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David Garrard's Agent Suggests Colts Paid Peyton Manning Knowing He Couldn't Play In 2011

CINCINNATI, OH - OCTOBER 16:  Peyton Manning the #18 of the Indianapolis Colts talks with Curtis Painter#7 during the NFL game against the Cincinnati Bengals at Paul Brown Stadium on October 16, 2011 in Cincinnati, Ohio.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

The Jaguars are a mess.

I say this because, as a fan of the 2011 Indianapolis Colts, I know what a mess really looks like.

We've always been outspoken about our dislike for the morons who own and coach the Jags for years. Gene Smith seems like a quality G.M., and if you look at his recent draft record, he's actually better at his job today than Bill and Chris Polian are at theirs. Unfortunately for Smith, he works for Wayne Weaver and has to manage the worst coach in all of football, Jack Del Rio.

Del Rio has pretty consistently ranked near the bottom of the head coaching tree since he was given the job back in 2003. Since then, he's won only one playoff game (back in 2007) which was, incidentally, the last time the Jags were in the post-season.

Nine years. One playoff win. Del Rio's got pictures of Weaver, a couple of hookers, and a donkey. That's the only reason I can come up with as to why he still has a job in Jacksonville.

At the end of pre-season this year, Del Rio tried to reuse an old magic trick in a rather transparent effort to keep his job. At the end of pre-season in '07, Del Rio famously cut longtime starting QB Byron Leftwich and handed the job to David Garrard. The move helped the Jags to a playoff birth that year.

This past pre-season, Del Rio, desperate for a quick fix in order to save his skin, gave Garrard the Leftwich treatment, cutting him unexpectedly in favor of Luke McCown and, later, rookie Blaine Gabbert. The results are a dumpster fire, and Del Rio is as good as fired at the end of 2011. Then again, I've been saying that for years.

Today, David Garrard's agent, Al Irby, decided to sound off on the Jaguars on behalf of his client. It seems Irby isn't happy that Garrard was served up as a Del Rio sacrifice to appease Weaver's pocketbook. From the Florida Times-Union, via PFT:

"At $500,000 per game, they knew he would be down 4-6 weeks. They didn’t want to pay that bill," Irby wrote to Tania Ganguli of the Florida Times-Union. "Now you know the difference between a first-class organization like Indy, and a sorry organization like the Jags. Indy gave their QB a contract even though he couldn’t play all season.

"David was told his back was fine. So he took them for their word.  Now he has to go to surgery, and Jacksonville is saying, ‘Not my problem.’ What a first class organization!"

Wait, hold on a sec. Did I read that right? No, not the part about the Jaguars being a 'sorry organization.' No one is going to argue that. I'm talking about the Colts.

Did our owner and team front office really give Peyton Manning $90 million dollars knowing full-and-well he would not play in 2011?

Star-divide

The rumor mill has been screaming all season that the Colts signed Peyton Manning without giving him a physical. The first to report this was Mike Florio at PFT. I've talked with Mike and he's emphatically stood by the report. Both Bill and Chris Polian have publicly denied Florio's report, saying that Manning did pass a physical before signing.

However, regardless of whatever they say publicly, both Polians lack credibility when attempting to debunk injury rumors.

The Colts covered up Manning's neck injury all last season, never listing him on the injury report even though he was clearly dealing with neck-shoulder-triceps issues. Also, if Peyton's injury this year was so bad that it required a second surgery in September after an initial operation in May, how did he pass anything remotely resembling a proper physical before signing his contract in July?

What, did the Polians say, 'Peyton, lift this pen. Sign here. There! You passed your physical AND you signed your $90 million dollar contract. Congratulations!'

I'm not going to argue Irby's point that the Jaguars are classless and 'sorry.' They are. That's pretty universally well-known throughout league circles. I'm sure some nutball Jags fans will see that as a shot at the fanbase overall, but really it isn't. Jags fans deserve better than these idiots running their team, and should demand better. They are the ones paying good money for this train wreck every Sunday. I mean, win or lose, Wayne Weaver still makes a profit. Unless held accountable, what incentive does he have to win?

And though I think the Jags are a dumpster fire, I don't begrudge them cutting Garrard. My issue is when they cut him. If he was hurt, and they knew he was hurt, as Irby's suggests, the Jags should have let him go prior to preseason and gone with Gabbert. By stringing him, the team, and the fans along only to cut Garrard right before the start of Week One, it just further reinforced the notion that clueless monkeys run the team rather than a group of quality professionals.

Back to the Colts, it's a pretty significant thing to say that the Polians signed Manning to the richest deal in NFL history knowing he was too injured to play. I'm sure a few insurance companies might have a word or two with Jim Irsay if Irby's statement is true.

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I'm sure the front office knew something was up...

But the Dr’s cleared him for limited practice after he signed his contract. It’s not like Manning signed the contract then went under the knife…

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by kmbryant09 on Oct 18, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I must say

I think you’re reaching on this one a bit.

by gmitch23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

definitely

were gonna take a statement from an angry agent, whos trying to prove a point, as Gospel?? im not buying it

by bigpony on Oct 18, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

What this guy said...

Desperate attempt at a “story”.

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by Stew Blake on Oct 18, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok i get what you're sayin

but lets not dog the article like this, its ok not to agree.

by gmitch23 on Oct 18, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

but what is the alternative

not sign him, let him be a free agent and have someone else sign him,, only reason not to sign him , is if they thought he could never play again,, assuming he is healthy , he should be good for 4 more years,, My motto for this year and next is worst to first and should have new Head Coach and O and D Co- ord. also

by OBGYNOSUPREME on Oct 18, 2011 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Tabloid Style Speculation

An agent is giving a general comparison? He’s not really stating any facts… just a comment you’re trying to run with. This must be what 0-6 looks like.

Also it sure does look like Smith is a better talent evaluator too. Judging by their incredible run of excellence.

Remember- Jim Caldwell is a terrible coach ( your words)

So the colts are LESS talented because they can’t draft due to the incompetence of Polian.

They must have just been VERY VERY LUCKY for that long run of playoff appearances and all those wins due to their extreme ineptitude from coaches and the front office.

err yeah. about that.

by DIU on Oct 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was 2 first rounders?

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Oct 18, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was posted when the news first broke

Details have changed in the last 2 hours. Maybe they would want a package deal with Collins as a backup?

"Screw the NBA, where is my red, white and blue basketball"

by PV Mike on Oct 18, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be nice.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Oct 18, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the notion that Irby knows defintively what the Colts did or did not know about Manning is far-fetched.

But the fact that PM was having health issues, had surgery in May 2011 and was currently under doctor’s care was obviously known to the Colts. As a result, unless we’re talking about issues other than the neck, I don’t see what difference it makes whether he had a physical or not. They knew about the neck injury and signed him anyway.

New Math: 2011-18 = 0-16

by EVLGNUS on Oct 18, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Jacob Lacey and Tim Jennings with pictures of Caldwell’s daughter…reach? Or the only reason they started consecutive games for the colts ?

by PeytonIsGOAT on Oct 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, yes, yes

All we do is write trash, make stuff up, and fling around meaningless babble because we’re out for page views, ad money, and high grade cocaine that we can snort off a hooker’s pelvis.

Nothing we’ve ever written has been backed up with facts, and we ‘twist’ everything in a devious effort to make all the cool people in the Colts organization look bad.

Clearly, you’ve discovered our agenda. We’ve been unmasked. we would have gotten away with it had it not been for you meddling kids.

Meanwhile, if you haven’t seen it already, our weekly stats article, using a stats system we created and honed. Cheers.

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by Brad Wells on Oct 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding your first paragraph...

…Charlie Sheen calls that “breakfast” ;)

If at first you don't succeed, quit and watch TV.
In the name of the Colts, the Hoosiers, and the Nebraska Cornhuskers. Amen.

by The Learned Hand on Oct 18, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think javen's only mistake was not clarifying...

that the other bloggers on Stampede Blue do post quality stuff. I think he was being polite by not calling you out directly.

by Yougotme on Oct 18, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

CORRECT

Just trying to keep up a healthy discussion while respecting everyone’s opinion. My point is that people need to keep these things in perspective. Polian and every single GM in the league has hits and misses. Simply the nature of the business. If the blog would use its time and resources to OBJECTIVELY look at what other teams are doing Polian’s record holds up very well.

by javen on Oct 18, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If Gene Smith is better than our GM

Why do the jaguars players consistently suck ?

by blacktobias on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm okay with this.

Give Manning the keys to the stadium, the deed to the training facility, Conseco Fieldhouse, Circle Centre Mall, Noblesville, and anything else he wants. I don’t care if he doesn’t play another down for this football team. As long as he doesn’t trot out in a Titans or Cowboys uniform, I’m okay with this.

I, for one, want no part of any Ruthian-esque cursings.

by DeepThought on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Meh.

Don’t see what’s gained by posting this, at all. All I have to say on it, really.

Antoine Bethea - the most underrated safety in the NFL.

by Ben Savage on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I want Polian gone, I want Caldwell gone, I agree with a lot of what BBS says,

but this is not a story. This is an agent spouting off on behalf of a client that is now jobless.

Let’s see some articles outlining some Bill Polian or Jim Caldwell replacement options.

Even if Polian did sign Manning without having him pass a physical, this “story” proves nothing and just makes Stampede Blue look less credible.

by FatDT on Oct 18, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Agent

When an agent for a prominent player suggests the Colts signed Manning even though he was hurt, that’s a story. If Peyton Manning signed his contract without taking a physical, that is a BIG story.

Please, knock off the useless comments about credibility. This is yet another source (Garrard’s agent) saying the Colts knowingly signed an injured player to the biggest contract in NFL history. That’s news, people. Just because you personally don’t think its important doesn’t mean the news world should revolve around you.

If this was a story you cared nothing about, no one forced you to read it or comment on it.

SB Nation's Indianapolis Colts blogger at Stampede Blue and editor of SB Nation Indiana.

by Brad Wells on Oct 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gene Smith

He took over as GM in 2009. His top three picks in each of the last two drafts are:

2009
1- Eugene Monroe
2- Ebben Britton
3- Derek Cox

2010
1- Tyson Alualu
30 D’Anthony Smith

Meanwhile, the Colts took Brown, Moala, and Powers in ‘09 and Hughes, Angerer, and Thomas in ’10. Brown and Hughes are busts, Moala isn’t anything special, and Thomas is so bad now he can’t even get activated on sundays when the team is thinner than tissue paper in the secondary. Angerer and Powers are decent picks, though Powers is injury prone.

So, yeah. Gene Smith has drafted better than the Polian in recent years.

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by Brad Wells on Oct 18, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

ding ding ding. Round goes to the guy in the Black trunks.

Being in politics is like being a football coach. You have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important. -- Eugene J. McCarthy

by zherebyonki on Oct 18, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

facts

will get you nowhere

Whenever you get stressed, always remember: RDWHAHB

by danorocks17 on Oct 18, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

GREAT

Great post. I tried the same angle off the top of my head. Jag fans are screaming about how poorly their picks are performing. But it goes to the same point, Polian bad, so lets twist the facts to support the conclusion.

By the way, ESPN did a review of the 2009 first round picks. Just awful. Of the first 16 picks (Stafford, Raji and Orakpo) are hits pretty much the rest are average or awful. In this context Brown wasn’t such a bad pick.

by javen on Oct 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

REALLY

Monroe is at best average and is not even close to what you would expect from a top ten choice. Britton is also average but can’t stay on the field because of injury. Cox is just OK and has been benched at times for poor play.
Alualu, another top ten pick, is a fine player that is not playing great right now because of injury and Smith hasn’t given them anything because of injury. You left out Knighton who was a great second round pick but has battled weight issues.
 If Polian had a two year draft like this you’d be all over him for lousy drafts.

by javen on Oct 18, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Jax has drafted better than the Colts lately but we have Peyton to cover up for Polian. When a team has the G.O.A.T. it makes the organization look first class.

by SRBradford on Oct 18, 2011 2:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

EXCEPT

that they really haven’t drafted better.

by javen on Oct 18, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

A quick refresh of the facts!

If the colts left peyton manning on IR at the conclusion of training camp, they could have left him on IR for the first 6 weeks without wasting 1 of 53 roster spots on him, giving them time to make a decision. True?

Affirmative.

Thus, the notion that the colts weren’t legitimately surprised that he had numbness in his triceps after activating him a week before week 1 vs Texans should be dismissed immediately?

Affirmative.

It makes zero sense and defies logic to suggest there was a conspiracy theory in ownership/management to activate him for no reason other than optics.

Next topic please?

by ColtKing on Oct 18, 2011 4:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Agreed - A lot of people think Irsay is crazy

I say crazy like a fox. I don’t think he would part with 18 million on a whim.

"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"

by indylator on Oct 18, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I usually respond to nonsense or wild speculation being presented as fact -----
I’m Batman!

"If they want me to be a crazy, emotional, frenzied fan in section 603, then they can't expect me to be reasonable about the business of football"

by indylator on Oct 18, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

And the monkey slowly raised the beer to his simian lips -

Ahhh, a drink of beer. That’s one. **

  • New Beer Game – take a drink each time BBS posts “Polians suck” in an article.

by buymymonkey on Oct 18, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The future...

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey

by infinityzero.systemerror on Oct 18, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great!

I spit out my drink when I read this. LOL!

by buymymonkey on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here were the Options -

Option 1 – Sign him, even if he can’t play in 2011, so that you might have him for 2012-14
Option 2 – Publicly release information about his neck to drive down his value. Manning reacts by leaving team, signing a lucrative contract with the Titans, and the fan base burns the stadium down.
Option 3 – Don’t sign him because it’s too risky. Manning reacts by … see Option 2.

Personally, I would have gone with option 1. Perhaps BBS-Genius can find a better option.

by MichColtFan on Oct 18, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I like this site

But when I see BBS is authoring a post, I move to the next. Sad but true.

by FatFinger on Oct 18, 2011 10:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yet, here you are.

just saying.

It’s strange that this should be news though, I wouldn’t care if it was true. Thus, it registers as non-news to me. I find the most amazing thing about this being David Garrard’s agent seriously comparing the situations of Manning and Garrard.

"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't."
- Jack Dempsey

by infinityzero.systemerror on Oct 19, 2011 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course you like your owners better than Weaver...

After all, your city only has a team because your owner sold out the people of Baltimore, Colts true city, for a sweeter deal.
Class.

Fidelis Ad Mortem

by JPQ! on Oct 19, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Not Our Owner

Our owner did not sell out Baltimore. That was his father. Pretty much everyone knows that Robert Irsay was a not a very nice person. Jim is nothing like his father.

by ColtsPensacola on Oct 19, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inspiration from one of the Jaguars 10 season ticket holders.

See you in LA someday. Just leave Jack Del Rio home in Florida.

"Screw the NBA, where is my red, white and blue basketball"

by PV Mike on Oct 19, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

^ for JPQ

"Screw the NBA, where is my red, white and blue basketball"

by PV Mike on Oct 19, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who Cares?

Of course Irsay wasn’t going to let Peyton go even if it cost him a paid season. Irsay knows that Peyton built Indy from a losing team. I have been a Colts fan since growing up in Indiana. We watched a lot of terrible seasons before Peyton showed up. The Colts never had the kind of excitement or fair weather fans they have now.

Irsay is not dumb enough to let Peyton go before he has to. Even if it costs him a few million. Even 2-3 good seasons after this one will more than pay for the lost season. Peyton puts fans in seats, so personally, I think this article is stupid. If there is even a small chance that Peyton recovers, then Irsay isn’t letting Peyton go for any price. The publicity alone makes Manning worth every dollar spent.

by sleepyjonny on Oct 19, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

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