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Mike Chappell: Yeah, Anthony Gonzalez Is Indeed Upset

Just so certain people don't use the old cop out that Mike Chappell misquoted, misrepresented, or misinterpreted the recent negative comments Anthony Gonzalez made about the Colts, Mike went on Dan Dakich's show and made it clear that Gonzo is most certainly not happy, and the reasons are that the team did not fulfill a promise made to him that he would be able to compete for his old job.

Dan Dakich: Is Gonzalez, is he upset about this? Is this a problem?

Mike Chappell: Yeah. I tried to be very careful in how I phrased- 

Dan Dakich: Yeah, I can tell.

Mike Chappell: Because, again, I even asked him "Does [inaudible] frustrate you?" And he says "Well..." and he wouldn't really go there. But, it's clear that, from what he didn't say, promises were made in the off-season about how the opportunity he would have to compete for the job, and the only way I can read into it is he doesn't think he was given the fair shot he was promised. Is he upset? I don't know. This isn't DEFCON-5. He's clearly not 100% happy with how things panned out because basically he lost his job by injury, if you want to read into it.

Chappell went on to make the key observation that, in training camp and preseason, there was no competition to speak of between Pierre Garcon and Gonzo. Garcon did not play much in pre-season. So, if Gonzo was promised by the Colts that he would have an opportunity to compete for his old starting job (and Chappell made it clear that is was the starting job Gonzo wanted, not the slot receiver position) then it seems Gonzo's feelings of 'betrayal' are justified.

What this boils down to is who is fudging the truth? Is Gonzo lying about the Colts promising him a shot? Or, did the Colts simply give Gonzo a false promise?

After the jump, more details from Chappell (who, by the way, did an outstanding job on this story)...

Star-divide

You have to keep in mind, [Gonzalez] is a very thoughtful, I won't say 'calculating,' but he really thinks about what he's saying. He doesn't just blow off. So, the fact that he stuck around and talked to me and talked to a couple of us, it's clear he wanted to get something off his chest. He wasn't blasting the management as players have been known to do. He just saying, Yeah, promises were made. I was promised I would have a chance to work for the starting job. And I tried to get him to say, And promises weren't kept. And he wouldn't go there, but he clearly implied that.

It's interesting that Chappell states Gonzo was not blasting 'management,' which is important because 'management' is different than the coaching staff. So, for me, the shots are likely not at Bill Polian, but at Jim Caldwell. It seems logical to suggest that Gonzo is indeed blasting the coach and is, essentially, calling Caldwell a liar.

When you promise something, and then don't follow through with it, what does that make you? Certainly, terms like 'honest' and 'truthful' don't some to mind.

But, since Gonzo did not out-and-out call his head coach a dishonest person, we won't say he did. We'll just say that we don't think Gonzo feels warm and fuzzy at the thought of Jim Caldwell. Chappell also made it clear that Gonzo is most certainly not confident about returning punts. I don't recall him doing any punt returning in preseason, and for a guy coming off a major knee injury, returning punts does not sound like a very healthy way to work the player back into the team fold.

It will be interesting to see how this thing plays out. Gonzo seems to feel betrayed. He feels he did not get a fair shake. I know many of you around here felt he should have been given that opportunity, and I agree with you. During the days of Tony Dungy, we saw a lot of open competition. With this coaching staff, the rules seem different. The Colts like using silly catch phrases like 'The cream rises to the crop" and "We put them in the pot, stir them up, and see what happens." The problem is, their actions do not seem to back up those phrases.

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Yeah, promises were made. I was promised I would have a chance to work for the starting job

Is there a video on this conversation or on any of this disagreement on what was said.
After all this is Chappell version of what was said and he is media and they like others read more into a conversation that sometimes is there.

by Ufanforreal on Sep 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Stop whining and contribute.

The season is just starting, if Garçon can’t handle it and Gonzo is working hard and not crying he’ll get his shot. I believe there was competition in practice, Garcons ability to stretch the field won him the job. That simple….also, don’t think for a minute Peyton has no say who his starters are. Remember how long the Colts kept Peytons buddy Aaron Moorehead? The guy couldn’t catch a cold and yet we kept him for years. Him being Peytons pal is the only reason I can think of that we kept him……….chill Gonzo, and work!

Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"

by Wise Master on Sep 8, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe you forgot to mention

That coaches also lied about Curtis Painter and Tom Brandstater. You forgot to work that into this article. Clearly you’re slacking.

by Collin McCollough on Sep 7, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I Have A Sticking Point Here With Gonzalez And Chappell

“Chappell went on to make the key observation that, in training camp and preseason, there was no competition to speak of between Pierre Garcon and Gonzo. Garcon did not play much in pre-season.”

That is how Chappell interprets things.

1. How do we know that there wasn’t this competition between Garcon and Gonzalez during practice, including closed practices?
2. How do we know that the coaching staff didn’t decide “OK, we know what Garcon can do based on last season, let’s see what Gonzalez can do?” (Any evidence that Gonzalez is capable of having a monster game against a great defense in a big playoff game? We already know that Garcon can do so, as he did against the Jets.) I mean, geesh, Gonzalez had 37 catches for 576 yards in 2007, 57 catches for 664 yards in 2008 at 11 yards per catch. Garcon had 765 yards last year at 16.3 yards per catch. Did Gonzalez show anything that makes anyone believe that he can match Garcon’s productivity last year? (By the way, Garcon is 1 year younger, 2 inches taller, and 15 pounds heavier than is Gonzalez.)
3. Yes. This is relevant. Is Anthony Gonzalez fully healthy? And does the coaching staff – and team doctors – have the same opinion of Gonzo’s health as he does? And even if Gonzalez is 100% healthy NOW, was he 100% healthy in time enough for a real competition between him and Garcon to take place, which let’s face it would have had to have been at the beginning of training camp?
4. What makes Gonzalez think that he can beat out Garcon if he can’t even beat out Collie, who by the way also had more receiving yards last year (676) than Gonzalez ever has? By the way, Gonzalez also played a lot of slot receiver in college at Ohio State because he couldn’t beat out Ted Ginn and Santonio Holmes. He didn’t emerge until after those guys left OSU, and wasn’t anywhere near the player that either was at OSU. So what makes him think that he can go from being the #3 guy at Ohio State to a starter for the Colts? Not a team that has horrible WRs like Jacksonville or Saint Louis but THE COLTS?

I say Gonzalez knows that he is the #4 WR in Indianapolis and is trying to force a trade.

by Lurking on Sep 7, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No context w/your stats

Garcon wasn’t battling Harrison AND Wayne for catches. You left out the catch %, because it took away from your argument, even though it’s clearly relevant to the issue.

by Naptime! on Sep 7, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

didn’t Gonzo start some games because Marvin hurt his knee and missed like 10 games or something? So he wasn’t battling Marvin that year for catches…but yeah his hands are def better thans Garcon’s…

by fc3worships on Sep 8, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

#3

Gonzo did NOT emerge after Ginn left OSU. Both players left after their junior seasons and entered the 2007 draft. Ginn may have made more big plays, but I would definitely say that Gonzo outperformed him at times and came up with a ton of clutch catches that year for the Buckeye team that lost to Florida in the National Championship game.

by TrustInPolian on Sep 7, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez played his first year behind Wayne and Harrison… as a #3 receiver, not the #2 that Garcon got to play all last year. He also didn’t have to step up that year because he wasn’t asked to. Also, they are both 6’0" tall… no size difference. Gonzo has better ability to fight for the ball with a corner and is better at underneath routs. Garcon is faster, no doubt about it. But I can’t get out of my head the ridiculous # of home-run balls he dropped last year. I about threw my TV through the window a few times. Also, the years that Gonzo got to play the Colts had a better run game than last year. Anything is better than last year though. Peyton threw an insane # of times last year. Comparing the stats isn’t legit, b/c the situations were different. They are both good receivers who have different strengths and weaknesses. I’m just praying that Colts play with 4 receivers generously and clear the backfield. Fielding Wayne, Clark, Collie, Garcon and Gonzalez would be the most terrifying thing in football. College football is also not always a good indication of who will be good in the NFL… ever hear of Matt Leinert? or Ted Ginn Jr.? The thing about depth charts is that they are really only accurate for the first play from scrimmage, then it just depends on the skill sets needed to get a 1st down or the TD, so I’m thinking they will probably go back and forth, but that’s just me.

by bluefacedcolts on Sep 7, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

gonzo

was the #2 receiver when Marvin went down w the knee injury…so he started a good number of games at #2 if my memory is correct.

by fc3worships on Sep 8, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a tough situation.

All I know is that I will be very surprised if all four of our WRs don’t get a couple catches each this Sunday. So Gonzo, make your touches count for more than the others.

by ActionOxford on Sep 7, 2010 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Dont read to much into this BBS

its not like Gonzo all of a sudden is going to stop playing hard or holdout for a trade or something. This just sounds like “hey I thought i did well in the preseason, why aren’t you giving me my job back?” from Gonzo. Its not that big a deal

by metal_militia on Sep 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't read too much into this BBS??

sorry metal. That ship sailed about five hours ago. The black helicopters have been circling BBS for a while now.

by coltus on Sep 7, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Five HOURS ago?

Try five YEARS.

Flp your calendar to 2010.

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Sep 7, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

He was promised that he could compete for the position, and since their subjective evaluation that he wasn’t the best man for the spot didn’t agree with his subjective evaluation, they are LIARS. OK…

Can’t wait for football to start so we can talk about actual football news instead of this nonsense.

by SteveW on Sep 7, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah and as most people said

who cares of the FO and coaching staff aren’t up front about everything. So long as they win, its a moot point

by metal_militia on Sep 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

'Demoted WR Upset'

and in other breaking news: “Gary Brackett hungry after not eating for 4 hours.” Conspiracies and allegations to follow…

"My goal is to be the person my dog seems to think I am."
"I'm all lost in the supermarket/ I can no longer shop happily/ I came in here for the special offer/ A guaranteed personaility."

by Via_Chicago on Sep 7, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   4 recs

LMAO, man the reg. season can’t get here fast enough.

by Ufanforreal on Sep 7, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They still manufacture Halcion?

Anonymity breeds inhumanity. In simpler terms, don't be a troll.

by linkish on Sep 8, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, he's got a chubby face, okay...

But he’s not a giant tub of goo.

You want to make fat/can’t stop eating jokes, there are plenty of OL/DL guys around the league generating their own gravity fields. Hell, take aim at Jared Lorenzen or Jamarcus Russell or Lendwhale White, for that matter.

Just not our #58. sniff.

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by Bobman on Sep 7, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

aka

Roley Poley Bat out of Hell…

/I love that one!
//all props to 18to88

"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007

by peytonsthebest on Sep 7, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

no joke intended

I’m hungry after 4 hours, too! Just thought if we were making up conspiracies about “news”, we could suggest the Colts’ “management” is depriving their players of food, too. Hey, why not?

"My goal is to be the person my dog seems to think I am."
"I'm all lost in the supermarket/ I can no longer shop happily/ I came in here for the special offer/ A guaranteed personaility."

by Via_Chicago on Sep 7, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get it, I just don't agree

BBS, I’m sure that Gonzo really did say what he said. I just don’t buy your interpretation. You are inserting the word “liar” into his mouth. You are then using it to support your claim that the Colts are systematically being untruthful. That’s a bridge too far.

Gonzo feels that he was promised a chance to compete for his own job. Was he really promised? What were the terms of the competition? Did he actually get that chance? We don’t know. But asking the guy who was disappointed on the day his disappointment becomes official is not probably not going to get you the most impartial representation of events.

Is there anything you can point to that shows Gonzo outperformed Garçon in camp or preseason? Or are you building this case just Gonzo’s words during one interview?

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by szquirrel on Sep 7, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

hear hear!
  1. WR disappointed not to be #2 or #3. no cut and dried evidence he should be #2 or #3. decision made on the basis of a mix of objective and subjective factors… lotta smoke, not much fire.

by mississinewa on Sep 7, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So what if Gonzo is unhappy, deal with it

In my opinion, the FO probably felt that he didn’t do enough in the preseason to give him the starting nod. He was obviously not all the way back. I think he has way more upside than Collie, so when he is fully back, he’ll probably get that job back.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Sep 7, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

more upside then Collie?

And what are you basing that off of? Certainly not numbers? Gonzalez in his first season had 576 yards and 3 td. Gonzalez in his second season had 664 yards and 4 td.

Collie in his first seaason had 676 yards and 7 td.

So Collie’s numbers his rookie season are better the Gonzalez inmbers in the 2 seasons Gonzo has played.

Gonzo will not win his job back, sorry dude.

Not to mention, there is Blair White sitting on the practice squad who looked better this preseason the Gonzo. Gonzo is lucky he is the 4th WR right now.

by gteare28 on Sep 8, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

"more upside then Collie? And what are you basing that off of?"

Not trying to put words in dmstorm’s mouth, but it could be any of the following:

Hands, speed, athleticism… I’m sure you could make up a few others. Gonzo is more Cuban, for example.

Look, the consensus is that Collie (and I absolutely love Collie, so it’s not like I like one player better than the other) is either at, or very close to, his talent ceiling. He’s not going to magically get more athletic. Gonzalez hasn’t maximised that potential yet. What he does with it remains to be seen.

And Blair White has the least upside of them all.

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by linkish on Sep 8, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know that I

think throwing down the liar card on Caldwell is justified at this point. I don’t think that Gonzo is lying, either. Perception is truth only to the perceiver at this point. This is just the kind of thing that starts out as a pimple and can be nursed to a frickin festering tumor by speculation. Everybody has an opinion, which is cool, but I would be carefull of putting labels on anyone’s perception or even behavior at this point. Last thing I want to see is a distraction in the lockeroom before the season starts.

by tim55 on Sep 7, 2010 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Gonzo

I am pretty sure you did get a shot at getting your spot back. But you unfortunatly took that to mean that it was yours to lose. That was not the case. The Colts play the best, most prepared players. Period.

If Gonzo came in and preformed well enough and Garcon did not come in ready to play, Gonzo would have won the job back, but there was not a large enough difference to make the switch. I am sure the coaching staff would not just bench a better player for fun. Also, fun fact: Gonzo can still win the job back during the season.

by TrueColtsFan on Sep 7, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

It was Chappell's body language in context

I once saw him write an entire column while being held hostage, gagged and tied to a chair. A couple winks, twitch of the nose, and subtle roll of the shoulder and the Pulitzer was his. Also, he’s got a really expressive forehead. He once asked me the time of day but his forehead told me that I must kill the queen of England. So I buried a .45 under first base, but Enrico Palazzo stopped me before I made a terrible mistake.

(good lord, am I remembering that movie right? it’s been decades.)

I hate Joe Namath. That's how long I've been a Colts fan.

by Bobman on Sep 7, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

jesus

thats funny

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Sep 7, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree totally with TrueColtsFan . .

Gonzo had all the OTA’s plus a full training camp and preseason to make his case, but seemed to have one “setback” after another. Jim Caldwell is neither a liar nor stupid.
If Gonzo had outperformed Garcon, the job would be his because it would’ve been obvious to everybody. Caldwell isn’t about to cut his nose off despite his face and hold back the better player that gives the team the best chance of winning football games. I, like most, am tickled to death to have Gonzo back and the incredible corps of receivers 18 has to throw to. My advice to Gonzo would be to zip it, and keep busting your a$$. Maybe that way you’ll get your job back the old fashioned way . . . .by earning it.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 7, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial

by Shi on Sep 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't both sides be right?

Gonzo was competing and just didn’t know it, until the depth chart was published. This isn’t much of a story. The Colts have double digit wins EVERY year and have a stable of great receivers EVERY year. And every time a reporter asks Reggie Wayne if Peyton targets him enough, he says no. At some point, Garcon will drop a couple, and Gonzo will go in for him. And everyone will be happy

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Sep 7, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Very well put.

Thank the good Lord it’s almost time for real football, and we can quit chasing our tails over this drivel.

by oldecoltsfan on Sep 7, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must be getting old but I remember reading / hearing / whatever

that the Colts management (coaches, GM, owner) HAS said in the past that players don’t lose starting jobs because of injury. If that was the case, then why does Bob always start, just as long as he has two decent legs, one arm and partial use of both his thumbs? I love Bob, too.

If Gonzo doesn’t feel like he was given a fair shot at ‘competing’ for his spot, maybe he wasn’t. Doesn’t mean he or his coach were liars.

One thing we can deduce is that Gonzo wanted a shot at competing for his spot and he didn’t assume that he would automatically start when he got back from injury.

by Gwen on Sep 7, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Gonzales

should just be happy he has a job, especially with the economy so bad.

by Ayrshire on Sep 7, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Bullshit

He should want to compete for a job. The economy has nothing to do with this. It’s sports. Dumb comment.

"Born to do it, even though all my friends are looking at me like 'Who knew it?'"

by Colts Homer on Sep 7, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously,

you didn’t quite get my attempt at humor.

by Ayrshire on Sep 7, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

THERE IS NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT FOOTBALL

BILL POLIAN IS A COMMUNIST TERRORIST!

Yeah, sorry about that haha.

"Born to do it, even though all my friends are looking at me like 'Who knew it?'"

by Colts Homer on Sep 7, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, if he were a communist terrorist...

… he wouldn’t be in charge of a white and blue team, he’d be in charge of a RED ONE!!!.

OOOOOOO! Gauntlet thrown!! Let’s see which team’s fans come in here and take offense. FLAME ON!!!!

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by E.M.H. on Sep 7, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, they do call him Big Red, and I don't think it's indicative of his preference in chewing gum.

Ipso facto, commie pinko.

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by linkish on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Competition is good.

From what I remember, Gonzo had a ball go through his hands for a pick. That’s enough to tilt the scales, honestly. But in the regular season if Garcon is still only catching half the throws, you bet your life Gonzo is going to come in to replace him.

by slash196 on Sep 7, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Gonzo at Wide receiver

I will take the receiver who catches with his hands over the receiver that catches balls with his tummy. With that said, Gonzo is perfect for kickoff returns and not catching passes in tight spots. Garcon and Collie catch more passes with their hands than Gonzo. Having Gonzo on the team as a receiver is still a good thing for the Colts. The Colts have one of the best passing attack in the NFL.

by Leroystayclean on Sep 7, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

don’t you mean win Carcon doesn’t drop a pass when catching it with his hands.

by Ufanforreal on Sep 7, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least Gonzo hangs on to the passes

Better than almost anyone else in the NFL.

"Born to do it, even though all my friends are looking at me like 'Who knew it?'"

by Colts Homer on Sep 7, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeeze, what is this with people reversing the DEFCON?

Mr. Chappell:
DEFCON 1=state of war/highest alarm
and
DEFense CONdition 5=state of peace/least alert

I’m assuming you meant to say “This isn’t DEFCON-1…”

by Selador on Sep 7, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I don't always drink beer....but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by AceOfSpades on Sep 7, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

DEFCON-ELEVENTY BILLION!!!

that’s equal to sitting in a hammock with a 90 min dogfish head

"Are you f*cking kidding me???"

by danorocks17 on Sep 7, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm soooo hoppy!!

"My goal is to be the person my dog seems to think I am."
"I'm all lost in the supermarket/ I can no longer shop happily/ I came in here for the special offer/ A guaranteed personaility."

by Via_Chicago on Sep 7, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

but make mine a Smuttynose

"My goal is to be the person my dog seems to think I am."
"I'm all lost in the supermarket/ I can no longer shop happily/ I came in here for the special offer/ A guaranteed personaility."

by Via_Chicago on Sep 7, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's all one really needs in life: a Smuttynose and slutty hoes.

Anonymity breeds inhumanity. In simpler terms, don't be a troll.

by linkish on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

, he said from his underground military base under Cheyenne, WY

"We ARE going to our own private island, Chris: it's called the State Fucking Fair!"

by naptown_ninja on Sep 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that must be why BBS is saying Gonzo's pissed

It’s because Chappie clearly said “This isn’t DEFCON-5”, therefore, it’s DEFCON-1 and Gonzo’s wantin’ WAR!!

… hey, it’s as good an excuse as any.

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by E.M.H. on Sep 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, my problem is that I'll be watching tv in my underwear

and the announcer is going to come on and say:
“News flash, we are at DEFCON 5”

And I’m going to be all, crap, is this the military’s understanding of DEFCON 5 or the Mike Chappell Defcon 5
(because I really don’t want to have to get up and get my pants on unless the missles are flying)

And so some future civilization will find a petrified version of me, forever caught in indecision, still sitting in my underwear with a beer in my hand, wondering if I’m supposed to duck and cover or relax.

Didn’t he ever watch Wargames?

by Selador on Sep 7, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Using that logic...

Miller Huggins would have replaced Lou Gehrig with Wally Pipp as soon as Wally got over his injury and Cal Ripken Jr. would have had the consecutive games started record about five years earlier. Oh, and the Yankees would have a couple fewer World Series victories.

by True__Blue on Sep 7, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Now we know what its like to have a prima donna WR wanna be......

AG should handle this like a professional and not air his gripes with mgt in a public forum.

by MadStork on Sep 7, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Psh

Yeah right. He’s not airing any grievances. BBS is just twisting quotes like the spin doctor he is.

"Born to do it, even though all my friends are looking at me like 'Who knew it?'"

by Colts Homer on Sep 7, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

wondering . . .

how Mike C and Anthony G ever managed to get along before they had BBS to translate their words for them. I have been reading Mike since the eighties and never realized I needed a third party translator to know what he was saying.

by Lucky Horseshoe on Sep 7, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

who wouldn’t be upset by “losing” their job? I guess the only thing Gonzo can do is sack-up and play his best where ever they put him

"Are you f*cking kidding me???"

by danorocks17 on Sep 7, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

This is BS....,.

The bigger story is how our make-shift O-Line is going to handle the Texan’s pass rush. That’s what I would be concerned about if I were PM – not some weepy slot receiver.

by MadStork on Sep 8, 2010 12:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Same here

It is well known that Polian trashed our O line after the Super Bowl loss. You would have thought that if he thought the O line was that bad, that they would have done something to improve it during the offseason.

by IsThisNameTaken on Sep 8, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why? Do you want to trade up for Tony Ugoh again?

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by linkish on Sep 8, 2010 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with the end. Caldwell didn't do what he said.

For example. Keyunta Dawson wasn’t even in the pot, when it was stirred up. The cream rose to the top, and Dawson sank to the bottom.

by Ty46 on Sep 8, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Honestly

I’m growing tired of BBS’s negatively slanted, opinion based writing. I’m all for homerism articles, but this stuff is ridiculous.

It’s very clear that BBS is still butt-hurt about the Brandstater/Painter thing, and it’s effecting his writing. It’s like that 3 month span we had when all he would write about was that other writer from that other site that got under his skin…makes me want to stop coming to this site.

Get rid of BBS or stop badmouthing the head coach, calling him a liar because of a (n MIS)interpretation of a quote that went through like 17 people before you decided to spin it even more.

by AbroadColtsFan on Sep 8, 2010 1:41 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Still butt-hurt about Brandstater/Painter??

Shit, this guy’s been butt-hurt ever since the coaches and front office decided to throw away the perfect season! And yes, like AJforAZ said, voice your concerns to that email address. Hopefully after enough bitching they’ll hire an actual COLTS fan to run this blog.

by etid5353 on Sep 8, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

any truth to the rumor . . .

that the ACLU is filing suit on behalf of Curtis Painter who feels that someone who is not part of management promised him an equal shot at winning the starting QB position? An ESPN poll asking which of the millions of people on this planet who are not part of Colts management made the promise, was split equally between the coaching staff which famously protests that it is not part of team management, and a mysterious blogger who reportedly spends even days of the month calling Polian (clearly part of team management) a genius and odd days of the month explaining why anything he does is wrong.

by Lucky Horseshoe on Sep 8, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Johnny O with perspective on the matter
Chappell’s story on the interview did a good job portraying the tone of the conversation. Gonzalez wasn’t seething and he wasn’t irate. He didn’t lash out at the team. He expressed uncertainty and perhaps some unhappiness at his situation, but in no way implied he didn’t want to play for the Colts or would give less effort than he had given in the past. The interview was understandably dissected and discussed extensively on the blogosphere, and it’s an intriguing topic worth discussing, but the feeling here remains the same – that while Gonzalez may not be thrilled right now, he will remain a critical part of the team’s offense.

by metal_militia on Sep 8, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I dunno...

Sounds awfully pragmatic and balanced – not something that will yield to emotionally-riddled commentary about our coach being a liar.

by buymymonkey on Sep 8, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Phillip B Wilson pwilson24
  
#Colts controversy? Not today. WR Anthony Gonzalez didn’t stir pot about being No. 4 WR. “All questions are answered on Sunday,” he said.

by Coltsinsider on Sep 8, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

If Garcon was injured early in the preseason, and Gonzo got regular snaps with Peyton...

Didn’t he get a chance to showcase what he can do right now? Gonzo had issues catching the ball in the preseason, but otherwise looked good. Unfortunately I think Garcon looked better last year and had about as many drops in three times the reps over the course of the season.

The coaches should know where Gonzalez is in his recovery to this point and what he has to offer the team. I’m surprised he didn’t supplant Collie as the #3 but I wouldn’t expect him to be #2 over Gonzo. I don’t think the coaches made this decision without any thought, they certainly had material on Gonzalez to evaluate.

by INDIANABANNER on Sep 8, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you should recount.

Garcon’s catch rate last year was 52%. That’s low for anyone, let alone when #18 is throwing the ball.

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by Brad Wells on Sep 9, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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