NFL Playoffs: Colts Wild Card Weekend Injury Report- Wednesday
by Brad Wells on Jan 6, 2011 10:52 AM EST
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PrintApologies for not posting this last night. The report has some interesting information.
Full participation: Al Afalava, Dan Muir, and Jaimie Thomas
Limited participation: Antonio Johnson
No participation: Ryan Diem, Dwight Freeney, Kelvin Hayden, Robert Mathis, Mike Newton, Dominic Rhodes, Jamey Richard, and Clint Session.
Last week, Clint Session participated in each practice, but did not play against the Titans. On Monday, when asked as to whether Session had a 'set back' to prevent him from playing against the Titans, Jim Caldwell denied the claim. Yesterday (and likely on Tuesday) Session did not practice.
So, unless Clint Session tripped over his dog on Monday, it's likely Jim Caldwell was lying when he said Session had not suffered an injury setback. Logic suggests that if a player can practice all week but ends up not playing that something happened to 'set back' said player's recovery process between the practices and the game itself.
But, whatever. Coaches lie about injuries all the time. It's not 'moral' or anything like that for the supposedly unapologetic Christian that is Jim Caldwell, but it's simply a fact of life in the NFL. Perhaps he just views lying as part of his job to get the team in the best position possible to win games, 'values' be damned.
If Session cannot go, it's not critical. Pat Angerer, Tyjuan Hagler, and Kavell Conner have more than replaced Session (who should have been IRed back in October over Anthony Gonzalez).
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Completely Unecessary
“Perhaps he just views lying as part of his job to get the team in the best position possible to win games, ‘values’ be damned.”
Posts like this continue to erode your credibility BBS. I just don’t get it. I’m guessing this site gets some great traffic, and I know it often posts insightful analysis (mostly from mgrex and Collin) but then I read something like this. I’m not sure why you feel like these personal attacks are necessary.
I come here because it’s an active community but when I want a reasonable, analytical voice on football I visit Nate at 18to88. When it comes to approach, tone, and usefulness the two of you couldn’t be father apart.
Credibility
The credibility issue sailed long, long ago, friend.
BBS has been pretty straightforward that the more outrageous the headlines and opinions are, the most views he gets, which is good for the bottom line. So, you know, it’s good he’s honest about that, at least.
Sigh
If the ‘credibility issue sailed long, long ago,’ why are you still reading the articles and commenting?
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
Credibility
If calling into question the pretty obvious hypocrisy of someone who lives their life according to a strict code of morals while, at the same time, said person blatantly lies to the press as a means to an end erodes my credibility with you, then you’re not someone I really care to have credibility with.
How’s that?
I’d like to read a real counter-argument from you rather than you simply throwing out a blanket statement that I have no credibility.
Explain why writing this makes me ‘less credible?’ Explain why the statement is wrong. Because you don’t like it when people’s flaws are exposed to you? You don’t want to see your little world turned upside down?
If there is one word I can change in that article (I won’t because people have already responded to it) it’s the word ‘Christian’ because this isn’t about religion. It’s about morals. I should have left religion out of it. I’m off to flog myself as I await your answer.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
What does calling someone a hypocrite accomplish?
What does calling someone any name accomplish? I’m with you, there may be something to this but that doesn’t warrant name calling. One’s argument is always stronger when you don’t attack some personally. Hey we gotta watch this situation, is Clint hurting or something? But jumping to Caldwell is a liar or a hypocrite is premature and unproductive.
With that said if you here anything about session let us know.
So on the 18th day God created the Quarter Back, and his name is Peyton Manning.
by NoCuddleOffense on Jan 6, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Accomplish
It got people talking about whether or not Jim Caldwell is a hypocrite.
Also, it got a very funny response from redmid17. That, in and of itself, made the post an accomplishment.
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It got people talking about
how much of a clown you come off as.
That always happens
Whenever I, or anyone, brings up any kind of uncomfortable topic, you’re going to get people who attack you for doing it. That’s normal.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
Calling people names is always a loss.
That redmin17 post was pretty funny though.
So on the 18th day God created the Quarter Back, and his name is Peyton Manning.
by NoCuddleOffense on Jan 6, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Oh come on
Calling him names? Seriously? Where do I call him a name in the article? If you are going to jump all over me for calling someone who does hypocritical things a ‘hypocrite,’ if that to you is name-calling, then I have no answer for you. None.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
I guess you never use the exact words"Caldwell is a liar."
But you are strongly implying it here.
It’s not ‘moral’ or anything like that for the supposedly unapologetic Christian that is Jim Caldwell, but it’s simply a fact of life in the NFL. Perhaps he just views lying as part of his job to get the team in the best position possible to win games, ‘values’ be damned.
It undermines your position until we know what’s actually going on.
So on the 18th day God created the Quarter Back, and his name is Peyton Manning.
by NoCuddleOffense on Jan 6, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
once again your article in my opinion
served its purpose – to stimulate discussion and opposing points of view
by OBGYNOSUPREME on Jan 6, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Then why do you and your dumbass lackeys
do it? You spend more time badgering and name calling than you do in actually contributing anything worth reading to the site. Grow the fuck up. Seriously.
by Indyshockwave on Jan 6, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
What if he just isn’t practicing? There are a lot more possible conclusions than that Caldwell is lying, running counter to his “supposed” morals.
Player
If a player is healthy, he SHOULD be practicing. If he isn’t, a reason needs to be given, such as a death in the family.
Clint Session is paid a lot of money. If he, or any player, is healthy and not practicing, that’s news.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
Several Reasons
It questions your credibility in several ways -
1. You have no clue if Caldwell is lying but you make the assumption anyway and then question his morality.
2. You’re being disingenuous with your argument. You know the Colts often play injury information close to the vest. It’s not like this is new but you blog about it like it’s a revelation.
3. Hyperbole – sometimes your posts read like the Rex Ryan of Colts blog – over-inflating a pretty standard situation for attention. I get it – hits pay your bills, fine. But hits from posts like these are cheap.
4. This blog can and should be better. In fact, it often is. Collin offers great posts that raise, or at least stimulate, people’s football IQ. Mgrex’s stats are terrific. Even Devil provides mostly dispassionate analysis. I appreciate these things about Stampede Blue. But the reality is that you’re the head writer, and thus the face of this blog, and this blog as a whole loses credibility when you attack a member of the Colts’ organization, especially when that attack is based mostly off conjecture and seems “personal”. And it doesn’t get much more personal than questioning a man’s religion.
On another note I have no problem with exposing “flaws”. I’m not an unapologetic homer for the Colts. I hated what they did in Week 14 last year. I think Caldwell made some bad calls in the Super Bowl. I would also guess that putting Gonzalez on IR was a mistake. I suspect that you and I agree on many of these points. My problem is with your approach.
Response to reasons
1) Dude, it’s obvious he lied about Session, and all the reasons are right there. If you personally don’t want to believe that he did, fine. I’m sure people can convince themselves to believe anything.
2) There is a BIG difference between playing injury information ‘close to the vest’ and flat out lying about it.
3) Nothing in this post gets me hits. What drives hits to a site a article titles with certain keywords and posting news in a timely fashion. Also, the point of the comment was is lying is so standard, how can a coach (with a straight face) also say he some kind of moral leader with deep values? It’s a good question, in my mind. And, it kind of makes you think.
4) Calling out the hypocrisy of an individual in the Colts organization most certainly does not make this blog less credible. Sucking up to the Colts, if anything, makes any media outlet less credible. Also, highlighting the hypocrisy is not a ‘personal attack.’ If I’d called Jim Caldwell an asshole because he is a liar, then THAT is a personal attack. I don’t get where you, or anyone, thinks I questioned his religion. I have no doubts Jim Caldwell believes in his religion. What I question is the moral character of a man who preaches high values to his players while, at the same time, lying to the media.
SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.
1) It isn't obvious he lied but quite possible.
4) Calling someone a liar, a hypocrite, questioning their morals are by definition personal attacks.
So on the 18th day God created the Quarter Back, and his name is Peyton Manning.
by NoCuddleOffense on Jan 6, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
dance with who brung ya
The run D is pretty stout with Conner and Hagler in there. It’s Possible he’s riding the pine until someone fucks up or gets hurt.
by caldwellmotivatesME on Jan 6, 2011 11:21 AM EST reply actions
People need to chill
BBS is only reporting what many of us are already wondering, and we have already seen evidence of this all year….
Sanders was seen going through “practice” for a day after supposedly blowing out his bicep in the Texans game
Gonzo was reported going through “practice” despite his variety of injuries
Hayden and Session both have been going through “practice”
2 of those guys are already on IR, and Hayden has pretty much missed the last 6-7 games despite being seen practicing in the last 2 weeks…
Belicheck, one of the best coaches in the league, used to play the injury game so well the league actually started forcing teams to comply with injury reports by listing them.
Personally, if the guys can’t go…..send them to IR and end the speculation. It’s ridiculous and I’m tired of wondering about it. I really think that is all BBS is getting at. If the guys are healthy and the Colts are just trying to keep the opponents guessing…..then it’s lame…..
Hey Devil
when are you gonna become a contributing writer? You’ve certainly put in the work and would provide a great counterpoint on SB.
So on the 18th day God created the Quarter Back, and his name is Peyton Manning.
by NoCuddleOffense on Jan 6, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
The NFL already
altered it’s rules requiring people to report people are injured. If he’s injured and they are not reporting it, the Colts are subject to potential fines and punishment.
While you can question BBS for his choice of words, the issue about the injuries does need to be cleared up/addressed.
What if he's telling the truth???
Maybe he had no setback and the team that gave up a shot at an undefeated season to rest starters simply want to save him for the playoffs. With MJD and Garrard missing the jacksonville game, there was a high probability the Colts didn’t need this game. That combined with how well the D was playing without Session made the decission easy. He broke and dislocated his arm/shoulder, an injury that ended his father’s career. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt and Caldwell has given me no reason no to believe him. There is no story in that though.
Honestly
Next time just give the injury report and leave it at that. Stop attacking a coach that took a decimated team to the playoffs…..again. It’s getting old
I must say, BBS
You must have a strong support system. My psyche would have cracked into several pieces if I had to endure this much abuse day in and day out. Possible he’s lying, yes. But there are many other possibilities as described by others here. Its something to discuss so whatever, it got me to read and respond. Questioning Caldwell’s faith was a low blow. I make comment sometimes I wish I could take back. An apology to Caldwell for questioning faith might be a good idea.
So on the 18th day God created the Quarter Back, and his name is Peyton Manning.
by NoCuddleOffense on Jan 6, 2011 12:07 PM EST reply actions
Guys, cool off
It’s not like this is the first time a devout Christian has been attacked underhandedly for no reason.
Hmmmmm.
Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.
Everytime ...
when I check back here to see whats going on, I’m doing it with the hope that after so many thousands of negative replies to his nonsense… well …. BBS will learn.
But it’s not the case as I see.
Congratulations … every time you post something, you are also able to reach a new low.
Well, the thing is that I normally don't have a problem with BBS's posts
But this is a cheap, underhanded attack on a man because of his faith, over a PRESUMED lie that he really has no clue about.
Oh, and I do believe the Community Guidelines said something about this.
“This is a sports blog, not a politics or religion blog. We talk about football here, and sometimes other sports. But, mostly football. We’d like everyone to feel as though this place is a bit of a sanctuary from all the political and religious talk seen everywhere else.”
So, if I am not allowed to come on here and promote my Christian faith, then what gives the head writer of this blog the idea that he can attack a man about his Christian faith? I don’t get it. I thought we were all supposed to stay off topics like that.
Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.
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