costing a TO and a 5yard delay penalty.
i think we got flagged for a hold on that KO return
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
you know whose Oline is worse?
Green Bay. Rodgers has already been sacked 3 times.
by chewylettuce on Sep 12, 2010 4:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That's great
Take this guy out the season. Manning gets his 5th MVP award easier
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
no rooting for injuries
to other teams, please, especially my boy Aaron Rodgers
How can you not love a team that does this?
Man, does anyone else agree with me that the '08 draft of all those O-linemen is coming back to haunt us?
As well as the ‘07 draft of Ugoh? I mean, look at it: Pollak: Disappointment. Justice: Released a while ago. Richards: Playing above himself to achieve mediocrity. That really hurts. Add to that the fact that Diem is aging and simply cannot block anymore, and that Saturday’s only one man, and what have you got?
Those drafts screwed us. These are the years those draft picks are supposed to be carrying the load.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Saturday will play another year or two
And then will move to NFL Network
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
YES
We have too many mid to low round draft choices , to say nothing of free agents playing. What makess it even worse is the fact that our high picks are not good enough to play. There is something horrbly wrong with that picture. Am I wrong?
Everyone in the AFC South won
but us! OH NOES!!!
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Manning Bowl = Colts win
I believe
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
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"I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky" -Philip J. Fry
by Marked Hoosier on Sep 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
when you think about it, we USUALLY lose to at least one maybe two afc south teams a year. Jacksonville always plays us tough and it’s no surprise if we split the series with them. the Titans play us tough too and if they beat us once a year it doesnt surprise me. The lone exception was the Texans. they only beat us once on a late FG and there have been more than a few times they should have beat us, but we pull some kind of magic out of our collective asses and win. So what’s the difference if we lose today or lose when we play them in Indy? none. Unless we truly are terrible, which would be a different story.
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
We can't take any conclusions with this game yet
The only thing we can be sure is the run D and the OL were totally out of sync. I just hope it changes next game
"If I had the chance, I'd ask the world to dance, but I'm dancing with myself..."
Let's also remember that Houston should've won at least a couple of the last 4 games they lost.
They’re not bad. They just kept on self-destructing. They’re actually a pretty good team.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
they didn't need to pass beyond establishing enough of a threat to keep Bullitt out of the box.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but as the game went on, Indy was stopping their passing attack.
It’s just that Houston didn’t need to pass after a while.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
which is why Indy can't play from behind all game
their D is built to stop the pass.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Indy needs a lead. When the opponent takes to the ground, Indy just can’t stop them.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
non existent
like our run D
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One of the bright spots as the game developed
Houston had to go to the ground to open the lead up. In the air, Indy gave it up at first, but solidified as the game went on. The Texans knew they couldn’t win by passing, not even with Schaub at the helm.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Only bright spot in Houston passing game.
Was a PI on Hayden.
yeah, that penalty hurt. but it was the right call.
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
OK, Coyer
Time to earn your phucking paycheck. You better fix this, sucker. Hey Metsellars, you think you got a play in there somewhere that won’t get checked off? Rychelski or whatever your name is, better refresh kickoff coverage team 101. Manning is a god, but the odds say he can’t win everything himself….as evidenced today. Football TEAM, you bozos. TEAM.
massive ST fuck up
but his recovery speed is absurd.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what I like about him
he gets his ass toasted on routes all the time. But he is so fast he can usually make up for it
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he's like the Anti-Jennings
that cushion he gives just evaporates once the ball is thrown.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like it!
That’s the best compliment we can give him.
To be fair
Tryon was pushed out of bounds by the defensive player first, so it’s not like he did something intentional. He made the right play…
In college, you can be the first person to touch the ball if you are pushed out and try to get back in bounds quickly…. not the NFL however…
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he went really wide trying to avoid a jam
gotta be stronger on contact or take a more direct route.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
dude was fast, chasing down the KR from the side
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
He did make a save
on AJ….but the ST FAILS were BAD
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Good to have him (beside the ST goofs)
he and Lacey will be strong backups
My first reaction is
you can’t be seriouse. But you’re right as soon as Hayden got the big contract his play has regressed. Still better than Lambert though
First you say Saturday needs to be cut
now this?
"Sometimes I think children are the worst people alive. And even if they're not - even if some smiling toddler is as pure as Evian - it's only a matter of time ... As far as I can tell, the nicest thing you can say about children is that they haven't done anything terrible yet."
— Chuck Klosterman
by Addai Another Aday on Sep 12, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Saturday and Hayden should be cut a day after the Colts season ends.
Saturday is old and slow and weak, he holds the line back. Hayden is worthless deep and average when not deep.
You are an idiot
Saturday just came back from surgery and he’s the best O-lineman the Colts have…period.
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
that's nuts. Saturday doesn't hold the line back one bit. Hayden's an avg NFL starter.
"To be a great football coach, you have to be smart enough to do it well, and dumb enough to think it's important." -- Can't remember whom I am paraphrasing.
Polian made his bed...
This OL was basically the expected starting unit, minus DeVan who isn’t a real difference-maker. Polian knew this would be the unit heading into the season. He did little-to-nothing to change it. This is the result.
by Collin McCollough on Sep 12, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Did little-to-nothing?
I actually would agree with “didn’t do enough”. But “little-to-nothing”? What about McClendon being brought in? What about Adam Terry being brought in? And who was the other big guy brought in but released? Polian and the front office did do things; it’s just that it wasn’t sufficient, and what was done ended up backfiring. I wish they would’ve targeted other linemen in the draft, but the good ones are gone by the time Indy picks; all would’ve been projects. At any rate, I would agree that it was insufficient and that more should’ve been done, but I don’t agree with “little-to-nothing”. That’s a bit inaccurate, I feel. “Misfired” is a better description, I think.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Insufficent = Little-to-Nothing
Semantics. If Polian thought Terry, Alleman or McClendon were fixes (I doubt he did), I am more scared for our franchise than I was before I read this post. He brought in garbage FAs, signed two project OL if you count Reitz and held on to Ugoh way too long. He did nothing to improve the OL he called out after the Super Bowl. If anything, by cutting Lilja, he ensured that it regressed.
by Collin McCollough on Sep 12, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, call it semantics if you want...
… but doing a whole lot, all of it backfiring is, to me, different from doing “little to nothing”. I draw a distinction between being a busybody and making a lot of moves that fail – and you yourself just named 5 moves that failed – and doing little to nothing. Seems to me that he did a lot, but all of it sucked.
However, it’s all irrelevant. We’re stuck with a bad O-line regardless.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Wrong
semantics seamentits
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Seamen... whu??
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
try again
semantics seamentits semantits
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Ok, this game is disturbing...
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I mean... writing about a seaman's tits... disturbing...
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Aha! Seamantits I can appreciate!!
Thank you. Thank you. I’m here all week…
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Which is why...
He should have made a move that meant something. Looks like it’s too late now. A trade is extremely improbable, especially between the Chargers/Ravens and Colts. Polian’s pretty much stuck with what he’s got. And he only has himself to blame.
by Collin McCollough on Sep 12, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This I can agree with. 100%.
Keep in mind I’m not trying to defend what Polian did. I’m just coming from a different angle: I think he did too much that was too ineffective. Trade up, get better free agents, do whatever. Don’t blow draft picks (I’m talking about the 2008 draft, BTW). But what happened is costing Indy, and if weren’t for Manning, this team would be in deep, deep trouble.
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Sam bradford is playing well
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bottom line
we didn’t get ANY breaks in this game. and that’s what it comes down too.
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
Garçon punching that pick out in the split second before the CB established possession would be the only one I can think of.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
we were talking about that
it was a great hustle play, but if garcon had caught the balls he was suppose to, we might not have been in that situation, but coulda shoulda woulda
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
we are all going to have a love-hate relationship with Garçon
he’s got fantastic tools, but even if he improves, he’ll probably never have hands like we’re use to seeing from Colts WRs.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Sep 12, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Man, the guy can stretch vertically like few guys. He can probably go downfield as fast as Reggie. But his hands… they run hot and cold. He’ll make an amazing “OMG!” one handed catch, then drop another that hits him right square in the mitts. He’ll drive us nuts.
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He's like a hot-ass girlfriend
you love her because she’s hot and crazy in the sack, but she’s high maintenance, full of drama, and flirts with other guys.
"Are you f*cking kidding me???"
*Blinks*
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
we DID get some breaks
they missed a PI call against Powers, there was the pick by bullitt, there was the pick by the texans that was ruled an incomplete pass saving our butts temporarily, they had injuries too, and so on, their challenge was denied like our was…..
stuff breaks both ways.
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can still be 5-1
before their week off , none of the next 5 teams are that great
Some wicked injuries in the Not For Long this week.
Eagles’ FB was nasty looking.
O-line
I have no idea why people are only harping on the O-line. Outside the QB and a handful of players, this is a severely flawed team. The Steelers won with Dennis Dixon today, yet had he started for this team in Houston, they would have lost by 50 points. This team goes as far as Manning can carry them. It’s been the same story for the vast majority of his 13 years. Things never change. As usual, special teams are a liability. They cannot consistently run the ball.; they cannot run the ball when they have to or need to. The defense cannot stop the run. The defense cannot get off the field. Another season with the fewest offensive possessions looms. Nothing changes. But if to this severely flawed package you add poor pass protection and skilled players who drop passes and fumble balls, then yes, they are finished. So in that respect, I understand why people are talking O-line. Superman at QB couldn’t overcome that list of flaws.
by Cole Farrington on Sep 12, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
Same team as last year
… give it a week or two…
Rams are looking
like a pretty decent team finally
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did anyone else notice the recievers giving up a lot of ground after the catch?
seemed like all our guys were catching it and then running a little backwards/lateral loop-around to try to find an alley, but they frequently would get tackled for a negative YAC.
Is this something new Ron Turner is teaching them? I don’t like it. If they pirouette instead of loop-around they won’t give up as much ground. Drives me crazy when they’re so close to the first down marker then yield a couple yards.
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by zherebyonki on Sep 12, 2010 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well said
There were a few plays where if they simply put their head down and barreled forward they would have had 1st downs or 2nd down with 1 to go…. instead we got a lot of 2nd and 4’s, 3rd and 3’s….
Kinda silly, but I think this was a by product of simply trying to hard to make a big play….
by DevilsReject on Sep 12, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
YES
Manning4ever and I made a comment on it every single time. I HATE that little loop-back. It cost someone (Garcon?) a first down – he could have caught the ball and just fallen forward. Instead, he looped back and lost 3 yards.
How can you not love a team that does this?
good eyes, LB & M4E.
Sorry to rehash old ground — I didn’t follow the live-game thread because I find i miss two plays while trying to decide whether or not to hyphenate such phrases as “run-stopping ability” and “Mario-freaking-Williams.”
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we weren't on the threads
we were watching together live at my house :-D
How can you not love a team that does this?
good choice -- live in the moment
Clark seemed the slowest in the loop-de-loops — I ‘d rather he locomotor directly upfield, even if it’s just a lunge or a lean. I remember 2 yrs ago always being impressed at how fast and sharply Gonzo would turn upfield after the catch — hope he hasn’t lost that.
There seemed to be more looping attempts out of the slot, but I’m not sure. I didn’t notice it so much with Wayne who always seems to be going downfield for a post or slant, running a crossing route, or doing his hook-down/comeback route. Only the last of which lends itself to a loop after catch, but usually the CB has tracked him back down by then.
Damn, did i just use upfield and downfield to express the same thing?
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by zherebyonki on Sep 12, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
How disappointment
Offensive and defensive lines are huge piles of yuck so far. Doesn’t matter how good our ends are if the opponent never has to pass.
Still, the Texans had weeks to prepare for us, which most teams won’t have; it was away; and we still put up good points. There were good things. Have to work harder in the trenches, though.
wow, that's almost gushing praise from you! glad you see the silver linings!
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by zherebyonki on Sep 12, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
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