The only way to right the ship is to get busy finding capable bodies who can help the Colts get good today. Drafting projects like Jerry Hughes in the first round must stop. The clock is ticking – loudly – on the Colts potential for another championship.'
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The clock is ticking...?
Sounds a lot like the bullshit window closing argument that people have been shouting for years.
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
Manning
Manning is the window, and he’s 35. Sounds like a common sense statement to me.
by Cole Farrington on Jan 31, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This was a ridiculous article.
The Colts that entered the 2010 season were definitely good enough to win the Super Bowl. The Colts that finished the season, with injuries all over the place, were not. The Colts are fine if they make some good moves.
Also, since when was Jerry Hughes a project? He was supposed to contribute right away.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
Tell me about it.
It seems like everyone forgot, or just chose to ignore, all of the Colts injuries as soon as the season ended. I remember BBS saying the season was over (or something to that effect) after week 6 when Clark went down.
Anyone who has a problem with Joseph should stop watching Colts football. It's unfair to expect a back to replace Edge, and Addai has been excellent in all areas when he is healthy.
by DontHateAddai on Feb 1, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, I agree with this.
IMO, the Colts should be drafting for immediate impact, considering they want to win now.
Peyton Manning= Better.
Sadly me too
I mean we have been in the playoffs 9 times in a row! and only one ring to show for it…when manning retires…thats if he finishes his career with the colts which I am sure he will…what kind of team will we have?….a team based on manning without an amazing qb? that does not look good and so far with our draft picks I don’t see any rising stars on offense that can make as much of an impact as manning has so far
The only part of that I found interesting was he mentioned why Peyton getting "the biggest deal ever!!!" wouldn't be a bright idea
Given the fact that he’ll be able to easily live off the interest of what he has today, doesn’t it make sense for Manning to resist the temptation to go hard core in his dealings with the Colts? Agent Tom Condon needs to do something to earn his money, but giving the Colts a chance to surround Manning with the level of team he deserves as he enters the twilight of a singularly great career would seem prudent.
If Manning takes less today, wins two more Super Bowls, and retires with all those records, he will certainly be viewed as the best there ever was. The value of being the best ever will mean more cash than whatever this contract is worth.
The smart play is for Manning to relent – a bit. Give Jim Irsay and Bill Polian the latitude they need to get serious about filling that roster with quality, and Manning will forever be thought of as a team first guy whose desire to win outstrips his desire to get paid.
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Very interesting...
And somewhat true, though I don’t think it’s necessarily a viable solution. If I recall, Tom Brady is still the highest paid as of now so he clearly didn’t take the pay cut for the team. For the Colts, I see the bigger salary issues involving players who don’t nearly earn their paychecks (Hayden, Sanders). Re-work those contracts and money is a little less tight. I guess you have to wonder how much being the “highest paid QB” weighs on his mind or pride or whatever.
Brady had taken less pay in his previous contract for the good of the team...
and he also re-structured his contract in order to allow the Pats to bring Randy Moss on board under the cap.
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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 31, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
BS
This is always been a BS statement.
Brady has never ‘taken less.’ The guy gets market value for what he is.
His current contract is 4 years for 72 million and guarantees him $48.5 million. Right now, Brady is the highest paid player in the NFL and it is this contract that is the baseline for Manning, who will likely ask for more than $50 mill in guaranteed money because 1) He’s worth it, and 2) He’s better than Tom Brady.
It’s also worth noting that there is no cap for 2011, currently. So, all this talk of Manning taking less money so the Colts can have dough ‘under the cap’ to sign whoever is ridiculous. Bill Polian breaks out in a rash whenever the team signs any kind of veteran free agent, let alone a high priced one.
If the Colts (who are worth a lot of bread) are short on cash, maybe paying Kelvin Hayden $43 million or Bob Sanders $37.5 million might have more to do with it than anything Peyton Manning is asking for.
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Right now he is, yes
Prior to his current contract he had a lesser contract that he could otherwise have negotiated – remember, he was a three-time Super Bowl winning QB, had no major injury issues, and was relatively young. He could’ve gouged some team whatever he liked in free agency, but he didn’t.
I said Tom Brady had taken less money. The past tense is key. And when I said he had taken less money to bring in Moss, I was also clearly talking in the past tense – Moss was brought in in 2007, of course.
His current contract is far closer to his market rate – and when his current rate is closer to $20m per season than the $10m he was previously on, it’s clear his prior contract was underpaid.
In fact, when the Patriots franchise-tagged Matt Cassel and had Brady operating on the last years of his prior contract, Matt Cassel was the highest-paid QB in the Patriots camp. Brady was being paid less than the average of the top-5 paid QBs; that’s below his market rate.
So yes, on his previous contract he was underpaid. Taking note of tense is key, BigBlueShoe.
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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 1, 2011 4:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i remember reading
that Brady thought Kraft hadn’t kept up his end and invested in more talent and was bitter… allegedly.
by caldwellmotivatesME on Feb 1, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Might've been why he demanded more this time...
but I can’t think there were too many sour grapes, given Brady’s deal got done before Manning’s, and Irsay is Manning’s greatest fan and had already promised him the world.
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Oh, and I specifically said his PREVIOUS contract
So quoting his current exorbitant NFL-topping contract just reinforces just how underpaid he was on his prior contract – the fact that Matt Cassel on a franchise tag was technically in line to be paid more than Brady just shows that Brady’s contract was lagging behind market rate for an elite-level QB, unless you’re willing to suggest Cassel is on the same level as Brady and Manning.
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Yeah, because it really hurt the Colts the last time he did his contract.
Manning signed his mega-contract after 2004 I believe, and Brady did his either after 2004 or 2005.
Since those two contracts were signed (where Manning was ridiculed for getting every dollar he could, and Brady was hailed as Mother Theresa for giving the Pats a bargain), the Colts have been the better franchise.
The Colts did fine working around the last contract. What is more important is that Polian doesn’t give contracts to guys like Kelvin Hayden.
EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!
True
Just as I would imagine the Pats are ruing their free agent acquisitions of guys like Adalius “I didn’t know it snowed in a NE winter” Thomas and Shawn Springs.
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I don't think you need to panic yet.
The most important thing going into next season is to keep everyone healthy late in the season. If you have trouble again, then it might be time to panic.
Injuries killed you last season, special teams too but mainly injuries.
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by Gelatin on Jan 31, 2011 8:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Draft is important but...
We could help ourselves with some free agents. Hope Polian keeps his word and sign some free agents.
Brandon Mebane DT from Seahawks would be at the top of my wish list!!!
preoccupied with 1st round much?
If you’re getting production out half of yr draft picks and UFDA signings, who cares if a couple picks bust or take a couple years to pan out? Put another way: If you can just as easily get production from a later round pick as a first round pick, what difference does it make if either one rides the pine for the 1st year? If the Colts were missing on a higher percentage of total picks, over time, compared to other teams, I could see worrying. The truth is that Polian continues to be solid in the draft.
On the other hand, the sky is falling – I mean, the window is closing…
by caldwellmotivatesME on Jan 31, 2011 11:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Whats the Difference ?
Lower rd. picks and UDFA are starting and the picks from rds. 1 – 4 are sitting and not contributing. Its the opposite of the way it should be. Depth and special teams suffer when injuries occur. See a pattern in the last 4 yrs?
Practically speaking the only real difference between
a 1st round pick and a second or third is contractual. You’re never going to hit on ALL of your picks. Sure you want everyone you draft to be spectacular right out of the gate, but it just doesn’t happen – for anyone. BTW, injuries cause depth problems and thus impact special teams. You have it all backwards in yr post
by caldwellmotivatesME on Feb 1, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I love how the fact that Manning is 35 means the window is closing fast
The Window is still very much open. Manning may be 35 mentally but physically he probably has the the talents of a 32 year old franchise QB. Plus Manning’s game is so heavily based on his mental abilities that he could play into his 40s, barring some significant injury, and still be playing at a Pro Bowl level. The window is open until Manning retires.
"Pressure is something you feel if you don't know what the hell you're doing."-Peyton Manning
by P0RKINS2 on Feb 1, 2011 10:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Peyton is a team guy but...
he is pro union so he has to raise the ceiling for every other player.
On another topic… I think the Colts have the most talented roster in the NFL. Do we have some holes? Yes, but the holes can and I believe will be fixed. Also can people stop with the idea that the Colts need to sign/ draft a safety. The Colts had atleast 5 safeties on IR and that is a fluke. I think if we resign Bullit we have the best safety combination and depth in the league.
by BleedBluenWhite on Feb 1, 2011 10:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
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