Dwight Freeney Takes A Shot At SI's Peter King
by Brad Wells on Sep 24, 2010 11:19 AM EDT
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In case you didn't know, Dwight Freeney reads this blog (or, at the very least, the person that maintains Dwight's official website reads this blog). Links to our articles have appeared on Dwight's page more than once, and we can only assume that a healthy diet of reading Stampede Blue has motivated Dwight to take a few shot at Stampede Blue whipping boy, Peter King.
We have a long history of poking fun at the SI scribe. We also got the chance to sit down and have a few beers with him this past February. For the record, he's a super nice and thoughtful guy.
Maybe a little sit-down-beer-lovin-time is in order between Dwight and Peter, because Mr. Freeney is certainly not happy with Mr. King's writing of late. PFT explains:
Freeney has started out fast this year with three sacks. He appeared unblockable against the Giants. At 30, Freeney still appears to have peak years left. That's why he can't understand why SI.com's Peter King didn't include Freeney on his "top-five most fearsome pass rushers for 2010 and beyond."
"Who is this?" Freeney asked to Philip B. Wilson of the Indianapolis Star, pointing to Brian Orakpo's name. "When you put Brian Orakpo -- and nothing against the guy, he is 24 -- but mention him over me, that hurts your credibility as an analyst. I know who Peter King is. But to mention [Orakpo] over me? For him not to mention me in the top five, that is an insult."
Freeney wants to ask defenders: "Would you rather see [Orakpo] or would you rather see me?"
Well, I guess when Bill Polian says that his team doesn't pay attention to the 'prognawsticators and the pundits,' he is pretty clearly excluding Dwight Freeney. Dwight very much cares who is writing articles about him, and what those articles are saying.
As PFT points out, King's article was focused on 'guys he'd take for the next five years.' With that caveat, I can see why Freeney's name could be left off the list.
However, that caveat goes out the window when you see that Julius Peppers' name is on King's list. Like Dwight Freeney, Peppers was drafted in 2002.
Unlike Dwight Freeney, Peppers is most certainly NOT a preimire pass rusher anymore. Peppers can't hold Freeney's jock, and Peter King simply doesn't know what he's writing about.
If King truly thinks Peppers will be a good pass rusher five years from now, then I have to side with Dwight. That's poor analysis. Peppers hasn't been a good pass rusher since... what? 2007? He also quit on his Carolina Panthers teammates last year, which is why they shipped his sorry butt to Chicago.
"Tell (King) to do more research and ask around before he publishes that," Freeney said. "He should be better than that."
OK Dwight. When we have a beer again with Peter, we'll be sure to let him know.
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Peter King is nuttier than squirrel turds. I’m glad Freeney called that guy out.
You should read 12th Horseman. Do it.
doesn't like the colts
for some reason Peter King as a general rule has always been if not down on the colts, then certainly prone to ignoring or dismissing them. I suspect he has some kind of bias against the team and it shows in his writing. He might not really even realize he does it. Freeney is a colts so he isn’t worth attention. Might be small market team syndrome.. writing about the colts doesn’t sell as much.
And I agree that if he thinks peppers will be around in five year, why he thinks Freeney can’t is a mystery. I can understand leaving off Freeney if he was talking about up and coming players from recent drafts, but that clearly isn’t what the list is about.
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing...
Your intuition is solid
Peter King is a from Boston. Everyone knows he is a die hard Boston Red Sox fan, he doesn’t hide that fact because he doesn’t cover baseball. Since he covers football, he doesn’t intentionally tell his readers who he roots for but it has been painstakingly obvious for a long time that he is a Patsies fan. Heck he’s from Springfield, Mass.
I bet Freeney remains top 5 for another 3 years
and stays effective for 2 beyond that. I think PK dropped the ball a bit on this one. That being said, I generally enjoy his writing and feel like he USUALLY knows what he’s talking about. Just not in this case.
"It's an easy game, man. Easy game."
~Edgerrin James
by 87 Rides A Surfboard on Sep 24, 2010 11:33 AM EDT reply actions
Bruce Smith
Bruce Smith is a decent comparable and he had 42 sacks from age 35+.
Smith is not the norm
You can’t just pick the guy that lasted forever and assume Freeney will match that.
Very few DEs have remained effective as long as Smith. Its silly to expect anyone to match his longevity.
I remember when Colts fans used to project Marvin Harrison’s career to last as long as Jerry Rice, how’d that turn out?
by TheNoodleMan on Sep 24, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr. King's list
should have Freeney number one, and Mathis number two.
Peter King is a great writer
I love all of his novels, from Carrie to Under the Dome. Best fiction writer of our time!
by smonroe on Sep 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm partial to Shawshank Redemption
The revised version where Dufresne and Red go to Starbucks after breaking out of the prison.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
I like the Family Guy version best
…“and we’re left with a cleft lipped reminder of what could have been…”
I'm fine with King's assessment
Not because it’s true (it isn’t), but because this gives #93 even more motivation to plow through d-lines and molest quarterbacks all year. A healthy season (knock on a sequoia tree) can absolutely result in a DPOY award for him.
Now someone in the MSM just needs to tell Garçon that he can’t catch, Charlie Johnson that he can’t block, Devin Moore that he can’t make it past the 20, and Melvin Bullitt that he can’t hit like Bob Sanders. It couldn’t hurt to light a few more fires under the collective asses of this team, right?
by strootster on Sep 24, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
but because this gives #93 even more motivation to plow through d-lines and molest quarterbacks all year.
LOL, that was close to my comment on PFT.
by Ufanforreal on Sep 24, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Your assessment of Peppers is laughable.
If King truly thinks Peppers will be a good pass rusher five years from now, then I have to side with Dwight. That’s poor analysis. Peppers hasn’t been a good pass rusher since… what? 2007?
Sacks since the start of the 2007 season:
Freeneey: 30.5
Peppers: 28.5
Peppers had one bad year (2007), the same year Freeney had and underwhelming sack total before getting hurt.
If you want to argue that Freeney should be on the top 5 list, that is fine, but disparaging Peppers makes you look a lot more foolish than Peter King.
Didn't Freeney miss the second half of 2007?
No idea about Peppers game totals.
I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.
Sure, but its really beside the point
Julius Peppers had 14.5 sacks in 2008 and 10.5 in 2009.
In what crazy world is BBS living where that isn’t a good pass rusher?
by TheNoodleMan on Sep 24, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
BBS land.
"We'll put em in the pot, shake it up and see what comes out." - Howard Mudd
"Nothing's complicated if you understand it." - Tom Moore
"It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law." - Hofstadter's Law
Dallas Clark is
Just. This. Incredible.
What BBS is saying
Is that Dwight Freeney is better than Peppers, and he’s right. Attacking a single detail does not discredit an entire argument.
Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.
by Sir Sci on Sep 24, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since Freeney has 2 more sacks in the time frame than Pepper… he should be on the list and not Pepper. Getting sacks against afc opponents is far more challeging than the Bucs and Falcons each year.
not only that
but Freeney has missed more games than Peppers and is still ahead.
by metal_militia on Sep 24, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Still doesn't dismiss the fact that Freeney should be on the list
it is poor analysis to say that Freeney isn’t one of the most if not the most, feared pass rusher in the league. Every game we watch, we always see a double or even triple team on him and Freeney still manages to blow past it and get pressure on the QB.
by metal_militia on Sep 24, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take Mario over freeney
Due to how good he is in the run game, but if I need a guy for one play to rush the passer, I’m taking freeney.
Hope y’all are enjoying Brody Eldridge, dude is a beast and could be the key to your o line troubles.
And yes everyone on BRB takes peds and fertility drugs. It’s just how we do it
Wonder if I’ll get banned for this comment by blue balls
by AllenOU on Sep 24, 2010 1:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
we can only assume that a healthy diet of reading Stampede Blue has motivated Dwight to take a few shot at Stampede Blue whipping boy, Peter King.
Gonzalez, undoubtedly motivated by my criticisms of his recovery times, hurried back from his high ankle sprain to make a game-changing catch.
Cookie Cookie Cookie starts with C!
whoa
my entire post disappeared!
BBS, you’ve got to tell the code geeks to fix the autoformatting of lists. I was just hilarious (trust me) and it all disappeared when I hit post.
HILARIOUS, I tell you.
Cookie Cookie Cookie starts with C!
I think it had to do with the use of quote marks too.
Anyway…
I was pointing out that that’s quite an assumption, and that you could also make assumptions like the following, which would be just as likely to be true:
The sky is Blue because that’s the name you chose for your pen name.
King wrote that list and snubbed Freeney specifically to irk you.
It doesn’t rain when you cry, it rains because you cry.
Al Davis’s latest draft proves he is a joy to work for and a competent GM and evaluator of talent.
If my dog could speak, he’d have a British accent.
Penguins have functional wings; their inability to fly is actually a lifestyle decision
Etc. And then I wondered if you’d start also taking credit for Colts victories and plays on the field, like the Gonzalez quote, or saying that Caldwell first sent the punt unit out on 4th and 3, but thought better of it after I tweeted my disagreement, and the team converted and went on to score. Game Ball to BBS!
Damn you, quote software. You ruined all my fun.
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by willyduer on Sep 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
IDIOT
peter kings sucks, always has, and always will. he is way to obsessed with brett favre, and neglects to pay attention to the rest of the league. what a fatass loser
W. Morton
So what you're saying is...
Peter King sucks?
What is both surprising and delightful is that spectators are allowed, and even expected, to join in the vocal part of the game.... There is no reason why the field should not try to put the batsman off his stroke at the critical moment by neatly timed disparagements of his wife's fidelity and his mother's respectability. ~George Bernard Shaw
Peter King can kiss my ass
For disrespecting 93
by MadStork on Sep 24, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Does every Posting begin with a quick boost of the ego?
I mean I love coming to the site and reading everybody’s comments but every posting with the name BBS attached to it begins with “this guys reads this or guess who I met”. It’s simply brutal to read. Everybody elses contributions certainly are a great read though and that’s why I return. The other day I read an article that stated “our Super Bowl coverage put us on a national scale” and it was hard to read without laughing. Somebody thinks they’re a big deal when truthfully the Super Bowl coverage came off as being less about covering a football team on a proffessional level and more like, hey guess who I met today, here’s a picture of Peter King or guess where I was. The actual knowledge of the game of football seemed flawed also. When you read a posting that says Ugoh may have been released because he only had a toe injury and he must have been a wimp, it really kills your credibility. In the game of football a toe injury can keep you out for long periods of time even if you’re a super tough guy. Jonathan Ogden struggled to stay healthy in his final 3 seasons because of a nagging toe injury. He said it was the most painful thing he ever played with and had to retire because of it. Last time I checked, he was pretty good. Probably a first ballet hall of famer. Great site though, in spite of that guy.
by Peyton2019 on Sep 24, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Dwight is the man
It is great Dwight reads all the articles and comments. A great idea would be to put Peter King as the hit man on that show where they showed how hard Dwight Freeney and how quickly he gets to the QB, only leave the matress out- just astro truf!!!!!
totally agreed
and he played the first half of the Superbowl on a horrible ankle that 99% of the players would not have been able to play on and his workout regimen that they showein one of the sports magazines is sick, he takes very good care of his body and prob has 5 more good years left at a high level at least
Aw hell, Dwight.....
Just call Peter up and tell him you’re gonna rip his face off if he doesn’t get it right.
next time they invite Freeny to demonstrate his spin move on Sports Science
he should invite peter king to strap it up and take the hit.
Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy
without
the matress behind him and no padding
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Sep 25, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
For future reference
The video on Freeney’s website is epic.
Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.
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1) The capture of Saddam Hussein and the scale back of troops in Iraq
2) Double Rainbows.
3) The arrest of that Jets fan outside LOS last January
4) Peyton’s miraculous recovery from an unannounced neck injury
5) Jose Bautista’s sudden surge to 51 home runs
6) Joey Votto’s MVP candidacy
7) Mark Sanchez’s career high 3 TDs against the Patriots
8) Manly mustaches and chest hair growing on millions of adolescent males
9) Strong healthy teeth and bones
10) Diarrhea (they can’t all be winners)
11) Avatar’s success at the box office
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13) The new location of the game stats display at the stadium
14) Tony Ugoh’s release
15) At least ten dollars of Jim Irsay’s $1.4B net worth, as published in the Forbes 400
16) Diet Dr. Pepper tasting more like regular Dr. Pepper
17) Rex Grossman’s SB41 performance
18) Facebook’s outage yesterday (I consider this a positive, not a negative)
19) Michael Vick’s rushing yardage against the Packers
20) The resurrection of Jesus Christ himself, and the resulting holiday from work.
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by willyduer on Sep 24, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm a fan of #2 and 16.
Dislike #6.
Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.
dwight is the man!
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